DEAB BEAT buyer issue - need you help

[BlueCoyote3]

Like my original post states, these are DEAD BEAT BUYERS

Kevin Blevins a.k.a. Patrick Kevin Blevins
Stacy Ann Marie Blevins
FORMERLY OF
***** Crystal Falls Drive
Sonora, Ca 95370-91**

PO Box 272
Denair, Ca 95316-0272

They have since moved '6 states over'. Their email -> rockngirl@beu.midco.net goes to a local ISP in the SW Minnisota, NE Nebraska area. Kevin used to work for Caltrans. They drove a maroon Explorer. Kevin owned an FJ40 and may have been building a truck for Stacey.
They are CROOKS that owe me $400 + all recovery fees!

Here is what occured. Last spring I advertised my Marlin Crawler (#212), Both X-fer cases, Bud-Built X member and 2 drivelines for sale on PBB and Marlins Board. Get an email from Ms Blevins that she wants it. We talk on the phone and tell her first one here with the cash gets it. She wants to mail me a MO for a deposit then pick it up on the weekend - no biggie, except the mail around here is slow. Call her back and suggest PayPal. She sends me $400 via PayPal to hold it, and will bring $400 cash. Friday night she calls and said she paid the second $400 via PayPal. Verified it was there, she and Kevin drive down to pick it up - everything is cool. I pull most of the money out of my PayPal acct for other stuff, but leave $135 in.
About a month later PayPal take$ 400 back from my account, and stated that I owe PayPal $263. Call up to find out WTF is going on. PayPal will not tell me, will not give me any info on the Blevins, and suggest that I call the local PD. Call the San Berdo Co sherrif - to them it is a civil matter and will not help me. The Sonora PD said the same thing. PayPal will only give the info to the PD. W/O any info I cannot even to to small claims court. Only thing I got was that the "credit card account they used has an issue. We have launched an investigation" - to date they will not tell me anything. PayPal then send ME to collectinos. PayPal is a joke, since they cannot contact the Belvins, they come after me..

Have made many calls to the Blevins, gotten 1 responce. They had some issues and have moved 6 states over but will make it right. Sent many emails, got a few responces. State they sent me a MO. I have NEVER recieve any MO. Stacey said she will find the reciept for proof, and I can collect from the MO vendor. Guess what - no receipt, no MO, no nothing. They will no longer respond to any emails.

So Mr/ Mrs Blevins - I warned you. I tried to work this out. I no longer care about your financial situation. If you cannot pay for something , do not buy it.

I WANT MY $400 + recovery fee's

Either send me a MO for $400 overnight UPS / Fed Ex or bring the Crawler and all the stuff back! If this is not settled by 01/01/06 every bit of info I dig up will be posted on the internet. Want to be the next Wenzle???

[uglyscout]

Here is your main problem with Paypal:

When you accepted the CC payment - you pretty much backed up and let paypal and anyone with a fraudulent credit card take a free shot at your 'sensitive zone'. I personally do not accept credit card transfers...

Paypal Policy:

User Agreement for PayPal™ Service
Receiving Payments.


5.1 Credit Card Funded Payments. The only accounts that can receive credit card funded payments are Premier and Business Accounts. Personal Accounts that receive credit card funded payments may accept the payment by upgrading to a Premier or Business Account, or they will have to deny the payment. Personal Accounts may receive non-credit card funded payments for free. By accepting a credit card payment, you agree that you are responsible for the payment if it is reversed. If such reversal occurs on a credit card funded payment made to your account, we will reverse the payment and debit your PayPal account balance to pay for the reversal unless the transaction is covered by the Seller Protection Policy. If there are insufficient funds in your PayPal balance, you agree to reimburse PayPal through other means, as described in the Payments (Sending, Receiving, and Withdrawing) Policy.


http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/ua/ua-outside

[BlueCoyote3]

Here is your main problem with Paypal:

When you accepted the CC payment - you pretty much backed up and let paypal and anyone with a fraudulent credit card take a free shot at your 'sensitive zone'. I personally do not accept credit card transfers...



Nice try - this is NOT my fault. It is the action of Mr / Mrs Blevins. I had NO way of knowing they paid by credit card, as my acct set up to accept credit cards. Nor will Paypal give me ANY info to go after them. Paypal is as guilty as the Blevins for protecting these crooks.
Worst part is the Blevins have admitted to the issue and promised to make it right - after 8 months I have run out of patients.
So I repeat
Send me my $400 or Return Marlin Crawler #212 along with both Xfer cases, the Bud Built skid plate, both CVd drive lines

[cactuscatcher]

sorry pal but Pay Pal is soo bad, good luck every getting anything from them or any help what-so-ever; two years back I sold an item and after taking PayPal for it ended up 1 yr later with $1400 out due to "policy", having received a fraudulent payment and so many emails to them that I just gave up. It is impossible in my experience to get your money back and in my case I refunded the purchase after learning it was bad and 40 days later they took the money again. You can't sue them and in my experience there is nothing you can do.

[dcg9381]

Paypal collections doesn't mean much. As long as you had the money OUT of that paypal account, they're the ones that get stiffed in this - not you. Just don't use that account any more. From what I'm told, they can try to come after you, but as THEY accepted a stolen credit card (likely) it's their issue to eat.

You can proceed to small claims. Simply bring proof that paypal yanked money from your account. I'd also file a police report locally for theft - simply tell them it's a stolen credit card (even if you dont know). You take that local report and fax it over to the PD in the buyers area...

You can get an easy civil judgement locally, but good luck collecting.

[bspencer]

thats one reason i wont accept paypal......

[AZjeepRR]

sorry pal but Pay Pal is soo bad, good luck every getting anything from them or any help what-so-ever; two years back I sold an item and after taking PayPal for it ended up 1 yr later with $1400 out due to "policy", having received a fraudulent payment and so many emails to them that I just gave up. It is impossible in my experience to get your money back and in my case I refunded the purchase after learning it was bad and 40 days later they took the money again. You can't sue them and in my experience there is nothing you can do.

The guy on ROF tells a different story
http://www.rubiconownersforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=12447&highlight=soft+top

Seems he paid you and you never delivered the top

[BlueCoyote3]

No info on them so far, so I will up the ante.

$25to the first person to give me thier current valid address / phone # that results in me recovering my $425 - $400 for the STOLEN Marlin Crawler #212 + $25 recovery fee.
All responces will be kept confidentail - you can either PM or email me.
Hint - They may be living in MN or SD.

[Benzz0]

send me whatever info you got...I will see what I can ;)

[eightyfive]

man...so paypal isn't so safe....if they can just pay and later take money back.......it's useless. is there something im not getting here?

[phoneman]

www.paypalsucks.com

Read the horror stories.

[MonsterMaxx]

Initially I ran my business thru PayPal. They are criminals in every sense of the word.
The whistleblower threads on www.nopaypal.com are absolutely true. They tried most of those scams on me.

The key to remember here is that PayPal is not a bank. They'd like you to think they are but they are nothing more than a privately held money market fund. As such they are under no federal rules regarding how they dispense your funds.

The 80 page legalese Terms of Service you agree to completely absolves PayPal of any wrong doing no matter what they do to you.

BlueCoyote3, what you need to do is go down to the small claims court and file a suit and subpoena PayPal for the information.
Having faught these battles myself I can tell you that you are pissing up a rope.
Yes, you can eventually get a judgement against these people, however collecting it's a whole 'nother matter. The time and energy you will spend getting that judgement is far out of proportion to the measly $400 you'll get it for.
The law provides very little in the way of compensation for this and your recovery fees, though you can get your legal filing fees paid.

Good luck man. If I were you, I'd chalk this up to a hard lesson learned and move on with life and don't make this mistake again.

[gotmuddy]

I couldnt sleep until I got my money or whipped their asses, but thats just me. I say it is time for a road trip.

[BlueCoyote3]

BlueCoyote3, what you need to do is go down to the small claims court and file a suit and subpoena PayPal for the information.
Having faught these battles myself I can tell you that you are pissing up a rope.
Yes, you can eventually get a judgement against these people, however collecting it's a whole 'nother matter. The time and energy you will spend getting that judgement is far out of proportion to the measly $400 you'll get it for.
The law provides very little in the way of compensation for this and your recovery fees, though you can get your legal filing fees paid.

As for PP - cannot comment on actions with them right now .......
As for the Blevins - once I get a current address on them, SC is an option.


Good luck man. If I were you, I'd chalk this up to a hard lesson learned and move on with life and don't make this mistake again.
Sorry, not walking away from this. Sooner or later they will surface -crooks and scammers always do... Yes - lesson learned - cash and local pick up only from now on.


I couldnt sleep until I got my money or whipped their asses, but thats just me. I say it is time for a road trip.

All I need is a current address and it WILL be road trip time.........

[mda]

Might not be him but....

http://www.usnodrugs.com/news.htm?cid=3059


Fairfield,CA

Police nab alleged multistate thief

By Audrey Wong
FAIRFIELD,CA - Patrick Blevins was on the lam for nearly four months. During his flight, Blevins allegedly burglarized and stole cars from the Bay Area to Oregon, authorities say.

Blevin's fugitive days ended early Wednesday when Solano County District Attorney's Office investigators and other peace officers tracked Blevins to a home off Cement Hill Road.

Fairfield Officers surrounded the home in the 2800 block of Bay Tree Drive around 2 a.m. The suspect tried to run out the back door but an officer grabbed him, said Bob Farmer, a Solano County District Attorney investigator.

Blevins and the officer allegedly scuffled, then Blevins broke free and dashed north on Bay Tree Drive, headed to Eucalyptus Court then hopped through back yards to Banyan Court, Farmer said Thursday.

Blevins allegedly kicked in the side door of a garage and scurried up the rafters where officers found him trying to hide, Farmer said.

The suspect has a methaphetamine habit, which may have fueled his late night and alleged illegal activities, Farmer said.

The Napa County native had arrest warrants from Solano, Napa and Contra Costa counties for charges such as identity theft, possessing stolen property, auto theft, burglary and having and selling drugs.

Authorities started pursuing Blevins in July after they discovered a van full of stolen items in Napa County. The van was reported stolen from Vacaville and bore a license plate also taken from Vacaville, Farmer said. Inside the vehicle were credit cards, check books and drivers licenses of 12 Solano County residents. Blevins may not have used the personal identification but may have sold the items to identity thieves, Farmer said.

Police looked for Blevins at his brother's house in Klamath Falls, Ore., in August. Blevins eluded authorities but investigators found his female companion who had warrants for identity theft.

Inside the brother's house police found property stolen from automobiles in southeast Oregon, Farmer said. Following a hunch, in September investigators searched for Blevins in the mountains of eastern Oregon. They found Blevins driving a stolen pickup truck with stolen license plates on it. Authorities tried to box him in but Blevins fled to the forest. Police learned the vehicle was reported stolen from Vacaville and the plates from Davis. Inside the vehicle were Palm Pilots, laptop computers and other gadgets tracked to owners in Oregon.

Blevins was taking the electronic items and selling them to support his drug habit, Farmer said.

Authorities continued scouring Oregon for Blevins, who was going between the two states and allegedly committing crimes along the way. In October they received a tip he returned to Fairfield,CA. and befriended a resident of the Bay Tree Drive Home. He told them his name was George Cartaker, Farmer said.

Fairfield police, California Highway Patrol vehicle theft investigators, Napa County Sheriff's deputies, a Napa police sergeant and U.S. Marshals helped apprehend Blevins.

[geberhard]

daimn!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ih4x4]

you may want to see if farfield pd has your x-fer case in evidence

[TONY K]

What was the name of the business Stacie had? They wrote some bad checks to me once upon a time but they covered it after a little "talkin to"

I think I saved all the important info on them that might help you.

[NothernAZxj]

man...so paypal isn't so safe....if they can just pay and later take money back.......it's useless. is there something im not getting here?


All baniking institutions have that right..........If you take a bad MO, your bank funds it........later finds out its bogus.........they take the money out of your account..........Paypal is no different........Some of you guys really need to wake up.... I have done thousands of business with paypal, it is still safer than checks or mo's.......but doing business anywhere in any form has its risks.

Dude I hope you get your junk back!

[GTA3wheeler]

Update???

[BlueCoyote3]

Update???

Nothing yet....
But I am not going to give up - ever. They owe me $, were sorry about the issue, have agreed to pay the $, but now refuse to pay up. :mad3: All fee's for location / recovery will be added to the $400 currently owed.
Sooner or later they will surface.

Memorial Day weekend in coming up - and someone somewhere will see them.
The crawler is #212.

My "$25 information fee" offer for current info still stands payable in your choice of gift card (Starbucks, Home Depot, etc). Alll the info so far was on where they used to live. Nothing on their current location (midwest some place)

This offer is for anyone that gives me the info - you can either post here or PM if you want to keep your ID private

[YO38]

Dude, just saw this post that sucks! Iv'e lived in Sonora for a long time, Ill ask around and see if anybody knows this f*ck hole. If I find out anything I'll post up I dont want anything for it, I just hate thieves:mad3:

[Nor Cal Wheelin]

Yeah I knew that fawk hole and his fat a$$ brother in law too....
I met them at Hollister hills with the big dawg rally....I sold them a hybrid axle for that fj 40. It was a dana 44 with 35 spline ARB, 60 shafts and outers... The check they gave me bounced higher then a 44 inch bogger off a 2 story roof.....
He is a piece of sh!t :mad3: and so are those fat fawkers that were with him........Good luck man and that really sucks....Post up on that fawker if ya do find his info...... Jeremy

[BlueCoyote3]

Yeah I knew that fawk hole and his fat a$$ brother in law too....
I met them at Hollister hills with the big dawg rally....I sold them a hybrid axle for that fj 40. It was a dana 44 with 35 spline ARB, 60 shafts and outers... The check they gave me bounced higher then a 44 inch bogger off a 2 story roof.....
He is a piece of sh!t :mad3: and so are those fat fawkers that were with him........Good luck man and that really sucks....Post up on that fawker if ya do find his info...... Jeremy

Same guy - in fact he even mentioned that he bought a bad azzed 44 / 60 axle for Stacy's Cruiser.

