: Let the 100 series Mods begin......
wngrog 03-24-2006, 05:33 PM I took a break from the Bash Buggy to get the OME lift and Slee drop bar installed on my 100.
Before Pic
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=236126&stc=1&d=1143250077
Pile O Stuff to install...
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=236127&stc=1&d=1143250139
After the install.....
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=236128&stc=1&d=1143250244
These are 33 x 13.50 x 18 Nitto Terra Grapplers. They barely fit. Small amount of rubbing in the rear portion of the front wheelwell at full turn.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=236129&stc=1&d=1143250336
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=236130&stc=1&d=1143250388
wngrog 03-24-2006, 05:36 PM The entire lift took me about 4 hours to complete. It would only take 1/2 that now that I have done it once. The torsion bars are tricky, but once you learn the trick they are simple.
The hardest part of this lift is fawking with the top nut on the rear shocks.
Here is a Cheapo drawer system that Summit has on sale for 1/2 price right now. It was $300 after the $75 truck delivery charge.
I think it is worth that
orangefj45 03-24-2006, 07:38 PM sweet! now julie can jump the curbs at the mall!:grinpimp:
can't seem to find that drawer on Summit. got a link? part number?
(edit: never mind... i'm dumb. got it)
smurfblue40 03-24-2006, 09:19 PM I like it :smokin:
wngrog 03-25-2006, 04:37 AM sweet! now julie can jump the curbs at the mall!:grinpimp:
She did not even notice :rolleyes:
Guppie 03-25-2006, 11:24 AM Hey Nolen,
Do you use the 100 as a tow vehicle? How does it do?
Noah
bkfj55 03-25-2006, 12:53 PM lookin' nice....I wonder if those boxes would fit in a 60 series...
bk
tclndcrz 03-25-2006, 04:10 PM dude wtf your not allowed to have two build threads
anyway its lookin cool. i am jealous
bkfj55 03-25-2006, 04:49 PM thanks for the tip on the drawers....ordered up a few for the cruisers...
bk
clarkrw3 03-25-2006, 05:00 PM sweet another built 100....when is the armer coming???
DHONDAGOD 03-25-2006, 10:30 PM nolan, learn from your past. bypass version 1-6 now and cut off the body and tube it, hybred sunray whatever axles, atlas, yadda yadda yadda..... come-on... you know you want too...:D
looks good man... :beer:
chris:cool2:
wngrog 03-26-2006, 06:26 AM I took it out on the road yesterday for a 200 mile round trip (5 year old Bday party :rolleyes: )
Ride-A bit harsh. After woning an 80 series and OME lifiting it, I was expecting the night/day difference the lift made. Well, this lift runs more along the lines of other rigs I have lifted in the past. A bit more harsh of a ride but it still handles well.
Tires-The Nitto Terra Grappler 33x13.50x18's are pretty sweet. HUGE for a 33" tire. Damn near as wide as they are tall. They look good and in proportion to the big wagon. I like the 18" wheels on them too. Very low road noise too. The 100 cabin though is one of the most quiet cabins I have ridden in.
Armor is coming. The sliders and rear bumper are at a buddy's shop across town and he is armed with the right paint just waiting for a good spell of weather to squirt some body color paint on them.
Front bumper is on order with www.sleeoffroad.com and should be in next week.
If you wold like a real detailed buildup thread on a 100 series, a dude named Bull documented his buildup on IH8MUD in the 100 series section. Check it out if you are interested in the details on how a 100 series OME goes together.
Took me about 5 hours, but I could do it in 3 or less the second time.
wngrog 03-27-2006, 03:37 PM After the first tank with the new tires, 70% hwy miles I got 13.5 MPG. Not too shabby. I cannot really tell the tires are on there. They did not whack the gearing too badly.
