I’m running a 77CJ with full width 74 Ford High Pinion Dana 44 with SOA on HD CJ springs (Read 2” lift). Moved the axle about 4” forward.

First the idea.

http://www.addingcolor.org/features/cars/mr_n/SRSme.gif

Pic of welding them http://www.addingcolor.org/features/cars/mr_n/77%20yellow%20frame%20welding%20SRS.jpg

On the Jeep
http://littlekeylime.com/MrN/mrnimages/jeepfrontframe.jpg

One More a little closer
http://www.addingcolor.org/features/cars/mr_n/YellowSRSPic.jpg

I hate to ask, but before I run them.

Anyone see any flaws in my set up?

You mean besides dragging them over rocks?

I personally think they hang down to low, Your approch angles will be all screwed up

Do a search, theres lots of pages on this topic.

http://www.wheelingpiazzas.com/pictures/Outboard%20springs/57038397.jpg

http://www.wheelingpiazzas.com/pictures/Outboard%20springs/52362086.jpg

I think they look remarkably like the MORE bolt on kit that I've got in my garage.

However, I kinda agree with Steve.

run longer springs and redrill the main leaf to relocat e the frons axle even further forward.

Doing this will help out the approach angle issue that Piazza mentioned.
You will need to move the steering box forward too.

Steve, Mo...

Look at the guys plates He's in Florida.
They aint got no rocks in Florida.

Just mud, gators, and them damn sharks in the shallow waters

Looks similar to mine

http://ajax.extremejeep.com/rocktoad/toadsrev.jpg

Originally posted by Monkeyboy
Steve, Mo...

Look at the guys plates He's in Florida.
They aint got no rocks in Florida.

Just mud, gators, and them damn sharks in the shallow waters I'm in Minnesota, we do have rocks. Plate is from when I recieved a Job offer in Florida, but didn't happen

Originally posted by WheelingPiazza
You mean besides dragging them over rocks?

I personally think they hang down to low, Your approch angles will be all screwed up Yeah, that's my thought. I think I'll try them as is, can always drill the hole higher and remove some flat plate.

What about a cross brace? think the C channel wwill hold?

Thanks for your help guys (yes I did search but these are a little different. )

Originally posted by Mr.N
I'm in Minnesota, we do have rocks.

Not many:flipoff2:

No wif you run out to Dakota those will soank some rocks:D YOu can always change it up, though...

Originally posted by Mr.N

Pic of welding them http://www.addingcolor.org/features/cars/mr_n/77%20yellow%20frame%20welding%20SRS.jpg


think you can teach me how to weld upside down like that?

:D


i think you have great ideas though! -russel

Originally posted by Monkeyboy
Looks similar to mine

http://ajax.extremejeep.com/rocktoad/toadsrev.jpg

monkeyboy needs some gussets:eek:

Do you have any pics of the other end of the spring? the shackle end, in the center of the Jeep.

Has any one seen a shackle reversal with out board-frame hangers and buggy springs? like the MORE kit.

squirril

Originally posted by squirriljeep
Do you have any pics of the other end of the spring? the shackle end, in the center of the Jeep.

Has any one seen a shackle reversal with out board-frame hangers and buggy springs? like the MORE kit.Funny you should mention that. If you look closely you see I haven't installed the shackle end in those pics.
I'm planning on just that, a small 3/4 eleptical for the front.
I figure a solid frame mount around the motor mount area. I'll post pics when I get it mocked up.

Minnesota has Rocks! Just have to look for them for a while.

High5 Yep I need some gussets. That pic was taken right after I threw my junk together to move to my new house. Got moved in ad now it's all back down to the frame rails :D

Squirrel yes I have seen an out boarded M.O.R.E shackle reversal and buggy spring kit. I was a dumb ass and bought the kit before I realized I could make all that kind of crap myself.

So whats a guy do... He takes the parts from the kit he can use and he adapts the kit outboard the frame rails to make it work with my Cherokee Chief dana 44 :D
Then my fab skills improved again and then I decided that I could make the outboars buggy leaf part way better then I had originally done. working on that at the moment along with my cross member.

Originally posted by Mr.N
On the Jeep
http://littlekeylime.com/MrN/mrnimages/jeepfrontframe.jpg

I think it looks pretty good. I would probably run a tube brace between the two mounts less than an inch from the top of the bolt or gussets that go to the bottom of the inside of the mount up to the c channel you installed. I am not trying to be overly critical but are you using a 120v wirefeed on that frame? If it is an arc welder than turn it up to 135a or buy some dry fresh rod. I may be way off here but the welds look strange to me. Sorry if I am wrong on the welder comment, and I like the design.

Damn woman didnt log off. I am Wheelinjp so you know

Not to dog on your junk or anything but those look like they're going to be catching rocks. I like your design but I'd make them shorter (closer to the frame). :beer: that's what fabing your own stuff is all about!

Originally posted by wheelinjp


I think it looks pretty good. I would probably run a tube brace between the two mounts less than an inch from the top of the bolt or gussets that go to the bottom of the inside of the mount up to the c channel you installed. I am not trying to be overly critical but are you using a 120v wirefeed on that frame? If it is an arc welder than turn it up to 135a or buy some dry fresh rod. I may be way off here but the welds look strange to me. Sorry if I am wrong on the welder comment, and I like the design.Nice catch, I believe your right that I need a gusset at the location your talk about. I did have it planned in the drawing, just didn't do it yet.

Used a HUGE arc welder. Ground the thick plate in a ways on the edges, chamfered. What your looking at is the third or forth pass on the front. I was lucky enough to have a professional welder help me, with new rods.
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Originally posted by Peabody
Not to dog on your junk or anything but those look like they're going to be catching rocks. I like your design but I'd make them shorter (closer to the frame). :beer: that's what fabing your own stuff is all about! Yeah, but at least I've enough metal to trim and re-locate the holes.

Thanks for the input guys.