Soooo. I am a very indecisive SOAB. I bought a dom-z-link from snoopy to go with my stock scout axles.

I now have this
http://www.wootworx.com/images/buildup/IMG_2360%20(Small).JPG

I want to go el cheapo for now. Because later I will go for crane knuckles and hy-steer. I need it hi-way safe, and sand dunable... No rocks untill it gets hysteer beef.

Options..thoughts...suggestions

Waggy axle??

Bolt them in, run a Z-link an call it good.



Why crane knuckles?? You hear LOTS of people having issues with stock flat-tops?? For a rec. wheeler seems like a waste of money but hey, to each its own.

I like High-Steer, but I have no issues with Z-links, if they are built well enought, they can last. Save the D&C one for a later project, or cut it down to use with this axle.



Whats so special about the pictured axle any way? Why do you want to use it over what you have now..... wait, what the heck IS that axle in the pic? Looks SUA, passenger side diff, but the hubs look to be 8-lug, but not like normal 8-lug axles, more like 1/2 ton hubs with 8-lugs....

:wtf:

Its a full width 44. Out of a full size jeep. not waggy. 74 p/u 6 bolt pattern of some sort
and not a flat top...

Why did you get a front axle that is set up sprung under .
Aren't you going SOA ?

Why did you get a front axle that is set up sprung under .
Aren't you going SOA ?


Good question - I was wondering the same myself. At first I thought it was just 'upside' - but the knuckles and brake bracket don't lie...

For quick and dirty steering, without flat tops, build a super stout Z link using ends that match what you have.

Then down the road go spend $50 on a set of flat tops - $50 to get them machined and $100 to get an arm and raise up the drag link and ditch the Z link - build your own drag link with some DOM and weld in threaded inserts.

If it's out of a wide-track J-truck, the Z-link he has won't work - it's not long enough.

SUA J-truck front end would be a good setup if you wanted to run SUA but full width - retain happier leaf springs and still get a wide n' stable stance after you sawzall the body.. along with being able to turn. :D

Find someone building a low-rider Chevy truck 4x4 and trade for the Chevy truck SOA front end.. buy one high-steer arm and a new lengthened draglink and call it good.

No it will be soa. Less work than the scout one. Thats for sure..

Im thinking beefy z-link right now....

It is a FULL WIDTH Dana 44 out of a 74 Jeep pickup...

If it's out of a wide-track J-truck, the Z-link he has won't work - it's not long enough.

SUA J-truck front end would be a good setup if you wanted to run SUA but full width - retain happier leaf springs and still get a wide n' stable stance after you sawzall the body.. along with being able to turn. :D

Find someone building a low-rider Chevy truck 4x4 and trade for the Chevy truck SOA front end.. buy one high-steer arm and a new lengthened draglink and call it good.

I'm kind of going to be running that same axle in my trail rig project, that axle (which, in my case, came out of a mid 70's Cherokee Chief) is about 2.5" narrower overall than a full-width Chevy...about 2" on the pass. side, .5" on the dr. side. The only drawback to using that axle is that it's a lot easier to find Chevy inner axle shafts in the junkyard than J-truck and Cherokee Chief shafts.

-Gary

Why did you get a front axle that is set up sprung under .
Aren't you going SOA ?

Cant find any cheap full width 44's for SOA. Plus its a 2.5'' spring, will take grinding regardless I'd assume.. Barely any more work.

I'm kind of going to be running that same axle in my trail rig project, that axle (which, in my case, came out of a mid 70's Cherokee Chief) is about 2.5" narrower overall than a full-width Chevy...about 2" on the pass. side, .5" on the dr. side. The only drawback to using that axle is that it's a lot easier to find Chevy inner axle shafts in the junkyard than J-truck and Cherokee Chief shafts.

-Gary

I've given some thought to taking out my Chevy SOA front end and stock leaf springs for the FSJ SUA D44 and some 4" lift springs.

I'd get more usable suspension travel, the springs would last longer, and I'd lower my ride height a little while raising my bump-travel.

Unfortunately, I'm too lazy to get 'round to it. :D Besides, I keep thinking I want to link the front and dump the leaves entirely, though it might hurt me class wise.

On the plus side for your axle shaft problem - you can have Moser (and others) shorten a Chevy D44 axle - say, one that someone twisted the splines off of.

We do that for EBs a lot.

On the plus side for your axle shaft problem - you can have Moser (and others) shorten a Chevy D44 axle - say, one that someone twisted the splines off of.

We do that for EBs a lot.


Duh, didn't even think of that...good point!

-Gary

Cant find any cheap full width 44's for SOA. Plus its a 2.5'' spring, will take grinding regardless I'd assume.. Barely any more work.
I'm really surprised you can't find a GM D44 in your area. I've seen housings only for free in my neck of the woods.

I don't see that axle beeing any less work to SOA than a Scout housing, and argue that a GM housing is still the eaiest. But hey, use what you got.


