ok am new to the world of discos i am buyin a 1994 disco and i have been trying to find someone with one that has tires bigger then 31s i want to run 37 inch mtrs my question is will i have to fab up a lift for this mod or does someone make a suspension lift for a discovery bigger then 2 or 3 inchs and i know i could do a 3 inch sus. lift 3 body lift and 2 inch spacer but i hate body lifts so i want to go all suspension has any one done this i seached the net and found a couple but there was not spec sheet with them if someone has done this details pics and probs u ran into would be great

also what lug pattern are stock disco axles thanks

Here we go again.

You cannot run 37" tires on a Rover without significant drivetrain improvements.

Figure out what you're gonna do W/R/T the axles before you start worrying about tires and lift.

Or, lift away and buy lots of spare axles and third members.

also what lug pattern are stock disco axles thanks

5 on 6.5

what the fuck is it with all the people asking for pictures. do you want to wheel or do you want to turn a perfectly fine disco into a bubba truck?

a) there is a pic thread sticky at the top. did you look through it?

b) this is not JU. do not get butthurt here and expect us to think you're cool for wanting to strap 37's on to stock axles and pretend its a rock crawler.

c) CHECK IN!

d) read this forum and get a feel for what's going on and what rovers are like before just firing off the dipshit salvo


it sounds to me like you have a set of tires and are shopping for a rig to put them on. that's great and all, but I'm sick of bozos pretending that a big set of MT/R's is going to do well on the trail. what around hot springs could possibly need a 37" tire. disney yes. hot springs no! leave the mud bogs to the bubbas.

i get sick of seeing overturned rigs. i get sick of hearing about broken drivetrains and folks wondering why their stock CV's didn't hold up because they thought a big set of tires was the key to off-road performance. I get sick of seeing 5" of suspension lift with no other modifications. in short - take your tires to some other forum, because you're not hardcore dropping tire sizes around here.

And remember - shits given around here are in low numbers. i hope your next few posts display more intelligence than this one!

cheers or something :flipoff2:

5" springs = Rovertym.com

It will take BIG $$$ to do it right. And the stock rover axles will NOT like it one bit. If all you want is big tires to cruise the beach or dirt roads then so be it.

If you want to push the limits off-road 35-37" tires is getting to the extreme end of the spectrum for a Disco/Rover axle. And that is with all the $$$ on HD axles and such.

Unless you are in love with the rover, money will go further somewhere else.

All that beeing said I run 5" RTE springs + 2" body lift and 35" BFG MT's.
But I am just a poser:flipoff2:

And I thought I was being harsh :flipoff2:

5" Rovertym springs, lots of fender trimming. Talk to the guys at Rovertracks about axles, namely the Toyota conversion. See LWG's truck on the board here. To do it right you will need a lot more than just springs, which is all that I think Rovertym is good for. Look to SafariGard for the rest of your components, including a 3-link front suspension. Expect to spend about $4000-5000 doing it *somewhat* the right way.

i recently dropped an inch of lift after breaking a spring. rig feels more stable now. i'm running genuine +1" rear rangie springs in the front, and front spec RTE hd 3" 220 in/lb in the rear. i'm not really happy with the rear setup, so I'm beginning to lean toward some kind of cheaper coil-over in 10 or 11" travel; i'm eyeing 6100's but haven't made up my mind.

you need to build to the terrrain you wheel in. We have a lot of sidehilling around here in WA state, and not much in the way of actual rock crawling. jbailey, for your setup i would hope that those 35's are 12.50's on offset rims, because with 7" of lift you'd be toast. i've seen photo reports of stock series rigs, the rover I think of being the closest to trail glue, flopping around here.

the heavily modifried crowd gets away with this by running full width axles on heavy bias 15" wide tires, and having a an unsprung to sprung weight ratio aproaching 1:1. i'm sorry, but you're just not going to get close to these stats and that kind of leverage with a full bodied disco, no matter how much you want it to be. if you start wheeling outside of the rover crowd, expect to get spanked ... badly.

