: keith! anybody! somebody! spindle size?


Black Mustache
01-11-2006, 10:05 PM
so i blew up my back-part and have a detroit/hd r&p@4.75 sitting in the basement, but my rig is an 88. i tried to buy some hd shafts a while back from kieth, but you (he) mentioned the spindles being too small on that year...i have some leads on cheap rear ends locally, but need to know what years will facilitate the hd shafts (1.25") before i send anymore drunk emails.

gracias

ISUZUROVER
01-12-2006, 02:43 AM
What year 88" do you have? AFAIK all rear spindles fitted to series IIAs and SIIIs can fit a 24 spline (1.24") halfshaft through. All the ones I have tried have.

The 4.75 R&Ps need a 3.54:1 carrier don't they - not the series 4.7:1 carrier.

PTSchram
01-12-2006, 06:49 AM
What year 88" do you have? AFAIK all rear spindles fitted to series IIAs and SIIIs can fit a 24 spline (1.24") halfshaft through. All the ones I have tried have.


It's an '88 Range Rover Classic, not a Series 88".

But, I don't have an answer to the question and will wait for someone more knowledgable than I:flipoff2:

But, I do know that GBR HD shafts will fit a 1990, don't know if this helps.

revor
01-12-2006, 08:32 AM
Get the hubs and spindles from a 94 or later D1 or D90 bolt them on an gimme a call.. You shouldn't pay more than $100..
Or just call anyway..
303-506-9429

SeaRover
01-12-2006, 08:35 AM
would the front hubs off a '91 rrc work? afaik the spindles are the same, but i don't know about the hubs ... but i can't see why they'd be different front to rear. if you need, i've got both the spindles & hubs you could have fer cheep and am on the west coast.

tobbjo
01-12-2006, 08:53 AM
I have put Keiths HD shafts in my '89 rear. Merv, keep out! :flipoff2:
Took some slight turning to take the internal diameter of the spindles out approx 0,2mm, which leaves between 0,1 and 0,2mm spacing between shaft and id of spindle.

However for some reason I can not fit alloys or original steelies over the beefy shaft and shaft spacer. They are thicker than the original, making the wheel ride on the shaft bolt heads, making noise and trailing colleagues nervous about the wheel wobbling.

Took the easy way out and will install 30mm wheel spacers. The elegant solution would be to turn the thickness of the shaft flange spacer down by 5mm.

Tobias

SeaRover
01-12-2006, 09:19 AM
tobbjo - to use stock alloys you need to turn down the edges to make a pentagon shape. then they will tuck into the rims.

here's a pic of mine before installing them - the one in the left pic is the RT flange, and the edit: RIGHT /edit is stock 10spl.

http://www.speakeasy.org/~theFains/img/roverPics/drive_members.jpg

ISUZUROVER
01-13-2006, 01:22 AM
It's an '88 Range Rover Classic, not a Series 88".


Thanks PT - should have read the sig-line...

tobbjo
01-13-2006, 02:46 AM
Yes, I did that, only I used tha plasma to replicate the original flange more, since I couldn't get it to work, just cutting the sides straight. It took a lot of hard words before I realized I could not make the flange small enough to take the problem away, since it was really the thickness of the flange+spacer+longer screws+washers under screw that made the rim centre ride on the screw heads.
Perhaps the space inside the steelies is smaller than the alloys?
I think it is the different hicknesses of the hubs that's the problem, though.

Tobias

Michele
01-13-2006, 05:24 AM
I have put Keiths HD shafts in my '89 rear.
However for some reason I can not fit alloys or original steelies over the beefy shaft and shaft spacer. They are thicker than the original,Tobias

That's why he sells
Heavy Duty Rear Axle (steel wheels only)
and
Heavy Duty Rear Axle (steel or alloy wheels)


:D

tobbjo
01-15-2006, 10:53 AM
Well, the only difference between alloy type and non-aloy type, according to Keith, was the cutting of the flanges, nothing about the thickness, but you mey know different...

T

SeaRover
01-15-2006, 02:48 PM
tobbjo - it may be that the old style rangie alloys are different than the 3-spoke alloys originally seen '87 and all the variants onward. you have roystyles(sp?) correct? these may have a different depth than our later model alloys. i'd bet a set of 3 spokes bolt right on ifyou've clearanced the flange like in the pics. they work for my 3 spokse no problem

tobbjo
01-16-2006, 03:57 AM
Michele; sorry if I sounded harsh, but the post above I stated I had cut the flanges already.

Could be the rostyles are not as deep as the alloys. i do not if I have interference with the alloys. With one axtra washer under the flange bolts, I have.

What year RR or what hubs do you run with success, Sea?

Tobias

Michele
01-16-2006, 10:03 AM
Hey Tobia,
no problem (got my PM I presume),
all I meant was pre-modified axles could have saved you the job...
:)

Erm,it was just a friendly note...


Cheers!

SeaRover
01-16-2006, 10:16 AM
i run them on an ABS rangie - 91 to be exact. another friend of mine runs them this way on a '97 Discovery I. they tuck right into the center with no clearance issues. after running into clearance issues with my front hubs, i went with some nato rims.