: Top Truck Challange 2002 Finalists
WOLF359 04-03-2002, 01:37 PM Just got off the phone with Four Wheeler, and I'm in. Here are the other finalists:
7 - Robert Bryce, British Columbia, Canada, '83 Chevy Blazer
12 - Jerry Cantrell, Oklahoma, '56 CJ-3A
13 - Tim Dzaman, Alberta, Canada 72 Landcruiser WOLF359
25 - Cory Dean, Alberta, Canada '85 Chevy K20
28 - Jess Haines, Michigan, 86 Toyota Pickup
31 - Scott Godfrey, California, raptor 1001
48 - Matthew Parkes, Arizona, 66 Landcruiser
53 - Abelardo Ramirez, California, 78 IH Scout
54 - John Reynolds, California, Fat City Bronco
67 - Frog (sorry don't have name it's on the back of my ballot which I sent in)
Alternates:
33 - Toby Lavender, California - 53 Jeep
39 - Chuck Kammer, Califroania - 79 Jeep CJ-7
riffman 04-03-2002, 01:48 PM excelent!! congrats to board members!!
Thanks for posting! :)
This looks like a good crop again....good luck to all!
Boss
white knight 04-03-2002, 02:00 PM Congrats to all, especially WOLF359 .
He's got my call for number one but I'm not bias or anything to that effect
GloNDark 04-03-2002, 02:19 PM Fat city and Wolf?? DAMN IT!! Who do you vote for when your two favorite trucks are both in it. :D :D
Kurtastrophe 04-03-2002, 02:36 PM Besides Fat City and Wolf, are there any other Pirate Board members on that list?
chevota01 04-03-2002, 02:36 PM Kick some butt -- you got the rig to do it!!!
Tracknod 04-03-2002, 02:39 PM DAAAAUUUUUUMMMMM!!!!! Congrats Wolf:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: Also congrats to all the other board members!!!
mudtruck44 04-03-2002, 02:41 PM I am one of the guys going! A lot of POR guys are going this year. That kind of shows you something about the guys on this board.
#7
#13
#28
#53
#54
#67
Those guys have all posted on POR. Thanks for the votes everyone.:D
welndmn 04-03-2002, 02:46 PM Congrats guys!
I am a little miffed, i wants H8mondy to go
The Adam Blaster 04-03-2002, 02:47 PM That's cool!!! Three Canadians!!!!!!!! http://media.monster.com/mm/caen/home/canada3.gif
The Jerk 04-03-2002, 02:49 PM GODFREY GET it, the raptor will be kickign but, sounds liek aswee field this year! jiMMy
BillaVista 04-03-2002, 02:53 PM Could it be true...all in ONE year, Mens Gold, womens gold, AND TTC
Go CANADA!!!!
:smokin: :smokin:
Congrats all
Comiserations to h8.......it's only coz they don;t know ya! Next time - submit a pic of your mug, not your rig....you're in fer sure!
MudBunny 04-03-2002, 02:53 PM Congrats to all the finalists.......special "good luck's" go out to all PBB members.......But keeping my fingers crossed for the Canadian participants!
Go http://media.monster.com/mm/caen/home/canada3.gif Go!
Originally posted by mudtruck44
I am one of the guys going! A lot of POR guys are going this year. That kind of shows you something about the guys on this board.
#7
#13
#28
#53
#54
#67
Those guys have all posted on POR. Thanks for the votes everyone.:D
I think everyone should sport there "pirate4x4.com" stickers
Congrats guys
Belly Dragger 04-03-2002, 03:12 PM Originally posted by The Adam Blaster
That's cool!!! Three Canadians!!!!!!!! http://media.monster.com/mm/caen/home/canada3.gif Good thing no Russians are competing.
Mark '73 FJ40 04-03-2002, 03:19 PM CONGRATS! :flipoff2: :beer: :smokin:
Alaskan Assassin 04-03-2002, 03:27 PM Good thing there are not any French Judges:D Hey Good Luck too all that got in. Maybe next year for me;)
H8monday 04-03-2002, 03:33 PM Originally posted by welndmn
Congrats guys!
I am a little miffed, i wants H8mondy to go
Hahaha, Thanks, but Im probably $2000 in broken parts richer, than if I had been voted in.
I just dont think my rig has enough flash, to get the votes.
White Paint Job, no big block, no excotic suspension, its a solid rig, and performs very well, but when you put it up against Frogs Rig , the Fat City Bronco, Raptor, or Wolf 359, its just plain ol Vanilla.
Good luck to all of you who made it. It really does look like very a good selection this time around.
stonpny 04-03-2002, 03:37 PM Good luck Jerry Cantrell........make us okies proud and bring another ttc championship to oklahoma. Show them cali boys what we do here in Oklahoma...
Originally posted by mudtruck44
I am one of the guys going! A lot of POR guys are going this year. That kind of shows you something about the guys on this board.
#7
#13
#28
#53
#54
#67
Those guys have all posted on POR. Thanks for the votes everyone.:D
6 out of ten rigs from p4x4 made the A list not bad. :D
hey you guys that made it in pm me your address and i will send you some pirate4x4.com sticker for you rigs.
Brawler 04-03-2002, 04:09 PM Congrats to all. I think the layout is pretty good this year. Can't wait to see who wins. I know where my moneys going.
Magoo 04-03-2002, 04:16 PM With the exception of about 3 that is who I voted for. I had picked Wolf's 'cruiser (who wouldn't), the blazer, and the Frog. I did vote for the aussie thought it would be cool to have a 3 continent TTC. Then again it sure is along way to come to loose to the home team!:flipoff2:
can we get a pic of each rig that is from p4x4 posted? anybody have pics post em. i wanna see each rig
Brawler 04-03-2002, 04:36 PM I have about 80 build up pics of the Fat City Bronco, but here is one of the underbelly and one of the side.
Brawler 04-03-2002, 04:36 PM underbelly
Originally posted by welndmn
Congrats guys!
I am a little miffed, i wants H8mondy to go
ya but then we would all have to listen to how great he is :D besides he would just break :flipoff2:
Brawler 04-03-2002, 04:42 PM this is abba
Brawler 04-03-2002, 04:43 PM one more from side
bigblaze 04-03-2002, 04:52 PM good luck too all. Kind of wish i could go again and see a couple of those rigs up close!
LOKNLOD 04-03-2002, 04:53 PM I did good this year, I picked 6 of those, plus one of the alternates :D
Not crazy about a couple of those though....
I think H8 is right about why he didn't get picked. I was discussing my choices with my dad and he was like "Why that one?" Just not an eye-catcher I guess.
offroadr35 04-03-2002, 04:59 PM is that scout's body really that straight?
bigblaze 04-03-2002, 05:02 PM i tryed for 4 years to get in so finally i built the burb and hacked it up and just made it just different enough and ugly enough to make people at least take the time to read what i had done to it, and well apparently it worked. But hey everyone has there own strategy to get in and everyone has different amounts of money to put in there rigs so whatever works! you know! To be honest i would have of rather competed with my 72 blazer that would be a little less hacked up but i did what i needed to do!
KILLERXJ 04-03-2002, 05:07 PM What are the dates and locations for TTC?
Curtis 04-03-2002, 05:09 PM Originally posted by offroadr35
is that scout's body really that straight?
Yep. It's too purty :D :D
schuss 04-03-2002, 05:31 PM Congrats guys, someday I might think of going, as for now, I'm just a newb.
AIRZUKI 04-03-2002, 05:47 PM too cool!!!!
Go RYEGUY!!!!!!!!
:D :D :D :D :D :D
( also we (OTT) have a vested interest in the T-cases;) )
spinalguy 04-03-2002, 08:15 PM Congrats all. i also had 6 of 10 picked. i hope the Wolf 359 does well as i just bought his "spare 60 and 70" and NO Tim you can not borrow MY axles for the SHOW:flipoff2:
Peabody 04-03-2002, 08:37 PM Congrats guys :beer: Really does say something about this bb.
:usa:
Wilson 04-03-2002, 10:04 PM Right on, time to get it ABBA, remember, I want to see some smoking burnouts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And yes the scout is really that straight.
dumplin 04-03-2002, 10:25 PM Congrats to all pbb members who were picked, ya'll kick some ass
:flipoff2:
Skyetone 04-04-2002, 06:48 AM I'll grab and scan the mag later and post pix.
mudtruck44 04-04-2002, 07:26 AM http://www.geocities.com/mudtruck44/jesse2.jpg
lt1yj 04-04-2002, 07:51 AM Good luck all p4x4.com members! That Bronco and the Scout look awesome! I can almost see the scratchs from the Tank trap on the Scouts panels.
billjohn 04-04-2002, 08:13 AM Originally posted by offroadr35
is that scout's body really that straight?
Looks Good...
Pdaddy 04-04-2002, 08:18 AM mud truck did you get a winch yet?!
mudtruck44 04-04-2002, 08:52 AM Originally posted by pdaddy
mud truck did you get a winch yet?!
I will order one today!
bigblaze 04-04-2002, 09:04 AM yes the tank trap is gonna make a couple (hundred)scratchs on thos e nice paint jobs. But hey that is what is all about
BlazzinOR 04-04-2002, 10:29 AM Originally posted by camo
6 out of ten rigs from p4x4 made the A list not bad. :D
hey you guys that made it in pm me your address and i will send you some pirate4x4.com sticker for you rigs.
Too bad Fourwheeler won't let them have ONE sticker on their trucks............NONE. Fawking sucks, Stephen (ORD) and Scott (Rockstomper) had to take all theirs off.............
Root Moose 04-04-2002, 11:34 AM Originally posted by AIRZUKI
too cool!!!!
Go RYEGUY!!!!!!!!
:D :D :D :D :D :D
( also we (OTT) have a vested interest in the T-cases;) )
Cool!
I get to see that machine on video!
Best of luck to all finalists but I'm rooting for Rob.
r@m
jasonmt 04-04-2002, 08:18 PM Robert Bryce - #7
jasonmt 04-04-2002, 08:18 PM Another
jasonmt 04-04-2002, 08:21 PM Last one
jasonmt 04-04-2002, 08:29 PM Wolf 359 - #13
The Adam Blaster 04-04-2002, 10:06 PM Hey mudtruck44, that's a pretty nice lookin rig ya got there, have you thought about bobbin' the bed on that to get a better departure angle? Just thinking that you're gonna have to have a near perfect all-around machine to beat the other competitors.....
zukiman 04-05-2002, 01:27 AM Damnit, nobody I ever vote for gets into TTC. Not even my top choice made it this year: Superjens Nissan Xterra. :(
Root Moose 04-05-2002, 06:05 AM Originally posted by zukiman
Damnit, nobody I ever vote for gets into TTC. Not even my top choice made it this year: Superjens Nissan Xterra. :(
Probably a good thing. Seen the xterra video thread going on now?
Talk about a fish out of water.
r@m
Skyetone 04-05-2002, 06:49 AM here's those pix...
Pirate guys
Skyetone 04-05-2002, 06:51 AM non pirate guys :zzz: :zzz: :skull: :clown: :zzz: :zzz:
white knight 04-05-2002, 07:02 AM Thanks for the post Skyetone
The pirate guys are going to rock.
mudtruck44 04-05-2002, 07:10 AM I ordered a Warn HS9500 last night.
I have thought about bobbing my bed, but I think the only time it would really help me out there would be in the measurements.
I also have a secret weapon. My spotter is going to be Glenn Wakefield. We got third place in TTC '97 with a Samurai with a 4 banger and 33's. Um, he knows how to drive, he been there before. I think he will be a big advantage.:D
Sloan 04-05-2002, 09:18 AM I think I might actually be looking forward to seeing this year's video.
TJpwr 04-05-2002, 09:56 AM This seems like a silly thing to have to say but, learn to winch and to winch well and effective. It seems that that is a killer in TTC. Last year Feris in the Hotrod and his spotter almost killed a great run because of whiching problems. Also the same year the guys in the M37 ran over the cable ang got all fawked up. Both these teams were really great guys and worked awsome otherwise but just get caught up in the action I think. Happened to Jaken Halenbeck(sp) too. It does not say anythng about driver ability but I think everone should just slow down and winch carfully.
Good luck to all, Phil :usa:
zukiman 04-05-2002, 10:20 AM Originally posted by Root Moose
Probably a good thing. Seen the xterra video thread going on now?
Talk about a fish out of water.
r@m
Yes, I've been following that thread religiously. So when I saw this thread, I couldn't help thinking about how great Superjens would do in the Tank Trap. But he might scratch his paint or break his daily driver. :crybaby2: Poor guy.
Root Moose 04-05-2002, 10:23 AM Originally posted by zukiman
Yes, I've been following that thread religiously. So when I saw this thread, I couldn't help thinking about how great Superjens would do in the Tank Trap. But he might scratch his paint or break his daily driver. :crybaby2: Poor guy.
Yeah, I keep going back and checking out the thread too. Can't help myself. :)
r@m
84 Sheepdog 04-05-2002, 04:30 PM Cool. I've seen Jerry's orange flatty in action. Hard to believe those okies have some pretty cool wheelin' around there. Maybe not as "scenic" as out west, but still some pretty fun stuff around Disney and Poteau. Boomer--sooner!
MellowYellow 04-05-2002, 04:41 PM Again congrats to all that were chosen.
Can I assume it will be at Hollister again?
What are the dates? I love to go check it out.
Shaker 04-05-2002, 05:37 PM CONGRADULATIONS PIRATE4X4 MEMBERS!!!!!
I'm glad that "some" of us are getting to show how it's done! Bring a lot of parts guys......KICK SOME ASS GUYS!!!! :beer: :p :D
Bindernut 04-05-2002, 06:37 PM I think Pat Decker should be an alternate, since he's a pirate member AND just finished his sweet project hooper - now he can go ANYWHERE! :flipoff2:
http://www.ihssii.org/Hooper/Images-Misc/TallSSII.jpg
Get it! Pirates will do awesome.
Toyota_Jim 04-05-2002, 06:51 PM Originally posted by Bindernut
I think Pat Decker should be an alternate, since he's a pirate member AND just finished his sweet project hooper - now he can go ANYWHERE! :flipoff2:
http://www.ihssii.org/Hooper/Images-Misc/TallSSII.jpg
Get it! Pirates will do awesome.
I hope like hell them sawmpers are 31's or some shit.
Bald1 04-05-2002, 07:13 PM Nice chop Bindernut:D :flipoff2:
Cheepin 04-05-2002, 08:46 PM Its awesome that there are so many rigs from the Pirate Board.Mudtruck44 cool rig.I would bob the bed though even if it only helps in the measurements.Wasn't last years decided by a few points?Wouldn't hurt.Blazin:rasta:
84 Sheepdog 04-06-2002, 08:53 AM Originally posted by Bindernut
I think Pat Decker should be an alternate, since he's a pirate member AND just finished his sweet project hooper - now he can go ANYWHERE! :flipoff2:
http://www.ihssii.org/Hooper/Images-Misc/TallSSII.jpg
Get it! Pirates will do awesome.
Are you serious? There is no way that thing flexes enough to need that much lift. The steering looks scarey too. Is big though...
stover 04-06-2002, 09:16 AM To those of you who got selected, Good luck.
To those of you that actually make it to Hollister in June Congrads.
Find it funny that the alternats are both from CA?
Rerard 04-06-2002, 09:51 AM Hmm thats weird... this guy musta had his work done at the same shop cause they look very similar.
http://www.yankeetoys.org/lee/webshot.jpg
elf_cruiser 04-06-2002, 10:14 AM I wonder if Lane Staley knows that Jerry Cantrell entered Top Truck Challenge???
Good luck to all of you who made it. I only hope the video coverage will be alot better than last years!
bigblaze 04-06-2002, 05:34 PM hey stover i heard you are gonna be one of the judges this year!
TNToy 04-06-2002, 09:29 PM Hey ryeguy, you got an alternate (non dick-cepeck) set of tires lined up yet?
Anyone else ever watched a set of DC's in mud? I'd hate to se you lose in a kick-ass truck because of those tires...
TJpwr 04-07-2002, 12:34 AM Originally posted by Dr. Evil
Hey ryeguy, you got an alternate (non dick-cepeck) set of tires lined up yet?
Anyone else ever watched a set of DC's in mud? I'd hate to se you lose in a kick-ass truck because of those tires...
I have to agree. Those don't look like they will cut it.
The rest of the truck however kicks major ass. I voted for you.;)
Phil:usa:
Lance 04-07-2002, 09:25 AM 6 P4x4 Members in TTC.... I'm so proud of you guys.... I think Im gonna cry.......
:flipoff2:
TNToy 04-08-2002, 10:28 AM Originally posted by TJpwr
I have to agree. Those don't look like they will cut it.I know they won't. Buddy of mine used to have a set of those tires. Hated them with a passsion. I've heard they're a great sand and snow tire, but all I've ever seen them in was mud. Talk about a suck-fest. They do okay compared to most other tires, but when you get into the 38-44 inch sizes and their only competition is the TSL and Bogger, well...
stover 04-08-2002, 10:46 AM I was told I'd be invited to be a judge by some reliable sources, however its up to Ned Bacon. I wont assume anything untill he says it. I Know 2 things at this point. 1, They wont let me compete on a team, due to an unfair advantage I provided to Robin Hood last year, I guess I just Know too much about how to win each event. 2, I have been invited by Jon Tompson himself to come again this year. :usa:
dumplin 04-08-2002, 11:11 AM Originally posted by stover
I was told I'd be invited to be a judge by some reliable sources, however its up to Ned Bacon. I wont assume anything untill he says it. I Know 2 things at this point. 1, They wont let me compete on a team, due to an unfair advantage I provided to Robin Hood last year, I guess I just Know too much about how to win each event. 2, I have been invited by Jon Tompson himself to come again this year. :usa:
Hello Mr. Stover , I have e mailed you a couple of times thru twisted axle and I haven't heard from you . This is the fat one from Tn . that was w/ Robin Hood @ last yrs. TTC . I will try to get
back in touch to say hi and shoot the s*** ! Robin and Larry just
went to Tellico on Easter weekend and had a ball . Get back at me
and we'll chat if you got a lil' time . Tell all the guys we met last year Robin , Larry , and myself said hi . See ya man and take care ! Kevin Grant :flipoff2:
ryeguy 04-08-2002, 11:27 AM No, not yet. :(
A good friend of mine has a brand new set of TSL's, even mounted on the same Hummer rims, but they are so new that they've still got the stickers on 'em, so he's not comfortable lending them to me. I'd offer to get them siped, but I don't that'll help. :(
Got another friend with a set. They're a bit chewed up from rocks, but still lots of tread on them. Can't borrow those either 'cause he's concerned about possible sidewall damage that you can't see 'til the tire fails sometime in the future.
Nobody else that I know that well runs a tire that large. So right now, it looks like I'll be on the DC's for the event. :( Still, I'm happy with on-road performance, snow is awesome so it should be good in sand. Seem okay in the rocks (not the best, not the worst), too. But they do absolutely suck in the mud.
--Rob
Originally posted by Dr. Evil
Hey ryeguy, you got an alternate (non dick-cepeck) set of tires lined up yet?
Anyone else ever watched a set of DC's in mud? I'd hate to se you lose in a kick-ass truck because of those tires...
TNToy 04-08-2002, 12:54 PM Maybe Daniel would hook you up with a set of his mil. spec. tires & wheels???
Anyone feel up to the task of loaning a set of tires to him? We gotta get him off those sand&snow terrains for TTC. :cool: :cool: :cool:
Hooper 04-08-2002, 02:10 PM Originally posted by chico
Are you serious? There is no way that thing flexes enough to need that much lift. The steering looks scarey too. Is big though...
What is wrong with the steering. I just used an acetelyn torch to heat then bend my pitman arm down some, then welded a 12 inch drop arm onto my passenger knuckle. From there, I ran 1/4" stainless steel cable through a pulley back to the driver side to hook to my custom Z-Link. So, essentially it is crossover, crossover steering, or as I like to call it for short, doublecross steering.
It really flexes well. I can get each of those 42's a full tire height off the ground, without lifting any of the other three. For shocks, I just built a ushaped bracket that goes from the end of one to the top of a second, then sleeved the joint with exhaust pipe and duct tape. My drivelines are a bit of a problem, but I ground down the yokes quite a bit so I could get the 60 or so degree angle I needed out of the ujoints. All you guys with 60's are just jealous cuz my D44's hold up just fine. I do need better gears though. My D20 coupled to TF 727 and 3.54 gears in the diffs don't have as much get up and go as I would like, but the IH powerplant more than makes up for it.
Sure, some of the other rigs might work better, but I look cooler.