Here are the painted www.sleeoffroad.com sliders and bumpers. They are drying and I am gonna stick them on tomorrow :grinpimp:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=236668&stc=1&d=1143502485
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=236669&stc=1&d=1143502485
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=236670&stc=1&d=1143502485
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=236671&stc=1&d=1143502485
wngrog 03-27-2006, 03:39 PM I like this Cruiser.........I looked at an FJ Cruiser today and I would much rather have a used 100 series ;)
Jason M 03-27-2006, 04:08 PM 13.5???
You lost mileage lol
Looks good now!!!
Glad it did not have the lift for the trek that I did in it :D
wngrog 03-27-2006, 04:50 PM Yeah that BS folks spout about better mileage with larger tires is BS. Sure the overall ratio is down, but the rolling mass of the tires and extra weight always override the "better" gearing.
Yeah, glad it pulled down 15 or so on your trek.....
Rat70FJ 03-27-2006, 05:36 PM Yeah that BS folks spout about better mileage with larger tires is BS. Sure the overall ratio is down, but the rolling mass of the tires and extra weight always override the "better" gearing......
Not to mention increased drag due to the lift. Effectively you add to your frontal area by however much you lift your rig. IE.4 inch lift with a six foot wide rig =2 more square feet of air to push. The space beneath your vehicle is so non aerodynamic that it's basically solid to the air.
dog walker 03-27-2006, 08:37 PM Lookin' nice! On mamma's 100 I cranked the T-bars up about an inch to level it, then put some 265/75/16 Toyo open country MT's on her. Id like to lift it a couple more inches in the future though. How much did the kit run you? Last time I checked, it was $800! Seems kinda high for only 1.5-2" of lift!
wngrog 03-28-2006, 04:28 AM Lookin' nice! On mamma's 100 I cranked the T-bars up about an inch to level it, then put some 265/75/16 Toyo open country MT's on her. Id like to lift it a couple more inches in the future though. How much did the kit run you? Last time I checked, it was $800! Seems kinda high for only 1.5-2" of lift!
Yeah, it retails for around $800 with all the bells and whistles.
If you look around you can find 80 series guys selling the springs used and jump on those.
Also the diff drop kit and the torsion bars are really only needed if you plan on wheeling it in my opinion.
Kaderabek 03-28-2006, 06:23 AM You know what would really look good on this truck.... :smokin:
TJK
texican 03-28-2006, 06:41 AM You know what would really look good on this truck.... :smokin:
TJK
Oh, that's just what he needs......more wind drag....:flipoff2: :flipoff2:
wes8517 03-28-2006, 06:42 AM nolen, you commented on the harsh ride, i bet that changes when you add 700 pounds worth of bumpers and sliders. and when you have the trailer on the back it oughta be even better. btw, are you gonna use a WDH with the trailer and bash buggy?
wes
Kaderabek 03-28-2006, 06:47 AM Oh, that's just what he needs......more wind drag....:flipoff2: :flipoff2:
Funny you should mention that, I was thinking of 100 series fuel economy last weekend. Driving back from Florida on Saturday, the Audi A6 wagon that replaced our 100 series averaged 21.6 mpg. Fully loaded. With the cruise set at 95 mph.... :D 100 series, rack or not, wouldn't have done that if I'd pushed it off a cliff. :shaking:
Racks are good.... :p
TJK
wngrog 03-28-2006, 10:53 AM nolen, you commented on the harsh ride, i bet that changes when you add 700 pounds worth of bumpers and sliders. and when you have the trailer on the back it oughta be even better. btw, are you gonna use a WDH with the trailer and bash buggy?
wes
I doubt I will need a weight distributing hitch. I will try it first without one.
Todd, those racks are lovely, but I have every known Yakima rack part there is :emb2:
I don't need to reinvest in all that Outback stuff, nice as it is.
Kaderabek 03-28-2006, 11:06 AM I don't need to reinvest in all that Outback stuff, nice as it is.
