There are several ways to mount sliders, and I know there is an issue with frame flex. This is what I am going to do and kinda already started.


Built my sliders out of 1 5/8 schedule 80. Where the slider mounts to the frame, I welded on a flat piece of 4x4x1/4 plate to the slider, which I will drill 4 holes through for 1/2 bolts. These bolts will go completely through the frame.

On the frame, I have started welding on 7x4x1/4 plates on both sides of the frame where my three mouts will be.

How does that sound, and how much of a weld should I put on my plates that I am welding to the frame. I have heard that verticle welds are bad.

Two suggestions cut the plates like this / / or \ / or / \ or > < and put tubing through the frame welded on both sides. If no you will cave the frame in, believe me I know. I made a bracket that slips on the frame with one bolt on top. 3 clamps per side and they have not moved, requires a 1" BL. Like this even though this is not mine, solid as the rocks it has been slammed on.:D

If you're going bolt on, do what Oops said there, it works good. That's my slider he's showing, and although I haven't got to really bash on it, I can jump up and down on it or jack the truck up by it and it doesn't move at all.

I've got mine bolted on using a 3/4" bolt on the backside of the frame. The nut is welded on top so I don't have to worry about getting a wrench in there. The sliders were totally custom fit to my truck though. I don't know if they'd fit on another Nissan.

If you're doing all that welding anyway, why not just weld the sliders on??:confused:

Mine either bolt on to the outer face of the frame or drill and sleeve through the frame. Either way works fine:

http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4x4/ForSale/Docs/NerfBar_HowTo.shtml

Originally posted by 85TrailToy
If you're doing all that welding anyway, why not just weld the sliders on??:confused:

I don't like the idea of my sliders being a permanant attachment to my frame. What if I wanted to take my body lift off in the future, or need to get into someplace that my sliders were covering. What if I wanted to put a different slider on. The welding I was doing was to strengthen the frame so it would not crush the frame when I bolted it.

I think I am going to do the U thing and bolt it on, probably a little easier than what I am doing.

you can always cut em - do NOT bolt THROUGH the frame is my suggestion (unless you sleeve the frame) - it will squish it eventually (my crappy shittybilts did that)

Either bolt around the frame or weld em on..

http://www.off-road.com/toyota/reviews/jsm-nerfs/015.jpg

Originally posted by Brandon
you can always cut em - do NOT bolt THROUGH the frame is my suggestion (unless you sleeve the frame) - it will squish it eventually (my crappy shittybilts did that)

Either bolt around the frame or weld em on..



Which was why I was going to weld on a 1/4 7x4 plate on each side. Distribute the force over a very large area.

I'd still sleeve the frame, definately..

dude! when they said a green second generation 4runner fell off lions back i immediately started worrying:eek: :eek: :eek: then i heard it was ifs and i knew you were safe!:D :D :D are those people okay regardless?? do any of you utah folks got pix???????

You act like a welded on slider can't be ground back off and re-welded some other way if needed :p

You could spend hours trying to figure out some ingenouis way to make them bolt on, or just weld full height plates to the frame to spread the load, then weld the slider to that.

Mine are welded on, and I can guarantee I can have them off and back on again just as fast as anybody can have their bolt on ones off and back on :p

like drm said, besides youre gonna want to tie the exo cage your building for 'wrecking ball' into the sliders anyhow:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Blue tipped wrenches are faster than the traditional ones, eh DRM? :p

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DRM

You could spend hours trying to figure out some ingenouis way to make them bolt on, or just weld full height plates to the frame to spread the load, then weld the slider to that. Took about ten minutes to figure out my mount after I looked at Brandon’s!!!!


Mine are welded on, and I can guarantee I can have them off and back on again just as fast as anybody can have their bolt on ones off and back on :p

Took me about 2 minutes to take off both sides Sunday and about 5 to put them back on!!!! So I say you are full of it!!! But we all know that anyway!!!!!:D

The only way I will havean Exo Cage is in a full rock buggy that I wanted it chromed!!!!

Heres mine...It is a style based on OPPs slider....bolt over the top and I have a tube in between the top part so its tight but not crushing on the frame....based to hell and still looks super...

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"I'd still sleeve the frame, definately..."

Just weld 'em on...mine are...so far so good, but they've only been on a couple of months.

Here's another idea. Very easy to remove and strong as hell. They've been dragged over Undertaker and Pipebender at Paragon and haven't flinched abit.
http://hairbear65.homestead.com/files/nerfbar2.jpg
http://hairbear65.homestead.com/files/nerfbar1.jpg
http://hairbear65.homestead.com/files/tubeson2.jpg http://hairbear65.homestead.com/files/tomohshit3.jpg

I used 5/16" bolts. Just undo the boltsand slide the bars off.

Tom

OH DRM!! Anytime you wanna make a cash bet to see you get'ems off faster let me know. The hardest part of getting them off is bending down.:D :smokin:
tom

Originally posted by Booger Weldz
like drm said, besides youre gonna want to tie the exo cage your building for 'wrecking ball' into the sliders anyhow:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:


I kinda hope you are joking here. All I am going to have is sliders. If I am lucky, I will get a little rear protection too. Was up late last night finishing up my sliders and mouting. Now I just have to drill a 1/2" hole through at an 1" of steel some places more. Don't know if I will have enough time to build anything else by thursday.

ive never run these trails, but im sure youre gonna destroy some sheet metal with the departure angle on a second generation 4runner and no rear protection:p

my girlfriend is going with me now and she wants me to step down to a more 'tame' trail, otherwise shell be hiking most of it, so her nails dont dig into my dash... any suggestions and since we signed up for a limited number of entries can we switch runs??

Originally posted by Booger Weldz
my girlfriend is going with me now and she wants me to step down to a more 'tame' trail, otherwise shell be hiking most of it, so her nails dont dig into my dash... any suggestions and since we signed up for a limited number of entries can we switch runs?? Let her drive!!!!!

Originally posted by OPP'S
Let her drive!!!!!

thats one way to test the exo and my booooooger welds!!:flipoff2: :flipoff2: