You know... I know this post will get deleted... but right now I dont care!

Shane and I ordered 2 Marlin Crawler setups on Dect 7th. And every single week its been a different excuse. He has used so many excuses that he has started using some old excuses. Hmmm... lets see...

1. Very Busy
2. Waiting on 4.7 gears (blaming the vendor)
3. Still busy
4. Had an employee quit
5. Stull busy
6. Needs to write Tacoma install instructions (this took 4 weeks)
7. Yep... Still busy
8. Somebody hurt their hand or somethign? (Hope he is alright!)
9. Busy yet again
10. Now he is waiting on bolts (once again blaming the vendor)
11. Very Very Busy!

These are just some of the excuses that Shane and I have recieved when we call! 15 or 16 weeks of different excuses. On several occasions we have been told that the crawlers will ship out next week. And he would give us the tracking number after they shipped. But.. then another excuse pops up.

Any tips on getting the parts we ordered. Should I just show up at his doorstep and ask for them?

Im tired of people always coming to Marlins defense and creating more excuses for him. The plain simple truth is his service sucks. I know some of his excuses are honest mishaps and are out of his control. But geeze.... ship the stuff out already. If he cant get people their parts for 6 months like some people talk about. Then he needs to step up and be a man and admit that. Not lie to people and tell them their order will be shipped out next week for 4 months.

:mad3: :mad3: :mad3: :mad3: :mad3: :mad3: :mad3: :mad3:

And I seem to recall others stopping by since the first of the year and getting their parts... Didn't Brandon pick up a pile of the 4.7 gear sets for himself and some buddies?

If you guys orderd stuff back in December - and others got them before you and they ordered afterwards, that is just plain wrong.....

well if you cant wait for him try Inchworm.

Originally posted by DRM
And I seem to recall others stopping by since the first of the year and getting their parts... Didn't Brandon pick up a pile of the 4.7 gear sets for himself and some buddies?

If you guys orderd stuff back in December - and others got them before you and they ordered afterwards, that is just plain wrong.....

Yup, that's how he works, if U drop by U can buy others peoples orders! Should have read my posting on him for the last 4 years, I have been saying this, your fault u ordered from him, sorry. stop payment if u payed ask for your $$ back or if visa ect, talk to them.

inchworms just up the road in walnut creek!!

The Marlin Sheeple should be replying any minute now.... I know you are dying to post.... saying how GREAT he is :laughing:

Come on Marlin - 16 weeks of excuses? Just tell it straight up, I think most people would be ok with that!

nobody listens to camo :D

Originally posted by DRM
The Marlin Sheeple should be replying any minute now.... I know you are dying to post.... saying how GREAT he is :laughing:

Come on Marlin - 16 weeks of excuses? Just tell it straight up, I think most people would be ok with that!

Thats what Im saying... he should just be upfront about it and tell his customers that he is very very slow, and their order will take 6 months to deliver.

But everytime we get done talking to him... he makes it sound like we will get our order next week! Like I said before... I got one word for that... LIAR!

And as for going somewhere else... I dont know of anybody else who makes a dual Tcase setup for the Tacoma. So I guess I continue to wait.

Yogi

Originally posted by camo
nobody listens to camo :D

baaahhhahahahahah :D:D:D:D

Originally posted by mossberg
well if you cant wait for him try Inchworm.
Sure could if Inchworm made adapters for a Tacoma dual setup :flipoff2: I have a friend going the the same BS week after week! Sounds like the same excuses Yogi is gettting. I think it's ridiculous personally and wish some larger companies like AA, etc. would step up and they'd make a ton of cash! Hell over on TTORA there is a Tacoma SAS happening at least every month, and most would like to do a dual case setup to avoid have d-shafts done twice.

Originally posted by mossberg
well if you cant wait for him try Inchworm.

Unfortunately Marlin is they only one with the Tacoma adapters, if he really even has them. Or, maybe it was just that one for that Norcal guy.

Originally posted by camo
nobody listens to camo :D

What was that, did you say somthing ????????.............camo I didn't hear ya.

Call him up. Tell him you wan't to come get it on ?? Apr 02. Listen to reponse! It worked for me on my Ultimate!!

I won't be accused of being sheeple, everytime I had a deadline for a run, I was able to get it from Marlin. Then again, I've always lived within 350 miles of Marlin.

Originally posted by DRM
And I seem to recall others stopping by since the first of the year and getting their parts... Didn't Brandon pick up a pile of the 4.7 gear sets for himself and some buddies?

If you guys orderd stuff back in December - and others got them before you and they ordered afterwards, that is just plain wrong.....


Yep I recall hearing that somewhere also! I guess if you want your shit you have to show up at his doorstep and take someone else's order! That's just plain wrong! :mad3: Where in Cali is Marlin?

Originally posted by CrashLL



Yep I recall hearing that somewhere also! I guess if you want your shit you have to show up at his doorstep and take someone else's order! That's just plain wrong! :mad3: Where in Cali is Marlin? Fresno. Take 99N, 41N, 180 cutoff, head north, 1st offramp, left at the light, first right at next light, look right

Originally posted by yogiaz
The plain simple truth is his service sucks. I have known this for five years, but I always got the product in the end!!!! At this point in time he is the only player in the Taco game.

Originally posted by Todd
Fresno. Take 99N, 41N, 180 cutoff, head north, 1st offramp, left at the light, first right at next light, look right

That's only a 10 hour drive from Phoenix!:eek: Think he will pay for gas?:flipoff2:

Same here man....I have been getin the same run around since before xmas....he tells me ha has the adapter plates for the I4 Taco but is waitin on some b.s. from his machinist? Uh huh...for the last 4 months? :rolleyes: Believe me when I tell you if I could go somewhere else I would in a heartbeat..... Im about ready to say screw it and go another route.... ALOT of people are waiting for him to get off his ass and get this Taco shit together... Makes me wanna go into business for myself making dual case adapters for Toyotas.... Marlin...this is me --------> :mad: :mad3: :mad:

this seems to be an on going problem, get a bigger shop and higher more people.