Other stuff that I have dug up - Kevin / Stacy used to own an off road shop / Tranny Shop in Nor Cal - Sierra Offroad - no longer in business...

Last email from them came from an ISP ( midco.net) in the mid-west.
Last responce on the Marlin BBS came from a ISP in West Virgina
They are/were members here on Pirate, Marlin, Colorado KF, NorCal Big Dawgs - all under the same name - Crawlerfj40.
Still have some more places to look

So now the mission is to recover monies for Marlin Crawler #212 AND the monies for the axle that Nor Cal Wheelin sold them.

[Nor Cal Wheelin]

Yeah thats them....He was with the big dawgs at hollister when I met them....
Yeah they burned me and then dissapeared...But anyways, I am over trying to get anything from them, I just want to make sure they cant burn anyone else on here.... They spanked me for 1600 bucks.... I learned my lesson though.....Cash talks and I am real leary around paypal, I have sold some stuff with it and done okay though...So I think its more on the person that you deal with....Crooks are Crooks.....They should be shot in the Fawkin face for all I am concerned..... Anyways, Watch out for him, he is way to shady and his brother in law or what ever he is too...((I dont reamember his name))
I do remeber Kevin and stacy though... Good luck Blue and everyone else watch out for these people...they are slime....

***side note, tried to e-mail him, and this member is not currently excepting email...LOL, what a Fawkin coward....

Crawlerfj40@aol.com & Sierra Offroad.......:flipoff:

[Saurian]

When you track this guy down, a pirate ass-whipping is in order. That's ALOT of money to shaft people out of.

[sloth!]

read in the uniondemocrat that mrs blevins is in being sued by tuolumne county for embezzeling funds from the youth baseball team. the county said that she had responded to the claims and was living in i think missouri(edit...it is north dakota). might want to contact the courts or the local newpaper.

[sloth!]

just found the article

http://www.uniondemocrat.com/news/results.cfm?story_no=20505

The former president of the Tuolumne-based Westside Little League has been charged with embezzling league funds during the 2003-04 season and a warrant has been issued for her arrest.

Tuolumne County District Attorney Donald Segerstrom filed a felony embezzlement charge against Stacy Ann Marie Blevins last week in Tuolumne County Superior Court.

Segerstrom declined to comment on the amount he believes Blevins stole from the baseball league. For the crime to be a felony rather than a misdemeanor, the amount embezzled must be more than $400, according to California law.

"The fact the embezzlement occurred is clear, and the amount stolen is substantially more than $400," Segerstrom said.

Current Westside Little League President Brian Morningstar and former vice-president Johnny Kellogg in January said they believed the amount stolen was more than $20,000.

Blevins and her family moved to North Dakota after she resigned from the league board in August 2004.

Segerstrom said Blevins knows of the complaint filed against her and has been in touch with both his office and Tuolumne County Sheriff's Department Investigator Deborah Moss.

Segerstrom did not know when Blevins will return to Tuolumne County to turn herself in on the warrant for her arrest.

Morningstar, who took over as league president after Blevins resigned, Kellogg and other board members contacted the Sheriff's Department about the missing money in October 2004.

Moss has been investigating the case and working with the District Attorney's Office to bring the charge against Blevins.

In a telephone call to The Union Democrat in January, after a story on the missing funds was published, Blevins denied she stole any money and blamed poor accounting practices for any perceived losses.

Blevins is also named as a co-defendant with Westside Little League in a civil lawsuit over non-payment of a $8,761 bill from Sport Supply Company for uniforms for the 2003 season.

That suit was filed in Tuolumne County Superior Court in December 2005.

At a hearing in April on the civil suit, neither Blevins, a representative from Westside Little League, a representative from Sport Supply Company nor its attorney showed up for court and a new hearing was set for today.

If convicted as charged in the criminal embezzlement case, Blevins faces up to three years in prison.

