http://www.moabtimes.com/issues/2002/020404/images/1.jpg

I really can't think of much nice things to say here.

Is this the vehicles involved in the Lions Back accident?

looks like it from what I heard - where did ya find that pic?

Look in chit chat, you can see a sequence .....

http://www.moabtimes.com/ The picture and link is from another forum.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45342

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That seems to expalin it, WTF was that guy doing driving up there when there was already two rigs up there??????????? He should have been the one falling off the cliff.:mad:

Originally posted by Wilson
That seems to expalin it, WTF was that guy doing driving up there when there was already two rigs up there??????????? He should have been the one falling off the cliff.:mad:

He was...................

Originally posted by Sixgun


He was...................

i *think* the driver was a she ....

- jack

Seems to me this unfortunate accident was the result of at least three inexperienced wheelers.

* The rig that crashed should've waited, but there is enough room on top for 3 rigs.
* The rigs descending should've checked to see if the trail was clear before heading down. With several dozen rigs hitting Moab for EJS, what are the odds of rigs ascending & descending at the same time? Pretty good, particularly if noone is monitoring the start of the route.
* The numbnutz in the TJ should not have been riding the 4Runner's ass coming down. Both rigs were virtually at the top, and the 4Runner could've backed back up (if necessary, to accomodate the novice driver ascending). It would be hairy enough to back back up Lions Back, particularly for a novice wheeler. Being faced with that option, and a rig right on your ass, the driver probably said f*ck no.
*The spotter, if that's what he was doing, should've directed the rig to the left of the trail, so that it would've gone around the right side of the descending rigs.

This is a very, very unfortunate accident. Thanfully nobody died. This accident, and those wishing ill will for anyone on that day, do no favors for the offroading community.

Oops, I saw the post after it happened and thought that the white runner was the one that tumbled. I didn't wish harm upon anyone. A lot of what we do involves common sense and trail ettiquette. If these unwritten rules of the road are not followed, this is the kind of stuff that can happen. This should be looked at as a lesson to all and especially those that are just getting into wheeling. Large groups and events can lead to confusion, but with the potential consequences being so great, people really need to watch their back as well as those around them to keep this from happening.

My wife and I were watching a T.V. show entitled "It's a Miracle," when they had shown a videotape of the EJS event of March 31st, 1990 (or 1991) where a dude and his girlfriend were playing on Lions Back in a FS Blazer, no lift, and appeared to have stock tires. First, the dude went up it and came back down without any problems. Then he let his girlfriend try it. She got up it o.k. but upon their descent, the truck must've slipped out of gear, and the brakes had (as stated) failed. They wound up flying down, bounced around some, then dove off the left side, landed nose first, then rolled over to the top. The people lived, only suffered moderate injuries.

Well, It was a interesting Sat at the Lions Back. The Club I was with was coming off Hell's Revenge when we saw the rescue crews going up. I told the Skinny Allen to get me up the and Bob Followed me. I am a disabled Firefighter and Bob was a AF nurse, We're both highly trained. By the time we got up there, there was too many people there so we help the Rangers keep the road clear for rescue equipment to get in. We couldn't go anywhere because the road below was being used as a helopad. While we where there I was talking with some folk and this lady told me her and her husbad had filmed it happening. I asked if I could see her film and she said her bat. has dead. We happened to have the same machine and used ours to look at it. This is what we saw.

The Toy was going up, Jamie is a guy, and he saw the other 2 coming down. there was also a vehical infront of him going up. the 2 coming down stoped. The first one going up went right around them. Jamie stopped right before the little ledge up there. When he started to go he couldn't get over the ledge. Evertime he tried he would bouce to the right. The guy you see standing there got out, I'll asume to spot him. He hit it a few more times, boucing even more to the right finally going into the roll you see there. I the tape there are about 2 seconds before you hear the boom of them hitting the ledge they landed on. As for the guy standing there, he most likely was in shock. The roll started and went quick. About a second after what you see, he started running to get to them.

Jamie was wrong for doing it and not backing off, but NOBODY deserves it in any shape or form. You are very wrong on that. Theirs not a wheeler on here that at one time or another hasn't thought " How'd I do that" Stuff happens and that's it.

Grant County Search & Rescue did a great job and I'm glad their on the job down there. The Chopper pilot did a great job of lowering the Rescue team and the Stokes in and out of that crevise that they fell into.

This was the wildest Safari I've been to so far.

I guess I'm a wuss, but I just don't see any reason to ever go up that thing. Why?

Originally posted by Drew Persson
I guess I'm a wuss, but I just don't see any reason to ever go up that thing. Why?

Because it's there.

Crack cocaine is "there", prostitutes with AID's are "there", etc.

Doesn't mean you flush common sense and risk your life for something that isn't even technically challenging, Moab has zillions of much more difficult obstacles on which to test your skills.

My point exactly! And since you understand why crack and whores are so much fun, I don't see why you can't understand Lions Back - oh wait, maybe you were saying that there's something wrong with crack and whores :confused: I'm not sure, maybe I'll try another tack.

Well, Mount Everest is there, and its not the toughest, but lots of people kill themselves there. (I think mountain climbers are amazing - do you know that about 1/3 of all the people who have tried the final leg of Mount Everest have died, either on the way up or coming back down? That's kind of like if RCAA had a 33% fatality rate.)

And if you don't like that answer, how about for the view? It's supposed to be panoramic up there.

Pick the answer you like best, I'm just trying to please.:D :flipoff2: