hehehehe 38's rule <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">


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Very Cool <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">

HOLY BIG TIRES BATMAN... <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
That things huge poppy.. I can't wait to see pics of it in action.
Adam C.
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<IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">=w/a huge hell yeah for ya...

[ 08-28-2001: Message edited by: ammelk ]

one of these days it will make it out of the driveway.... i hope. it's so close <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Holy haysoos! So how long til its going??? I gotta come see it.

Thats fawkin awesome. Coolest Sammi I've seen.

sweet!!!! what motor? gears? x-case?

very cool <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> What kind of drivetrain and springs is all that? Toyota Axles?? <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/skull.gif" border="0">

Very nice.now you got me thinkin on buyin a set, <IMG SRC="smilies/eyemouth.gif" border="0">

people told me it couln't be done... to them i say <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> i think selling the 35's was the smartest thing i did all month. yes they're toy axles, ome yj springs, and 21" drop bars. 94 to 1 gears are 5.29's with 4.89 t case and detroits of course.

did i mention the 97" wheelbase? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[ 08-28-2001: Message edited by: poppycock ]

I gotta make a trip out to Santa Rosa and check out some of this crazy stuff that you guys are doing there.

Poppycock . . you from Santa Rosa? I lived there for 10 years until last winter . . moved to Oregon! Where in Santa rosa you at? Who do you wheel with? Hng out with Geoff Beasley, Beckstead? Go to Cow Mountain at all?

Nice, I want to see what it can do. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

When ya going to cut the top off? I think the hard top looks nasty, ever thought about an exo? I don't know the body just doesn't look right, maybe it cause it's too small.

I like it it's got kind of a gravedigger look to it.

it does doesn't it!?!?! you should paint it up like it too. "baby grave digger" sounds kinda bad though. i never have like the hard top sami's but i have to say that one i like!

I say stay OD green. It looks good <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

i have to gt a bender and some pipe or tube so i can start the cage. i won't take the roof off until i stat it. i've yet to see an exo cage i liked on a sammy. i'm thinking of a tube front clip tied into the cab. most of the body looks like it will go too... mostly the rear. i like the hardtops but i want a convertable.

Originally posted by skeetshooter:
<STRONG>I like it it's got kind of a gravedigger look to it.</STRONG>

And wid dem meats, it's gonna dig J**p graves!
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that zuk is bad ass. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> what kind of price on that pitman arm rick?

your sami is looking good....:^) what are you running for an engine??????
l8r: <IMG SRC="smilies/roxy.gif" border="0">

thanks rick, i'll see if i can get it done here first.

it has a stock 1.3 with 148,000 miles. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> it is getting a new 1.6 8v very, very soon.

a little pwoerless for 38"s don't ya think?????? i'm thinking of doing a 3.8L v6 swap in the next week or so considering i blew my stock one running 33"(well 31"s now, i had 33s but got a good deal on the 31", they came with the 15X8" rims) so i'm moving up to 36" and a v6..........auto......
l8r: <IMG SRC="smilies/roxy.gif" border="0">

<IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> powerless? f course it is... it's a zuk. the 1.3 will be plenty, but i figured as long as i'm doing it might as well spend a couple extra hundred and get the 1.6. it's all about gears.

What gears are you running? i got the stock gears so thats why mine is powerless and cause the rings are shot......but anyways, it looks mint..... <IMG SRC="smilies/roxy.gif" border="0">

Damn! "got P/S?"

What are you running for gears?

it has power steering. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> as for gears it has 5.29 r+p and 4.89 tcase.

Hows it turn those 38's on the trail? Is a 1.6 going to be enough?

what kind of power steering do ya have on there poppy?

Originally posted by fatkid:
<STRONG>Hows it turn those 38's on the trail? Is a 1.6 going to be enough?</STRONG>

ya and what motor are you putting in it?

I run 5.29's and a 4.16 T- case with 33's, it does fine. Although I find myself wanting to go lower at times because it just doesn't seem to have it. I can't imagine what 38's turn like, that 1.6 must have alot of stank on it. Does it?

i'm already wanting to go lower. the klune is too much $$$ and they're aren't a whole lot of other options out there. that 6-1 grs3 thing would solve my troubles. i'll just have to wait and see how it does with the current setup and go from there.


it has a celica p.s. box and pump.

HOw did the celica ps turn your 35's? Did it overheat or leak? WOuld u suggest your set up or IFS set up? I am gonna have 35 TSL-SX's and dont want to be having too much trouble with em. What do ya suggest?

You going to make the Hammers? That could be a great test for your new set up. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

if i can get the engine done by then i'll be there. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

i couldn't tell you how it turned my 35's... i never had the chance. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

How long till you hit the trail? I'd like to see what it can do, what are working on right now? <IMG SRC="smilies/bender.gif" border="0">

i'm hoping to have it out in about a week. the engine is hurting but it will survive for a couple test runs... maybe more. just have to finish som little stuff on it. it's basically done

nice

are you going to fill in that back area with someething?

are you going to fill in that back area with someething?

<IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> it's not done yet

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As far as toyota steering... The IFS box is plenty strong enough to turn 38s

Chris Geiger and John Bundrant (All Pro) ran 36-37" tiress for quite a while before going to their new hydraulic assist setup.

I have a friend who ran 38s on his IFS(!) Yota for two years offroad. That thing lived on a steady diet of ball-joints and halfshafts, and he went through R&P gearsets like clockwork. But he never had a problem with the steering.

As long as the PS pump is up to it, go ahead with the Yota IFS box. Everyone in the Yota section running 36s-38s has an IFS box as far as I know. And with the lighter weight sammy, it should handle it fine.

Poppy... why don't you go find a beater Yota and throw the 2.4L 22RE, and a Yoota Tranny and twin-case setup in the <font color="green">Mini-Digger</font>? Sure, the Yota engine doesn't pump out much more HP than a sammy engine, but it a helluva lot torquier than the sammy engines. (125 HP, 140 Lb.Ft.)

You have the length now, so wheelbase wouldn't be a concern. You might be able to find a tired 85-89 Yota round you fairly cheap and just yank thedrivetrain... It would probably be very happy under the lightweight Zuki.
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i have considerd that. i think it would be the best route to go. i really want to run the toy cases and tranny. and since i need an engine anyways, it would be the best way to go for sure! i'll figure out what the cost difference is and see if it's feasable. sure would be sweet. btw i'm stealing that mini-digger name. i likes it <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

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<font size="4" color="green">Mini Digger!</font>

Go ahead and use it... I sure as hell won't ever have anything I can use it on. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> I thought you might like that.

The Toyota drivetrain rocks. Just make sure you use an 85+ EFI engine, because while the carbs in the Toyotas may be better than some, they flood and stall on hills as much as any other carb. Make sure it's EFI, cause some of the 85s (and even some IFS 86+ toyotas) came with carbs.

That would be one sweet Sammy if you gets the Toy running gear under it. And you won't have to fetch parts off of all kinds of donor vehicles, or carry non-metric tools on the trail. I love that you can take apart pretty much a whole toyota with 10, 12, and 14mm sockets. Sammy's are probably the same, so that's another reason to use Toyota stuff.

My personal recommendation would be to look for an IFS Toyota. The 85s, with solid axles and EFI, are pricier than the IFS Yotas because most people know by now that that's the best year. The 86-89 IFS rigs are plentiful, cheaper, and they come with the steering box you'd need to do crossover steering - which would make sense since you'd have the Toyota steering pump now anyway. Also, you can take the front brake calipers off of the IFS rig, go buy some 82 FJ40 rotors form AutoZone, and boom! You now have vented disks on your front 8" axle.

Also, the IFS trucks have larger rear drum brakes, and the IFS rear axle is ~3" wider than the 80-85 rear axle - but you probably already knew that. Plus, you get spare axleshafts, R&P, and such for your toy axles if you can find a part truck Toyota to buy whole...</font>

[ 09-20-2001: Message edited by: MasterYota ]

now your responsible for escalating my project. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> just when i thought i was happy.. when the engine dies looks like its going toy. i'll find one thats been wrecked or something. so i can get it for super cheap. are the carbs that bad on these engines?

after all that you still going to call it a "sammy" <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

it will still have the heart of a samurai. somewhere in there... might have to did a bit to find it. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

anyone know what the weight difference is between the 1.6 and the toy engine? or at least what either one weighs?

[ 09-20-2001: Message edited by: poppyseed ]

the toy has to be alot heavier its much bigger and has a cast iorn block,that dosen't answer the question
when i get off the newbe status ill go for quality

If FJ40 guys can call their small block, sm420, and Dana equiped rigs a Cruiser, I say he can call it a sami. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Although he's getting close to NASCAR country....realllly its a Monte Carlo, just like yours!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

Right...

newbie

Obviously they don't count "time served" so get posting!

Originally posted by poppycock:
<STRONG>are the carbs that bad on these engines?</STRONG>
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THAT bad? No... but if you're going to be offroading it you WILL be off-camber, then EFI rocks. I laid mine on it's side (about a 70 degree angle) and it puttered away for about 10 minutes till we winched it out. Of course, I would have had to shut it off if it wasn't getting oil... but still.

I've watched friends with carbed trucks stall out on a hill, back up, and have to hit it hard - so they'll get to the top before the engine starves. And this is a hill I just crawled up... <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

Plus the EFI engines on Toyotas have a different head, which means aobut 20 extra HP over the carbed ones.</font>

Looks like a good platform for mounting a spare onto, or just add a little deckplate and it's a step to reach the roof (once you shimmy up the tire lugs) <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

i have so many plans for the rearend. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> it looks like i'll have it finished tomorow or the next day!!!! anyone want to go up to cow mountain this weekend to uh-hem "debug" this thing. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> maybe someone with an onboard welder? eh? almost positive i can get it up there by saturday.

yeah i know cow blows but it'll be perfect for the first trip. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[ 09-26-2001: Message edited by: poppyseed ]

Poppy, call me I have secret proving grounds ten minutes from the house, I'm in!!!

Secret proving ground???? Are you going to take me there when I finish my YJ swap?? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by zuk88:
<STRONG>Secret proving ground???? Are you going to take me there when I finish my YJ swap?? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>


Then it would not be a secret. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">

I think you should "stretch" the back, I have an extra hardtop body for you if you do it.

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER:
<STRONG>Looks like a good platform for mounting a spare onto.</STRONG>
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YEAH!!! See...

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Honestly, go get a 38x11 bogger or something skinny for a spare, and just mount it up back there. You'd be the only guy out there who didn't have to drag his rear-mounted spare over all the ledges.

...Although it looks like you'd have to flus-mount a set of taillights in the rear of the frame or something to do it <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">

But THAT would look cool <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></font>

[ 09-28-2001: Message edited by: MasterYota ]

mount a winch there or a flat bed or a box

i'm building a flatbed when i cut the roof, rearend, and front clip off. i just have to get all the cage materials. for the time being though i think the spare looks pretty damn sweet in the photchopped pic. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> might just have to do that. the extension comes out 10". a 38x11 bogger could be mounted up there with almost no overhang.

woohoo! i drove it today. the engine seems to be in much worse shape than i anticipated. it's gushing oil from every crevice it can. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> i gotta get me an engine bad. back to being parked.

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Now's the perfect time to go to a Yota 22RE engine! Sorry, just wasting time here trying to get all the Sammy guys to run a complete Toyota underneath the sheetmetal <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

"HEY!!! You stole my "Mini-Digger" idea! <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> http://www.driveinmud.fsnet.co.uk/images/smilies/bash.gif <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"></font>

[ 10-01-2001: Message edited by: MasterYota ]

Poppy, could you send me some close ups of the fener cutting??? I finally got my axles back and am going to install this weekend!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0">
The axles came out to be 61" disk front and rear, and i picked up a set of 15x10 beadlocks and a set of 37" boggers!!!!
So there will need to be some trimming...if you could send me some pics or post them that would be great!

syost@caiso.com

sure rude. i just have to find the digi cam first. hey, what are you doing for gearing? are you looking at the toy cases too? are those 37x13 boogers? that's gonna be killer. damn i could only eek 57" out of my axles. <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0">

I thought my Landcruiser looked big on 38's..........that thing kicks a$$! What are you using to power it?

Originally posted by poppyseed:
<STRONG>sure rude. i just have to find the digi cam first. hey, what are you doing for gearing? are you looking at the toy cases too? are those 37x13 boogers? that's gonna be killer. damn i could only eek 57" out of my axles. <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Poppy, i have 5.38's with arb's and I have the GRS1....I just put the 1.6 16v in this summer so i have quite a bit more power...im looking at a couple different things right now for a case...Rgrs3, Klune, and kick stuff...The cool thing with the Klune is all the gearing options and the cleanest install..I cant go toy because i have the offset diff in my D44... Oh yeah those are the new 37x13 boggers!! Just mounted them up on the beadlocks and they look kick a$$!!!!

When are we going to see what that Biatch can do? <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

im trying to get the cash for the new engine swap. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> it does work... it just smokes... a lot... a whole lot. <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> want lower gears but i'm not sure if toy cases or the klune is the way to go. just gonna run the grs2 until i can get the super gears.

Originally posted by poppyseed:
[QB]im trying to get the cash for the new engine swap.QB]
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What engine? 1.6? Yota EFI 4-Popper?

<IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0">Yota-Yota-Yota-Yota-Yota-Yota-Yota <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"></font>

going with a 1.3 liter sami engine. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> all the cash i'm saving on the engine is going towards the new gearing setup. gonna get the crawl down to at least 200:1 so the engine really shouldn't be a problem.

where the problem will be is trying to get the mini digger to and from the trail......

it's gonna be a trailer queen <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

[ 10-05-2001: Message edited by: poppyseed ]

Originally posted by MasterYota:
<STRONG>Originally posted by poppycock:
are the carbs that bad on these engines?</STRONG>
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Plus the EFI engines on Toyotas have a different head, which means aobut 20 extra HP over the carbed ones.</font>

???? Head should be the SAME.....
Infact I have an 84 carb'd head on my 85EFI and i know lots of guys with EFI heads on their carb'd rigs....

Enlighten me please......

[ 10-05-2001: Message edited by: Tin Bender ]