: Is it Cage or Slider build time?????


Gravel Maker
03-04-2006, 11:53 PM
:D Check these out, just trying to make your day a little easier.....
http://ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/products/normal_all-3-single-flanges.jpghttp://ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/products/normal_all-4bolt-pieces-flanges.jpg

And how about these!:cool2:
http://ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/products/normal_2bolt-tube-flanges.jpghttp://ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_all-of-them.jpg

All designed for the strongest and safest Cage build possible, our tube Flanges are all .25" thick and so are our gussets, and remember, gussets aren't supposed to be all carved up in the middle, kind of defeats the purpose don't you think?

Think RuffStuff on this build and save enough to maybe buy that Atlas! Our prices don't go on sale, they don't have too!

Gravel Maker
03-07-2006, 12:35 AM
A by product from all the things we make. We have them from 3/16's to 3/8's thick and 1.25" to 2" in diameter. Good for making, fixing, reinforcing, lots of things, perhaps the best thing made since, well.....I don't know, most people love them, some people don't know what to think, haven't yey heard a complaint about them......

MUCHADO
03-07-2006, 03:48 AM
I wish I woulda bought some of those flanges when I built my EXO cage, that'd been great to have it removeable. One of my friends used those and they worked great!

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/PureFunction/FrostBiteRun005.jpg

Gravel Maker
03-08-2006, 02:27 PM
Crossmembers, Slider Mounts, really a ton of good uses, the square ones are more popular though.....

Gravel Maker
03-12-2006, 12:18 AM
Next Thursday or Friday, watch for them, some interesting kits with them too.....

Gravel Maker
03-14-2006, 12:48 AM
Welding is of course stronger but these are great when you have finally bashed your sliders beyond recognition and want to replace them easily. Or bumpers, or cages.....you know, whatever.

offroadman83
03-14-2006, 04:23 PM
How about some more pics of that cherokee Muchado------Kyle

35xj
03-15-2006, 07:27 PM
how about a price on those oval flanges for 1.5 tube. 4 sets shipped to 28801. thanks. dave

Gravel Maker
03-16-2006, 10:09 AM
We do not take orders here, all orders are taken from our website, look and see....

geberhard
03-16-2006, 10:33 AM
Nice!!

Gravel Maker
03-20-2006, 03:30 PM
Thanks Gui......More coming.....

Gravel Maker
04-01-2006, 10:50 AM
These 2.0" Square Hole Brackets are very handy for reinforcement of tube placement. If the tube is just welded to the frame it is strong but add one of these and it has some shear protection also. Made for weld on or bolt on use. Available now. Think Shock inboarding and Crossmembers....

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/products10/normal_square-weld.jpghttp://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/products10/normal_square-wholes.jpg

They are .25 thick like all of our brackets of this kind, 3/16" just dosen't provide enough surface to weld inside and out.

Gravel Maker
04-02-2006, 08:45 PM
We are not telling you it is better than 2" round DOM, but it is an inexpensive alternative, just use the .25 wall, in most parts of the country it is less than half the price of 2" .25" wall DOM. Combined with our Shock Brackets and Square Mounting Plates it makes for a very reasonably priced Shock Inboarding Kit. Usually under $50 total price! If DOM is what you really want the total would still be under $100.....

Gravel Maker
04-14-2006, 11:07 AM
And then compare price.....Always ask how thick is it? Always ask what type of steel is it made out of? Don't settle for less.

Gravel Maker
04-27-2006, 12:18 PM
Use a through hole flange and weld it inside and out for real shear protection.....A butt joint makes the weld take the punishment, a through hole flange allows you to weld it inside too, giving you Real Shear strength.

JohnC
04-27-2006, 03:52 PM
Do you have flanges for 1.5" square tubing?

Gravel Maker
04-27-2006, 11:05 PM
for square tubing that small. In many parts of the country suare tubing in that samll of a size isn't easy to come by with any wall thickness over .120, and even that can be hard to find. I do make the round flanges that small but square only in 2.0 because of the demand. If more people speak up about that size I might make it, but I do not now, Sorry.

Gravel Maker
05-06-2006, 09:22 PM
All of these are Hot sellers, seems we met some unmet demand here.....

Gravel Maker
05-06-2006, 10:34 PM
All of these are Hot sellers, seems we met some unmet demand here.....

Gravel Maker
05-17-2006, 10:36 AM
Watch for them......watch for our Diff cover drawing in the giveaways too, lets just say very tiny bikini......:smokin:

Jason M
05-19-2006, 10:53 PM
Watch for them......watch for our Diff cover drawing in the giveaways too, lets just say very tiny bikini......:smokin:
:D


Ge that FJ track bar mount made!!!!

I am gonna need one soon :D
Plus the shock mounts...

Gravel Maker
05-23-2006, 04:30 PM
Got some differing opinions about it here.....

Gravel Maker
06-04-2006, 10:41 PM
Plates are ready, camera man is away playing.....look for them tommorrow afternoon.....

Gravel Maker
06-22-2006, 02:31 PM
We are announcing these before the pics are ready because one of my competitors tried to make:shaking: an end run behind my back on 'em. They bought me out through one of the shops I supply before they were ready however I managed to keep a few for pics:smokin: and will post them tonite or tommorrow! Heres what you want to know.....

These are .25" thick, Laser cut for the factory mounting holes, with an Oval 1.75" hole cut in them so you can mount the Slider support tubes at a ~15 degree angle. They have rounded edges to eliminate catchpoints and are easy to use.

They come in a set of 8 for all of $38 thin American dollars......Pics tommorrow......You will know who when you see them, these are made in the US and when my competitor is out of the ones they bought behind my back we all know where the copied ones will come from..... I wonder if they can make the boatride without rusting?:laughing:

Gravel Maker
07-24-2006, 09:51 AM
The answer is, It is always Cage or Slider time!

Creepy196
07-25-2006, 12:14 PM
Hey Dan, have you started producing the offset 'dogleg' shackle plates we discussed in the International forum a while ago??? :grinpimp:

Gravel Maker
07-27-2006, 09:39 PM
Hey Dan, have you started producing the offset 'dogleg' shackle plates we discussed in the International forum a while ago??? :grinpimp:
We have made inroads to them but not to that extent of bend, we are testing a set with a 3/4" bend on a 6000lb vehicle now to see fi they will take the repeated impact without collapse, so far so good but they have been on only 3 weeks. Jeff @ IHOnly and I have been talking about those and they are still on the list, just trying to make sure they can hold up befpre we sell them.

Creepy196
07-28-2006, 03:17 AM
We have made inroads to them but not to that extent of bend, we are testing a set with a 3/4" bend on a 6000lb vehicle now to see fi they will take the repeated impact without collapse, so far so good but they have been on only 3 weeks. Jeff @ IHOnly and I have been talking about those and they are still on the list, just trying to make sure they can hold up befpre we sell them.

Cool. Thanks for the update. About the time you start producing them I'll be ready for a few sets!

The Toyota guys have been running similar plates for a while now. They're not carrying the weight we are though!:eek:

Thanks again for thinkin' of the Scout guys! :beer:

Gravel Maker
08-15-2006, 10:34 AM
I think its gotta be Cage time!

Brandon
08-24-2006, 10:02 AM
Hey Dan, have you started producing the offset 'dogleg' shackle plates we discussed in the International forum a while ago??? :grinpimp:


I see a 1/8" and 1/4" offset listed on his site :cool2:

Gravel Maker
08-25-2006, 09:34 AM
Didn't want to make them before we trusted the offset.....

Creepy196
08-25-2006, 11:47 AM
I see a 1/8" and 1/4" offset listed on his site :cool2:

I saw that too. We were talking about larger offsets than that. It's a start however, and brings us to:


The Major Offset Shackles are On the Way...

Didn't want to make them before we trusted the offset.....


Yea Baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :beer: :beer: :beer:

I'm off to check out the web site again... :grinpimp:

Brandon
08-25-2006, 10:40 PM
I've got nearly an INCH of stacked washers on ea side of my leaf spring - I could do with 3/4" offset. In the meantime I'll stick with my washers behind my 1/2" plate shackles :p

BTW, is your lengths listed hole to hole or entire shackle length or ?

Gravel Maker
08-26-2006, 12:31 PM
I've got nearly an INCH of stacked washers on ea side of my leaf spring - I could do with 3/4" offset. In the meantime I'll stick with my washers behind my 1/2" plate shackles :p

BTW, is your lengths listed hole to hole or entire shackle length or ?


Looking to expand the shackle lineup by next Friday, all of our shackles are completely smooth, no catch points for rocks to grab, all are 3/8" thick too! All lengths are hole center to hole center....

Gravel Maker
08-26-2006, 12:37 PM
Gussets. All of our gussets are pretty plain to look at. That is by design. By keeping our gussets plain we can sell them for less, lets face it, you need alot of gussets and the cost adds up! Our Gussets are priced from $3.25 to $3.75, we offer 5 varieties, 2 of them cutout for a quick rope attachment point.

Gravel Maker
09-08-2006, 10:14 AM
A by product from all the things we make. We have them from 3/16's to 3/8's thick and 1.25" to 2" in diameter. Good for making, fixing, reinforcing, lots of things, perhaps the best thing made since, well.....I don't know, most people love them, some people don't know what to think, haven't yey heard a complaint about them......

If you haven't noticed, we don't spend alot of money on the website, fancy websites don't come cheap, we like cheap, it allows us to keep prices low!:D

Gravel Maker
09-21-2006, 09:39 AM
Gussets. All of our gussets are pretty plain to look at. That is by design. By keeping our gussets plain we can sell them for less, lets face it, you need alot of gussets and the cost adds up! Our Gussets are priced from $3.25 to $3.75, we offer 5 varieties, 2 of them cutout for a quick rope attachment point.

We get that question all the time, "When will this sale end?" These are not sale prices, these are what prices were meant to be! And everything is made in the USA!

Gravel Maker
09-27-2006, 09:41 AM
We get that question all the time, "When will this sale end?" These are not sale prices, these are what prices were meant to be! And everything is made in the USA!


No reason to feel guilty about buying them! All of our products are made in the USA, EVERYTHING!

Gravel Maker
10-11-2006, 11:23 PM
And we put alot of things together (just to take them apart the next week), we discovered, with the help of an engineer I hire now and then as a consultant, that Cage Mounting plates need the hole in them for the tube. It just adds way too much strength not too, especially shear strength, what you need the most in the case of a violent roll.

When you weld these to the tubes put the tubes 2/3's of the way through the plates and weld them from the inside first, that's what adds the shear strength, anything else is just a butt joint and if you are on top looking at multiple rolls you want all the shear prevention you can get.

Think about it.

Gravel Maker
10-22-2006, 05:08 PM
its that simple, if it dosen't have a hole in it don't buy it if its for your roll cage. Period.....

Gravel Maker
11-13-2006, 09:49 AM
Its a pretty simple thing.....

Gravel Maker
11-18-2006, 11:32 AM
Check them out to make your life easier....

Gravel Maker
11-24-2006, 07:55 AM
Today or Monday...

Gravel Maker
12-06-2006, 09:07 PM
We just call this one the Big One, it is 4" on end but it is releived dramatically for the opening that needs strength AND easy access.....And it is expensive too! $5.75, not really expensive, just the most expensive we sell, just use these where you need the access....1/4" thick

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/images/big%20gusset.JPG

Gravel Maker
12-22-2006, 09:06 AM
Time to get on it.....

Gravel Maker
01-08-2007, 12:35 AM
Gussets, & Platforms to make this build the easy one.....Well, easier...

Gravel Maker
01-13-2007, 10:59 AM
We are always looking for more items to make......

Creepy196
01-14-2007, 04:59 PM
We are always looking for more items to make......


Major offset shackle plates!!! :flipoff2:


We have made inroads to them but not to that extent of bend, we are testing a set with a 3/4" bend on a 6000lb vehicle now to see fi they will take the repeated impact without collapse, so far so good but they have been on only 3 weeks. Jeff @ IHOnly and I have been talking about those and they are still on the list, just trying to make sure they can hold up befpre we sell them.


Got an update on the test mule? Inquiring minds... :grinpimp:

Gravel Maker
02-02-2007, 10:48 AM
To see if we could come to an agreement about just what offset we should go with, I am happy with the results on the prototypes we made and what they can take, so now we just need to decide what offset to go with, anu input?

Creepy196
02-10-2007, 04:44 PM
To see if we could come to an agreement about just what offset we should go with, I am happy with the results on the prototypes we made and what they can take, so now we just need to decide what offset to go with, anu input?

Well, you already have .125" and .250" offsets. .5" and .75" would be a good start. Would 1.0" be doable?

Gravel Maker
03-10-2007, 06:15 AM
All of our Mounting plates are made to make your work faster, stronger, & easier....check them out.

Gravel Maker
03-10-2007, 06:17 AM
Well, you already have .125" and .250" offsets. .5" and .75" would be a good start. Would 1.0" be doable?

If you are using the stock springs I think you are asking for about 1 5/8" or 1 3/4"......

Gravel Maker
04-01-2007, 09:58 PM
Time to get cracking! The Con will likely open early and then close early due to an extreme fire danger because we had minimal snow this year so get'er done now! While you still have the time.....

Gravel Maker
05-01-2007, 01:28 PM
And the snow is going fast, get that cage done!

Gravel Maker
05-08-2007, 12:05 AM
I think they are cool too but keep them to a minimum and stay solid where you need them the most, always at the critical points use solid gussets for safety.......and don't use those punched 1/8" gussets unless they are chromoly......

http://ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_all-of-them.jpg

Looks are not everything or you would be at the mall, strength is where its at!