Funny, that guy with the toyota looks like he has almost exactly the same setup as me. I saw him taking pictures of my rig down at the mall last weekend though, so he probably just built his based on the pictures he took.
bigblaze 04-08-2002, 04:59 PM hey ryeguy just tell your friends that you will replace any tire that gets any significant damage i meant damn what are they gonna do with them,set them in the garage and say wow they look cool! I mean hell if my tires were 16.5s i would consider loaning them too ya and for that matter my tires already know what to expect(ha,ha) well basically they have all ready been there.
bigblaze 04-08-2002, 05:02 PM oh yeah speaking of stickers they told us to remove all stickers and i purposely left my rock ram sticker on thinking they would maybe cut me a deal in future exspecially if i got the cover and now my rockram bent itself which they say is impossible and the most they will do is like knock 50 bucks off of the ram, which they would probally do that for anyone. Lesson learned!
grimbo 04-08-2002, 06:02 PM Originally posted by TJpwr
This seems like a silly thing to have to say but, learn to winch and to winch well and effective. It seems that that is a killer in TTC. Last year Feris in the Hotrod and his spotter almost killed a great run because of whiching problems. Also the same year the guys in the M37 ran over the cable ang got all fawked up. Both these teams were really great guys and worked awsome otherwise but just get caught up in the action I think. Happened to Jaken Halenbeck(sp) too. It does not say anythng about driver ability but I think everone should just slow down and winch carfully.
Good luck to all, Phil :usa:
I agree about winching properly. In events down under that i have been to the guys that can winch efectively, effeciently and quickly do that much better. keeping track of where your cable is and proper angles etc make all the difference. What most of teams down here are using is the Plasma Rope (nylon rope) on their winches as it is light and manageable for the spotters to run with and they can wrap it around the front bars alot easier than having to respool. the hot ticket IMHO is to have a net across the hood that you can just throw the rope under to keep it in place when not in use.
Good luck everyone, can't wait for the video.
PS I picked 7 plus an alternate
stover 04-08-2002, 07:29 PM Originally posted by grimbo
I agree about winching properly. In events down under that i have been to the guys that can winch efectively, effeciently and quickly do that much better. keeping track of where your cable is and proper angles etc make all the difference. What most of teams down here are using is the Plasma Rope (nylon rope) on their winches as it is light and manageable for the spotters to run with and they can wrap it around the front bars alot easier than having to respool. the hot ticket IMHO is to have a net across the hood that you can just throw the rope under to keep it in place when not in use.
Good luck everyone, can't wait for the video.
PS I picked 7 plus an alternate
I have some knoledge to pass along.
The rope is a must.... If you dont plan on driving through tank trap. Also paint the rope flourescent green. I have sucessfully wenched my CJ-7 through Tank Trap in under 30 min back in 99. Two days after TTC.
I know the placement of the good wenching points and how to get to them. Go to a Rock Climbing supply store and get heavy duty carabiners avoid the Screwgate style. These can be found in up to a 20,000 LB working load ranges. You'll need to hook up fast, this is the best way. Pratice a whole week. work out comunication before you get there. If I had to compete again, I would run at mid ship mounted wench like Pat Germelion's Bronco, and have a quick release pully system intergrated into the upper cage, this way if you need to wench backwards or sidways you can. another reason this works well is now the driver can engage the clutch at will, instead of relying on the tired spotter to run back to the front of the truck. Focus a good week on waterproofing.
You'll need a snorkle, exaust fording kit, waterproofed electronics and a lot of luck to not be killed by the water. Get a sports timer to keep track of time. spotter should wear lightweight clothing, it will not weigh him or her down when wet. these are just a few tips off the top of my head. see you there.:emb:
Paul Gagnon 04-08-2002, 11:34 PM Originally posted by ryeguy
No, not yet. :(
Nobody else that I know that well runs a tire that large.
Hey Rob here's a nutty idea. Ask Theresa (whiteknight) if you can borrow her boggers. :idea:
MOFUGRA 04-08-2002, 11:43 PM Originally posted by Paul Gagnon
Hey Rob here's a nutty idea. Ask Theresa (whiteknight) if you can borrow her boggers. :idea: I got a better idea, isnt the wolf359 on hummer rims and 44"boggs, why dont you guys just share :rolleyes: :flipoff2:
stover 04-09-2002, 06:41 AM does anyone know who dropped out of the compition, Anothe posted topic said somthing about this.:question:
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