: 7100 remote reservoir mounting-front pics please


PTSchram
01-05-2006, 08:37 AM
Bolt-on my ass! How did you guys mount the remote reservoirs? There isn't much room, the hose isn't long enough (watch it Merv!), and the hose isn't flexible enough to get crazy.

I'm thinking conduit clamps would make for nice elegant restraint, but where has it been done?

Pendy-got any pics of yours on the 90? I haven't been interested in the shock mountings when I've been looking at your truck, it's been more fun to tease you about the lack of seatblets and the rollcage:flipoff2:

Peace,
PT

ISUZUROVER
01-05-2006, 09:06 AM
Some info but no pics...

http://www.washbrook.net/Stage%204.htm

Front shocks were fitted on Saturday 14th and look great. As the shocks are eye to eye as opposed to the standard Discovery pin to pin configuration we had to adjust both top and bottom fitment. To handle the top we used 2 Discovery II shock towers which are set up for eye styled shocks. A large hole was cut out of the shock towers to allow the Bilstein external reservoir to be fed through and leave space for the hose from the external reservoir to the main shock body. This set up worked extremely well. We have not yet determined the final reservoir placement but will do so when updating the engine bay set up. To hold the bottom mount we fabricated a spring retainer similar to that used on the rear springs and then welded 11/2" upright supports which were drilled to hold the shock eyelet. This was a simple fabrication and seems to work quite effectively.

madcowdungbeetle
01-05-2006, 09:17 AM
We modified some D2 towers to feed the reservoir out the top, and then used some brackets to clamp them to the backside of the tower along the inner fender wells

SeaRover
01-05-2006, 09:23 AM
and now you know why i bought emulsion and not reservoir shocks!

read up in gen4x4 - lots of folks re-plumb the hoses to be able to mount them further away from the shock ... but not too far, or it screws with the valving.

-shockNewbie

edit: curious what kind of bias you're installing these at for the ridehight, and what specs the shocks are.

lwg
01-05-2006, 09:45 AM
We modified some D2 towers to feed the reservoir out the top, and then used some brackets to clamp them to the backside of the tower along the inner fender wells

Bingo! This is how I did mine 3 years ago. Then find someplace in the engine bay to hose clamp the reservoir to..

jbailey
01-05-2006, 10:07 AM
that is how I did mine also. 400/100 12" I believe. Been a while since I installed them.

PTSchram
01-05-2006, 10:38 AM
edit: curious what kind of bias you're installing these at for the ridehight, and what specs the shocks are.

Whatever RTE said was right for the vehicle's ridiculously heavy laden weight.

Kinda like Sparrow air speed velocity...

The shock towers are DIIs with cutouts. I was hoping someone would have an elegant solution to this that I could either copy, or use as inspiration for improvement. I'm leaning toward conduit clamps bolted or welded to the shock towers.

I'm more than a little curious as to why the length of the hose would have an effect on the valving. I'd think the pressures would be unaffected and the slight difference in flow of the gas (rather than liquids) would be negligible (quick run to the shop office to grab my chem engineer's handbook). If it were a liquid, I could understand it having a greater impact, but gases tend to flow freely in closed systems. (Would this be an adiabatic pressure change? Where's Red90 when I need him?)

PT

ISUZUROVER
01-05-2006, 11:00 AM
I'm more than a little curious as to why the length of the hose would have an effect on the valving. I'd think the pressures would be unaffected and the slight difference in flow of the gas (rather than liquids) would be negligible (quick run to the shop office to grab my chem engineer's handbook). If it were a liquid, I could understand it having a greater impact, but gases tend to flow freely in closed systems. (Would this be an adiabatic pressure change? Where's Red90 when I need him?)

You will always get some friction losses when transporting any gas or liquid in a pipe. However the increase with increasing pipe lenth should only be linear.

If you really want to work it out, drop the relevant numbers into this calculator (assumes the gas/liquid is not expanding of contracting, which is not really correct - but close enough).

http://www.efunda.com/formulae/fluids/calc_pipe_friction.cfm#calc

wilsby
01-05-2006, 03:11 PM
I also used DII towers on my 110. A few minutes with a rotating file, and the resevoirs fit. I slipped my reseovoirs in in front of the inner fenders with a little foam as support as a temporary solution a few years ago. Still there and working fine.

Use a 1/2" tap rather than the self threading M12's that come with the towers.

I believe you have oil in the hose, and a piston separating oil and nitrogen in the resevoir? But neglible flow in the hose.