This weekend I found a reversing box that mates to a t98 (0ut of some industrial application) It gives you the ability to have 5 (assuming your reverse and 1st gearings are differrent) forward and 5 reverse gears, but that isnt all.....This got me to thinkin, If I used the reversing box, I could simply flip any D60 (or any axle for that matter) and make it high pinion!!!! I know that the R+P wouldnt be as strong this way, but wouldnt it be about the same as a RC d60?? So, whattya think???

Originally posted by Klasick68
This weekend I found a reversing box that mates to a t98 (0ut of some industrial application) It gives you the ability to have 5 (assuming your reverse and 1st gearings are differrent) forward and 5 reverse gears, but that isnt all.....This got me to thinkin, If I used the reversing box, I could simply flip any D60 (or any axle for that matter) and make it high pinion!!!! I know that the R+P wouldnt be as strong this way, but wouldnt it be about the same as a RC d60?? So, whattya think???

:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Klasick68
This weekend I found a reversing box that mates to a t98 (0ut of some industrial application) It gives you the ability to have 5 (assuming your reverse and 1st gearings are differrent) forward and 5 reverse gears, but that isnt all.....This got me to thinkin, If I used the reversing box, I could simply flip any D60 (or any axle for that matter) and make it high pinion!!!! I know that the R+P wouldnt be as strong this way, but wouldnt it be about the same as a RC d60?? So, whattya think???

they also aren't setup to oil upside down.

Originally posted by Klasick68
This weekend I found a reversing box that mates to a t98 (0ut of some industrial application) It gives you the ability to have 5 (assuming your reverse and 1st gearings are differrent) forward and 5 reverse gears, but that isnt all.....This got me to thinkin, If I used the reversing box, I could simply flip any D60 (or any axle for that matter) and make it high pinion!!!! I know that the R+P wouldnt be as strong this way, but wouldnt it be about the same as a RC d60?? So, whattya think???

Isn't this somewhere along the lines of "If my dog was as ugly as you I would shave his arse and make him walk backwards?"

:flipoff2:

Interesting, where does it mount? Front or rear? Does it have any reduction with it?

As for mounting the axles upside down, I don't see why you couldn't do it. Is it going to be slow speed trail only? If so, I don't think you'd even have to worry about oiling. Otherwise it might be a problem. You might examine your transfercase too. It might not like running backwards at high speeds.

The box mounts behind the trans, It may have built in reduction, but I am not sure. The idea was to run it in one of the willys parts trucks w/ whatever I could find for axles, no street use, so the oilin shouldnt be much of a deal. I'm thinkin that as long as it isnt run on the road, things should hold up well. This project is way down the list, just an idea i thought i'd post for the helluvit.
just a question though, for those of u who think it is a dumb idea, other than the oiling is there any issues that I missed?
thanks

for a rear axle this would work fine except for the oiling problem. but how do you flip the front axle? cut off the knuckles and weld them back on or?? yeah the ring gear will be weaker this way but no weaker than running a normal cut front axle.

just get a marine engine that turns the other direction and you wont need the reversing box.

I got one of those reverse rotation motors (marine 283 Chev), and was thinkin of doing just that, but I think turning the trans backwards wouldnt go over well, (I think It would work ok with streight cut gears in the trans). Now wouldnt that fawk someone's head up!!!"dat dangolthin iz turinin da wrong way!!!" As far as flipin the front, Yup, that is about what i was thinkin, grind and knock off the knuckles (gunn have to do that for the narrowing anyways) I think I will have to run a ford T case too, since the pot will be on the other side now, unless I want to rip the tubes out and switch em (have seen it done, but not sure how hard/ easy it is to do). any one have any ideas of any trans that is streight cut?? Or do I need streight cut gears to run shit backwards ?? This is all just ideas i'm throwin out ther for the helluvit, I was tryin to think of a solution to the oilin problem for High speed use (just for the helluvit) If I was to run a 1/2" tube from the lower (used to be upper ) part of the housing up to the pinion bearings, and run the oil level high, and get rid of the slinger on the pinion ( there is one on a 60 isnt there ??) that it may just live at high speeds. Another posable solution would be to slot the bottom of the housing out to the pinion bearings, and enclose this slot, connect it to the slot to the housing.... But that would do 2 bad things, 1: warp the housnig and make it useless (unless it was done w;' JB weld :rolleyes: ) THAT WAS A JOKE!!!!
2.) it would weaken the housing alot.

so, whattya think????

if you mount the axle upside down with the driveshaft rotating backwards, it is EXCACTLY the same as regular, no loss in streangth, however you do have the issue of oiling the pinion bearing, but you can get around that with an oil slinger.
i cant think of a problem with this idea except that it will be cheaper than a HP D60 and we cant have that now can we?

I found out some more info on the Reversing box, it comes out of a Petiebone (SP) the problems is the fawkers are like gold to junkyard owners, but.... another thing that is like gold is continental 6's (same as super hurricanes), so I think u could prob trade 1 for the other. Does anyone else out there know of another source for these boxes? Also, if anyone had a bit of time, they could probably build one, and it wouldnt even have to have direct, and reverse positions, if you didint want to have the multiple gears in reverse.

Originally posted by RHINO
if you mount the axle upside down with the driveshaft rotating backwards, it is EXCACTLY the same as regular, no loss in streangth, however you do have the issue of oiling the pinion bearing, but you can get around that with an oil slinger.
i cant think of a problem with this idea except that it will be cheaper than a HP D60 and we cant have that now can we?

Not in the rear it won't, flipping the diff over and running the driveshaft backwards is exactly like driving in reverse. A low pinion "pushes" on the ring gear and a high pinion pulls on it. (in the rear if you're going forwards) Doesn't matter if you're talking about reverse cut gearset or a flipped standard cut gearset. I do agree on the slinger though. Maybe you could make some scoops that attach to the ring gear bolts and throw oil up into the pinion.

Can you post some pics of the reversing box?

this sounds like a horrible idea. just my .02 :D

i'll work on gettin some pics of the box this weekend, hopefully someone will have a digital camera. It really doesnt look like much about 5"long, about the same size as the t98 in all othe demensions . Swamper502, why to u think it is a bad idea?? Just sounds too halfassed for ya?

yeah just nigger riggin at its best imo

If your gonna go to that much work, why not leave the axle the right direction, and put some hummer portals on the ends, sounds like a better use of a reversing box, than just to make a cheap and easy RC axle...

Chad