Gravel Maker
05-14-2007, 09:04 AM
Triangulation is the answer and reinforcement at all major openings.......And a cage is just pretty until it is tied into the frame......

geberhard
05-21-2007, 02:56 PM
Dan!!


Thank you so much again for the great service, awesome product and extremely quick turnaround!!! I could not believe when I got home from work having a RuffStuff package waiting at the door the day right after I ordered! You are getting me spoiled :D

Thanks again!!

Gui

Gravel Maker
05-27-2007, 08:46 PM
We try...

Gravel Maker
06-17-2007, 07:41 PM
Watch for them!

Gravel Maker
07-06-2007, 04:07 PM
I was asked why we put a hole in our Mounting plates? Wouldn't it be easier to just make 1 plate and butt weld any size tube to it?

Pretty simple answer, shear protection. If a butt weld were used and you get into a multiple roll the butt weld is weaker, in violent roll situation you want the addiitional shear strength of these plates. Weld them inside and out, do it right the first time, if your cage fails there may not be a second time.....

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/products9/normal_xmemberends.jpg

Gravel Maker
09-13-2007, 07:46 PM
Time to get something done while you are locked down......

Gravel Maker
10-01-2007, 09:52 AM
I was asked why we put a hole in our Mounting plates? Wouldn't it be easier to just make 1 plate and butt weld any size tube to it?

Pretty simple answer, shear protection. If a butt weld were used and you get into a multiple roll the butt weld is weaker, in violent roll situation you want the addiitional shear strength of these plates. Weld them inside and out, do it right the first time, if your cage fails there may not be a second time.....

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/products9/normal_xmemberends.jpg


Keep this in mind when building!

geberhard
10-01-2007, 11:03 AM
Dan, time to start working on a rear mini cage for the car seat :) Will definitely be using your hardware, so will touch bas as soon as I have a design in mind.

By the way, finished the 14 bolt disc convo with your brackets, came out extremely clean, thansk again for a killer product!

Gravel Maker
10-07-2007, 09:18 PM
Dan, time to start working on a rear mini cage for the car seat :) Will definitely be using your hardware, so will touch bas as soon as I have a design in mind.

By the way, finished the 14 bolt disc convo with your brackets, came out extremely clean, thansk again for a killer product!

Gotta love the carseat cage idea!

Gravel Maker
10-18-2007, 11:18 AM
Your butt depends on it......

Gravel Maker
10-24-2007, 11:37 AM
Your butt depends on it......

Depend on a butt weld! I couldn't help myself on that one:D

Gravel Maker
11-18-2007, 12:18 AM
Time to get that new cage or slider set mounted and mounted right!

Gravel Maker
11-23-2007, 09:13 AM
Now is the time to start the next build!

Gravel Maker
12-09-2007, 01:30 PM
Now is the time to start the next build!


Previous owner did wrong......:p

Gravel Maker
12-14-2007, 11:59 PM
Stocking stuffers! Or give them to your mother as holiday coasters and when she isn't looking......

Gravel Maker
12-31-2007, 01:28 AM
But today is the last day......do it now!

Arya Ebrahimi
01-06-2008, 04:37 PM
Any chance you could make the 2-bolt oval flanges for 1.75" tube in 3/16" or 1/8"?? Working on a race car and the entire car's chassis is made of 16GA 1x1 square tube. a 1/4" flange would be a bit overkill in this case ;)

Let me know, ready to order today.

Gravel Maker
02-10-2008, 08:53 PM
I missed your question, we don't make them in thinner proportions but we may in the future, for now thick is strong!

BTW, I knew you weren't stupid Richard, just a little slow, even you can see the light and learn something!

ridgerunner67
02-27-2008, 06:34 PM
i need a sport bar for a cj with the side bars that run to the stock roll bar. do you do these? if so how much$? thank you!

Gravel Maker
04-11-2008, 09:05 PM
We do not do tube work simply due to the high cost of shipping tube, however if someone asks me who to go to I always say Zach at AtoZ Fabrication.....

Brad
04-13-2008, 12:52 PM
Dan's stuff speeds up most of my jobs. The only parts of his that dont are...........the ones he hasnt thought up or had made yet. :laughing: I Need Jeep B pillar plates :laughing:

Gravel Maker
06-16-2008, 10:41 AM
Bring that one by if you can......And call me

Gravel Maker
08-22-2008, 04:56 PM
Build it, its your a**!

Gravel Maker
10-12-2008, 11:27 AM
And most of these are on a big sale! 40-45% off!

Gravel Maker
10-31-2008, 09:26 AM
I always end up doing tube work in the rain, time to think of these.....