: Few More Pics of the SOA and 36's
Scouty 02-25-2006, 05:43 PM Here are a few more pics of the spring over (by Jeff Ismail) and the 36x12.50 TSL's. We decided to keep the 3" bodylift and replaced the 4" superlift springs with stock springs. As you can see in the pics, there is plenty of room for the 36's. Next project will be dutchman axles for the front 44 and a 60 for the rear, but that will have to wait for some more money to grow on the tree in the backyard:shaking:
Scout stats are now: AMC 258, 727, Scout Dana 300 Tera Low, Dana 44's 4:88's, Spool in the rear, Powerloc in the front, SOA, Reverse Shackle, 36x12.50 TSL's on 15x10 Rock Krawler Series 91 rims.
Now that license plate I had on my old T'all doesn't look so out of place on the Scout:D
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johnnyx 02-25-2006, 06:25 PM That is big! http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/icons/icon14.gif http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/icons/icon14.gif
uglyscout 02-25-2006, 07:15 PM Why did he put your steering wheel on the wrong side? :D
Looks good!!!
Shadow man 02-25-2006, 07:29 PM One of the few vehicles that does look great in yellow. Nice. :)
Still just a little too tall for my taste, but looks great though.
Mechanos 02-25-2006, 09:11 PM Yes.... it does look good, but I have to agree that it you plan to do any medium to serious wheelin' with it that it's too tall. It will lean over into trees, etc. very easily and will feel quite tippy the off camber stuff. I have to address these issues on my rig as well.
Snoopy 02-25-2006, 09:55 PM Mech, if anyone knows, its you ~ springs settle in!
Speaking of which, how much flex is that? You didn't start pulling the rear tires off the ground did ya?
Brandon 02-25-2006, 10:00 PM I dig the RTI ramp, where can I get one of those? ;)
reuben 02-25-2006, 10:30 PM so are you coming down to hollister and running with us?
TheCopperCowboy 02-25-2006, 10:42 PM Yes.... it does look good, but I have to agree that it you plan to do any medium to serious wheelin' with it that it's too tall. It will lean over into trees, etc. very easily and will feel quite tippy the off camber stuff. I have to address these issues on my rig as well.
No shite, your springs are like slinkys! :flipoff2:
binderbound 02-25-2006, 11:11 PM I have always loved the cabtop II. Needs an exo-cage over that rare top if your gonna wheel it:D
Scouty 02-26-2006, 12:06 AM You know it Reuben, I will be there. Can't wait to actually use it.
As for the hieght what is a better setup? SOA, stock springs, no body, 37" tires and cutting the hell out of the fenders? Even with full size axles, your going to be hitting sheet metal with that setup. Link setup is nice but way to much fabrication, for what I plan to use the rig for.
Thanks for the good words :smokin:
Brandon 02-26-2006, 07:26 AM As for the hieght what is a better setup? SOA, stock springs, no body, 37" tires and cutting the hell out of the fenders? Even with full size axles, your going to be hitting sheet metal with that setup.
Thanks for the good words :smokin:
bump stops to limit up travel and flat springs
Mechanos 02-26-2006, 09:33 AM Mech, if anyone knows, its you ~ springs settle in!
Speaking of which, how much flex is that? You didn't start pulling the rear tires off the ground did ya?
Yeah... I know they do. Especially Crapjacker SoftRides. :flipoff2:
However, there is 5-6" of SOA and another 3" of BL. That's 8"-9" of lift that won't "settle in". You raise all of the sprung weight by that much and do very little (yeah, you used more backspacing and wider tires) to increase the track width and it's going to negatively affect the handling characteristics. I'm not saying that the rig is totally unusable.... I've taken mine many places. I'm just saying don't be surprised if you find your asshole growing fingers and trying to hold on to the seat and don't be surprised if you find your rig on it's side or top well before you "thought" it would go over. Granted, there is less weight up there with the cabtop vs. the travel top I have.
Again, I'm not badmouthing the truck..... it's a sharp nice looking ride, but I think it's going to share several undesireable handling characteristics that mine does.
Scouty 02-26-2006, 09:55 AM Again, I'm not badmouthing the truck..... it's a sharp nice looking ride, but I think it's going to share several undesireable handling characteristics that mine does.