a good friend of mine runs 33's on 3~4" of lift on his disco, and it seems really top heavy. I can't imagine what 5 would look like on taller tires. another friend has a DII on vanilla 32's and i'm often surpised what he's able to follow me/us through without issue. it's not about the big tires and the lift. in most instances I think people's rigs would perform a lot better on less lift and better driving skills.

guys like way and lwg have really pushed the envelope of what's possible with a full bodied rangie and have run the extreme trails to figure out how they needed to go about their build as a result of deficiencies they've learned on the way. they've also been on weight loss programs. the disco guys around here that are going to big tires seem to be tubing out some or all of their rigs like everyone else, and are junking the rover axles to do so.

cheers

I've invested more than 20K USD in my truck over the past 9 years and now am at 37s, going 39s/42s - so I'd re-think things before going into 37s for a Disco unless its for a show (Thorbirds baby, THORNBIRDS! :flipoff2: )

35's on offset wheels ended up quite a bit wider. Also gone back to using the antisway bars. Made a huge difference in stability. But the Jeep guys already figured that out. I am thinking about going back down to the 3" springs to lower the center of gravity. I was trying to avoid cutting the fenders. Current setup did not require any real hacking on the fenders.

I will agree that most people just need more expierence not more vehicle. Not excluding myself here either:D

well bailey, consider yourself enlightened. you have seen the way and the way has sawzall written all over it :evil:

the goal of a good suspension setup is to try and keep contact pressure equal on each corner as it cycles through the range of movement - this can't be stressed enough - wheel travel is not the end goal! contact pressure = traction. most follks dive into the rover rear suspension with cones and long travel shocks and then wonder why the front-end doesn't work. must need a 3-link. well, to match the rear now, yes! but otherwise, running shorter shocks and retaining the rear springs make the front actually work much sooner and balance out the rig, keeping contact pressure up on the corners throughout wheel movement.

antisways are great for reeling in a long-travel and soft suspension setup, but be careful that you're not just masking other geometry issues and robbing wheel travel. there are a couple good setups now to break free from the stock type swaybars which are really too stiff for off-road. the currie antirok is the big one, but some of our crafty locals here can also hook you up with anything you might need, in larger diameters to better suit the weight of our rigs. check out S&N fab @ :

http://www.sn-fab.com/

http://www.sn-fab.com/images/retail/swaybarkit.jpg


cheers

Yes I agree. There is such a thing as too much flex. I retained the rear springs long ago even when I ran the 3" lift. Now I have the 5" springs retained and run a stock front antisway bar in the rear. Only b/c I was to cheap to spring for a Better one. Interestingly enough I have equal wheel travel all the way around. I know the bar I used is not the best choice and I wood like to run a front one also but the results were outstanding compaired to the "no antisway bar" setup.

As with all of these things it is a work in progress and I may just run wider axles and stay with the current height. But I am uncertain. I love My RRover but mother nature (see rust) is starting to chip away at the sills and cross members of the body. So I may move on to a newer body or something after my garage is finished.

Hey neverding I am running 3 inch rovertym springs O.M.E shocks and a soft polybush set relocated steering stabilizer H.Duty Track rod tube and rovertym diff guards and last but not least 15" nato steelies and 32 trxus tires and It has served ME and my style much better than my 82 toyota with 9 inches of lift locker marlin crawler ame twinstick and 330 hp and beadlocked 39s it was to much for what I was doingSometimes size doesnt matter. If your not running rock piles then go mild its a fairly capable vehicle by stock standards And by the way go over three inches and the trails can get scary on inclines going sideways.........

Yeah Sea Rover, you the man!! Retained rear springs good. Stay low very good. Balance very very good.
I've been running a 3" Progressive spring ,14" shocks ,and a three link with a 2" body lift to keep some of the heaviest parts down low. 35" x12.5" tyres on offset rims (with all the HD parts). The thing works really well and manages to get through some places that have rolled many trucks. But for the money and the time spent it doesn't go that much better in most places than much more moderatly prepped trucks with a good pilot. So I guess I'm not sure what my point is other than you're right, your right, your right.

Matt Browne
Overland Engineering

also dap makes fender flares for the discos, supposedly they allow you to run up to 35in tires with clearance at full flex with only a 3in suspension lift. I cant confirm how accurat that is but there is a pretty good write up on their website.