This year, Westside Little League was able to provide a baseball season to some 230 children thanks to donations from several businessmen and the Tuolumne Park and Recreation District

[hammerman94]

Anyone know where in Missery they might reside??? I will visit them a few dozen times

[RockwelledToyota]

Stealing from a youth baseball assn. That's fuked up in bad way...stealing from Pirates and then KIDS!

[mdill]

Sounds like you will have to get in line, this guy has bigger issues to deal with first. (What a piece of work :rolleyes: )

[Landslide]

Fawken crooks :mad3:

Sounds like the name "Blevins" and "criminal activities" are one in the same.

I don't like Paypal and won't use it either and don't trust MO's - I only accept cash or Postal MO's - fawk with the post office and they got the postal inspectors to take care of buis.

Sorry to hear you guy's got the shaft. If they are in MO area fill me in on any info and I'll take hammerman94 with me to ------ eh ----- collect ---- ya thats it collect.

[Fool]

Who is Loretta?


Borrower(s): BLEVINS, PATRICK K; BLEVINS, LORETTA J (Husband and Wife)

Property Address: **** EASTGATE DR, DENAIR, CA 95316

Property Use: SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE

EDIT:

Then I found "Stacy Ann's" pharmacy tech license!

Name: BLEVINS, STACY ANN MARIE

Address: ***** CRYSTAL FALL DR
SONORA, CA 95370
County: TUOLUMNE



Board: BOARD OF PHARMACY

License Type: PHARMACY TECHNICIAN

License Number: 00014561

License Issue Date: 11/23/1994

License Expiration Date: 4/30/2006

Status: DELINQUENT

EDIT: Stacy's previous last name is "Coelho." I've also come to the conclusion that there are either two "Patrick K Blevins" in the same area or he has two wives.

BTW that Crystal Falls house was sold on 4/29/2005 for $255,000. Knock on the door and ask for a forwarding address. I can give you the purchaser's name if you PM me.

[BlueCoyote3]

Well, thanks to the power of PBB this may be getting resolved. I got back and checked my email, and there was a message for Stacy. She appologized for the situation and has stated that she will send payment and a tracking # ASAP to get this taken care of. Will keep you all updated.:D

[kab5437]

good to hear that they might finally pay you back after the run around that they gave u man. And thanks to everyone informing each other of the paypal crap, i jsut emptied my paypal account and dont intend to ever use it again for payment options. Cash, MO, or COD only from now on. keep us posted on these buyers

[RockwelledToyota]

Right On!

[backwoods129]

Update?

[Albin]

Well, thanks to the power of PBB this may be getting resolved. I got back and checked my email, and there was a message for Stacy. She appologized for the situation and has stated that she will send payment and a tracking # ASAP to get this taken care of. Will keep you all updated.:D

It's been two months, what happened?

[BlueCoyote3]

It's been two months, what happened?

Guess what - NOTHING. No responce, no tracking #, no $. :shaking:
Despite numerous emails complete with my mailing address and phone #, they still have not paid up nor even respond. :mad3: I will post the email on here from Stacy with the promise to pay up.
Am still trying to get an address in MO or where ever they are from.

[blk87K5]

I will post the email on here from Stacy with the promise to pay up.


Post it up!

[1969 CJ-5]

Sorry that you guys got screwed, I have used PAYPAL with EBAY in the past but I think that from now on I will accept only Post Office money orders. Thanks for the good links in this post!

[GMC Jimmy S-15]

Wow... I cant believe what I am hearing here. Sorry 2 hear that all these good people got burnt by these scammers. One of these days, they will get busted and they will have a hefty price (jail/prison time) to pay for their mistakes. They can run, but cant hide. Once they get thrown in jail, the records will show they r wanted by other states, and they will have no way 2 get bailed out til they face every state they have dealt with for this crap. I am glad that I am not a paypal member @ all. They (scammers) will one sorry fools for messing with the laws!! They think its easy to get away with, but its not when it comes 2 facing the judge and the judge sees what they have done to other people, judge wont like seeing that. They eventually will get their jail or prison time to serve w/o the slap on the hand or walk free by a judge. If I was a judge, I would give them the maximum time to serve for this scamming stuff!! BLEVINS, PATRICK K & STACY will be one sorry losers for messing with the LAWS!

[sk8erman35]

hey i just wanted to find out what has ever occured from this and if you'd post that e-mail, also i'd like to thank you for informing me with the dangers of paypal, i used to trust it, but now it looks like i wont accecpt payment but will pay someone if thats what they want.

[Tech Tim]

Paypal is great to use when you buy stuff, they always side with the buyer; But do not accept Paypal when you are selling stuff, 'cause they always side with the buyer...