Squirrelbait
03-31-2002, 07:45 PM
A buddy of mine, just bought a front 44 out of a waggy 1977,lookin to get some info on the front hub conversion as the rear is the amc corp 20 and wanted to replace the hub with something that is the same bolt pattern. What kind of hub would work in the 44 that has the 5 on 5 & 1/2.
Wanted to keep the flat tops they have now (for high steer correction) but does this have to be converted to a chev outer full assembly?
Any help is appreciated.....couldn't really get the info I was requestin on the search engine as it wasn't quite that specific..
Thanks !
TNScrambler
03-31-2002, 08:24 PM
you can keep the knuckles....not certain, but I believe that you will have to change the spindles though, check the current spindles, on 77-79 they should be the same as a 3/4 ton chevy spindle, if so you will have to change them out for halfton chevrolet spindles, then use the bearings, hubs and rotors for a late '70s ford halfton, the stock calipers and caliperbrakets will still work fine.
hope it helps,
Justin Ray
Gozuki
03-31-2002, 09:56 PM
( lifted entirely from cmegoup on the dana 44 6 to 5 lug post on this tech board)
Here's the recipe. You need '76or older Chevy Dana 44 spindles, calipers, and backing plates. Fullsize Jeep '74-76 Dana 44 spindles, calipers and backing plates are exactly the same as the mentioned Chevy parts and could be used in place of or mixed with Chevy stuff. Get Ford '76-92 wheel bearing hubs and rotors. The Ford wheel bearings are the right diameter to use with the Chevy/Jeep spindles. For lockouts buy your choice of brand to fit any Chevy/Ford/Jeep Dana 44. They're all the same.
This post which I found in about two minutes by searching on the words "five lug" lists this recipe:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/show...hlight=five+lug
:D I didn't even have to type!
Sundowner
04-01-2002, 04:36 AM
the spindle part numbers actually changed in early 1977, not in 76. I always tell people 76, too, because it elimitates any mix-ups. Check youlr spindles to see if they work. if the inner and outer bearings are different sizes from each other, then your spindles will work, if they are the same size, you need to do some junkyard hunting.
Trango
04-01-2002, 08:26 AM
Is there a reason why you can't just use the Ford spindles with the Ford hubs? The bearings all fit, and everything works, although I haven't tested the brakes. Is it just a different offset?
Bob
TNScrambler
04-01-2002, 08:33 AM
I believe that the reason you can't run the ford spindle is it bolts on with 5 studs and the jeep and chevrolet use 6 studs
The Rockslut
04-01-2002, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by TNScrambler
I believe that the reason you can't run the ford spindle is it bolts on with 5 studs and the jeep and chevrolet use 6 studs
Actually that is the problem on the front 60's
The 44's all have the 6 bolt pattern but Dodge and Ford clock the bolt pattern differently than Jeep/GM. You can redrill to correct the clocking issue though.
Originally posted by The Rockslut
Actually that is the problem on the front 60's
The 44's all have the 6 bolt pattern but Dodge and Ford clock the bolt pattern differently than Jeep/GM. You can redrill to correct the clocking issue though.
It's a problem with some 44's also. The early Bronco 44's have six bolt spindles and I've seem some early 90's Ford 44's with six bolt spindles. My old '89 Bronco had five bolt spindles and the '79 F150 that I pulled my hubs from had five bolt spindles also.
CJ-Jeeper
04-01-2002, 06:59 PM
If you have the 6 hole Ford spindles, they should work fine. I can't see how it could be "clocked". It is round & the hub just spins on it.:confused:
Trango
04-02-2002, 09:39 AM
Cool. I found an 83 bronco with 6 bolt spindles, since my 79 F150 front salvaged spindles are 5 bolt. The 6 bolt ones are bolt on to the chevy Flattops. Of course, the bronco uses cast in caliper mounts, so I'm using waggy mounts. :)
Bob