I know a guy here that is awaiting 20 dualcases from marlin, i hate to think how long it is going to take him to get them, and he is the distributor.



NICK

Originally posted by CrashLL


That's only a 10 hour drive from Phoenix!:eek: Think he will pay for gas?:flipoff2:

I think Im ready for the road trip! But I dont know if I can trust that he wil have it there. I can see it now!

(on the phone) Yes.... your crawler is sitting here ready for you to pick it up.

(when I get there in person) Im sorry Ronn..... last night a robber came in and stold about 120 of my dual case crawler setups. He loaded them into a truck. The cops where chasing him when a Tornado touched down and swept him off into the distance. The coast gaurd later found the truck and the robber floating in the pacific off the shore of Hawaii. They were able to save the robber but the truck sank to the bottom of the sea. So I will have to assemble some more and ship it out to you next week!

Yogi

Originally posted by yogiaz


I think Im ready for the road trip! But I dont know if I can trust that he wil have it there. I can see it now!

(on the phone) Yes.... your crawler is sitting here ready for you to pick it up.

(when I get there in person) Im sorry Ronn..... last night a robber came in and stold about 120 of my dual case crawler setups. He loaded them into a truck. The cops where chasing him when a Tornado touched down and swept him off into the distance. The coast gaurd later found the truck and the robber floating in the pacific off the shore of Hawaii. They were able to save the robber but the truck sank to the bottom of the sea. So I will have to assemble some more and ship it out to you next week!

Yogi

ROTFLMAO! :beer:

Originally posted by yogiaz


I think Im ready for the road trip! But I dont know if I can trust that he wil have it there. I can see it now!

(on the phone) Yes.... your crawler is sitting here ready for you to pick it up.

(when I get there in person) Im sorry Ronn..... last night a robber came in and stold about 120 of my dual case crawler setups. He loaded them into a truck. The cops where chasing him when a Tornado touched down and swept him off into the distance. The coast gaurd later found the truck and the robber floating in the pacific off the shore of Hawaii. They were able to save the robber but the truck sank to the bottom of the sea. So I will have to assemble some more and ship it out to you next week!

Yogi :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Originally posted by yogiaz


I think Im ready for the road trip! But I dont know if I can trust that he wil have it there. I can see it now!

(on the phone) Yes.... your crawler is sitting here ready for you to pick it up.

(when I get there in person) Im sorry Ronn..... last night a robber came in and stold about 120 of my dual case crawler setups. He loaded them into a truck. The cops where chasing him when a Tornado touched down and swept him off into the distance. The coast gaurd later found the truck and the robber floating in the pacific off the shore of Hawaii. They were able to save the robber but the truck sank to the bottom of the sea. So I will have to assemble some more and ship it out to you next week!

Yogi

ROTFLMAO or we would get the #6. Needs to write Tacoma install instructions so I can't give it to you yet excuse! If we can do a SAS on a Taco I think we can figure out how to install a crawler in one also without instructions!

Originally posted by CrashLL


That's only a 10 hour drive from Phoenix!:eek: Think he will pay for gas?:flipoff2: No, how much is shipping????

Originally posted by yogiaz


I think Im ready for the road trip! But I dont know if I can trust that he wil have it there. I can see it now!

(on the phone) Yes.... your crawler is sitting here ready for you to pick it up.

(when I get there in person) Im sorry Ronn..... last night a robber came in and stold about 120 of my dual case crawler setups. He loaded them into a truck. The cops where chasing him when a Tornado touched down and swept him off into the distance. The coast gaurd later found the truck and the robber floating in the pacific off the shore of Hawaii. They were able to save the robber but the truck sank to the bottom of the sea. So I will have to assemble some more and ship it out to you next week!

Yogi Don't know, I was just stating my experience :D:D:D:D.

Sorry to hear that Todd.... Thats probably the main reason that I went to Advanced Adapters because I didn't wanna hafta' put up wid tha bullshiat.........:trooper:

I just spent easter at marlins:D.No really,got there 7:15 Sat morn for a one day hysteer install,left sunday nite at 8:15pm!!!Granted,we did go back to his house at 9pm sat nite,but...His shop is sooo disorganized,i don't know how he ships anything out!!I called about 6 times in 3 months to confirm/remind/order parts,when i got there,ONE set of Billit arms,and no Marlinks!!I'm rippin the truck apart,and he's building a tranny for a guy that never showed!!Well,bottom line is,we got it done,and done right i hope(2 days,better fawkin work:D:D),and I understand others frustration with him,he could be a little more up front w/people.Try to understand also though,he's frustrated w/himself as well,having to be there 7 days a week.If you call him for a tranny or something,don't get him started on bench versus bucketversus carbed/efi...He'll lose track of time and you wont remember any of it anyhow.

and Seabass,it's YOU,not U,thats how the artist formerlly known as Prince says it...wait a minute-purple truck...:flipoff2:

Originally posted by fourlofirst
.............

and Seabass,it's YOU,not U,thats how the artist formerlly known as Prince says it...wait a minute-purple truck...:flipoff2:

He he,lol, that's a good 1[one] lol I can't spell to well, getting better cause of the internet;) but I use U & R like a internet shorthand:D Do U know what I mean or R U confused:confused: lol:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

So i don't have prob w/U using U&R:flipoff2:
I noticed it alooong time ago,just finally mentioned it...
and i don't know all those cool little anacronyms for the net...

I ordered my V6 dual/ultimate the first week of December also. It arrived last week. I went through this several years ago with a single 4.7 case so I was somewhat prepared. The guy needs a business partner that understands business. He is an artist but then most artists are crazy and die broke.

Wow, I thought everyone thought Marlin was the shi!t. This makes it easier to buy an Advance Adapter dual kit from Allpro.

i just dealt with marlin for the first time. took about 4 weeks got it sent to me COD. i payed when it showed up at my door. i knew it would take a while so i orderd early. got it about a 2 weeks ago now i have 225:1. you orderd in december? sucks to be you. :flipoff2:

Need some advice on what to do.
This is JUSTMYLUCK AGAIN!
I need the V6 adapter and just got of the phone with Marlin yesterday. He says he has'em in stock and ready to ship. I'm gonna pay with a m/order and already have the damn thing ready to go in the mail....(altough I didn't sign it yet with Marlins name!).

So what should I do??
I'm thinking of calling inchworm. I've emailed him a few times and he seems like a stand up guy.

INCHWORM??

Thanx Tom

Originally posted by justmyluck
Need some advice on what to do.
This is JUSTMYLUCK AGAIN!
I need the V6 adapter and just got of the phone with Marlin yesterday. He says he has'em in stock and ready to ship. I'm gonna pay with a m/order and already have the damn thing ready to go in the mail....(altough I didn't sign it yet with Marlins name!).

So what should I do??
I'm thinking of calling inchworm. I've emailed him a few times and he seems like a stand up guy.

INCHWORM??

Thanx Tom

If I were you and and someone else had the adapter I wanted...I would go with someone else besides Marlin.......

Originally posted by chartdog
The guy needs a business partner that understands business. He is an artist but then most artists are crazy and die broke.
I agree 120%. Something has to change if he wants to keep introducing all these great items with little to no help.

Originally posted by camo
nobody listens to camo :D

Well your just .................................. so :rainbow:

4 months on a rebuilt tranny for me. Got a different excuse every time I called.

From what I understand, all he needs is a somewhat knowledgable secretarty to take the calls!

Originally posted by justmyluck

I need the V6 adapter and just got of the phone with Marlin yesterday. He says he has'em in stock and ready to ship. I'm gonna pay with a m/order and already have the damn thing ready to go in the mail....(altough I didn't sign it yet with Marlins name!).




If you "officially" placed an order with Marlin, at least call to cancel the order before you go to another vendor.

If not, go for it. :D

Flat Taco and Yogi...
Just sent my old T-case over w/ Mike Ross to be dropped off at Inchworm....

so another mfg. for Tacoma dual cases is in the works.
May be a few months for R&D and testing still.

Originally posted by snowchucker
Flat Taco and Yogi...
Just sent my old T-case over w/ Mike Ross to be dropped off at Inchworm....

so another mfg. for Tacoma dual cases is in the works.
May be a few months for R&D and testing still.

Oh thank you LORD! Finally, I knew someone would want to take advantage of Marlins POOR business practices! Are they gonna offer it for us 4 banger Taco`s aswell? Im callin Marlin today and cancelling my "order"... :D Marlin is gonna loose his shirt on this one... :D

Still at a few months of R&D they will be WAY ahead of Marlins "schedule"... :rolleyes:

Thanks for the good news.... ;)

last time I called it sounded like he DID get a business partner - anyone know anything about this? I won't stand up for his reliability - simply cause he overextends himself. While your getting screwed he is bending over backwards for someone else. I did call a week ago and got some new guy that sounded like a "business partner" to me - sounds like people have been there since then - did ya meet this guy?

I wonder if this will turn things around..

Simply put he takes too much business and in turn can't finish half of that because he is on the phone with people. When I was there he was turning people down - sucks for them but that is what he needs to do atleast till he is all caught up!

He is a great guy, but for the first time I ordered elsewhere for something I could have gotten from him - my draglink and tie rod. Big Mike is a big help but also a big flake (I am still waiting to talk to you Mike, bout the directions we were gonna work out months ago) - I dunno what else to say - but good luck Marlin...

Originally posted by Brandon
simply cause he overextends himself. While your getting screwed he is bending over backwards for someone else.

pretty much sums it up.

Marlin has been very upfront with me. More so than he really needed to be. I've have read all the other marlin posts and I knew that ordering from him was going to take a while. So I placed my order "early" (december). However, as far as I am concerned, the tacoma orders are just sitting in his shop collecting dust. I'm not basing that assumption entirely on my frustrations, but on conversations I have had with Marlin. Many times Marlin has told me that he is the only one that knows what to do with the tacoma orders, and until he makes it a priority, they won't get done. "I just need to make it a priority" has become a mantra for him. So in the meantime other customers are ordering the new 4.70:1 gearsets (which he brags about selling 100+ sets on his website) and new billet steering arms and getting them within a week of placing the order, while my order gets ignored (no offense to those that are gettin gears, etc., more power to ya)....

I sent an email to Jim over at Inchworm and he said that he just got a tacoma tcase (must be the one that showchucker sent over) and to check back with him in a couple months.

shane

When I first got my 85 runner, the tcase was in need of repair. Since it needed some new gears and such, I wanted to install the 4.7's while I had it out... I called Marlin (cause I had heard all these good things about him):rolleyes:. He told me his gear cutter was fubar and he couldn't get gears for 5 months or so. :eek: So, I asked about going the dual case route. I tried to be as polite as possible on the phone but he just acted like he wasn't interested in my business at all. In fact, he was quite rude.

So, screw him, I called Jack O'Brien over in Roseville. He was very cordial and talkative and he had 4.1's in stock. I took my tcase over to him the very next day and he had it all done by the end of the week. Jack is a retired engineer from McClellan AFB. He knows his stuff and loves to talk. I don't know if he's doing anything with Tacoma's but here's his phone number...

916-773-3278

Just to be fair, Jack was a total ASS when I talked to him, which is why I went with marlin. If JPeater was sold by it's originater I may have bought from him (Chris Collard). Jack did nothing but rip Marlin, and I have heard that from many people since. Marlin didn't do that, he simply showed me what he had to offer and said Jack had a good product plain n simple but both are plenty strong.

but anyone can be an ass if you catch em on the wrong day I guess

Originally posted by justmyluck
Need some advice on what to do.
This is JUSTMYLUCK AGAIN!
I need the V6 adapter and just got of the phone with Marlin yesterday. He says he has'em in stock and ready to ship. I'm gonna pay with a m/order and already have the damn thing ready to go in the mail....(altough I didn't sign it yet with Marlins name!).

So what should I do??
I'm thinking of calling inchworm. I've emailed him a few times and he seems like a stand up guy.

INCHWORM??

Thanx Tom

Go with InchWorm, nuff said!

Originally posted by Brandon
Just to be fair, Jack was a total ASS when I talked to him, which is why I went with marlin. If JPeater was sold by it's originater I may have bought from him (Chris Collard). Jack did nothing but rip Marlin, and I have heard that from many people since. Marlin didn't do that, he simply showed me what he had to offer and said Jack had a good product plain n simple but both are plenty strong.

but anyone can be an ass if you catch em on the wrong day I guess

No U R right B, my buddy called Jack and he was an ass too, he did nothing but rip on Marlin, and I don't like that either in a vendor.

Originally posted by Brandon
Just to be fair, Jack was a total ASS when I talked to him, which is why I went with marlin. If JPeater was sold by it's originater I may have bought from him (Chris Collard). Jack did nothing but rip Marlin, and I have heard that from many people since. Marlin didn't do that, he simply showed me what he had to offer and said Jack had a good product plain n simple but both are plenty strong.

but anyone can be an ass if you catch em on the wrong day I guess Ditto all the way including the part about Chris, but Jack also told me that he designed the JP Eater, not Chris.

I am sure he did - based on Chris' idea

To be fair again, heard NOTHING bad about inchworm, never met him in person but seems like a good guy from what I have heard. Nuttin bad to say bout inchworm!

Originally posted by Glenn
When I first got my 85 runner, the tcase was in need of repair. Since it needed some new gears and such, I wanted to install the 4.7's while I had it out... I called Marlin (cause I had heard all these good things about him):rolleyes:. He told me his gear cutter was fubar and he couldn't get gears for 5 months or so. :eek: So, I asked about going the dual case route. I tried to be as polite as possible on the phone but he just acted like he wasn't interested in my business at all. In fact, he was quite rude.

So, screw him, I called Jack O'Brien over in Roseville. He was very cordial and talkative and he had 4.1's in stock. I took my tcase over to him the very next day and he had it all done by the end of the week. Jack is a retired engineer from McClellan AFB. He knows his stuff and loves to talk. I don't know if he's doing anything with Tacoma's but here's his phone number...

916-773-3278

I heard that Jack also has 4.7's. I'd give him a call.

are jacks the AA gears?

I think there are only 3 gears, the AA, marlins new ones, and the canada or australia ones (I forget who it was but there is one other)

Bunch of people sell the AA and we know they work..

ALTHOUGH camo did grenade a set ;) (saw that last time I was down there, if I remember correctly you had a post praising him for how he took care of ya for it too)

NOBODY has grenaded his new ones :flipoff2:

Originally posted by camo
are jacks the AA gears?

Yes, I think they are. From what I know he sells their (AA) 4.1's and 4.7's.

Originally posted by Brandon
I...............

ALTHOUGH camo did grenade a set ;) ...........:

Who knows how Camo does it:rolleyes: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: I think he could bend a crow bar in a sand box!;) :p :p :p

yup i am the only person to actually break a 4:7 gear. i don't see any changes in the new design that would have kept the new gear from breaking the way it did. even the new gear would have failed in my opinion.


yes to marlins gredit he buit me a new dual ultimate t case and delivered in in one week at a time when he supposedly didn't have any gears in stock and other were waiting months for gears.


you hit the nail on the head earler. i was getting first class service while others were getting screwed.


flip side of the coin is i have also waited months for parts from him

Originally posted by SeaBass44


Go with InchWorm, nuff said!

TOO LATE!!

My wife signed it and put it in the mail before I got'a hold of her..

SOWISHMELUCK!!!
I hope.

I'll let ya know when or what I get outta this.
Parts or a big freakin' headache.

Just buy from someone else, every vendor has issues, we are a minority market (rock crawlers), if you want better service buy a full size ifs mall crawler, everyone wants your business and will kiss your butt. Good luck :)

Damn, this post is making me realize just how good of luck I've had with Marlin. Last summer When I started my SAS I wanted to do dual cases at the same time. Everyone told me I would have a long wait, but Marlin had the adapter with the reduction portion of another case to me in under two weeks. But due to unforeseen costs at school I was forced to send it back. Marlin gave me a full refund on it. A month or two ago I ordered a dual case setup with the 4.7 gears. It was a little late, but it still arrived in under 4 weeks.

Now granted these parts are not for a Taco, so I can't really compare my situation to some of the othes who have posted. If I was having as much trouble as some of you, I would definitely go with another manufacturer.

After reading all these post ripping Marlin, I must have been really lucky. I ordered mine Feb 28 and got the adapter two weeks later and installed. Sorry to hear that his business is really getting ripped on. OH WELL. GOT MINE!!:D

Originally posted by Brandon
last time I called it sounded like he DID get a business partner - anyone know anything about this?

I talked to a guy named Ron on Thursday of last week, and he claimed Marlin had hired himself and a guy named Dan to turn the business around. I'd been waiting since January for a 23 spline MC07 and had gotten a different story every time I talked to Marlin. Allegedly, and I do mean *allegedly*, my crawl box shipped on Friday. If that's true, I should see it tomorrow. If not, I guess I'll be making another call...

Mark

I just got off the phone with Marlin Crawler, and there is a new guy straightening out the buisness side things. He seems to be getting things in order and is putting order numbers on everything based on when they were placed (older orders getting top priority). I know for may disgruntled people out there it may be too little too late, but it does look like he has someone who understands buisness to run the buisness and let Marlin do the actual work.... I am sure it is a chore to straighten everything out, but it appears to be happening... You may want to give the new guy a call...:beer:

Well, I for one wish Marlin the best of luck. He needs someone to organize that place. We'll see!

Another plug for Jim@Inchworm. Received my 4.7 case last Friday after nearly no wait. So what if they are AA gears? They work just fine! And he blew Marlin's price away.

Originally posted by justmyluck
Need some advice on what to do.
This is JUSTMYLUCK AGAIN!
I need the V6 adapter and just got of the phone with Marlin yesterday. He says he has'em in stock and ready to ship. I'm gonna pay with a m/order and already have the damn thing ready to go in the mail....(altough I didn't sign it yet with Marlins name!).

So what should I do??
I'm thinking of calling inchworm. I've emailed him a few times and he seems like a stand up guy.

INCHWORM??

Thanx Tom

GO INCHWORM !!!

This is exactly why I bought my 4.7's from all pro.... they were at my door in three days after I ordered all the way to vancouver canada!! ... These horror stories of marlin make me wonder how he keeps customer and how people say his customer service is great! WTF is up with that:confused:

I just hope they guys don't SCREW marlin.. :rolleyes:

Inchworm had my 4.7s and 23 spline double case all ready to bolt in just as promised! :beer:s for Jim!

I bought 4.7's and high steer from him last year, MC07 adpt. this year and they were delivered within 48 hours every time. I guess I was just lucky. I've called and talked to Marlin several times and he helped me when nobody else would. I'll give Marlin my business in the future every time...:usa:

I do understand were some of you guys are coming from. Marlin doesn't know shit about how to run a shop all he knows is that he is marlin crawler and that there is a lot of people that want his stuff, so thats what he does he tries to get them there parts and forgets thats he already has 500 other customers waiting for there shit. It's not the money he's after, if it was he would of closed shop a long time ago. In the mean time he's back and forth in the shop trying to find out were his head is and coaching his guys and seeing that his product is top notch before it goess out. Its not like he's trying to piss all of us off in fact he's TRYING to do the the opposite he's the only guy that i know that works 7 days a week 16 hours a day (well that's not working for him either). I have asked marlin to shut down the shop for a week or two so that he can catch up, well he says he would like to do that but he's scared to piss off any more people. Well with all of this said we basicaly have two option's we can say fuck marlin crawler (which would be pretty sad since he has basicaly dedicated his life to us)Or we can all come together like REAL MEN and figure out a way to help the guy.
Yes, marlin does have a new guy working for him he was the parts manager for toyota some shop in the frezno area. I was there on monday and it seems to me like he knows what he's doing. the office is starting to get orginized work orders and such.
I know there's a lot pissed off people but come on the guy is doing every thing he can. he's not trying to piss us off.

I've always had good customer service from Marlin. If you want to know the lengths he'll go to for a customer, PM me and I'll let ya know.

Go with InchWorm, nuff said! hey seebass it is hard to make you realize how i want to beat you sencesless but i can't, i also like the pbb too. i worked on the first two taco crawlers (mc09) and both times i stayed up untill 4 A.M. in the mornig right aside marlin so that the customer would be able to go home the next morning.

Its not like he's trying to piss all of us off in fact he's TRYING to do the the opposite he's the only guy that i know that works 7 days a week 16 hours a day (well that's not working for him either). i couldn't have put it any better.


and last time i was there about a mounth and a half ago marlin was still trying to get the adapter from his machinist. and when we put the crawler in robert allgoods taco we had to nock on the machine shop door and pick it up, what a pain in the ass:eek:


and one more thing snowchucker has a tacoma v6 adapter to a gear drivine t-case( altamate crawler) so jim woundn't have much to copy. dont get me wrong jim is a nice guy, and i have bought and sold things to him several times.


i will let all you fawkers finish bashing marlin,if it wasn't him it would be some one else..

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER




If you "officially" placed an order with Marlin, at least call to cancel the order before you go to another vendor.

If not, go for it. :D


I officially placed an order for 4.7:1 gears back in December. I got tired of waiting so I called up and cancelled my order at the end of January. I ended up getting them through All-Pro. Marlin's shop called me at the end of February to tell me the gears were in and they were getting ready to ship them to me. I told the guy I cancelled my order 4 weeks ago and not to bother shipping them unless they were free. He asked why and I said I got tired of waiting and got'em somewhere else. He then proceeded to tell me how these new gears are far better than any I could get anywhere else. :rolleyes: WHATEVER!
Well I thought that was the end of it until I got another call in March from Marlin's shop saying my credit card wasn't working and they couldn't ship the gears until it cleared ( i had paid it off and cancelled the card) I told the guy the whole story I had cancelled my order twice now and this makes the third time.

So I guess what I’m saying is "Officially canceling your order doesn't mean dick"!

Originally posted by e cliff
hey seebass it is hard to make you realize how i want to beat you sencesless but i can't, i also like the pbb too. i worked on the first two taco crawlers (mc09) and both times i stayed up untill 4 A.M. in the mornig right aside marlin so that the customer would be able to go home the next morning.

i couldn't have put it any better.


and last time i was there about a mounth and a half ago marlin was still trying to get the adapter from his machinist. and when we put the crawler in robert allgoods taco we had to nock on the machine shop door and pick it up, what a pain in the ass:eek:


and one more thing snowchucker has a tacoma v6 adapter to a gear drivine t-case( altamate crawler) so jim woundn't have much to copy. dont get me wrong jim is a nice guy, and i have bought and sold things to him several times.


i will let all you fawkers finish bashing marlin,if it wasn't him it would be some one else..

Thats all nice and all...and we all appreciate the hard work....but what about the run around alot of us are getting? I would just like a straight answer for once on when these are going to be ready.... I have called almost weekly since December...every week the same thing....call me next week....well the last time I called he said call me in a month...sheesh... :mad:

It sounds like you Taco guys are going to have two players in the field as soon as Inchworm gets his going. Me I will stick with Marlin, have had nothing but great service and got my things when promised. :D

I support Marlin, but reading these posts I don't think people are bashing him, really they are just telling their story...

We could start a new thread with ONLY good things about marlin and it would go on for pages..

I know I could write a page myself.

Originally posted by Brandon
I support Marlin, but reading these posts I don't think people are bashing him, really they are just telling their story...

We could start a new thread with ONLY good things about marlin and it would go on for pages..

I know I could write a page myself.
I don't think it'sbashing either, just plain frustration.

I have never bought any big ticket item from Marlin, just a few small misc. items. I do however appreciate all he's done for the Toyota folks.

This thread is really about the Tacoma guys wanting to make their SAS rigs crawl, and as of right now Marlin is the only one offering this. We pre-taco wheelers have more options and have the freedom of going elsewhere if company "X" drops the ball, and get damn near the same products, but the taco group is stuck waiting. I'd be bitching up a storm to if I was told a bunch of stories just to get my hopes up, then hear the same excuse next week.

Originally posted by Bones

I don't think it'sbashing either, just plain frustration.

I have never bought any big ticket item from Marlin, just a few small misc. items. I do however appreciate all he's done for the Toyota folks.

This thread is really about the Tacoma guys wanting to make their SAS rigs crawl, and as of right now Marlin is the only one offering this. We pre-taco wheelers have more options and have the freedom of going elsewhere if company "X" drops the ball, and get damn near the same products, but the taco group is stuck waiting. I'd be bitching up a storm to if I was told a bunch of stories just to get my hopes up, then hear the same excuse next week.

WORD G! :D :beer: :rasta:

Originally posted by FlatTaco


WORD G! :D :beer: :rasta:
It's "WERD" you foo :vader2:

Poor Marlin, I am sure he is trying.

When I ordered my stuff I got it like a week later. That was almost two years ago though. Good guy. Liked talking too him, he had lots of info about trannies and tranny swaps. Must have talked to him total of an hour about them over two phone calls. Most poeple would have started getting pissed after a couple minutes, but Marlin just talking away.

Originally posted by Brandon
I support Marlin, but reading these posts I don't think people are bashing him, really they are just telling their story...



exactly. this is not bashing just people telling their stories.

- jack

Originally posted by OPP'S
It sounds like you Taco guys are going to have two players in the field as soon as Inchworm gets his going. Me I will stick with Marlin, have had nothing but great service and got my things when promised. :D


What a coincidence, after Tacos have been on the market for years... Marlin comes out with an adapter, then Inchworm comes out w/ one soon after. :rolleyes: Makes you kinda wonder.

Originally posted by SuperRunner
Poor Marlin, I am sure he is trying.

When I ordered my stuff I got it like a week later. That was almost two years ago though. Good guy. Liked talking too him, he had lots of info about trannies and tranny swaps. Must have talked to him total of an hour about them over two phone calls. Most poeple would have started getting pissed after a couple minutes, but Marlin just talking away.

I think the best thing the new Toyota Service Manager working for Marlin can do for him would be to take his phone away.

Originally posted by marco



What a coincidence, after Tacos have been on the market for years... Marlin comes out with an adapter, then Inchworm comes out w/ one soon after. :rolleyes: Makes you kinda wonder.
If U have something to say, say it. don't throw out 1/2 truths and whole lies buddy.

Originally posted by marco



What a coincidence, after Tacos have been on the market for years... Marlin comes out with an adapter, then Inchworm comes out w/ one soon after. :rolleyes: Makes you kinda wonder.

Wonder what? That someone sees an existing market that is not being properly by the current supplier so they are gonna give it a shot and see if they can do it better?

Seems like everyday business to me....

Or are you trying to somehow claim that someone is COPYING someone here?





BTW - the sad, sad, part about this is all of these stories are from people who have TREID to make things work with Marlin. None of these people set out to get screwed, and went with Marlin because they knew he was a "good guy".

I hope something changes, but I know those of us from the old ORC mailing list have been saying that Marlin needed to get things in order YEARS ago, and nothing has happened yet....


Best of luck to him... if we think he is popular now, imagine if he did not have such a horrible product delivery reputation :eek:

I dare say there would be little need to shop for crawler adapters and accompanying Toyota accessories ANYWHERE else...

Amazing the potential he holds right *there* - yet has been unable to utilize thus far :(

Originally posted by SeaBass44

If U have something to say, say it. don't throw out 1/2 truths and whole lies buddy.

CORRECTION:

It made ME kinda wonder.



Nothing 1/2 true or whole lie about it.

Originally posted by Bones

It's "WERD" you foo :vader2:

Not where I come from FOO :D :flipoff2: :D

Originally posted by marco


CORRECTION:

It made ME kinda wonder.



Nothing 1/2 true or whole lie about it.

Fair enough;) U see how your post looked, kinda made me mmmm wonder:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Originally posted by DRM


Wonder what? That someone sees an existing market that is not being properly by the current supplier so they are gonna give it a shot and see if they can do it better?

Seems like everyday business to me....

Or are you trying to somehow claim that someone is COPYING someone here?
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I wouldn't say COPY (or claim to KNOW anything), but I would assume that Inchworm at least has seen a picture of Marlin's adapter. If I was to build (I'm not that skilled) an adapter and there was one already on the market, I would see how it was built. If it had short coming, I would improve upon it and learn from their mistakes.

Yes, it is good business.


I was just wondering what came first... the chicken or the egg?

Well Taco guys if it was not for Marlin you would still be bouncing and breaking shit and saying “Man I wish I could get some crawler gears”. Hopefully he can get his shit together and start getting the product to you. Once he does you will have a quality product. As far a copying that is the way Marlin and JP Eater (Chris C.) started out Marlin has just refined it a bit. As far as Jack, I think he just sits around getting fatter. As far as you guys that go elsewhere to get your stuff, please do not call Marlin when you have a problem, it makes it hard for a paying Marlin customer to talk to him.:D

Originally posted by OPP'S
Well Taco guys if it was not for Marlin you would still be bouncing and breaking shit and saying “Man I wish I could get some crawler gears”.
If you have the cash, there is always Atlas and Klune :D

Originally posted by DRM

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Best of luck to him... if we think he is popular now, imagine if he did not have such a horrible product delivery reputation :eek:

I dare say there would be little need to shop for crawler adapters and accompanying Toyota accessories ANYWHERE else...

Amazing the potential he holds right *there* - yet has been unable to utilize thus far :(

There's also a flip side. He could have gone down a worse path.

I've got a Birfield Eliminator for sale.

Best of luck to Marlin... and to myself. I'm placing an order w/ him VERY soon.

I like the copy thing. Does anyone remember where the first crawler came from??? Those crazy, glacier driving guys in Iceland. Benny somethings??

I think snowchucker dropped off a tacoma case to jim at inchworm to mess with so I don't think he will be making a copy. And the tacoma guys can't get there stuff from Marlin yet so they are still bouncing around Opp's...;)

Originally posted by marco



What a coincidence, after Tacos have been on the market for years... Marlin comes out with an adapter, then Inchworm comes out w/ one soon after. :rolleyes: Makes you kinda wonder.

I have yet to see one of these phantom adapteras show up on my doorstep.... :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Todd
I like the copy thing. Does anyone remember where the first crawler came from??? Those crazy, glacier driving guys in Iceland. Benny somethings??

speakin outa my ass here - but I thought he SOLD those, not copied them? Then he came up with a NEW model that was short, the long ones WERE someone elses I thought, hence the icelandic crawler name?

I dunno really, pretty sure the short idea was all his - don't doubt the long one wasn't. Big deal, they don't call it the MARLIN crawler for nuttin..

Originally posted by SeaBass44


Yup, that's how he works, if U drop by U can buy others peoples orders!


Originally posted by FlatTaco


I have yet to see one of these phantom adapteras show up on my doorstep....

FlatTaco,

I bought your order. :eek: :D :flipoff2:

I just got a call from Marlin's shop today and my stuff is being Shipped as i write this. The new guy does appear to be making big strides to get things straightened out on the buisness side. Friday the next set of 4.7 gears should be through customs and begin filling orders......
I was not in a hurry when i ordered my crawler, but i had a ton of questions and Marlin spent the time to go over it all in detail.
Unfortunatly i agree with a previous post that the best thing that could be done is to take the phone away from Marlin. He is too helpful and is will to go into detail on stuff when his time would be better spent in the shop. :D :D

Originally posted by marco





FlatTaco,

I bought your order. :eek: :D :flipoff2:

Damnit! I had a feeling someone else had my duals.... :p :D

Originally posted by Brandon


speakin outa my ass here - but I thought he SOLD those, not copied them? Then he came up with a NEW model that was short, the long ones WERE someone elses I thought, hence the icelandic crawler name?

I dunno really, pretty sure the short idea was all his - don't doubt the long one wasn't. Big deal, they don't call it the MARLIN crawler for nuttin.. I think that you are right about him selling the "Ice Crawler" as far as the short adapter according to Chris C. they came up with that a bit before Marlin did!!!

Originally posted by Brandon


speakin outa my ass here - but I thought he SOLD those, not copied them? Then he came up with a NEW model that was short, the long ones WERE someone elses I thought, hence the icelandic crawler name?

I dunno really, pretty sure the short idea was all his - don't doubt the long one wasn't. Big deal, they don't call it the MARLIN crawler for nuttin.. My point is that he didn't come up with the idea, he copied it. If Inchworm copies the Tacoma idea, not Xerox Marlin's adapter, then it's no big deal :D:D:D:D.

Marlin is WAY into the tech side of his business, and unable to keep up w/ the business side of it... He is a great guy, maybe swamped with orders though... I have wheeled with him, and BSed enough with him to know that he would not screw you on purpose, and would in fact give you his own shirt.... I would not give up on him, see how it turns out, I know he has dedicated the last 10 years to hardcore wheelers, when many were only after the $$...

Well I am ready to get my dual set up complete and with it being $1235 from Inchworm and $1348 from Marlin....MC07-U with 4.7:1 I sit here wondering how long it will be to get this to my door..or if I should run down there...I want it all ready so I am going this way and they are close in cost so its no big deal $wise....but now I am worrying a bit with Marlin....Someone push me one way or the other....:D

Originally posted by 5spd
Well I am ready to get my dual set up complete and with it being $1235 from Inchworm and $1348 from Marlin....MC07-U with 4.7:1 I sit here wondering how long it will be to get this to my door..or if I should run down there...I want it all ready so I am going this way and they are close in cost so its no big deal $wise....but now I am worrying a bit with Marlin....Someone push me one way or the other....:D

dude just go with Jim at Inchworm and be done with it!;)

Originally posted by 5spd
Well I am ready to get my dual set up complete and with it being $1235 from Inchworm and $1348 from Marlin....MC07-U with 4.7:1 I sit here wondering how long it will be to get this to my door..or if I should run down there...I want it all ready so I am going this way and they are close in cost so its no big deal $wise....but now I am worrying a bit with Marlin....Someone push me one way or the other....:D
Well, I met Jim at InchWorm, Du I bought his rig;) He is every bit as nice as anyone U will ever meet, I would go with him.

Originally posted by 5spd
Well I am ready to get my dual set up complete and with it being $1235 from Inchworm and $1348 from Marlin....MC07-U with 4.7:1 I sit here wondering how long it will be to get this to my door..or if I should run down there...I want it all ready so I am going this way and they are close in cost so its no big deal $wise....but now I am worrying a bit with Marlin....Someone push me one way or the other....:D

Jim, go with Inchworm, heck Inchworm's name is Jim also! I've talked to Jim via emails and he is a super nice guy, and tells the whole story with his gears and all. I will be call'n up Inchworm when it comes my time to go w/crawler gears (Hopefully in a few weeks :p )

I will be giving Jim a call next week and go from there....:D

Originally posted by 5spd
I will be giving Jim a call next week and go from there....:D
Be sure to tell him SeaBass and the POR people sent ya;)

put your comments HERE (http://www.4x4stuff.com/Vendors/4xshops/links.cgi) so we have a resource that everyone can go look and see what experiences people have had with certain vendors.

I messed it up and it isn't alphebetical anymore - if there are any programming wizards out there that can figure it out I'd appreciate it :)

Anyway - feel free to add new vendors or comment on existing ones - just look and see if the vendor is in the list before you double add em..

Thanks

BTW if ya don't want to hunt for the marlin one it is HERE (http://www.4x4stuff.com/Vendors/4xshops/links.cgi?action=view_cat&category=27) and ALL of the comments are good so far..

Don't just say he is an ass, give some background if you had problems. Let others learn from your probs..

Originally posted by Brandon
put your comments HERE (http://www.4x4stuff.com/Vendors/4xshops/links.cgi) so we have a resource that everyone can go look and see what experiences people have had with certain vendors.

I messed it up and it isn't alphebetical anymore - if there are any programming wizards out there that can figure it out I'd appreciate it :)

Anyway - feel free to add new vendors or comment on existing ones - just look and see if the vendor is in the list before you double add em..

Thanks
And you just HAD to put NWOR on there huh! :D

lol look how long the novels people wrote about NWOR are! LOL

Originally posted by Brandon
lol look how long the novels people wrote about NWOR are! LOL
LOL As if we need to hear more of that crap. I didn't notice, but if it's not there, I will add a TAP to it as well :flipoff2:

it's there ;)

until I figure out how to alphabetize em, the Edit -> find option in your web browser works pretty well ;)

i tried and tried to call Marlin's shop yesterday finally got the answering machine since it was after 5pm. the message was interesting, it told the shop hours and stuff and went on to say that Marlin himself would only talk on the phone on tues and thurs. and that if you wanted to talk to him you'd have to call back during those times. so, maybe things are changing for the better over there.

- jack

after 5 don't mean a thing - best he don't answer but he is there till 11pm usually!

next set of 4.7 gears should be through cu s t o ms

so where are they now?
another canadian product?

"...just plain frustration..."

Yup, that pretty much sums it up...

However today the frustration is gone. Ron over at Marlin's shop just called me and they are shipping my tacoma crawler out today! He insisted on covering the shipping charges and even offered to ship it over night. I told them that wasn't necessary and just to ship it ground. So I will have it the middle of next week. :) :) :)

shane

Originally posted by mj
Another canadian product? I believe his new gear cutter is in Japan, actually.

I just got off the phone with Ron to let him know what is going on on this board he say's he's going to post his new business plan for marlin crawler tonight or as soon as he get's his password for newbie.
It seems to me that the light is about to shine. Kind of like allpro a year ago when chris took over...:beer: :beer: :beer:

I just hope Marlin doesn't get screwed here :(

Originally posted by Brandon
I just hope Marlin doesn't get screwed here :(

There will always be Marlin faithfuls who won't forget all of the good things he's done while he's going through some rough times.

Damn this post sure has got big since the last time I was here! :eek: I just talked to Dan at Marlin and the ball is rolling on the Tacoma stuff. He even mentioned this post and it totally blew by my head. The good thing is I didn't talk to Marlin so that means he is working on my stuff I hope!

Originally posted by marco


There will always be Marlin faithfuls who won't forget all of the good things he's done while he's going through some rough times.

I have bought from him in the past too and have waited. I would still buy from him again if he can catch up. I don't think anyone here thinks he is a bad guy, he's not. I wouldn't have known to put a turbo tranny behind my v6 if it weren't for him. They just don't want to wait months which is totally understandable. Business is business and people will go elsewere if the service is better and faster, that's just the way it is, nothing personal.

Originally posted by Clifton


I have bought from him in the past too and have waited. I would still buy from him again if he can catch up. I don't think anyone here thinks he is a bad guy, he's not. I wouldn't have known to put a turbo tranny behind my v6 if it weren't for him. They just don't want to wait months which is totally understandable. Business is business and people will go elsewere if the service is better and faster, that's just the way it is, nothing personal.

Nope not a bad guy at all just very behind! I still want my stuff like yesterday though.

Originally posted by RockDog
Friday the next set of 4.7 gears should be through customs and begin filling orders......



still reading through the thread, but the gears are imported? where from?


i know we can get a 4.88 gear set here and they are developing a 5.2.



NICK

Originally posted by Dr. Evil
I believe his new gear cutter is in Japan, actually.


if they come out of japan they will the unkin gears, heard nothing but good things about they and they are as strong as all fawk.
although you need to grind alot out of your tcase to get them in, i would hate to see a 5.2 set installed and the tcase wall thinckness,


NICK

Originally posted by Brandon
I just hope Marlin doesn't get screwed here :(

Brandon, the only screwing would be done by Marlin to himself...