Mech, I hear what you are saying, but what is a better setup without cutting fenders or going to links? Pretty much all the decent trails out here require a tire 35 or bigger, so how would you fit a tire that size under a rig with flat spings on a SOA without beating the body? Full-size axles would widen the stance providing a better COG, but without adding lift, the fenders would still be taking a beating...right? :confused:
Shadow man 02-26-2006, 10:35 AM Mech, I hear what you are saying, but what is a better setup without cutting fenders or going to links? Pretty much all the decent trails out here require a tire 35 or bigger, so how would you fit a tire that size under a rig with flat spings on a SOA without beating the body? Full-size axles would widen the stance providing a better COG, but without adding lift, the fenders would still be taking a beating...right? :confused:
I can sympathise with you on not cutting up the rig, it is really nice. The other evil is it will look a whole lot worse if you flop it. One thing I have noticed with these Scouts it is important to work, hard, to get the CG down. It does make a big difference. This last time around I lowered my engine center-line down another 2" and another 1" setback. Put it to you this way, my Wife noticed how the rig was more stable in off camber wheeling. I get off camber a lot. :)
BLK Scout 800 02-26-2006, 11:10 AM Very clean!!! NICE RIG
Eagle-Mark 02-26-2006, 11:44 AM Loose the body lift and install bump stops... or cut... trim...saw....grind... these 36 tires don't rub. But all I cut away was rust!
Mechanos 02-26-2006, 05:15 PM Mech, I hear what you are saying, but what is a better setup without cutting fenders or going to links? Pretty much all the decent trails out here require a tire 35 or bigger, so how would you fit a tire that size under a rig with flat spings on a SOA without beating the body? Full-size axles would widen the stance providing a better COG, but without adding lift, the fenders would still be taking a beating...right? :confused:
That's the catch 22. You pretty much can't lower the COG and still run that size rubber without cutting the fenders or lowering the drivetrain like Shadowman mentioned. I don't blame you for not wanting to cut the fenders... it's a nice rig. Almost too nice, actually, because after traveling down a few of those trails that require 35's... it's not going to look so nice anymore. Unfortunately, that's just the way it is. Maybe after you've bounced off a few rocks & trees and have it beat up, it won't hurt so much to cut the sheetmetal. IMO, really nice Scouts make nice street rigs.... rusty beater make good trail rigs 'cause you're just gonna beat the shit out of them anyway. YMMV
reuben 02-26-2006, 05:39 PM you will be fine for what you are going to do.especially in hollister. i run my scout SOA with 4" leaves and 2" body and never flopped it. just be careful of the line you are taking.
Harvester of Sorrow 02-26-2006, 06:10 PM you will be fine for what you are going to do.especially in hollister. i run my scout SOA with 4" leaves and 2" body and never flopped it. just be careful of the line you are taking.
Yeah...but look at your rig now...:rolleyes: :flipoff2:
You "should" be ok...if I remember right you have some ok gearing...This, and your brakes will help you from going "to far".
That is one sweet ass rig too my friend...
Scouty 02-26-2006, 07:26 PM Thanks for the comps guys, this truck has slowly evolved to where it is today, a far cry from the mosquito abatement truck it started out as.
Reuben, I should be able to have some fun down in hollister this year. I hope I won't be dragging ass like last year. Looking forward to the trip and hanging with the Dys Crew :flipoff2:
Snoopy 02-26-2006, 08:46 PM Is there dates for teh Hollister thing already?
reuben 02-26-2006, 08:49 PM yes there is, the scout weekend is march 10-12
JoshC 02-26-2006, 08:57 PM That look really good. I wouldn't change a thing. The springs will work in with a little wheelin. As for the body lift, I have a 2" and have always loved the extra roo under my hood. I also really like being able to tie up spare axles between the frame and the floor on one side and my spare driveline on the other side.
Snoopy 02-26-2006, 09:10 PM yes there is, the scout weekend is march 10-12
I couldn't have made it anyway ~ should be moving that weekend.
ihochad 02-27-2006, 09:49 AM Matt, The rig is fine Jeff and I ran it all the way up that spreader box and there was no tip at all. Is it going to have the longest legs out there? no... But it will twist up really nice and as long as you take it easy you are going to be just fine. You are right to not want to chop that thing up, it is really getting sweet. Everytime I see it or help Jeff with it I get jealous. I love those 6 cyl Scouts!!! I hope you enjoy it.
Sand73 02-27-2006, 05:33 PM are those your old springs painted black or are those new stock height springs?
Scouty 02-27-2006, 07:30 PM They are used springs painted black
Sand73 02-27-2006, 07:57 PM prepare for sagage
ihochad 02-28-2006, 09:12 AM prepare for sagage
Those springs came off of a V8 scout. Matts is a 6cyl half cab scout. I would think that they would have sagged all that they were going to in the 30 years of prior use. There was no re-arching done, so not sure why you would say they will sag???
Sand73 02-28-2006, 05:30 PM before he had a spring under... now he has a spring over....
spring overs are harsher to the springs, mine have some sag, just my experience with it
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