Actually I wouldn't mind a couple of those axles myself... but for a couple of SUA projects. I usually can't find THOSE housings cheap in my area.... but then I won't pay more that $100 for a D44 unless I REALLY need it :D

Well someone find me a fullwith SOA chevy 44 for under 200. and.. i will.. i dont know.. Be somebody's bitch im sure..

Well someone find me a fullwith SOA chevy 44 for under 200. and.. i will.. i dont know.. Be somebody's bitch im sure..

Where Ya at? My local yard has em complete for $150. I know where there are several that guys have that they would let go for that $$$$ as well.

Southern AZ

Southern AZ

It wouldn't be worth the drive at today's gas prices, but that is what they go for around here. Good luck.

well i have 8 lug parts on the way. this opens many more doors for me

If you get flattops, I'll give ya a :smokin: deal on machining and HySteer

Damian, you are officially the devil on my shoulder, through and through.
Im working on finding a different front axle. Namely a 2 inch wider chevy. aith flat tops, and maybe SOA if its avail.

Damian, you are officially the devil on my shoulder, through and through.
Common, don't tell me you didn't see it comin' ~ I'd expect nothing less from a Tom. :evil:

I'm really surprised you can't find a GM D44 in your area. I've seen housings only for free in my neck of the woods.

I don't see that axle beeing any less work to SOA than a Scout housing, and argue that a GM housing is still the eaiest. But hey, use what you got.


Actually I wouldn't mind a couple of those axles myself... but for a couple of SUA projects. I usually can't find THOSE housings cheap in my area.... but then I won't pay more that $100 for a D44 unless I REALLY need it :D


Ditto - GM D44's are the easiest by far. And they can usually be had for dirt cheap around here as well. U-Pull it has them for $125.

Southern AZ

1975 Chevy 1/2 ton Dana 44 front 6 lug , 4.09 gear set , flat top passenger side knuckle .
Complete hub to hub with rotors and calipers .
I will even machine and tap the knuckle for you , after you dissemble it .
Can also make you hi steer arms or arm .

Let me know what you have to trade or cash .
Not interested in body parts .

^^^

Shit, can't get any better than that... and high-steer ready too (with the work he is offering to do)!!!



ahhh, they power of the internet :D :D

1975 Chevy 1/2 ton Dana 44 front 6 lug , 4.09 gear set , flat top passenger side knuckle .
Complete hub to hub with rotors and calipers .
I will even machine and tap the knuckle for you , after you dissemble it .
Can also make you hi steer arms or arm .

Let me know what you have to trade or cash .
Not interested in body parts .

Its full width, pass drop right?
marlin 1894 .44 magnum
1995 sea doo xp limited 800cc cracked block have it all. engine removed
buick 3.8 supercharged engine
2 scout 44's
jeep 44 front as in the one pictured here...
and of course. cash

Selling all four axles tomorrow.
buying a 14bolt 8lug 44 combo already geared ok.. pass side flat top

What some guys will do to keep from progressing ;)

Selling all four axles tomorrow.
buying a 14bolt 8lug 44 combo already geared ok.. pass side flat top


Did you pick up the ones on the Virtual Jeep site ?

WHAT A FING day!
work 630-1130am.. drive to casa grande. sell rifle.. drive to gilbert sell all4 axles.
drive across town to pick up some 36's for a buddy. back across town to get to greenway and 67th to part out the chevy for the axles. Ye I ahd to do it all. Guy ahd surgery and couldnt do much
it sucked. i had no plans on parting out chevy's today..in phoenix.. yah.. weird fing day..
atleast i got my shit taken care of

WHAT A FING day!
work 630-1130am.. drive to casa grande. sell rifle.. drive to gilbert sell all4 axles.
drive across town to pick up some 36's for a buddy. back across town to get to greenway and 67th to part out the chevy for the axles. Ye I ahd to do it all. Guy ahd surgery and couldnt do much
it sucked. i had no plans on parting out chevy's today..in phoenix.. yah.. weird fing day..
atleast i got my shit taken care of
Here.... maybe this will help:

http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/f3/40/kifmBBEquipNFBottlesEvenflo_Glass_Nurser.jpg

Did you pick up the ones on the Virtual Jeep site ?
been bought by muah!:flipoff2:

Your Welcome !!!!

Here.... maybe this will help:

http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/f3/40/kifmBBEquipNFBottlesEvenflo_Glass_Nurser.jpg
:laughing:

Your Welcome !!!!

Thankkkyooouuuu KC.
In all honesty I watch the VJC website, and saw those but dismissed the, as I already ahd axles, until I dun realized those were too much work.
So now I am
d44 SOA flat-top pass side, full width, 8 lug 4.10
14bolt FF, full width, 8lug, 4.10

Yessssss

Got tera-low? :grinpimp:



:evil:

*la-la-la-la* I cant hear you!

Glad your on.. I need some steering shit! I need a hysteer arm, and im guessing a spacer to clear my 44044's?? WIll my steering ratio get fawked unless i go for the long bonz arm?Shit actually i guess i need two arms, I will need the driver one too, since i have that tarded backwards chevy shit on there now.

Koo ~ call me tomorrow and we'll take care of you