TOY AXLES

[zuk88]

OK,
After reading the flame wars on this subject and deciding what I really want to do with my Zuk I need to know what is involved in swaping in Toy axles. I don't need that "just put them under you rig, and get it awn" shit from people who had their stuff built for them. I need to know what I'm going to need. Steering, brakes, gears, lockers. What are the factory gears in a toy axle? can I still use my steering box? I need to do this low buck. Does anyone have a web page showing the install of the axles and steering?? I'm running a toy driveshaft in the rear, are the flanges the same on all the rear axles? What year axles do I need? I know this is a lot of questions, But if I'm going to make this happen, I need to know what I'm getting into.
Feel free to e-mail or PM me on this subject.

Poppy or Scawfish, I need to see your rides close up if possiable? Any ideas would help me out. <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0">

[poppycock]

there was another post that went into this a little. it's really that easy. you can come see if you want, your only in windsor.

[x2_rage]

We are doing this under my neighbors samurai in a few weeks. He is buying my Toy axles , that are under my toy right now, and I'm going for military axles <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
THe perches are a little off, looks to be about a 1/2" off per perch, so you will want to move the perches in a bit. Toy Axles are NOT crossover steering, so you will have to do that as well. You can get a replacement arm for the right side for about $250, that will allow you to use a draglink.
The factory shock mount will probably be a little far out on the axle, so you might want to relocate that as well.
Stock Toyota gearing is 4.10:1 . . so its lower than stock Samurai.

The only thing that we have been concerned about is that the output of the driveline for the rear is offset for the samurai rearend. On Toyota's , the rear axle has a centered differential. I am not sure if this will affect anything, an expert would know better.

[x2_rage]

Sorry, I didnt read your entire post, so here is some mroe information:

If you plan on wheeling it, you need lockers! Even lower gears are good. Initially, I wouldn't buy gears for your axles though. The 4.10 will give you a little lower gears, and you can buy a GRS II to give you the 18% reduction in high range.
If you want a cheap steering setup, you can take off the right side arm, go pull another one from a junkyard, torch or cut off just the arm part (not the mounting plate) weld it on at an angle (45-50 degrees), and weld a piece of plate verticially along the two arms for stability. That is a cheap and good setup. There are many pictureso f this setup on the Toyota board.
Then, be aware that your current draglink will probably not be long enough to work, since the axles are slightly wider. You can easily grab some strong DOM tubing, have some heim or FJ80 rod ends tapped into the ends of it and have a great drag link. Thay way you can also eliminate using one of those stupid z shaped draglinks. Your steering box, if its still the manual one, will make it HELL to turn tires. It would be a great time to convert to a power steering option, and of course you can contact all the usual dealers (Calmini, Petroworks, etc).
You should be ok with brakes. Stock Toyota brakes are really good and really strong (double piston calipers). I am not sure what the bore is of a Samurai Master Cylinder, but if its anywhere near 13/16 then you have what the stock Toyota isand you'll be fine.
Oh, and I've owned Samurais and TOyota's, which is why I know a little bit about both . . I just stopped by the board here to look around!!
When you start looking at locker options, stick with the EZ Locker. You can go with Detroits, ARB's and the Elctrics, but they are a waste of money. Most TOyota guys have been running EZ Lockers in their rigs for years, and most can tell you that they have NEVER had a problem with them. Since they are very cheap, you can save yourself money to spend elsewhere.
As far as the years to get the axles from, the last year Toyota made a straight axle for front and rear was '85. After that, toyota went IFS in the front and widened the rear end by 3". So, the most burly of the Toyota Axles, by the gauge of the housings and spindle strength was '84 and '85. I would recommend grabbing both from the same truck, in case anyone did any modificatiosn to their axles, and you could get a mismatched pair. ALL toyota straight axles in the early '80s had 4.10 gears. They are all 8" gears as well.
I would recommend buying some Marfields (replacement upgraded birfields for the axles), since the Toyota ones are quite weak.

If you have any more questions just ask.

My only questions I would like to know are :

1) ANy problems withthe fact that Toyota diffs are centered and the driveline is offset?

2) What is the bore of the Samurai Master Cylinder?

[zuk88]

x2,
thanks for the info, For a rear shaft I have a '90 Toyota CV shortned with adaptors for the Zuk axles and t-case. I'll be using this shaft so having a center diff wouldn't pose a problem. If it dose I'm going to add another CV at the other end!! Compound angles are not a problem with that set up, Tom Woods does this for severe angles. AS for the brakes, I heard the sammy master is good to go!!

[ 08-27-2001: Message edited by: zuk88 ]

[70Cruzer]

what do you guys think about running toy axles with detroits front and rear and 529 gears.
I was offered some of these for sale and my questions are how will the detroit affect steering in the front and will I blow birfs with the light weight of the sami.
also how would the gear set work offroad and on. Will it give me good onroad manners without buying the transfer gearset, or should we get the gearset too

[x2_rage]

The lower gears will make it good for driving on the street. The detroit will do fine on the road, I droe my Samurai with a locked front and rear, and I drive my toyota right now, locked up front and rear as a daily driver!
As far as blowing birfields, you are more prone to blowing birfields when you run a locker in the front. BUT, toyota's do not break many birfields as it is, and when they do break them its under situations when they wheel is cranked far in an outward position, and a good amount of throttle is given. This takes a bit of tact in how to approach obstacles. Since the sammy motor is pretty small, I do not see a problem. A good thing to do is carry spares. Other than that, I think it will be just fine.

[70Cruzer]

so do you think the 529s will be at least OK for a while offroad, like say maybe for a year to save up for transfer gears.

[mas2]

My Sami has Toyota axle with 5.29. The front pads are just off a little. I did not like the rear center diff even with the cv driveline. I am now waiting for my off set Tacoma rear end from TT. Should be alot better.

[fatkid]

As far as gears go, 5.29's are great. You can go with the 5.71's but there weak. The pinion is too small.
As far as the rear drive shaft angle the CV can handle it, I drive mine on the highway and I drive it daily.
Detroits are the best but I think there overkill on a Sammy, Detroits cost cash opposed to Lockrites. However If I could get a hook up on them I'd run them all day.
Brakes, just hook up the lines. The master cylinder is only an issue if you make one, keep it simple. Although the only wheeling I do is on the web. Get it... <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

[finder_87]

If you don't get power steering it is a killer to drive with a front axle in 4 low. Last night me and my friend went in his newly locked sami and he bent his tie rod really bad because of the steres. But bets me. <IMG SRC="smilies/shy.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/glasses.gif" border="0">

[fatkid]

Originally posted by finder_87:
<STRONG>If you don't get power steering it is a killer to drive with a front axle in 4 low. Last night me and my friend went in his newly locked sami and he bent his tie rod really bad because of the steres. But bets me. <IMG SRC="smilies/shy.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/glasses.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
I hear that, mine is kinda tuff to steer.I use 3/4 heims with 1" .250 for my draglink and tie rod. I think what I run is overkill by far but why not.
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[fatkid]

I have never had a problem with a Lockrite, I know people who have carrier problems that have broken them though. All the people I wheel with run Lockrites too, not to mention that none of them have had problems. Although the Tin Benders have been none to baby there junk. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

[artztoy]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by RICK@OTTINDUSTRIES:
[QB]Hi Guys


go Detroit soft locker this has been talked about on the Toy board and is the consensus.

Thats alot of bullshiat !!!

This is just my opinion
Rick


<IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> :smokin

Hey Rick ! You know what opinons are like and how they smell... <IMG SRC="smilies/eyemouth.gif" border="0">

[Tin Bender]

OTT
WTF?? Your using one of OUR club members as an Example?? Dude, if you ASK people what they run 90% would say lock right..
CHEAP, EASY and quick...

I love how you try to stand behind your "OTT".... Just because you Own, or work for some place doesn't mean you know your shit.. I have met wheel'd and party'd with ALOT of people from this BB and done work for even more.. I NEVER claim to know it all or TELL people what to run.. I will however tell them what works for me, and what has and does work for people...

I love your "IT's NOT LEGAL" to weld on steer'n arms... Where? I also love how it open'd a nice little spot for you to plug OTT.. I have done ALOT of x-over steering's by cut'n and weld'n right side Toy arms together... IF DONE RIGHT, it will last forever..

"Don't cut your spring pads" WTF??

Again, what are you smoke'n???
I say cut um, move um, weld um.. While your at cut and turn the knuckles too.. PERFECT Pinion angles,and PERFECT caster is all you'll gain... If thats "THE WORST DRIVE AND STEERING YOU CAN GET".... I'm all for it....

"WELD THE FRONT".... If your gonna weld anything, weld/spool the rear and lock the front..
To use your name drp'n style.. CAMO, FROSTY and a bunch of others...

"just my opion"... that's cool, but then you back it with a statement like "i've messed with screw'd for setups for 5 years and I've learned to do it right the first time"....

5 years!! hahaha.... there are people here who have tires older than that!!

OTT, you may have ment well with your, I know what I'm talk'n about so do it right (like me) reply, but it rub'd me wrong...

If there is anything I've learned from 20+ years of play'n in the dirt and rocks is....
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU DRIVE, IT'S HOW YOU DRIVE IT!!

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[DRM]

Lockrights generally last very well in Toyota diff's.

Welded steering arms are fine if done correctly.

There - I disagreed and didn' even argue with anyone <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

[fatkid]

If it's illegal to make a steering arm is it illegal to make tie rods,draglinks and steering box conversions? O' if ya buy an arm you can make the rest of the stuff, huh. Although I'm just a web wheeler. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

[duane_nv]

hey do you think i should make a new drag link to go with my 235/70/15 tires or should i get a dropped pitman arm to go with these big tires, <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

[UZI 9mm]

yikes! mmrrorrwr,ffffft ssssssss!
nasty ol' buncha sharks.
i'm always amazed at how polarized people get when it comes to opinions that "go against the grain" and then a generalized feeding frenzy starts to drive away the offending party...
from what i have obseved so far,the worst is reserved for those who seem to say things with "i know the shit" attitudes.
i tend to agree with the general principle of knocking down blowhards afew pegs.
(anyone remember the "calpolystud episode?")
but i don't think it's very productive to savage some poor bastard when he does state "in my opinion".
granted,HOW it's said makes all the difference in the world,even if it's backed up with "in my opinion".
.......(i.m.h.o.)
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[Tin Bender]

I Honestly don't mean to be an ass... If you know me, I am "the nicest guy you ever met" (if I had a dime for everytime I heard that..lol)..

I think that there is alot to be said for doing stuff yourself and learning from your mistakes.. it does help to be pointed in the "right" direction and in doing so you'll save alot of time and $$... BUT "right" for one guy is "not right" for the next...

WHERE you wheel makes ALL the diff. in the world!!!
NO one knows better than YOU, just how hard YOU wheel and on what kind of terrain...

IF your look'n to find a little "help" than turn to the people who wheel in your neck of the woods that wheel like you do... my.02

[ 08-31-2001: Message edited by: Tin Bender ]

[UZI 9mm]

ya,i totally hear you.
i have an "i'm always the outsider" feeling with most guys who own ANY kind of 4x4.
the guys with "big" trucks are always mouthing "get a real rig" etc.and the guys with done out Suzukis/Toys usually end up eerily mimicking them with "get a real".... locker like me/what you have sux,get one of THESE steering systems like me/my tires are the shit you got ripped off etc. etc. etc. they never seem content with saying hey,cool,hope you have fun with what you have,where you wheel.
personally i don't care,but i've seen guys who are more easily influenced,get all sorts of crap they didn't need or want because of "peer pressure"

[Tin Bender]

EXACTLY....
I do't want to bag on one of my fellow Benders, but Dan the guy with the 99 TJ has spent almost 70K <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> in upgrades for stuff he's NEVER broken??
but hey if you got the $$, and he does, more power to him.. It's just not the "norm".. not all of us have the $$...

[ 09-01-2001: Message edited by: Tin Bender ]

[UZI 9mm]

ONLY 70K? why heck, that's just chump change
( <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0"> )
wow. sure would be cool to be able to do that!
it has always seemed to me though,that some of the guys having the most fun are the ones with virtually stock stuff,just bimbling around,oblivious to the whole "you can't do that"!crowd.
(me included,i think some of my more interesting adventures were before i had lifts/tires/etc. this does not mean ill prepared or not thinking,just not "built" to the tits with APROVED this'ssss and thats'ssss)

[Krusty]

Look around- the people that are haveing the most FUN are those that are running almost 'stock' and the biggest worry is a ding in the sheetmetal !!!!! Over build/over engineer and then you have constant breakage and problems !
ie: as a club we used to run a couple times a week, almost 'stock' !-- Now we are built to the point that we wheel maybe once a month and work on rigs daily !
Anything that Tin Bender says I would "take to the bank" cause what he has not done, he has examined what others have. If you have the occasion to go wheelin with TB, he will be the one under every ones rig looking to see how they have built it and what works !!!!!! !!!
we don't run mud pits or horsepower the sand , but we have been seen bounceing over and thru rocks and dirt !!!! GET IT !! <IMG SRC="smilies/skull.gif" border="0">

[Tin Bender]

5 years!!!!...LMAO...

Let me give you a little "Bender background"

I grew up with my Grandparents
My grandpa was a Metal shop, wood shop, Auto shop, Welding instuctor/teacher for almost 50 years...
I spent EVERYDAY in the "shop" building something....

My father "Krusty" is a Toyota Certified Master Tech, and has been for YEARS....

I have worked as a Professional Welder/Fabricator for YEARS and have a degree in design from ASU...

I have also worked as A graphic Designer/draftsman for YEARS for Glen Jones out of Arizona...

I raced class 5-16 offroad for YEARS, and did all the FAB work myself...

I have built and total'd 26 of my own cars/rigs in the last 17 years...

I've raced/built mini stock roundy rounds for YEARS....

Drag cars, off-road racing, circle track, SCCA ralley, Tuff truck, Rock crawl'n, mussle cars, lower'd cars/trucks,HELL I even built racing BAR STOOLS....

I have worked on/built/fab'd countless other rigs...

I'm not try'n to say that I am the "source of all knowledge", but I do know a little from spending EVERYDAY of my young AND adult life in ,on, and around "rigs" of all sorts...

I'm in NO competion with you there TURBO...

Working with Toy axles in Sami's is no different than work'n with them in anything else.... You very well may have "worked" on more Sami's w/toy axles but if they were in CANADA then it's all for not, cause it just ain't the same as wheel'n in our neck O da woods....

[artztoy]

<IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> SMOKIN'!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">

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[Tin Bender]

Originally posted by RICK@OTTINDUSTRIES:
<STRONG>I know I should have never questioned your experience. I was simply try'n to tell everyone how much I love to get goats with a strap-on . I'm sorry about being from the GAY white north.

Rick <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">

</STRONG>


?? just what are you try'n to say?? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[KEVZUKI]

Whoa, This shits gettin crazy
alot of <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0"> and alot of <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">

[Tin Bender]

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[fatkid]

How many of you have put Suzuki axles under a Toyota? Well I have and it's spring under! I've been doing this stuff for 4 months, do it right the first time boys. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

[fatkid]

All right ladies, it's time to settle down. If you got your feelings hurt, I'm so sorry. No really I am, I'll behave. <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0">

[Tin Bender]

It looks as OTT has gott'n his "fellers" hurt, so I'll play nice....

I do however think that give'n someone a hard time and have'n a diff. of opinion is what this board is all about.... SO many diff. styles of driver, and SO many diff. types of terrain that there is NO way for everyone agree... THAT's LIFE...

ott, There were no <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0"> 's or <IMG SRC="smilies/pissed.gif" border="0"> 's in ANY of the reply's to you ONLY <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> 's and <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> 's.. If you took it as a personnal attack on your "character" then maybe you need to think about where your at.....
EVERYONE here has their fair share of "hardtimes" and had to put on their "flame suit" more than once.....

