I had some 4inch no flexing springs on and I rolled my Jeep over last week cause the springs were so non-flexabale, So I put on some stock YJ springs and it lowered my Jeep to the right height, I run 37's and I have a 2inch body lift, well almost imediatley I put the Jeep down on the springs, and they were negative arched already. Is it normal? they are flexing great but Im affraid Im going to ruin them if I keep negative arching them is this true? I dont really wanna buy add-a-leafs cause I like the lift amount right now. Should I run bump stops to limit all up travel? What should I do ?:usa:

What you got is some WORE THE FAWK OUT springs ;) It is nromal to see wrangler springs dearch or even negative arch, but that means they are almost about done. Get some fresher sprigns and plan to swap em every 1=2 years depending how hard you wheel them. It the dissadvantage of using stockers :(

yea my buddy's was like that after we did his spring over with stockers. He took one of the leafs out of his 4" pack and added it to each stock pack. It made a big difference and now they sit just above flat, maybe equal to a 1" lift. plus they made them alot stronger for axle wrap.

I am running custom wrangler springs

I took eight springs and combined them.

The main springs of a 4 pack gets added under the main eye of a 5 pack and the secondary spring gets added on top of the 5 pack.

Mine sit pretty damn flat and flex really well..

Steve, Are you saying that you have the secondary leaf from a four leaf pack on top of your main leaf??:confused: What does this do? I am running practically the same packs as you except for this, and they work great, but there's always room for improvement:D

Scott Maiden-
WheelingPiazza-
Rockbuggy -

Did you guys just cut the spring clamp portion that wraps on top of the spring?

I've got 12 stock packs (4) 5 leaf & (8) 4 leaf sitting at home

I wanted to cook up my own springs but just couldn't see fitting any leaves in these stock clamps. I thought about cutting off the portion on top of the pack, but also thought about buying spring because RE SOA's look good.

If you did cut them- do you have a major problem with them fanning out or bending the main leaf.

bending those clamps straight ain't working, those suckers are tough.

To bend the spring clamps, heat them up with your torch until red hot (be sure you don't get the spring too hot). Then take some pliars and/or pry bar and open. Now you can insert extra leaves by removing the center pin. When you are done take a BFH and bend the clamps back. BTW I cut the eyes off the main leaf of the extra springs I had for my add-a-leaf.

heat them up with your torch until red hot (be sure you don't get the spring too hot). Then take some pliars and/or pry bar

I've already tried heating them and I don't know what kind of clamps your bending with just pliers. Those mothers are over .25" thick.

I was asking because yes there is enough room to add a single leaf or maybe two. But to cook up some monster 7 or 8 leaf packs there just isn't enough room under that clamp.

I've heated them up red and they bend at the bottom (spreading wider) instead of up. I've also vised them so the only way they would bend is up, but man that wasn't happening. This was done with a torch to heat them and a 36" pry bar. For the amount of time it was taking I was better off buying new springs.

I want to cut them but don't feel like spending all the time to assemble the pack just to bend a main leaf or fan out the pack every 30 seconds.

I gues I should've just asked

Did you guys just cut the spring clamp portion that wraps on top of the spring?

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I used a torch to heat mine up and bent them with a pair of vise grips. I heated about an 1inch of hte top of the clamp.

After I was done I just used a hammer and bent the ends over again. the way mine flex I dont need to open up the clamps.

If you couldnt get them to bend then you didnt heat them enough.

I am running 7 leaf packs and use the stock clamps wont fit.
http://wheelingpiazzas.com/pictures/Outboard%20springs/52282404.jpg

Originally posted by Scott Maiden
Steve, Are you saying that you have the secondary leaf from a four leaf pack on top of your main leaf??:confused: What does this do? I am running practically the same packs as you except for this, and they work great, but there's always room for improvement:D

Basiclly it helps with wrap and adds support to the main leaf.

Why don't you drop the BL and add a leaf to your stock spring packs? It will give you the same ride height and the frame will be 2" higher off the ground. imo

Steve, is that 3x3x? angle you used for the outboard mounts?

Heating the clamps with a torch and then bending them up is the only way to go. Have you guys considered instead of bending them back down after the leaf is added to just leave them sticking straight up and drilling holes and putting a bolt between them, like Skyjacker springs use. That way it's easy to add another spring when they sag again. I have had skyjacker springs for four years now, and every two years I have to add another spring to the pack to get my height back. Pulling out the bolt makes this really easy, then you can just put the bolt back in. It will still keep the leaves from fanning out and will let it droop just a little bit more.

Mo, Yea 3x3x1/4 I belive

The reason I dont have a bolt on the spring clamps is the springs are free and I ahve another set waiting to go in if these sagg. Not to meniton it seems people are going to the Jc whitney springs and are having good luck with them. PErsonally I dont want 32 leaf packs..

I dont understand drop the BL? and the reason I dont add an add a leaf, I want the springs to flex, with an add a leaf the springs become really stiff and I dont get the flex I would with out it.

If you couldnt get them to bend then you didnt heat them enough

Thanks for the advice. I'll hit them again tonight with a renewed vengeance :D

FYI my stock springs lasted three months. I don't feel like changing the springs every three months. I bought Superlift springs then and they lasted three months. Since then I have had skyjacker springs and the rears have been fine for four years. The fronts I have added a leaf to every other year, now totaling 6 leafs in the front packs. Every other year I can handle adding a spring, and I have never lost any flex by adding leaves. They don't limit downtravel and on a SOA YJ with 38's, downtravel is where it's at. Even with 35's I had no problems stuffing the tires way into the fenders with the added leaves.