my scout ii has seen better days, and so has most of it's drive train. My question is (since I can't search for it) will a modern axles, engine, tranny, transfer fit under a scout ii? I rolled my 97 grand cherokee the all the drive train works excpet the top is caved in, Could I put the dana 44 and 35 under the scout, move the 3 link set up over to the scout, the 318 v8 and the all time 4x4 of the transfer case?

If this would work it would give my scout a great increase in usability, fuel injection, better brakes (4 wheel disk) and a bit lighter load from the stock tranny and engine.

I have several scouts so this would be done to one that has a busted engine and tranny already in it. I've read lots of threads about coil springs and scouts, but don't know if a grand cherokee spring kit would fit. IF this works I would also use most of the leather interior, sound system, and consol to make a more luxurious model.

The use of the scout ii would mainly be Arkansas trails and lots of mud, very minimum rock crawling. Most of my scouts usually run 33's in the past...will the stock jeep tranny and axles be able to take 33 or 36's?

Thanks for the help,

Jason

I dunno what to say here..

Do it and post pics

Seriously - I think you'd be better off cutting the Jeep up into a truggy.

To do all that work and end up with a set of GC axles under it.... Silly in my opinion.

Problem with wheeling a GC is that with the unibody they eventually tear themselves apart. However they are great rigs till that point.


If I had your parts available (and more time, but thats a different issue :)) I'd swap the drivetrain out first (motor, tranny, t-case). Stick it into a decent scout body and chassis and get it all running and working good. Doing any of the mods (SYE or t-case upgrade/doubler what ever) to get a nice, solid, reliable drive-train in place.

Then play with it and find your weaknesses in the rest of the running gear. The Scout's D44 rear is a better choice than the GC's D35... unless the D35 is in the front... I really don't know the axles in GC's very well. If the t-case lines up (I think they are drive's drop, correct?? then they wouldn't), I'd stick with the Scout 44's, of not, swap the t-case or swap the front axle as necessary to get things to line up.

Basically I'd get it running and "nice" before I tore it down again to swap in coils, links etc. Take the project in small steps to avoid getting bogged down and having is sit..

The d35 is in front, and d44 in back. I would take baby steps, but the scouts I am talking about have been sitting in a pasture for about 5 years...One that I want to fix has a decent 345 in it and manual tranny. with 4:55 in the drivetrain. So it is a decent one, the one I wou ld propose this goes on is I have a body and frame (tore axles out to put on another, engine blew up, and tranny blew) body is in good shape, its a 1980's model :) I know if I converted the arms over to Longarm suspension and mabie a 4 link in rear it would really flex and ride better!, hell I could even use the stock sway bars from the jeep.

Keep the ideas comming, thanks

if you have to ask, you should not do it.

if you have to ask, you should not do it.
AMEN!!!!

I think you'd have a lot of work to do to make it all come together.

Exactly what do you want to do with this truck? dedicated trail rig, daily driver, somewhere in between?

Forget about that ZJ 44. It is teh suck. C-clips and only one locker available for it.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=419029&highlight=d44a

I say go for it. Why the hell not? You've got nothing to lose but some time, you've already got all the parts. May as well take 2 unusable vehicles and make 1 usable one.

How bout a reliable trail rig. I have no extra engines lying around for this straight body, so why not, I'm guessing most all will fit with some minor mods. LIke getting the shifter to come up in the right place, engine placement, and suspension setup. everything else is chrysler and should do it's thing. Well, I may tinker with it, I'll take some pics if I decide to tackle this and let you all know if it is going to work out. Sound good? Never know till you try right?

How bout a reliable trail rig. I have no extra engines lying around for this straight body, so why not, I'm guessing most all will fit with some minor mods. LIke getting the shifter to come up in the right place, engine placement, and suspension setup. everything else is chrysler and should do it's thing. Well, I may tinker with it, I'll take some pics if I decide to tackle this and let you all know if it is going to work out. Sound good? Never know till you try right?

What the hell did you just say???

if you have to ask, you should not do it.

I think he is looking for opinions guys, should I put the drive train on the scout or the scout on the drive train....and he is relying on your intel...wow now thats scary:flipoff2:

What the hell did you just say???

I read it twice and I keep getting this picture in my head of when Homer tried to fix the toaster and ended up with a time machine.:rolleyes:

I read it twice and I keep getting this picture in my head of when Homer tried to fix the toaster and ended up with a time machine.:rolleyes:

Or installing a urinal in the garage by nailing it to the wall.

I have a funny feeling that this is gonna be in the classifieds about 3 years from now " Finish my project... got in over my head... needs chrysler wiring harness cuz I hacked this one... Transfer case is on the wrong side..." part the GC, find a free IH motor, put your money into the Scout. Your only gonna run 33's anyway:shaking:

Or installing a urinal in the garage by nailing it to the wall.
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Sweet Idea!!! That would work - I could even sawzall a hole behind it and let it drain outside!

Thanks Dan - you've made this thread worth reading!

Sometime I feel like newbies are getting newer and dumber ever day. When I showed up around here I couldn't have possibly been this dumb or posted this stupid of crap -- Or did I... :confused: Man I hope not.

I feel like I just got done reading a set of Korean VCR instructions for some reason......

:confused:

I'm guessing most all will fit with some minor mods.

This is where your going to run into trouble. You better plan on it being major mods and be able to do those mods in order to have a chance of ever getting it done. I personally would not bother to swap in either of those axles, thier not worth the trouble. If your scout just needs a engine then just swap the engine along with the trans and T case to make it work. If the T case is dropped on the wrong side then find a different axle to swap in the front like maybe a ford 44. Don't even bother with any of the suspension stuff. It won't fit easily and making it fit isn't worth the effort.

Like I said, leave the stock suspension as it is and just work on getting the engine in and driving.

You probably have that crappy 249 tcase. Swap it out for a 242 or 231, then swap in a hi pinion Ford 44 front. SII 44 in the rear and add disc brakes if you think you have to have them.

By the way, ZJs don't have a 3 link. It is a 4 link with a panhard.

I say go for it. Why the hell not? You've got nothing to lose but some time, you've already got all the parts. May as well take 2 unusable vehicles and make 1 usable one.

Or is it take 2 unusable vehicles and make just 1 unusable one and a pile of parts! :laughing: :rolleyes:

Jclaudii, if you just have to have the modern drivetrain I guess you could shove the GC drivetrain in there. It sure doesn't sound like you are being very realistic about the amount of effort required to do what you're proposing when you say things like, "It should all just swap over really easy with minor modifications, right?" and what not. Heck, maybe the GC headliner and door padding and electric windows will just swap straight over too, huh? Come on, that just isn't the way it's going to go down, buddy. Like has already been said, if you're asking opinions about this kind of thing, you're probably not even the kind of person that would really pull it off anyway.

I'm not like personally against you or anything, just trying to knock some sense in to you. I really think UglyScout had it right in suggesting you just cut the top off the damn thing and make it into a truggy and go from there with that one (the GC). As for the Scout, IH engines aren't usually too hard to come by and don't take much money to get in there and going halfway decent again by comparison. Good luck to you anyhow. :beer: :thumbsup::shaking: