got a few goodies in the UPS today... i'll post pic's of the install tomorrow :D

BTW, what is it ;)

and a close up of the adapters :D

Rear full floater kit for a Toy axle? :confused:

Originally posted by DRM
Rear full floater kit for a Toy axle? :confused:


LOL yea... got the shaft's in today finally... had the adapter's for a while, and i pick my spindles up tomorrow :D

Looks sweet - price on the whole she-bang?

Originally posted by DRM
Looks sweet - price on the whole she-bang?


$220 for the adapters
$335 for the shaft's (moser)
$free spindle's hub's rotor's caliper's off 81 axle
$11 front inner axle seals to install in spindles
$25 machine work to put seals into front spindles
$13 axle seal's to repack bearings
$15 all the bolt's to put it together with

so a grand totoal of: $619


this kit will also make my rear axle 59 1/4 without wheel spacers

i am going to get FJ80 drive flanges eventually... so i dunno what they run ;)


i should add, this kit uses all stock front axle componant's, no machine work required if you chose to let your wheelbearings run in 90wt

a little steep IMHO :p , but looks like top notch parts and a good setup :)

curious to see how long toy hubs last in a rear axle

Originally posted by camo
curious to see how long toy hubs last in a rear axle

going to drive flanges as soon as i get back from JV, toyota can't have them before i leave :(

Originally posted by DRM
a little steep IMHO :p , but looks like top notch parts and a good setup :)

well i think the adapters were a lil steep, but suince they're only 10 set's on earth, it's all good :D

Originally posted by camo
curious to see how long toy hubs last in a rear axle

I got about a year and a half on mine and doing ok.....but hey, I run rear blocks too :D :D :D

Jay

Originally posted by ROKTOY


I got about a year and a half on mine and doing ok.....but hey, I run rear blocks too :D :D :D

Jay


Hmm so that means since i have a block in my rear that mu hub's will last forever too :D

You catch on fast ;)

Jay

Originally posted by ROKTOY
You catch on fast ;)

Jay


bit i'll probably break all the bolt's out of my beadlock's ;)

Spindles came of a 83 and 84 :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

I have seen the FJ-60 hub flanges fail when used in a rear application. Hope the FJ-80's are a little stronger.

Originally posted by crash
Spindles came of a 83 and 84 :flipoff2: :flipoff2:


shut up.. go away.. no one asked you..























:flipoff2:

whos's adapters are they?

Originally posted by DSI



shut up.. go away.. no one asked you..

:flipoff2:

So much negativity, maybe you should go visit your therapist again, and oh, those are my special "exploding" spindles, never mind the itty bitty box on the inside :flipoff2: :flipoff2:
Should have givin ya a 6 pack of them spindles :D

Originally posted by deleon87
whos's adapters are they?
I think FROFAB is the only maker out there.

Thats an awesome kit. I think I saw you pass by a sheriff the other day in town by ampm DSI. I saw him pull out behind you. Did he pull you over?

The adapters are by somebody else...

Ya, come awn dave, tell us about the friendly chat with MR police man :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

lets hear it:flipoff2:

SInce dave has pussy'ed out, i guess he was pulling out onto the highway, well, 38.5's and a spool kinda make mr. tires make a weee bit of noise, needless to say dave was lucky and didn't get a reckless just a fix it ticket i think, but talk about a jerk cop, all dave has to do is lightly power that bitch thru a turn and the tires make noise...

SHitty. I have never met dave, but have seen his truck around town a couple of times and on my way to school the other day I look over and see his truck passing(bigger than ever) and next thing I see a sheriff eyeballin the fawk outta him. I knew the prick was going to go pull him over when I saw his blinker change directions. AT least he didn't get a ticket, that is until next time:flipoff2:

$220 for the adapters?............and a little bit of the golf ball and garden hose trick!!!!!!!:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by DSI

i should add, this kit uses all stock front axle componant's, no machine work required if you chose to let your wheelbearings run in 90wt



If you use the stock rear axle seals & the custom axles were machined to fit, wouldn't this keep the gear oil inside the housing & the wheel bearing grease where it's supposed to go?:confused:

Funny, that looks so familiar... Maybe since we've been selling the kit for a couple years, and Ive been running one for longer than that...

Though we don't widen the rear, we supply a lot more hardware, and seal the oil into the diff, and run bearings in grease.

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER




If you use the stock rear axle seals & the custom axles were machined to fit, wouldn't this keep the gear oil inside the housing & the wheel bearing grease where it's supposed to go?:confused:


correct, by adding the seal inside the spindle it keeps the 90wt in teh diff and the grease on the bearings.

Sebass - they are not Front Range adapters, there's a long story behind them... and it's kinda painful...

nutsak if your talking about monday of this week, i turned into the automall and got past him :) the fix-it came from the jack in teh box parking lot on teh other side of the freeway the week before! now how do i fix my defective spool :p


and Crash :flipoff2: i had the spindle's de-bomb'ed ;) i saw teh grey clay looking stuff smeared in there to look like grease, you're C4 trick won't kill me!

But it's $750. Ouch. Getting off the rear bearings and backing plates this weekend sure did suck - but it's not a $700 kind of suck. :eek:

On the other hand, they do have V6/4cyl spools for $200 now. Brian, do you have the nw marlin 4.7s in stock?

Actually for that kit, to put front brakes on the rear, its 699. The 749 kit puts Supra calipers on that have an e-brake in them. And like I said, we include a lot of hardware, as well as brake hoses, snap rings, etc.

As far as the oil and grease issue, we now don't machine spindles, our seals are mounted in special adapters so there are no wear parts in our kit.

No we have no 4.7's in stock right now, and yes spools are 199.

Originally posted by DSI
Correct, by adding the seal inside the spindle it keeps the 90wt in teh diff and the grease on the bearings.




Let me rephrase the question:

Why did you add a seal to the spindle, when there is already a seal in the end of the axle housing? (2 if you count the o-ring)
Would this not seal the grease in?

The factory seal seals on a bearing retaining collar. Its much larger than an axle shaft, so it cant be used to seal the shaft. The o-ring simply seals between the housing and the adapter ring/backing plate. If you think about oil running down the axle shaft, youll see why you need a seal in the spindle somewhere.

Originally posted by Brian Ellinger
The factory seal seals on a bearing retaining collar. Its much larger than an axle shaft, so it cant be used to seal the shaft. ......you need a seal in the spindle somewhere.



AH! Eye See said the blind man :)

Thankx Brian -

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER




AH! Eye See said the blind man :)

Thankx Brian -


Hmmm, i didn't know one eye'd blind me could see :confused:


anywho i'm off to teh garage to install the kit... pic's and writeup in a few hours :D

Originally posted by DSI






and Crash :flipoff2: i had the spindle's de-bomb'ed ;) i saw teh grey clay looking stuff smeared in there to look like grease, you're C4 trick won't kill me!

Well crap, ok, remember caddy shack and those cute little c-4 animals he he he, think i can make a full size version :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

why not just get a toyota full floater, would have cost you a hundred bucks out the junk yard :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :rolleyes:

Originally posted by NIC
why not just get a toyota full floater, would have cost you a hundred bucks out the junk yard :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :rolleyes:
cause we r in the usa:flipoff2:

Originally posted by crash


Well crap, ok, remember caddy shack and those cute little c-4 animals he he he, think i can make a full size version :flipoff2: :flipoff2:


ya, living in goldbar no one would notice 200# of C4 in your garage, cuz they're not smart enough to know what it is :flipoff2:

Originally posted by DSI



ya, living in goldbar no one would notice 200# of C4 in your garage, cuz they're not smart enough to know what it is :flipoff2:
C4, I can make C4, I want some symtex:D

Hey, you build em and i will deliver them :D

Originally posted by DSI



$220 for the adapters
$335 for the shaft's (moser)
$free spindle's hub's rotor's caliper's off 81 axle
$11 front inner axle seals to install in spindles
$25 machine work to put seals into front spindles
$13 axle seal's to repack bearings
$15 all the bolt's to put it together with

so a grand totoal of: $619




Yep, Price about right for a Full Floater done in pieces.
I think I have about $1500 in my Isuzu Dana 44 FF's. But then again, I ended up using a Warn FF kit for a 75 Waggy and had to machine a few parts to tie it together. So far so good.
My seals are in the spindel also. I ended up having to use some Hi Temp RTV on the back side of the spindle. The gasket just isn't up to the task when it all gets good and warm. Get you some spare seals cuz they are prone to leak. Especially if you pull an axle very often during building. I can ruin your whole day.

Looking Good Dude!!! :smokin:
You'll break your arm off patting yourself on the back if you ever trash a R&P on the trail. Pull the driveshaft and and unlock the rear hubs , toss it in FWD and drive it home. If, you don't have a tow rig that is.
CJ

I got my dana60 full floater for FREE!:flipoff2:

Originally posted by fullywrecked
I got my dana60 full floater for FREE!:flipoff2:


and it's 8 lug, 30 sp, with 4:10's and an open carrier..


so what?

Actually NIC... the FF would be 100 bucks out of the Junk Yard and shipping to the US would be about 500 plus whatever you charge those of us that won't pay you in sexual favors for the finders fee... plus whatever it costs to rebuild the axle (especially considering we would have to explain to the guy at the Toyota parts counter that we do IN FACT have a FF Toy axle)... DSI's solution is still cheaper I think...

:flipoff2:

On the other hand... let me have those adapters for a week and I can have my own CNC copy for a whole lot less than that... :)

Originally posted by Entropy
On the other hand... let me have those adapters for a week and I can have my own CNC copy for a whole lot less than that... :) C'mon DSI, I want some cheap FF shiznit, hook him UP! :D :D :D

Originally posted by DSI



and it's 8 lug, 30 sp, with 4:10's and an open carrier..


so what?

Soon to have a 35 spline SPOOL and 5:13 gears......and not a little punany 7.8" ring gear!:flipoff2: