Here are the part numbers for the full hydro setup I'm going to be using on the trail beast (front D60). Just thought some of you might want to know. If you don't then :flipoff2:

Steering unit:
Danfoss
OSPB 100 ON
150-0027
060C4025
(all three of the above numbers were listed on the unit - I am not sure
which one is the part number)

Cylinder:
Chief (single ended cylinder)
2500psi
2"bore x 8"stroke
P/N: 2141028

So, how about prices too BeeRectum :p

And maybe list what store you bought the stuff from.....

You bunch of :crybaby:

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They are from Bailey's Hydraulics in Knoxville, TN. So that probably won't help any of you! I'm having the custom lines made at Turner Hydraulics in Maryville, TN.

BUT - you can take those part numbers to any local hydro shop and check prices. Hell - you boys have phones right? Call around :D

The orbit valve was around $350, and I think the cylinder was around $50. But I might be wrong on the cylinder.

ok david I am "chiming in " with out being called..The cylinder can be purchased at Tractor Supply Compamy( TSC) for 58.99 for 2x8 cylinder and the 2 1/2 inch x8 is 62.99..Lines can be made at any 'real" auto parts stores like Napa..Actually, TSC sells plenty of lines and you could probably make theirs work. As for valves, you can buy the following valves new at the following places:
Northern Tool and equipment( www. NorthernTool.com):
Danfoss Ospb steering unit without tower that is non reactive:
201650-c161 3.0 cubic inches,264.99
201651-c161 4.8 cubic inches 268.99
201652-c161 6.0 cu inches 269.99
201652-c161 7.6 cu inches 272.99
201652-c161 9.7 cu inches 2.79.99
( the larger the cubic inches the more fluid it flows)
tower(the part with the shaft t mate to your steering shaft is part number 201662-c161 37.99

or from Surplus center (1-800-488-3407) you have the following choices for valves:
Charlyn Valves: 4-8 gallons per minute:
9-1880 model number 211-1001 341.50
9-5170 " " 211-1007 343.50
9-1881 211-1008 347.50
9-1882 211-1010 359.50
9-1883 211-1011 382.50
9-1884 211-1012 395.50
9-4263 241-1002 319.50
9-5365 241-1005 299.50
8-16 gallons per minute
9-1801 211-1167 409.50
9-5191 213-1013 299.50
9-1802 211-1177 449.50
9-1803 211-1178 469.50
9-1804 211-1160 499.50
9-1805 211-1179 569.50
tower for charyln valve: 9-1885 49.50
Load sensing charlyn valve:
item number 9-5248 , model number 253-3025, 25 gallons per minute. price 489.50

Von ruden Steering valves:
for steering application without load sensing or return to center.
item number 9-5481 203.95
9-5481-b 217.95
9-5481-c 228.95
9-5481-d 234.95
9-5481-e 238.95.

LOAD SENSING (RETURN TO CENTER) Danfoss
ite, number 9-5479 249.50.
Also SUrplus center has at least a 100 to 150 different cylinders with every imaginable stroke and bore as well as double ended..way to many to list.
Hope this helps out guys.:D

Be careful looking at the big volumn valves, it requires a big pump, not a power steering pump.

I have determined : ) that load sensing has nothing to do with return to center, it is used in systems that have other hydraulic systems (like a forktruck or loader), so that steering is not reduced when using another cylinder.
"Return to center" comes from a "reactive" valve and the caster is allowed to turn the valve backwards by letting the cylinder push oil back thru the valve if you let go of the strg. wheel.
If this is wrong, I'll need to see a link that spells it out.

Whew.... saved me sending out the "Brian Bat Signal" into the night sky :p

Thanks man :D

Originally posted by dirtrod
Be careful looking at the big volumn valves, it requires a big pump, not a power steering pump.

I have determined : ) that load sensing has nothing to do with return to center, it is used in systems that have other hydraulic systems (like a forktruck or loader), so that steering is not reduced when using another cylinder.
"Return to center" comes from a "reactive" valve and the caster is allowed to turn the valve backwards by letting the cylinder push oil back thru the valve if you let go of the strg. wheel.
If this is wrong, I'll need to see a link that spells it out.

ummm...load sensing means "reactive" hence non-load sensing equals does not return to center. In my catalog it planely states...." Non -load reaction allows wheels to remained turned without holding steering wheel." "The load sensing valve brings wheels back to center." ....not saying this is the gospel..just what is stated in the hydraulic catalog I have...and ditto and being careful on the larger unit that flow more GPM:D

onetonwillysands10,

do you know anything about the charlynn 241-1093-002? would this be a good valve to start with? thanks

Originally posted by onetonwillysands10


ummm...load sensing means "reactive" hence non-load sensing equals does not return to center. In my catalog it planely states...." Non -load reaction allows wheels to remained turned without holding steering wheel." "The load sensing valve brings wheels back to center." ....not saying this is the gospel..just what is stated in the hydraulic catalog I have...and ditto and being careful on the larger unit that flow more GPM:D

Willy, load sensing is different than reactive/non-reactive, a totally different sub-system.
I'm looking at surplus centers catalog right now...I see the words " Non -load reaction allows wheels to remained turned without holding steering wheel."
I Don't see anything that says "The load sensing valve brings wheels back to center." .... Ummmmm ?
I don't give a rats rump either way for myself, but I think there is some mis-information going around. I did do a little research on this.
According to the Danfoss site, Load-reaction or reactive valves can be returned to center by a load on the cylinder (caster)...non-load reactive must be returned by the steering wheel....Not a direct quote...

Originally posted by dirtrod


Willy, load sensing is different than reactive/non-reactive, a totally different sub-system.
I'm looking at surplus centers catalog right now...I see the words " Non -load reaction allows wheels to remained turned without holding steering wheel."
I Don't see anything that says "The load sensing valve brings wheels back to center." .... Ummmmm ?
According to the Danfoss site, Load-reaction or reactive valves can be returned to center by a load on the cylinder (caster)...non-load reactive must be returned by the steering wheel....Not a direct quote...

My catalog came from a heavy equipment dealership who services heavy equipment that these valves are on. To be honest they have written in by hand the part about load sensing in the catalog returning the steering wheel to center above the charyln valve that is load sensing..But, like I said I am not suggesting it is the absolute truth. Just what happens to be in my catalog and since it came from a mechanic who works on these things I figured it would be right;but, you never know. I agree that there is a lot of misinformation and it is hard to get a straight answer ...as an example you an get a non load reaction valve that is load sensing or load sensing and load reacting...truely it really does not matter if the steering wheel returns to center for trail use...I mean think about it. Do you let go off the steering wheel after making a turn and wait for the steering wheel to return to center...I have noticed running a welded front end will make the tires return to center (at least on one of my trucks).when I am moving along on a road..Appreciate the information.:D

Just to clear some things up...
Here is Eaton's (charlynn) description of load reaction steering valves...
http://209.224.48.243/html/products/pdfs/steer/11-872.pdf
see page 10

willy,
Yep ,same here, I'm not concerned for myself, mine is non-reactive, but I manage to get around, I just want the pilgrims out there to know what they are paying for...It makes no sence to pay for a load sensing valve (thinking it will return to ctr.) if it won't...Personally, I don't pay for anything, so I make due with I can get. :D

thanx for the link..certainly understand what you were saying about the load sensing and load reacting being two different thnings..:D

Anytime.
The danfoss site has some good formulas for calculating the cylinder/valve and pump size (if you're into that).
I lost the link , but it's easy to locate with a search.

That's some good info Dirtrod...thanks. Not really applicable to my project since you could say that the load sensing and load reacting will drive for you and make coffee too, I still couldn't afford it. But makes me feel better about not affording some things :D

Actually, if the non reactive will continue to turn after wheel is released...with 300;1 and a hand throttle, couldn't I just get out and spot myslef? Seems to me this is an advantage on a trail rig :p