Well sure you do! :p
You can store your Yakima stuff with my Yakima stuff. Be like a little
:barf:ima stuff museum. :shaking:
You can't sleep on a Yakima (comfortably)....
TJK
wngrog 03-28-2006, 11:11 AM Well sure you do! :p
You can store your Yakima stuff with my Yakima stuff. Be like a little
:barf:ima stuff museum. :shaking:
You can't sleep on a Yakima (comfortably)....
TJK
My Yakima holds my Oz tent nicely :D
Kaderabek 03-28-2006, 11:15 AM Reminds me, you need a bike rack for the back of that thing? I still have the one off our 100. Make you a killer deal on it.... :D It'd fit in well with your Yakima collection. :shaking: SlickRoc 4.
TJK
Kaderabek 03-28-2006, 11:30 AM My Yakima holds my Oz tent nicely :D
Not with you in it. :D
TJK
wngrog 03-28-2006, 05:12 PM Got the bumpers and sliders on today.
www.sleeoffroad.com does amazing work with these pieces!
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=236903&stc=1&d=1143594604
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=236904&stc=1&d=1143594599
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=236905&stc=1&d=1143594599
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=236906&stc=1&d=1143594599
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=236907&stc=1&d=1143594599
dog walker 03-28-2006, 05:14 PM Looks great! BTW, my 100 gets around 13-14 as well. Always has since the day we got her.
wes8517 03-28-2006, 06:37 PM thats awesome lookin nolen....my only concern is that the front sits lower now, how much lower is it gonna be with the front bumper? gonna have to twist the torsion bars?
wes
dog walker 03-28-2006, 06:47 PM That's not as bad as how they sit stock. They come with a 1.5-2" rake like most trucks do.
wngrog 03-28-2006, 06:56 PM thats awesome lookin nolen....my only concern is that the front sits lower now, how much lower is it gonna be with the front bumper? gonna have to twist the torsion bars?
wes
Right now the front is cranked as high as it will go with the limiting factor being the shocks. They are now the "limiting strap" and these Old man Emu shocks are known to pull the eye out if you let the front drop more than 2.5" (yeah I know, :rainbow: )
That said, there is a guy in Australia that had Bilstein make his shop some longer front shocks that I may get my hands on. If so, I will level it out.
Until then, I am stuck with the rake.
Like Jeff said, that is a standard thing with 100's
I think I can live with it. I can raise the front again when I add the winch and bumper as long as I keep the fender to the bottom of the 18" rim measurment to 31.5"
Dan Dibble 09-20-2006, 01:56 PM Here are some nice 100 mods :flipoff2:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=264261&stc=1&d=1158785564
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=264262&stc=1&d=1158785564
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=264263&stc=1&d=1158785564
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyota-Land-Cruiser-LEXUS-LX-470-SAND-RAIL-ROCK-BUGGY-BEACH-CRUISER-JEEP-4-door_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6443QQihZ011QQitem Z320028522752QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
Dan
wngrog 09-20-2006, 03:38 PM If I total it on the Rubicon this summer, that is my plan :rolleyes:
Rat70FJ 09-20-2006, 03:55 PM If I total it on the Rubicon this summer, that is my plan :rolleyes:
I'll spot for you then!
ROCK HUGGER 09-20-2006, 04:55 PM I'll spot for you then!
I watched you spot some wagons on an easier trail :shaking:
Watch out Nolen :flipoff2:
nightcrawler 09-20-2006, 05:02 PM Me like. How did it do with towing? Also what mpg do you get towing your tubed bad boy? 8 mpg?
wngrog 09-20-2006, 06:58 PM Me like. How did it do with towing? Also what mpg do you get towing your tubed bad boy? 8 mpg?
Here is my Towing report from the 100 series forum on Mud
IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,784 The trip staterd at 5:00 am when I met my buggy Jim in my old Duramax 2500HD and his full load of 2800# buggy, spares, tools and camping gear.
