The "new to me" 2k F250 I just got has 4.30 gears, and stock 265/76 16 tires on it...

Well, as a result with the V10 the rpm's are way high on the interstate and mileage sucks :(

Anyone towed with the new TruXus tires yet? 10 ply sidewall, nice looking tire, VERY reasonably priced... Sure makes them appealing :cool2:

I know I have seen comments from people who run them on DD's and maybe some trail use, but am looking more specifically at use on a large tow type rig...

Also, anyone know what the largest tire that will fit under a stock 2k F250 4x4 is? I was looking online and am thinking a 285/75 16's will fit under there nicely, but am wondering if that will still not e big enough to offset the 4.30's like I want....

If not able to fit under there with stock suspension - what about mild lifts and the equivilent of a 35 maybe?

you can get 305's to fit with a front leveling kit. which is basically a front add a leaf. with the gears you have it seems like 315 (35" ) would be the ticket.

i have a ranho 4" kit sitting in my driveway just waiting to be put on my f350 and it will clear the 35's

fyi. i plan on towing a 40 to 45 5th wheel enclosed trailer loaded to the max.

i am afraid to give it to ya but oh well. www.ford-deisel.com all the info ya ever wanted to know and alot you don't. *warning* they are kinda sensitive over there. kinda the JU of the diesel world :D

Camo, thanks... I was scared to venture over there figuring my V10 would cause a meltdown :p

About leveling kits - my truck looks awful level as it is... So a leveling kit may leave it nose high :confused:

I will measure later and see if it is as level as I think it is...

The problem with leveling kits are that they make you nose high when you are fully loaded.

You can run up to a 315 75 R 16 on an Superduty (4x4) you can either shim the bumper out with washers, buy a bumper extend-a-kit or just grind the front bumper a bit. Fits nicely, easy to get a cabover in it still and will be more stable on roads..


I have been looking at the Trux's as well. Just wondering how long they will last... I know the MTR's probably will only have about 15K life in them...

Is it just me, or does www.ford-deisel.com not work? :confused:

Originally posted by DRM
Camo, thanks... I was scared to venture over there figuring my V10 would cause a meltdown :p

About leveling kits - my truck looks awful level as it is... So a leveling kit may leave it nose high :confused:

I will measure later and see if it is as level as I think it is...

www.ford-diesel.com actually has a gas guzzler...um, I mean V10 section. But, I think it's mostly just people wishing they'd got the PSD :flipoff2:

Originally posted by DRM
Is it just me, or does www.ford-deisel.com not work? :confused:

You're spelling DIESEL wrong

Try spelling it correctly: www.ford-diesel.com

there goes my lysdexia kicking in again :p

sorry i am a retard http://forums.ford-diesel.com/ubbthreads/


yup they have a gas section. kinda a redheaded step child but they do have it. :D

who cares if it nose high when fully loaded? first off how often do you fully load your rig? second, get some air bags. third i would rather be nose high once in a while then stink bug all the time. just my reasoning. but as you know i am retarded

Uh, oh.... do you think they are ready? 'cause DRM just registered for yet ANOTHER BBS :D

lol

20873 Registered User(s). Welcome to our newest member, DRM!

Originally posted by DRM
The "new to me" blah blah blah

tow rig and lift shouldn't be used in the same sentence.

I think the kit that levels out just the front w/o doing anything to the rear is more meant for the F350. The early '99 F350's sat level, and then they dropped the nose about 2" 'cause all those fat old farmers were bitching about how tough it was to climb in. But, I don't think the F250 has the droopy nose as much because it doesn't have the same rear spring pack as the F350.

I know two guys who did some form of leveling kits to run 35-36" rubber on the stock 7" rims. One's an F350 on 305/85R16 Coyote radials, the other has 315/75R16 BFG MT's. Not sure if the guy on BFG's has an F250 or F350. I'll try to get a pick of the guy's truck on 315/75's. It looks really nice - for a Ford :p A couple other guys did full-on lifts to fit 35X12.50/16.5's. Neither of those trucks looks very good - one has a 6" lift & it looks terrible IMO.

The one on this page has a 4" lift I think & definitely 35X12.50/16.5's. Not as bad as the one with the 6" lift, but not as nice as the ones on leveling kits & 315/75's.

http://mmor.com/MembersRigspg4.htm



TEX

Originally posted by Aggro


tow rig and lift shouldn't be used in the same sentence.

your a pussy. been towing trailers all my lfe with lifted rigs.

hell even my wifes expedition is lifted 4" and i tow my 7K pound trail all over the country with it. i works fine.

Originally posted by camo


your a pussy. been towing trailers all my lfe with lifted rigs.

hell even my wifes expedition is lifted 4" and i tow my 7K pound trail all over the country with it. i works fine.

The superduty that is on that page I linked belongs to a guy I've known for a long time. Every so often, he gets sick of towing with a lifted truck & goes back to a stocker. But, he just can't help himself. Pretty soon, it's got 33's, then 35's, then 36's, then he gets sick of it & starts all over :D


TEX

You can fit the 305's with out the kit and it will not rub. My buddy has a 99 F250 super cab with the PSD, and we have used it to tow an 84 toyota xtra cab, 86 toy reg cab, and an FJ62 to SC ( not all at the same time :rolleyes: ) and back to PA. It towed great with the 305's and they looook great too. Get the 305's

Bosslady has a 2000 PSD, crew cab, short box, F-250. Leveling kit and two more inches fit 295's beautifully. She hooks up to a 4 horse gooseneck trailer and it only squats an inch, maybe two.

Originally posted by camo


your a pussy. been towing trailers all my lfe with lifted rigs.

hell even my wifes expedition is lifted 4" and i tow my 7K pound trail all over the country with it. i works fine.

Your a smart guy so I assume you have thought about this but if you lift your Super Duty will you be able to tow a 5th wheel without the trailer hitting the back corners of the bed when turning. My pop is a 5th wheel trailer guy (him and mom are retired and currently living the traveling life). He was telling me that some guys buying the 4x4's for towing large 5th wheels are actually having to lower the trucks so that the hitch mates up correctly and so that the trailer doesn't hit the back bed corners. Like I said your a smart guy and you have probably already come up with some trick setup to over come this. Of course it also depends on the type of 5th wheel your looking at.

Originally posted by DRM

Well, as a result with the V10 the rpm's are way high on the interstate and mileage sucks :(
...I was looking online and am thinking a 285/75 16's will fit under there nicely, but am wondering if that will still not e big enough to offset the 4.30's like I want....

Now that we've discussed all the options, do some math. What RPM's are you turning NOW at "highway speeds" and what do you WANT to turn? Just slow down until you find an RPM level that you like & do the math to figure out what size tire you need to get that RPM at the speed you want to drive.

BTW, in the end, your mileage is still gonna SUCK, but at least the revs will be where you want & the truck will look better than it does on 265's :)


TEX

Originally posted by Priest


Your a smart guy so I assume you have thought about this but if you lift your Super Duty will you be able to tow a 5th wheel without the trailer hitting the back corners of the bed when turning. My pop is a 5th wheel trailer guy (him and mom are retired and currently living the traveling life). He was telling me that some guys buying the 4x4's for towing large 5th wheels are actually having to lower the trucks so that the hitch mates up correctly and so that the trailer doesn't hit the back bed corners. Like I said your a smart guy and you have probably already come up with some trick setup to over come this. Of course it also depends on the type of 5th wheel your looking at.

You goober - the OBVIOUS answer is larger tires on the trailer :rolleyes:

Originally posted by DRM


You goober - the OBVIOUS answer is larger tires on the trailer :rolleyes:

Gotta do a spring-over. I pass one like that on my way to work every day :)

TEX

Originally posted by DRM


You goober - the OBVIOUS answer is larger tires on the trailer :rolleyes:

That goes without saying...it's just a matter of how much time and money you have to do some engineering.

Originally posted by TEX


Now that we've discussed all the options, do some math. What RPM's are you turning NOW at "highway speeds" and what do you WANT to turn? Just slow down until you find an RPM level that you like & do the math to figure out what size tire you need to get that RPM at the speed you want to drive.

BTW, in the end, your mileage is still gonna SUCK, but at least the revs will be where you want & the truck will look better than it does on 265's :)


TEX

With the 99 2wd and 3.73's I was running about perfect for the V10 (IMHO of course) with about 2100 prm's @ 70 mph.

Just a guess from the drive to work this morning in the 2k 4wd and 4.30's it is running closer to 2600 rpm's @ 70 mph.

I will check for sure tonight on the drive home (won't be until around 10:30) and post back with the actual rpm's @ 70 mph in this truck.

And honestly - I do not want to lift it, I just want a little taller tire to fit my needs.


BTW - TEX, what kind of mileage are you getting in your gas HD?

On average, similar driving, mainly interstate - the old V10 was getting me 13 mpg, and it looks like this one is turning out somehwere between 10-11 mpg. I would guess the drop is mainly due to aerodynamics (the 2wd was nice & low) and somewhat to the added weight of the larger cab, Tcase, and front axle....

Originally posted by DRM

BTW - TEX, what kind of mileage are you getting in your gas HD?


2002 2500HD GMC 4wd, 6.0L V8, 245/75R16's, 4.10's, 4L80E. Getting 13 on the highway, 12.5 putt-putting around on back roads.

No real tows of any account yet, so I can't report on what happens to the mileage when I tow. I'll eventually be going to 255/85R16's, though I think the RPM's are just about perfect now for towing. They ARE a bit high for DD duties, but I really don't do much of that with the truck.

TEX

yup...spring over. just lift the trailer :D

besides making it line up with the truck it will also keep the ass ended from dragging when i tow it throgh the desert and off road.

Originally posted by camo


your a pussy. been towing trailers all my lfe with lifted rigs.

hell even my wifes expedition is lifted 4" and i tow my 7K pound trail all over the country with it. i works fine.

I expected a more intelligent response than that. I'm bloody, come and like me! It's a matter of convinience for me. I prefer the ease of getting gear,myself, etc... in and out. But then again I use my trucks as such, not just neato looking kids trucks, lifted to the sky, with big fancy chrome stuffs on them. I haul 6klbs regularly, how often do you do that with your coolio lifted truck? Not on a trailer. I may be a pussy, but I don't have to lift cords of firewood, palletes of concrete, or boulders into my gay ass lifted rig. If you're so convinced you're not a pussy, go put spools front and rear into your daily drivers. It's about using your rig however you use it, or don't.

I *think* camo is meaning Gooseneck trailer, those tow fine on Lifted rigs

Originally posted by Aggro
If you're so convinced you're not a pussy, go put spools front and rear into your daily drivers.

Not me! I'm a mud guy, gotta have an OPEN frontend :D

Oh & Welndmn I *think* you're right about the gooseneck.

TEX

Originally posted by welndmn
I *think* camo is meaning Gooseneck trailer, those tow fine on Lifted rigs

Yeah, your right.


goose neck trailer + lifted tow rig = good

5th Wheel Trailer + lifited tow rig = bad

Originally posted by TEX


Now that we've discussed all the options, do some math. What RPM's are you turning NOW at "highway speeds" and what do you WANT to turn?

TEX

FWIW, my 2wd tow rig sports 4.30 gears and 235/85-16s.

3000rpm is around 65mph - just right, IMHO.

Sure pulls well. 3500rpm is 75mph, so there's still enough Rs left should I really feel the urge to pass.

Averages about 10mpg loaded or empty. :D

aggro quite being so aggro. it was supposed to be funny. i guess i forgot the :flipoff2:


answer to your question. i never load that much in my bed. i mainly tow trailers. i don't put firewood in my bed cause i have a nice low dump bed trail to make my life easer. :D my rig won't fit in my bed. i have a enclosed motorcycle trailer and i don't have a slide in camper because they don't make them 45' long. so all i ever really throw in the bed is misc crap. and if i really wanted to prove i was a tough guy i would not run a spool in my daily driver because they are great on the street i woud put a detroit and deal with the terrible backlash, the banging when they unlock, and the sudden lane changes when they unlock going down the highway. oh wait a second i do have a detroit in my DD :flpoff2:

Originally posted by TEX


Now that we've discussed all the options, do some math. What RPM's are you turning NOW at "highway speeds" and what do you WANT to turn? Just slow down until you find an RPM level that you like...

Thats the dumbest idea I've ever heard. :flipoff2: (Then I read the rest of the sentence). :flipoff2:

I've got 255/85R16s and 3.54 gears in the DD/tow rig, and wish I had another overdrive (ie US Gear) everytime I get out on the highway. Of course a Ferd V10 or even a PSD likes a little more RPMs.

Pete

Got the specifics on Bosslady's truck. Bossman likes the lifted stuff. The first thing he looks at when he is buying a rig is what it's gonna cost him to lift it. She took over and said "I don't want a monster truck. I don't wanna have to climb that far up to hook up my gooseneck." He couldn't stand it, so he had to put bigger tires on it.
He went with new springs on the front from Pro-Comp. 2" leveling kit. Then he put an add a leaf in the rear cause the front sat too high after the kit. Brand new weld wheels that look a little bit like the Boyds Camo was looking at. The ones with the round holes. He fit 295/75/R16's on it and said if the lift was even a half inch lower, they would have hit in the front. The truck now has 5000 miles on it and the springs don't look like they have settled any. That's with hauling around 11,000 pounds of gooseneck trailer with three horses in it.




The 5th wheel spring over trick? The RV dealers had to do alot of that when Dodge switched body styles. They sat too high for the hitch to line up.

Lets see: 4.30/3.73=1.15, 1.15x265=305, so 305/75/16 would take you back to your 2wd speed vs. RPM scenerio. How about some Michelin Military 9.00x16 - Tall and skinny, excellent wear. I believe that the dealer can reset your seped sensor with the previous scan tool. The 2wd came with 235/85/16?? which are about the same outside diameter as the 265/75/16 on the 4wd. I can only dream about gears as high as 4.30 - mine has 4.88.

Originally posted by jasonmt
Lets see: 4.30/3.73=1.15, 1.15x265=305, so 305/75/16 would take you back to your 2wd speed vs. RPM scenerio. How about some Michelin Military 9.00x16 - Tall and skinny, excellent wear. I believe that the dealer can reset your seped sensor with the previous scan tool. The 2wd came with 235/85/16?? which are about the same outside diameter as the 265/75/16 on the 4wd. I can only dream about gears as high as 4.30 - mine has 4.88.

Unless the 2wd came with something smaller. And yeah, for me I kind of wish I had 4.30's or even 4.56's instead of 4.10's for when I switch over to the 255/85's. I usually only go about 65 when towing, so I need a little more gear to keep the RPM's up.

TEX

Originally posted by DRM
The "new to me" 2k F250 I just got has 4.30 gears, and stock 265/76 16 tires on it...

Well, as a result with the V10 the rpm's are way high on the interstate and mileage sucks :(


Perfect solution: send me your 4:30's and I'll send you the 3.73's out of my '00 PSD F250 and I'll be able to keep my 35's!!!!!

Originally posted by rockota


Perfect solution: send me your 4:30's and I'll send you the 3.73's out of my '00 PSD F250 and I'll be able to keep my 35's!!!!!

I'll have to pass :p

Originally posted by DRM


I'll have to pass :p

So close.... yet so far... :D :D

Hey David , I drive a 99' superduty f-350 w/ a v- 10 and 4.30 gears . It is 4wd and an auto , I have added 285/75/16 tires and
they seem to drop the rpm a lil' on the highway . When a few more miles are on the ticker it'll get a bit better . I have gotten as
good as 15 mpg on highway and as low as 5 mph when towing an
overloaded gooseneck to Cali and back . But I have to agree w/ the others , a larger tire on a big truck would be more asthetic !
Just this newbies .02 worth . Are you serious about leading a ride
here in the summer for the Pirate bunch ? Please keep the Trailrunners abreast on this ride , I would be interested in riding
as well as a few others . :flipoff2:

Well, last year when I brought it up to some of the MTTR members they freaked out about it... I figure I will approach again soon and see what I can work out....

Thanks for the tips on the tires - I think that is the size I will go with :)