Show us YOUR big load

[CanuckJeeper]

I guess I should get the ball rolling... :D

I drove this to Tellico from Columbia SC this wk-end.

I know the tongue was heavy, but it handled fine.

http://www.usjeeps.com/members/p80-1138644971.jpg

http://www.usjeeps.com/members/p80-1138645078.jpg

Weight receipt:

http://www.usjeeps.com/members/p80-1138645111.jpg

Heavy load considering it's "only" 3 jeeps...

JP

[Ex CCS Racer]

Based on your previous history of trailer tires....any problems?:grinpimp:

[CanuckJeeper]

No tire problems :flipoff2: ... One hub ran a bit hot but it was due to brakes not being adjusted properly.

JP

[MR4WD]

the other big load thread not good enough?

How was stopping, looks fairly heavy. How about tire weight ratings; looks like you might be a bit over on your trailer tires!! :eek: Seems to be a well balanced load though, wish I had a chance to haul that with my dmax :smokin:

[CanuckJeeper]

Well the other thread was "big DUMB loads". I don't think mine was considered "DUMB". :D

Stopping was very decent. All 3 axles are braked.

All tires are "E" rated tires, which is just over 3,000# per tire. Front is 5640#, for 2 tires, that's under 3k/tire... rear is 9780# for 4 tires, that's under 3k#/tire, and the trailer was 14,260 for 6 tires, also under the 3k#/tire.

JP

[MR4WD]

fair enough. Contrast is dark on my monitor and couldn't see the third axle in the pics... What's the trailer weigh empty, do you know?

[bigassedredjeep]

looking heavy JP, what kinda MPG did ya get?

[hybrid-theory]

can you say classA cdl.:shaking:

[CanuckJeeper]

yeah on the pics, the rear most axle has a grey wheel (the spare, really). That's why it's hard to see (and the picture is dimlit too).

Mileage.. Hard to tell, as I used my 100-gallon fuel tank and filled from that. The round trip on yahoo maps says 625mi, but I'm sure the total mileage is closer to 750mi. I didn't use the entire 100 gallon auxiliary tank. I'm guessing I got around 8-9 mpg. Still cheaper than driving all the Jeeps to the trail!

JP

[86YOTA]

can you say classA cdl.:shaking:

You got it, wouldnt be able to get away with that around here..

[HalfFastFord]

You got it, wouldnt be able to get away with that around here..
Sure ya would. See according to the nice folks at the weigh scales, CDL's are required for commercial loads. If it's a DD, not used for work, and the trailer hauls only things that don't make profit, it's not commercial. Hell, in Oklahoma we don't even have to tag trailers and can't get titles for them if they're not commercial.

[FIREBALL]

Here's mine, not quite as spectacular as yours though.
Trailer weighs in around 10K I think, and my '90 4runner on 38's fits inside. I'm guessing around 23K for the trip to rubicon.
Pulled with 6 quads in the back to sand mountain nv too.
Got around 6 or 7 mpg pulling the hills through Georgetown going to Rubicon.

(shameless plug)....trailer is for sale in classified section

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=438132

[lilox]

I only have one question, when you wieghed the rig, did they check what your tow vehicle was rated to pull? The reason i ask is i'm about to pull wieghts with my 3/4 ton that my truck, from the factory, is not rated to pull. Everyone i talk to tells me that police won't have any reason to give me trouble since i don't pull commercially, but i am just curious. Like you, in Kentucky i do not have to liscence my trailor, but i still fear getting busted for over loading my truck even though i know it will be capable with my upgrades in brakes and air suspension. Congrads on the pull, you made us Ford guys proud!!!!
Jake

[CanuckJeeper]

The girl at the counter at the CAT scale didn't care what I drove. All she wanted to know was the company name, I just told her "Private/personal vehicle". That was good enough for her (as per the weight papers). CAT scales are private, they don't enforce the law at all or have any reasons to.

South Carolina requires trailers over 3500# to be registered, I found that out yesterday at the DMV. It's a permanent tag, only needs to be paid once.

I'm not sure what I can register the truck to. I imagine to the limit of my driver's license... :D

JP

[sceep]

http://www.dana60.com/sceep/moab/loaded.jpg
http://www.dana60.com/sceep/a4f/rednecks.jpg
http://www.dana60.com/sceep/a4f/g-town/leave4.jpg
http://www.dana60.com/sceep/airport.jpg

gets a little tight sometimes
http://www.dana60.com/sceep/a4f/gunnison/toolong.jpg

old tow rig, bringing home his replacement.

http://www.dana60.com/sceep/rig1.jpg

[BenMara]

South Carolina requires trailers over 3500# to be registered, I found that out yesterday at the DMV.

haha i know some one that was pullin more then that one weekend of FUN

[EMIEVEL]

You guys need longer trailers so you can haul more wieght and piss off more people!
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/EMIEVEL/Chrispics2001.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/EMIEVEL/Chrispics004.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/EMIEVEL/Chrispics109.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/EMIEVEL/Chrispics117.jpg

Chris

BTW, thanks Mudslinger! I'll be posting lots of cool pics!

[Mr Roxy]

How many trucks do you have Chris? Everytime I see a pic or here about you, you have a different truck:flipoff2:

[EMIEVEL]

I've got an '03 Dodge with 400,000+ miles, '99 Ford (V10!!...still original automatic) with 275,000 miles, big gooseneck trailer, small enclosed, and a big enclosed 4 car stacker!!!
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/EMIEVEL/jobs/Chrispics9008.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/EMIEVEL/jobs/1.jpg

Chris

[fprbrooks]

This is the only way to go! Portland OR to the Rubicon.:smokin:

http://www.brush-busters.com/getimage.php?id=378&show=large

[CanuckJeeper]

How long is that trailer to hold 3 Jeeps + 1 truck? :smokin:

JP

[WVJeepBuilder]

Most Floats like that are either 45 or 48 footers

[SLIPKOTJ]

Caught this while driving on the thruway. :flipoff2:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b55/toojeeper/IMG_0257.jpg

[BigWhiteStroke]

Caught this while driving on the thruway. :flipoff2:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b55/toojeeper/IMG_0257.jpg

You have got to be kidding me....:eek:

[CanuckJeeper]

That last one... Piece of cake.

Check out the "one up" for that:

http://www.kaufmantrailersinc.com/catimgs/Model226.jpg

JP

[mudslinger99]

Chris

BTW, thanks Mudslinger! I'll be posting lots of cool pics!
I was wondering if you had got around to trying it yet.

Glad I could help you out :D

[landcru]

http://owens-export.com/loads/pict0982.jpg

[hpi_jeep]

http://www.dana60.com/sceep/a4f/g-town/leave4.jpg




why is your 5th wheel ball so far back on this truck? to me it looks like you could move it forward about 2'.

ideally you want your ball over your axle right?



just wondering.

[tenpack]

good thread. Wondering what your guys' EGT's where at while pulling these...

[CanuckJeeper]

I never answered that q?... So here goes.

My '01 F350 (7.3) has:

DP-Tuner with 20-40-60-120 settings
AFE stage 2 air intake
4" downpipe, 5" exhaust, no muffler

I was running in setting #2, and I only had to back off the throttle a few times when I was starting to go over 1300F.

JP

good thread. Wondering what your guys' EGT's where at while pulling these...

[2Hammer4head]

Newbie alert. Go ahead point and laugh if you must. This is my first post. I don't know what I am suppose to put in the "Title box". Hope this is still part of the "Tow rigs and trailer" thread.

Probably not the right place to tell about myself. My Tow rig is not appropriate for this hobby but I want to assure you all that I did own one in 1990. It was my second 4x4. A 1978 jimmy 6" lift 3" body and 40" tires with a tilt hood. Not the best option for bouncing around in the woods. I cannot provide pictures of it cause this was pre digital camera and I don't have a scanner.

You want to see stout trailers. I got lots of pictures of them. To stay with the theme of this forum I'll show mostly off road equipment on them.

I have spent the last hour trying to figure out how to put my Pictures in this message. Can't even find useful help to perform this action. Well If I, or someone else can be so kind as to help with this picture insertion phenominon, I will edit this post and include a few pictures of a Westernstar heavy haul tractor with heavy float trailers loaded with somthing big. The likes of Rock trucks (Euclid), Scrapers, loaders, excavators or whatever. I hauled all kinds all over North America.

I turned my big 4x4 hobby into a big rig hobby. A good salery the past 12 years enabled me to obtaine over $50k worth of tooling. Now I want to backtrac and build 4x4's again. My newest tool should arive in two weeks. Small Lathe/Mill combo.

I found a line at the bottom of my screen that said "I may Not Post attachments" . Is this some kind of newbie harrasment?

[PAToyota]

I found a line at the bottom of my screen that said "I may Not Post attachments" . Is this some kind of newbie harrasment?

Not harassment, you need a red star to post pictures. Look at the top of the forum for the "sticky" about getting a red star.

[Joe_88k5]

Caught this while driving on the thruway. :flipoff2:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b55/toojeeper/IMG_0257.jpg




I wonder if he uses E-Zpass!

And to think I was concerned with the tounge weight of a 30' GN on my 2500HD :rolleyes:

[Jeepaholik]

Damn, that dually is squatting bigtime. I wonder what the overload springs look like:D I bet those rear tires are just alittle hot too

[beartj]

On our way to windrock last year for spring break.

http://photos-374.facebook.com/n11/40/4/13721293/n13721293_30686374_3536.jpg
http://photos-371.facebook.com/n11/40/4/13721293/n13721293_30686371_1544.jpg

This year we're taking two :D

[CanuckJeeper]

Try to make the Red X's work... :flipoff2:

JP

On our way to windrock last year for spring break.

http://photos-374.facebook.com/n11/40/4/13721293/n13721293_30686374_3536.jpg
http://photos-371.facebook.com/n11/40/4/13721293/n13721293_30686371_1544.jpg

This year we're taking two :D

[beartj]

I can see them and I'm not logged into that site or anything. I checked on a diff computer in case it was cache issue and it worked...

Here's one that should work for sure:
http://porc.purdue.org/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10006/normal_c_%5C%5Cdocuments_and_settings%5C%5Crobert_ zapalski%5C%5Cdesktop%5C%5Cnew_folder__2_%5C%5Cdsc 00957.jpg

[CanuckJeeper]

Uhmn.... I wonder....

http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/macneil/2004/jan/black_kw_car_hauler.jpg

:grinpimp::grinpimp::grinpimp:

JP

[ChiXJeff]

http://chixjeff.dnsalias.net/CoPilot/tn/img_3010.med.jpg

Towed by a 1999 Dodge 3500 w/ 5.9l gasser and a 5spd!

One of those loads (double stack of sweet cherries) scaled at over 37,000 lbs.

[CanuckJeeper]

Must'a been fun to get it moving on an incline! :D

JP



Towed by a 1999 Dodge 3500 w/ 5.9l gasser and a 5spd!

One of those loads (double stack of sweet cherries) scaled at over 37,000 lbs.

[ChiXJeff]

JP, I've been utterly amazed at how well that rig moves.

I certainly wouldn't want to run it in the mountains, though. But in MI's Northern Lower Peninsula, making the short runs to the cherry processors, it's no problem at all.

That trailer is balanced well enough that it's not even exceeding rear axle weight on the truck.

[CanuckJeeper]

Way coo.

My F350 (as loaded as seen on the first page) sure 'torqued' a lot when leaving a dead stop at an incline. You could physically see the truck torquing from left to right. That was in granny-low, needless to say. I even had to rev up the engine and slip the clutch a bit. But nothing major.

JP

[MNorby]

Here is my heaviest so far. A load of bulk oil. Scale pic was low on fuel w/o me.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e23/mnorby/Trucks/0b39837b.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e23/mnorby/Trucks/Image072.jpg

And not the heaviest but my longest, the gooseneck trailer I bought for $625 and the bumper pull picked up for $375. Was 79' long if I remember right. Gooseneck is 42' overall with a 34' main deck and the bumper pull has a 16' deck. Also bnought another half build home made 27' gooseneck that day for $200 with 3 good axles and a good tongue.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e23/mnorby/Trucks/57a3b139.jpg

There we go

[4x4extreme]

You need a host for your pics so we can see them without being logged in to towrig.com

[Albin]

Here is my heaviest so far. A load of bulk oil. Scale pic was low on fuel w/o me.
http://towrig.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=272&stc=1&d=1133393797
http://towrig.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=271&stc=1&d=1133393797

And not the heaviest but my longest, the gooseneck trailer I bought for $625 and the bumper pull picked up for $375. Was 79' long if I remember right. Gooseneck is 42' overall with a 34' main deck and the bumper pull has a 16' deck. Also bnought another half build home made 27' gooseneck that day for $200 with 3 good axles and a good tongue.
http://towrig.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=409&stc=1&d=1139719485

Cancel, pics show up nice now.

Thanks,

Al

[Mud Slayer 2.0]

Here is my heaviest so far. A load of bulk oil. Scale pic was low on fuel w/o me.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e23/mnorby/Trucks/0b39837b.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e23/mnorby/Trucks/Image072.jpg

And not the heaviest but my longest, the gooseneck trailer I bought for $625 and the bumper pull picked up for $375. Was 79' long if I remember right. Gooseneck is 42' overall with a 34' main deck and the bumper pull has a 16' deck. Also bnought another half build home made 27' gooseneck that day for $200 with 3 good axles and a good tongue.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e23/mnorby/Trucks/57a3b139.jpg

There we go

Is that length even legal ?

[Rockhales]

Sure ya would. See according to the nice folks at the weigh scales, CDL's are required for commercial loads. If it's a DD, not used for work, and the trailer hauls only things that don't make profit, it's not commercial. Hell, in Oklahoma we don't even have to tag trailers and can't get titles for them if they're not commercial.guys at the scales hu.Any trailer over 10 k can get you a ticket with out the right lic. True if you not making $ going down the road it's a grey area but there some things you need to check on , Duallys hauling 3 & 4 cars are EVERY where whats the big deal, I have two 53' bigtex's hauling new boats out of sweetwater TN & ''backloading'' car & trucks. aka lots of miles, Be ready all the DOTs(most of them any way)) cops i'v met try to bust balls on duallys.http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/rules-regulations.htm

[bhaugen]

guys at the scales hu.Any trailer over 10 k can get you a ticket with out the right lic. ]http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/rules-regulations.htm[/url]True if you not making $ going down the road it's a grey area but there some things you need to check on , Duallys hauling 3 & 4 cars are EVERY where whats the big deal, I have two 53' bigtex's hauling new boats out of sweetwater TN & ''backloading'' car & trucks

I checked out my home state (MN) when I bought my gooseneck and I am good for combinations up to 26K with my class D license. If I haul for $$$ or go over 26K then I need Class A.

[Rockhales]

I checked out my home state (MN) when I bought my gooseneck and I am good for combinations up to 26K with my class D license. If I haul for $$$ or go over 26K then I need Class A.Yea its not the same for every one. (should be)
My home state of Georgia the reguler class C says ''may opeate single vehicles less than 26,001 gvwr. may tow trailer less than 10,001 gvwr''. State to state is not the same

[Aces'n'8s]

Sure ya would. See according to the nice folks at the weigh scales, CDL's are required for commercial loads. If it's a DD, not used for work, and the trailer hauls only things that don't make profit, it's not commercial. Hell, in Oklahoma we don't even have to tag trailers and can't get titles for them if they're not commercial.


Oklahoma manual (http://www.dps.state.ok.us/dls/pub/commanual.pdf)

In TN, it doesn't matter if the load is private or commercial, if your combined vehicle and trailer weight, including the driver, is > 26,000lbs., you must have a Class A CDL and a medical card. Lately, the local TN, AR, and MS DOT Commercial Vehicle Enforcement rovers have been coming down hard on people who pull heavy loads that "look" like they are 26,000lbs an over.

Here's the PDF of the Oklahoma commercial driver's manual.

Here's a pic of Oklahoma's CDL specifications, but your single truck doesn't weigh >26,000lbs. However, if your trailer is rated to tow >10,000lbs and since your combined weight exceeded 26,000lbs, I believe my interpretation of that specification would mean you should have a CDL?

[Rockhales]

Classes of License:

The Federal standard requires States to issue a CDL to drivers according to the following license classifications:

Class A -- Any combination of vehicles with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.

Class B -- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 pounds GVWR.

Class C -- Any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that does not meet the definition of Class A or Class B, but is either designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver, or is placarded for hazardous materials. Looks like a FEDERAL LAW

[Mud Slayer 2.0]

I beleive you need a class E to haul liquids as well (in large quanity as well) or maybe that fals under C but i thought i remembered hearing about thr E class when working for the city.

[Albin]

Not my load, but a pretty big load, nonetheless. Probably the biggest load we'll ever see.

Thunderhorse oil platform on the Dock Wise Blue Marlin carrier ship. You might remember the Blue Marlin as the ship that brought the USS Cole back home.

It's last major mission was to take the SBX-1 GMD X-band radar ship from the Gulf to Hawaii last spring.

Al

[prototype]

Oklahoma manual (http://www.dps.state.ok.us/dls/pub/commanual.pdf)

In TN, it doesn't matter if the load is private or commercial, if your combined vehicle and trailer weight, including the driver, is > 26,000lbs., you must have a Class A CDL and a medical card. Lately, the local TN, AR, and MS DOT Commercial Vehicle Enforcement rovers have been coming down hard on people who pull heavy loads that "look" like they are 26,000lbs an over.

Here's the PDF of the Oklahoma commercial driver's manual.

Here's a pic of Oklahoma's CDL specifications, but your single truck doesn't weigh >26,000lbs. However, if your trailer is rated to tow >10,000lbs and since your combined weight exceeded 26,000lbs, I believe my interpretation of that specification would mean you should have a CDL?

Who the fuck cares. If people want to risk there ass let them. It all varies from state to state.

[Aces'n'8s]

Who the fuck cares. If people want to rick there ass let them. It all varies from state to state.


WTF is "rick there ass"?

I don't care. I, like so many on the PBB, was just pointing out an issue of important consideration. It does vary from state to state...but usually regulations governing driving practices are in the ballpark.

[prototype]

oops rick=risk

[prototype]

WTF is "rick there ass"?

I don't care. I, like so many on the PBB, was just pointing out an issue of important consideration. It does vary from state to state...but usually regulations governing driving practices are in the ballpark.

There never in the ballpark of each other. I drove trucks for 6 years and i would get loaded in CA and by the time i got in to IL i had 3 tickets for steel coils. CA had there own laws for this shit then other states do. One state will have there own laws that others didnt agree to.

[Jrod-13]

I checked out my home state (MN) when I bought my gooseneck and I am good for combinations up to 26K with my class D license. If I haul for $$$ or go over 26K then I need Class A.

thats right in line with what I have found, but you have to kinda read into things..

The MN drivers handbook says.

" Class D license, this is the most common license for minnesota drivers. If you have a Class D drivers license, you may operate."

A towed vehical with the combined gross vehical weight of 26,000lbs or less.

but then, later on it goes to say
" class B license, with necessary endorsements, allows the holder to operated all class C and D vehicals and all other single unit vehicles. the holder of a class B license may only tow vehicles with a gross vehical weight of 10,000 pounds or less."

quite the contridiction..

But then reading in the MN commercial manual
" Class A - ANy vehical towing a unit of more than 10,000 pounds GVWR with a gross combination weight rating (truck plus trailer) over 26,000 pounds."

summing these up you get
Class D/C - any combos up to 26K
Class B - any combos up to 26K, but the trailer cannot be over 10K, if the power rig is over 26K
Class A - any combo.


Now whats REALY goofy, and boils down too.... is I can legaly pull our D-4 on our tri-axle pintle trailer(around 18K total), behind my F-350(not very smart, or safe)

But I CAN'T pull it with any of our fuel trucks, or our dump truck(which would be completely safe...) But then I can CAN legaly pull my wheeling rig, on our smaller trailer, behind said fuel truck(being I have a class B with hazmat, tanker.. etc.)

Pretty funny how the laws really work..

[Paul Gagnon]

gets a little tight sometimes
http://www.dana60.com/sceep/a4f/gunnison/toolong.jpg



Is that toilet chain? :flipoff2:

[Aces'n'8s]

There never in the ballpark of each other. I drove trucks for 6 years and i would get loaded in CA and by the time i got in to IL i had 3 tickets for steel coils. CA had there own laws for this shit then other states do. One state will have there own laws that others didnt agree to.

Concerning LICENSE CLASSES, they are somewhat in the ballpark...Most states require CDL for loads 26,000lbs. + .

Regarding specific loads, now that's another matter entirely. As, I'm sure other states have different regs governing specific loads as they pertain to placarding, securing, concealment, and the like.

[bhaugen]

thats right in line with what I have found, but you have to kinda read into things..

The MN drivers handbook says.

" Class D license, this is the most common license for minnesota drivers. If you have a Class D drivers license, you may operate."

A towed vehical with the combined gross vehical weight of 26,000lbs or less.

but then, later on it goes to say
" class B license, with necessary endorsements, allows the holder to operated all class C and D vehicals and all other single unit vehicles. the holder of a class B license may only tow vehicles with a gross vehical weight of 10,000 pounds or less."

quite the contridiction..

But then reading in the MN commercial manual
" Class A - ANy vehical towing a unit of more than 10,000 pounds GVWR with a gross combination weight rating (truck plus trailer) over 26,000 pounds."

summing these up you get
Class D/C - any combos up to 26K
Class B - any combos up to 26K, but the trailer cannot be over 10K, if the power rig is over 26K
Class A - any combo.


Now whats REALY goofy, and boils down too.... is I can legaly pull our D-4 on our tri-axle pintle trailer(around 18K total), behind my F-350(not very smart, or safe)

But I CAN'T pull it with any of our fuel trucks, or our dump truck(which would be completely safe...) But then I can CAN legaly pull my wheeling rig, on our smaller trailer, behind said fuel truck(being I have a class B with hazmat, tanker.. etc.)

Pretty funny how the laws really work..

The laws are not easily read. I got hung up the Trailer over 10k for a while until I understood it in combination with a tow rig that was rated for over 26k. The people at the DMV were (in this case) very helpful in making sure I was clear on this.

As far as being able to pull your D-4 you will be outside the Weight rating on the F-350 so they could get you with that if they pull you over.

[Rockhales]

http://www.etrucker.com/apps/news/article.asp?id=52354

[4x4not]

Damn... now THAT is a heavy load. 113 freaking trailers!!! Them Aussies are CRAZY man :flipoff2:

[Jrod-13]

As far as being able to pull your D-4 you will be outside the Weight rating on the F-350 so they could get you with that if they pull you over.

Weight ratings of the truck mean nothing to the DOT, what the tires are rated for, and what your are licensed for, however, does. This isn't saying that if I DID do such thing, and got in a accident, I couldn't be sued for going over fords ratings, or couldn't be charged with reckless endagerment, etc; yes, but over loaded; no. Look at how many people(car carriers, hot shotters, etc.) pull big loads with a 1 ton dually, who run 40K plates, DOT numbers, log books, have a class A CDL, and cross scales daily, without a ticket.

If you take a look at the door sticker in a semi, they generaly say 80K GCWR, but yet, here in MI, you can legaly run them at 164K, all day long.
Similarly, our 03' intl. 4300 has a 33k GVWR, when we added a lift axle to it(single 17.5" tire), the truck was simply replated with a 48K tag.

[TrevorXJ]

Here is mine 1999 F250 with a Artic Fox 860 and a 8200lbs of trailer and vehicle.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid210/pe4869d0962e089ca242c55f73d352fcc/edcae721.jpg