: Herculiner bedliner, how well does it work?
captain 04-01-2002, 11:48 AM I'm not sure if I am goin to rhino line my truck or just herculine it myself. Money is an issue and I know that rhino lining is better, but also more expensive. I know what the results from a rhino line job look like, but has anyone herculined their interior or bed and has it turned out well? pics would be great.:p
brector 04-01-2002, 11:56 AM Try the search button. It works. Really it does.
I will try to get a pic of my dad's truck bed that we Herculined about 3 years ago...
IMHO - if you have the $$$ get one of the various professionally done bedliner spray jobs...
brector 04-01-2002, 12:04 PM Mayhem did the interior of his heep and it turned out great. You might PM him for pics.
Toytank 04-01-2002, 02:38 PM I used it to do the inside of my tub on my Cruiser and it came
out good it has a rougher finish than the spray on factory
stuff but for $100.00 compared to the $600.00 or so it is well
worth it.
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Maybe the stuff words well in the interior with little use - but in a well-used truck bed the stuff SUCKS. Herculiner is NOT up to hard use in a truck bed, and you will start peeling and scraping it out every time you load something.
On the other hand - most high quality professional liners last MUCH better...
Tracknod 04-01-2002, 03:02 PM Here is a picture of my interior painted with Herc. It has held up really well considering there has been NO fading and it has been out in the elements for 5 months straight. The other good thing is that if I get a scratch in it, it is really easy to repair. On the other hand... If I was going to put line a Pickup bed, I would definatly use one of the various spray on liners. They hold up to rough abuse better. Check ebay for a guy selling a pro kit. A friend got this and it turned out really well. I wouldn't Rhino though... It fades really bad, from the trucks I have seen. Go with something like HotSpray, Lava Liner... yada yada
HTH
Maine Jeepah 04-01-2002, 03:31 PM I did the entire inside of the tub of my CJ7.
The stuff is not bulletproof by any means, but for sliding my tool box in and out every once in a while, and keeping my big feet from skuffing up the floor, its great.
I laid it on in multiple coats in the high traffic areas, and only one coat in others.
Only seems to "oxidize" in the areas exposed to light constantly.
Its like a light grey haze to it.
Powerwashing shines it up like new. ;)
SURFACE PREP IS KEY!!!
Follow all directions or you WILL regret it.
If I were going to do a hard used truck bed as the others said I'd go with something else.
Don't waste your time/money on the rattle can shite either...its not very thick.
For the money I say its worth it...if you have the coin and or are lazy get a pro job.
MJ
McSoo 04-01-2002, 04:02 PM I did the lower half of the exterior of my Pathfinder. The key to making Herculiner work well and look good is the prep work. If you want it to last, sand down whatever you are putting it on as far down as you can. That little POS 3M scratcher will not work. Throw it as far away from the box as possible. A little 5" orbital sander with 80 grit works really well though. I've got 3 coats on the outside of the Pathy and one coat on the floor boards. Oh, remember to shake up the can.
SwampTJ 04-01-2002, 04:45 PM Originally posted by DRM
Maybe the stuff words well in the interior with little use - but in a well-used truck bed the stuff SUCKS. Herculiner is NOT up to hard use in a truck bed, and you will start peeling and scraping it out every time you load something.
On the other hand - most high quality professional liners last MUCH better...
My dad wanted me to herc his truck after he saw my jeep. That stuff should not be used in the bed of trucks. 2 months after it was put in the back of the truck it looked like crap. Just like DRM said it's peels & scrapes everytime you load/unload something. You also get black crap all over your hands if you touch it. It's also getting scraped out of the back of my jeep where I carry tools & straps.
Land Crusher 04-01-2002, 05:45 PM could you use a under coating air sparay gun
to apply this stuff ?
how about if you sand blast the area first
think that would help ?
captain 04-01-2002, 06:25 PM thanks for the pics Tracknod. from what you guys have said, it sounds like it will hold up pretty well in my cj-7. it won't even see nearly as much use as a a pickup bed. this has been helpful.
Maine Jeepah 04-01-2002, 06:35 PM Yeah I don't know what kind of prep was involved on these truck beds that are scraping, and peeling or whatever, but I put 3 coats on my CJ's bed in quick succession, in humid conditions.
Came out pretty damn hard, and hasnt scratched or chipped.
Not as much use as a truck but I have thrown plenty of metal objects back there.
The bed of the CJ was sanded pretty well to make a nice bond.
Cleaned it with some nasty aircraft grade solvent and let that evaporate, and applied.
As I recall this stuff cures better in high humidity.
HTH
MJ
McSoo 04-01-2002, 06:38 PM Originally posted by Land Crusher
could you use a under coating air sparay gun
to apply this stuff ?
how about if you sand blast the area first
think that would help ?
Herculiner has actual tiny chunks of rubber in it so it might clog up a gun. Sand blasting would probably do wonders. I've never had a problem with my herculiner on the sides. Instead of trees scratching my paint, I drive through and when you look at it afterward, the trees look like they have been butchered with some 40 grit...
Hayraker 04-01-2002, 06:44 PM Napa and O'Reilly's sell a special gun to spray it, it doesn't cost very much, and if you buy several gallons they will throw it in. It is not herculiner, but some other brand, NOT duplicolor(sucks shit), I can't remember what the name is but you can order it in any color, a buddy of mine used white for the interior of his cj-7, and I ordered some olive drab for the exterior of the scout.
Paul Gagnon 04-01-2002, 07:21 PM Herculiner can make you famous. Just ask Gerald. :cow:
birfields 04-01-2002, 09:46 PM you can buy the morton bedliner at most paint stores. It comes in about 5 different colors. This stuff is really tough! I have the herculiner in the tub of my cruiser and wish i never bought it.
aaronlosey 04-01-2002, 09:51 PM man has been herculined for a few years now. all i can say is do your prep work first. if your doing the tub, take EVERYTHING out, every bolt, everything down to the bare, bare tub. also, for the love of god wear the gloves. i got a bunch of the junk on me, and it simply does not come off.
in short i like my herc alot, but it does eventually start coming up in super high traffic areas like under my gass foot. its easy to touch up.
FYRMAN 04-01-2002, 11:56 PM Originally posted by Paul Gagnon
Herculiner can make you famous. Just ask Gerald. :cow:
I knew someone would bring up Gerald's Hootus.:D
lol - I figured "prep" would come up when I and others mentioned it was peeling.
Sorry to disappoint you - but there was NO WAY to prep the bed any better. It was practically a brand new truck bed, and we use whatever chemical the recommended to clean the surface, then we wire brushed, scored, scratched, and anythign else we could come up with to prep the surface like they said to. We then cleaned the surface 2 more times.
Maybe it works well for low-use areas like the interior of a Jeep or FJ - but for a truck bed that get ABUSED (like a truck bed should) there is just no substitute for the professional Bedliner spray jobs...
I recomend duplicolor. I got mine for 29.99 for a gallon plus it came with a bruch/ roller kit. I rolled it on the inside fo my Toyota. My brother has Herculiner on his CJ5 inside and they look about the same. I have not put much use on mine but neither has he really. They both seem tough, hard and not easily chippable. I put three coats on and when I jabbed a screwdriver at mine it just bounced off.
On the other hand, my line X in my Tacoma bed is starting to chip some. So is my brothers Herculiner.
For my money, considering this is somehting that is gonna get torn up unless you get the profesional 350 dollar job, might as well go CHEAP as DIRT! Then if it does chip Ill only have 30 bucks into it. I can redo mine 3 times for the cost of one stab at it with herculiner. Not to mention a profesional spray in!
(I agree that profesional spray in for truck BEDS is the best way to go, but NOT Rhino, agreed it fades, but then again Line X chips...so who knows.)
This is advice from someone who has had 3 different kinds, Rhino, Line X, and Duplicolor, and has firsthand (brother) experience with Herculiner.
BTW - I have done a bed with Duplicolor as well - and prep is key there. For some reason the bed floor has held up wonderfully, but the bed sides have started peeling off. I have a theory it has to do with the primer on the sidewalls of the bed, but who knows.
FYI - Duplicolor is more of a hard plastic type surface, where Herc is more like a rubberized undercoating surface.
I did my K5 in red outside, black inside. The red faded quickly and stained easily. The stuff was a bitch to clean. I'ts tough though, I dented it a couple of times against rocks and stumps and when I poped it back out it did not crack.
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/nepatten/lst?.dir=/Project+K5&.view=t
Grim Reaper 04-02-2002, 10:27 AM A BIG gain on bed liners on tubs is knocking down some of the heat. You can't get the DIY stuff thick enough to do much good. I have bare metal floors in my truck and a bud has a Rhino lined truck and the amount of heat it knocks down in awsome.
As for the prep....Regular car finishes from the factory is best. My bud had rattle canned his tail gate (Blazer) the guy flat out told him that it was going to peal because of the chemicals in rattle can paint and the Rhino don't get along. Rest of the truck has held up excelent but it is pealing on the gate like the guy said it would. Most of the decent places will ask you to wait a few months on new paint (as in new vehicle) to make sure the paint is fully cured. THis is so they can be sure to get it to stick.
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