: Shaving Dana 44


jpdawg
01-19-2006, 10:06 AM
Has anybody shaved a Dana 44? I'm running them front and rear and am looking for suggestions before I pull the grinder out. My main concern is not fawking with the cooling of the diff. It's not a trailer queen, so it sees some road miles.

bigblackblur
01-19-2006, 11:37 AM
i'd be interested if this is possible too...

geberhard
01-19-2006, 03:01 PM
why shave the 44? What size tires are you running? Honestly shaving a 44 is not as common as shaving bigger axles, since 44's normally have weaker housing setups than let's say a 14 bolt. No I am not talking tube diameter only here.

You can shave and plate pretty much anything, but consider shavingthe 44 ver ylightly not to compromise the overall structure.

jpdawg
01-19-2006, 03:17 PM
Was running 35s, running tall 33s right now. Trying to get as much clearance as possible while keeping the rig short enough to fit in parking garage.

I've got a belly-up and am planning the next project -- raising the gas tank. After that, the diffs are the only thing getting beat on the rocks around here. I could fix that by going to 37" tires, but trying to avoid that on this rig.
Might just have to get the sawzall out and make room for them. :evil:

CB87YJ
01-19-2006, 03:31 PM
I really think youll need the sawzall instead.
I agree with Geberhard 110% on this one, there is hardly any meat on the bottom of that diff already, hell, i recently ADDED steel plating to the bottom of my 44 due to the amount of steel i already dragged off of it on the rocks.

CB

desertsport
01-19-2006, 03:41 PM
Have you ever seen the inside of a 44. There really isnt anything to be shaved. How much groung clearence do you feel your going to gain by shaving your 44.

kwrangln
01-19-2006, 03:47 PM
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=365232

matts88yj
01-19-2006, 03:58 PM
You might want to flat fender the front and rear to gain additional clearance and maybe look into installing longer shock mounts. I am running 33's now with a 4" lift on a YJ and I will be able to fit 35's and 37's no problem after I get all of the trimming done that I want. Just a suggestion.

Matt

spinner
01-19-2006, 06:50 PM
i gained 1 inch clearance and a flat bottom on my 44 by shafing it.....has dan 30 clearance now :) send me an e mail for pics sk84x4@adelphia.net the hardest part is building another bolt hole for the bottom bolt you cut off and rebuilding the diff cover.......

jpdawg
01-20-2006, 07:31 AM
Spinner -- thanks, email sent. Nice website, btw. :cool2:

apeters89
01-20-2006, 07:42 AM
I "shaved" some off the bottom of my 44's. I mostly did it to smooth out the bottom of the housing. If you get rid of the things that a rock can snag on then it will usually slide right over. You can do this without removing much meat too.

WheelingPiazza
01-20-2006, 08:06 AM
I can truthfully say that after running for 3 or 4 years on my cj-5 with 44s and 33s, 36s I was only hung up once on the rear diff, all I had todo was back up and move to the right about an inch.

With a 44, if your getting hung up on it, then I think you need to learn where your diff is and correct your driving style. Sure shaving it will help some but Why?

if it was a sixty or a 14 bolt then sure.

spinner
01-20-2006, 08:54 AM
your not driving in big enough rocks :) if your 44 is not getting hung up with 36's.....

jpdawg
01-20-2006, 02:02 PM
I "shaved" some off the bottom of my 44's. I mostly did it to smooth out the bottom of the housing. If you get rid of the things that a rock can snag on then it will usually slide right over. You can do this without removing much meat too.

I've done this already. I think I can probably do another 1/4" or so without just saying the hell with it and whacking the bottom of the diff off and welding a plate to it.

I'm dangerous with an angle grinder and a welder (newb at welding but I'm practicing alot :evil: ). So far, I've resisted temptation to hack up the body much as it's a DD and still fairly purty (I think rock-scars are purty).

geberhard
01-20-2006, 02:11 PM
Be careful on teh usage of "purty", thsi is PBB, hehe :)

I personally would not cut a 44 much, maybe some grinding, etc.

Good luck and keep us posted

gui

jpdawg
01-20-2006, 02:48 PM
Be careful on teh usage of "purty", thsi is PBB, hehe :)

I personally would not cut a 44 much, maybe some grinding, etc.

Good luck and keep us posted

gui

It was intentional, but I suppose I should have added :rainbow: to it. . . hehe

I just fawkin' like jeeps and don't care how f-ed up the body is, OK? :flipoff2:

Will do, planning on pulling out the grinder this weekend. My trigger finger's itchy and if I don't cut the diffs I'm liable to mess up and hit the front fenders instead. :evil:

RockJeep92504
01-20-2006, 03:05 PM
I believe Cody Wagoneer ran shaved on his comp cj5. Will ask Jason next time in at tricounty

WheelingPiazza
01-20-2006, 03:06 PM
haha, No I just know how to drive is all..

geberhard
01-20-2006, 03:17 PM
hahah I knew Steve woudl have a good comeback, lol :)

Hey, careful with that grinder :D http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/geberhard/1ouchfinger.jpg

Shaggygto
01-21-2006, 10:34 AM
I hear ya man. Be careful with the flapper discs too!

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/lewismd71/Finger.jpg

spinner
01-21-2006, 01:46 PM
carefull with cut off wheels too, 6 stitches in my wrist...funny thing was it was a real clean cut, no blood, i think the heat cauterized it:)

JohnnyJ
01-21-2006, 01:55 PM
definitely with the cut-off wheels. I cut right index finger and got a tendon. About 10 stitches (5 in finger, 5 in tendon) and it took about 3 months of therapy to get 90% movement back.

spinner - if you want, I can post the pics. Let me know and I'll send an e-mail to the send them to.

rckwrangler
01-21-2006, 02:07 PM
I don't remember how much space there is in a D44 to trim away but I shaved my 9". I've also thought about shaveing my F250 front D44. If I could gain an inch in the front I would do it. Will it weaken the housing I don't know, I haven't seen any posts saying theyve broken??

RockGolem
01-21-2006, 07:09 PM
If you follow the link in Kwrangln's post, that is the axle I did it is about 4.2 inches from the axle centerline to the bottom of the housing.
http://members.cox.net/john.filbert/Mvc-017s.jpg

there is a lot of room to be shaved, you just have to trim up the ring gear a little and do some extensive cover modifications but it is a LOT of clearance.....dana 60 strength, dana 30 clearance

jpdawg
01-21-2006, 07:17 PM
Well, I'm not ready to grind down my ring gears, so I settled for grinding down the bottom of the diff. Gained about 1/4" and have a smooth surface to glide over. I ground until I hit the bottom bolt holding the cover and guard on.

spinner
01-21-2006, 07:54 PM
definitely with the cut-off wheels. I cut right index finger and got a tendon. About 10 stitches (5 in finger, 5 in tendon) and it took about 3 months of therapy to get 90% movement back.

spinner - if you want, I can post the pics. Let me know and I'll send an e-mail to the send them to.
sk84x4@adelphia, shoot me an e mail and ill send a couple pics yoour way :) thanks!

bigblackblur
01-21-2006, 08:16 PM
can anyone show me some pics of how you shaved your ring gear? I dont really know how you would go about it... Educate a noob

XJ_ranger
01-21-2006, 11:18 PM
taken from NAXJA

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showpost.php?p=364457&postcount=28

Some stuff to cut off:
http://www.fototime.com/%7BE8EF2B0B-7FF5-4375-BEA5-00361E6019F7%7D/picture.JPG

...gained 3/8" after some cutoff wheel and Sawzall work...
http://www.fototime.com/%7B3D34ECA8-E000-4BFA-A250-6C74AE33FD53%7D/picture.JPG

Added some plate to fill the valley between the two ribs...
http://www.fototime.com/%7B04561F01-A329-4205-97E2-3797FA451A27%7D/picture.JPG

...made the bottom nice and flat.

RockGolem
01-22-2006, 12:04 AM
can anyone show me some pics of how you shaved your ring gear? I dont really know how you would go about it... Educate a noob

This is the best pic I have of it

http://members.cox.net/john.filbert/Mvc-016s.jpg

It was accomplished by chucking the ring gear up into a lathe and then using an angle grinder on it as it turned. Do yourself a favor don't even try a carbide bit to turn the outside down, a ring gear is WAY to hard for that. Your really just trying to get the outside diameter down a bit without getting anywhere near where the teeth actually make contact.