P4x4BB IS NOT FOR THE WEAK....... <IMG SRC="smilies/skull.gif" border="0">

[RICK@OTTINDUSTRIES]

Hey tInbEnDer

I had no probs going one to one with you or any one here this is not about OTT I don’t push our stuff here I do this for my Interests I have helped guys out here and been helped out here and up till now had no problems with differences of opinions but when someone logs in with my name and posts bullchit about me and where I come from well man that’s crap. I'll tech with you one to one any time but this goat f#cking thing, I want nothing to do with this kind of kid’s stuff. Thanks but no thanks I'll chat with people who have intelligent criticism

[artztoy]

Originally posted by Tin Bender:
<STRONG>
?? just what are you try'n to say?? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG> uh-Oh !.....

<IMG SRC="smilies/eyemouth.gif" border="0"> lol

[fatkid]

Quit your crying, <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0">

[Tin Bender]

Originally posted by RICK@OTTINDUSTRIES:
<STRONG>Hey tInbEnDer

I had no probs going one to one with you or any one here this is not about OTT I don’t push our stuff here I do this for my Interests I have helped guys out here and been helped out here and up till now had no problems with differences of opinions but when someone logs in with my name and posts bullchit about me and where I come from well man that’s crap. I'll tech with you one to one any time but this goat f#cking thing, I want nothing to do with this kind of kid’s stuff. Thanks but no thanks I'll chat with people who have intelligent criticism</STRONG>


Rick....
I beleive you might want to re-read ALL the posts above.. I NO WAY have I ever, or did I in ANY WAY, say ANYTHING negative about OTT...
From what I gather you have a quality shop that produces top notch products...

With that said........

I do however feel that your offence at the rib'n you recieved is very CHILDLIKE...

I for one have NEVER F%$K'd a goat, or in anyway looked at one and wonder'd...(okay maybe once) BUT the people that have come to know and respect on this BB have dub'd me a "goat lover" and that is fine with me, infact I think it's funny as hell.. WHY? Because I am comfortable with the fact that I'm not a "goat lover"..

As far as make'n fun of Canada..
I do and will continue to make fun of Canada until the day that your country is half as good as the godd ol USA... <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

I have sat around the campfire many a night with Canadians and had the "My country is better than yours" talk...(all in fun) EH..

As long as your PM'n people about your treatment by me/Fatkid, PM WHizzy, Big Bird, and the rest of the Gang that came down to the Toy jambo Jon put on at the Hammerz and ask them about me and my disposition EH...

I have all the time in the world to LIVE, LAUGH, and LOVE, but I don't habve the time for people such as yourself who take a little good hearted debate and turn it around to "Your pick'n on me"...

Once again, I have in no way made fun of OTT or your products, but I have made fun of YOU.
And from what I've seen, I will continue to do so untill I become board of it, or until you grow up and take it like a man....

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[ROCKILLER]

So tin bender, people tell you that youre the nicest guy..... but do they ever tell you that you're funny as all hell? Great reply, canadia sux <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

[Tin Bender]

ME? what about YOU!!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
URANUS....LMAO

[zuk88]

OK, Now that we got through all that s#it,....What I need to get is a set of '85 Toyota axles...right?? All-pro crossover steering looks to be the shit to have,but can I use the stuff on the stock toy axles?. Then I need a IFS steering box and pump? Will this "bolt up" to the All-pro steering or '85 steering? As for the brakes, Can I still use the sammy master cylinder?
Fatkid,
what are you running?
Scwafish & Poppy,
I just need to find time to come down to SR and see your rigs.
I'll just have to keep my Zuk drivetrain the way it is with no further mods(except for the Trail Tough YJ spring conversion) until I can get everything together for the swap. Looks like a lot of $$$$ if I want to do this right <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">

[Tin Bender]

:The following reply is only an opinion and is based soley on the modifications to Fatkids rig. It is in no way ment to be take'n as the only way OR the right way to do things. Lastly, the following actions,comments or ideas in this reply are not representative of the actions thoughts or ideas of the TIN <IMG SRC="smilies/skull.gif" border="0"> BENDERS organization or to be reflected upon any of the members of said organization:

Zuk, IMHO
The stuff that fatkid runs is...
82 Toy axles
5.29's
lockrights
Allpro High steer
250 wall drag and tie w/ball ends
stock, non pwr. steer'n (soon to be IFS Toy)
Toy CV front as rear shaft
Length'nd frontshaft from stock Sami

Simple, cheap (IMO) and strong for a Sami..


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[scwafish]

Zuk 88- I have an 85 rear housing, axles and brakes. all cleaned and ready for zuki-love, come down, bring a 6 pack, and its yours.

[poppycock]

how many damn rearends did you buy for that thing scwafish? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[artztoy]

NEXT ??? <IMG SRC="smilies/eyemouth.gif" border="0"> lol...

[fatkid]

<IMG SRC="smilies/bender.gif" border="0"> , it's what's for dinner.

[hottrod]

<IMG SRC="smilies/bender.gif" border="0">, It's all pink on the inside.

An orafice, is an orafice, is an orafice.

[zuk88]

Scwafish,
Your da' man <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> PM or E-mail me your address and what kind of <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> do you like <IMG SRC="smilies/question.gif" border="0">

[sj410x]

Originally posted by ROCKILLER:
<STRONG>So tin bender, people tell you that youre the nicest guy..... but do they ever tell you that you're funny as all hell? Great reply, canadia sux <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"></STRONG>ah yah, just jealous because we got the long wheel base and you guys didn't

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[scwafish]

Zuk 88-577.8273.....As to the <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> ...Corona is the summer choice! I'll be home til around 5 today, then I'm goin' catfishing. Halibut fishing in the morning tomorrow, but home in the evening.

Poppy-too many!

[ 09-02-2001: Message edited by: scwafish ]

[Big Bear]

Putting the Toyota axles under the Samuria is easy. Use the Samuria springs. On the front you will need to elongate the pin hole in the spring pad. You need to move it in about a 1/4" on each side. Then bolt the springs to axle. The steering can be done by unbolting the tie rod on the Toy axle and turning it around to where the stabilizer mount is on the passenger side. Make a new z-link and bolt it in. Or get the x-over (http://www.sierrarockcrawlers.com/tech/toyotadoublearm.html) piece for the passenger knuckle and build a new steering arm. Steering setup depends on how much lift. The brake lines will screw right in. Then redrill the pinion flange for the Samuria pattern. If you are building a late model Samuria and have late model Toy axles the driveshafts will bolt up. On the rear move the spring pads to the same width as the Samuria, bolt up the brake line, drill the flange and your done.
HTH

[zuk88]

Big Bear,
Thanks for the info, I'll be running 2.5" lifted Pro Comp YJ springs. Are the spring pads on a toy axle 2" or 2.5" wide?? On the rear I'll need to reset the pinion angle so I'll have to cut them off anyway. I have a Toyota CV driveshaft on the rear now so I'll just have it lenghtened a bit and remove my adaptor, for the front I'm running a Trail Tough birfeild shaft and I'll just use the adaptor I remove from the rear and put it on the front <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> This doesn't seem to be as tough as I thought it was going to be. <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">

[Tin Bender]

Zuk
It's one of the easy'st axle swaps to do..
Once it's in, you'll LOVE it and might even kick yourself for not do'n it sooner <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">


What is a Samuria? Sounds like some sort of Canadian STD...lol <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[fatkid]

It's too easy, why don't you make it hard for yourself and go with 44's. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

[camo]

Originally posted by fatkid:
<STRONG>I have never had a problem with a Lockrite, I know people who have carrier problems that have broken them though. All the people I wheel with run Lockrites too, not to mention that none of them have had problems. Although the Tin Benders have been none to baby there junk. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

i have broken two lockrites. when you guys grow up and learn to really get it awn you will want to save your pennys and get real lockers. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> if you get a lock right consider it temporary cause they have a high failure rate when used hard.

[fatkid]

What haven't you broke two of? I don't think you count. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">