: Another broken axle
PARANOID56 12-20-2005, 07:11 AM So, while driving down the road (around 40mph) the axle broke. what would cause this? these axles are less then 500miles old.
also, when talking to the PO, he said it happend before, but had everthing fixed and had recipts to prove it. what could be happening?
jeep is a 67 CJ5 with the stock V6
http://www.camotoy.com/jeep/IMGP0295.JPG
Thanks
Shane
Haggar 12-20-2005, 07:23 AM 1st, this isn't hardcore jeep tech..
2nd, you don't even state what part of the axle broke, front or rear, and on what vehicle? That axles? Modifications?
Cmon...
PARANOID56 12-20-2005, 08:23 AM 1st, this isn't hardcore jeep tech..
Cmon...
ahh, the reasion i dont wonder off of the LC fourm :flipoff2:
Sorry, i fogot to post the picture :shaking:
well, the axle broke right before the wheel flange. its the rear drivers side axle. the jeep is mostly stock looks to have a LSD in the rear.
and axle brakeage on a jeep is major hardcore :flipoff2: even if its on the street :D
Shane
Grapehead 12-20-2005, 08:28 AM bent housing. what years that jeep.
PARANOID56 12-20-2005, 08:30 AM Sorry about that.
jeep is a 67 CJ5 with the stock V6
The street ain't hardcore. Not knowing what axle you got ain't hardcore. Stock jeeps/axles ain't hardcore. Your jeep broke - what else is new.
jwjeep1 12-20-2005, 08:34 AM Right... why is my Dana 35 breaking on the street??? That's Hardcore...shure it is... no really...
It's a Dana 35, that's why it's breaking. We could guess maybe dragging brakes on that side, or bent housing, but it wouldn't really matter. The only way to make sure it never happens again is to get rid of that POS and get a real axle. Personally, a dana 35 is not worth fixing once, much less multiple times. It's certainly not worth taking to any real axle shop to diagnose, you'd be better off spending the same ammount of money on a new axle. Even a Dana 44 from a junkyard woule be a huge improvement, and could be a direct bolt in. So, you don't like this answer, than SEARCH and figure it out yourself.
Edit: Sorry, started that before the pic got posted. Model 20, I'd say bent housing would be the most likely, or improper installation of the outer hub, etc. Either way, you can either get a 1 piece kit, or get rid of the thing all together. Personally, it's not worth the money for a 1 piece kit any more for these things, but you can find them on here or e-bay for cheap
jwjeep1 12-20-2005, 08:43 AM You're right, see edit above. everyone adding things at once...
If it is a full flanged D44 that was swapped into it - very common - either:
1. Housing bent - causing bearing to fail - heats up axle where bearing is and voila.
2. Replaced axle shaft with a used, unknown to them, bent axle shaft - bearing failure again.
3. Bearing failure - improperly packed with grease.
When I had a D44 flanged axle in the back of my Jeepster, drving home on the way back from Moab, lost my drivers side wheel outside of Vegas at about 65MPH. Makes for a fun ride.:D
PARANOID56 12-20-2005, 08:47 AM Right... why is my Dana 35 breaking on the street??? That's Hardcore...shure it is... no really...
well, apon my vas searching the stock 67 jeep cj5 has a stock dana 44 in the rear. i now see how shitty this axle is. And yes, i wont be spending any more money on this axle, and already have new ones going in. i was want to know why this would happen.
seems you guys say bent axle. thats all i need to know.
Kaiser5 12-20-2005, 08:58 AM Bunch of knuckleheads responding to this post.
It is NOT a Dana 35, or 20 or a flanged 44.:shaking:
This axle, assuming its stock, is a semi-float, keyed 2-piece, offset 44. It sounds like the axle broke just behind the flange in front of the bearing. On this design, the major stress point is right where your axle broke. I have broken the same axle at the same spot. Its a weak design to start with plus its 40 years old. It fatigued over that amount of time and just decided to let go.
Your options are to find the one piece flanged axles from an offset '70-71 model year 44 or go to a full floater set-up. I built a full floater out of mine and successfully ran 36" tires on it.
PARANOID56 12-20-2005, 09:29 AM Bunch of knuckleheads responding to this post.
It is NOT a Dana 35, or 20 or a flanged 44.:shaking:
This axle, assuming its stock, is a semi-float, keyed 2-piece, offset 44. It sounds like the axle broke just behind the flange in front of the bearing. On this design, the major stress point is right where your axle broke. I have broken the same axle at the same spot. Its a weak design to start with plus its 40 years old. It fatigued over that amount of time and just decided to let go.
Your options are to find the one piece flanged axles from an offset '70-71 model year 44 or go to a full floater set-up. I built a full floater out of mine and successfully ran 36" tires on it.
Sweet this is the answer i am looking for. Thank you very much.
i was just bumed that this axle broke after less then 500 miles. i replaced both sides about 2 months ago. either way, I decided to just swap FJ40 axles under it. stronger, lots of upgrades avaliable, and i already had them.
Shane
GPERX4 12-20-2005, 10:24 AM If the axle has broken the second time, when it was replaced was the wheel bearing greased. There should be grease zerts over the axle bearings on the back side of the tubes so they can be greased. If the bearings were greased when they were installed the the tubes are bent so new axles won't help.
PARANOID56 12-20-2005, 10:27 AM yea, everthing was greased, bearings packed. and i added greas to the zert fittings. my only guess now would be that it has a bend axle tube.
Thanks again for all the help
WildRide 12-20-2005, 05:09 PM Looks similar to what I just went through last weekend except my axle shaft was still attached to the tire when it came off.
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