We headed out into a terrible storm and headwind toward Amarillo.
We kept a pace of around 70mpg into a 40+ mph headwind on the first 2 tanks. Mileage hovered around 7mpg on the first two tanks.
I was running the Cruiser in 3rd gear the entire time but the towing was surprisingly stable with the 3800-4200# load and the 863 rear springs.
After Amarillo, the headwind shifter to a side-wind and the towing got much better. I tried drafting behind Jim some and that did not help the mileage on the next tank. Another solid 7mpg. Speeds are around 80mph in 3rd. RPMs hover at 3600-3800 rpm for hours.
At this point, I am getting happy if I break 100 miles on a 1/2 tank and 150 before I need to fill up.
Around Clines Corners I got in front of Jim after a crowded fuel stop and hit the road at 70mph to allow him to catch up. His fuel stop lasted longer than I thought and with him running 80 he did not catch me before we stopped on the other side of Albuquerque. Running 70 with occasional use of the OD in the rig mileage jumped to a whopping 9mpg.
Fueled (literally) with enthusiasm with this jump in mileage, I managed to stay in front of Jim through Cortez, Co keeping the 70mph pace and 8.5-9.5 tanks.
At this point, the Cruiser had only dropped below 70mph on the cruise control one time and that was pulling the long grade outside of Albuquerque and it would only go 65mph.
Arriving in Moab at 8:30 pm, the trip cost me around $500 in gas to get BOTH of my trail rigs to Moab and we averaged 63mph and my mileage averaged 8.5 mpg overall, even with the crappy first tank at 6.5 mpg.
I alternated 87 octane with 90-93 octane on each tank. I switched to synthetic oil before the trip and the Cruiser used none and barely colored it on the trip out, even with 15+ hours at 3500 rpm plus.
Having gone from a 2003 "chipped" Duramax to the 100 series was quite a jump. Mileage. of course, was the big hit but the fact that the Cruiser only dropped one time under 70mph on the hills on the way out and that the load was rock solid behind the Cruiser really surprised me.
Overall, I am VERY pleased with the towing capabilities of the Cruiser on the trip out and back.
On the way home, we spent more time at altitude cutting through SW Colorado to see Mesa Verde and ending up in Santa Fe on the first day. The Cruiser gets much better mileage when it is over 5000 ft sea level for some reason. With mixed OD and D driving around 70 mph, we got between 10 and 11.5 mpg on the leg to Santa Fe.
On the leg from Santa Fe to Carlsbad Caverns the next day I was driving faster, but I left the Cruiser in OD the entire time and let it shift itself. Mileage went back to 8.5 mpg for that leg of the trip.
The final leg from Carlsbad to Granbury Texas on Monday, I had the hammer down and ran 75-80 the entire time in "D" with a mixed headwind and mileage dripped to 7-7.5.
The trip home was a little longer in mileage, but I upped the average to 9.5 mpg and fuel costs were about the same at $500 for the return trip.
Overall, as a tow vehicle these are my impressions.
Power-adequate. B-
In "d" if you are willing to deal with the horrible mileage, the 4.7 does a good job. 3500-3800 rpm is the ideal powerband for this engine and it never hickupped. After the 2700 mile round trip the oil looks slightly brown, but does not look in need for a change. With the synthetics, I will go 5000 miles on this oil.
Stability-very good. A-
With the Slee bumper, 863 shocks and the stock 18" Bridgestone's the stability of the towing platform was way better than I imagined. Very nice, no sway and no bounce at all. I had to make a couple of emergencey stops where the anti-lock kicked in from 70 mph to stop and the car braked the load increadible well.
Even though I have 4 brakes on the trailer, I discovered in Carlsbad (after the 2 emergency braking episodes, that only one was hooked up. The 6000# Cruiser did a GREAT job as a towing/stopping platform.
Overall the rig is a good 1/2 ton towing platform. Of course it is no Duramax, but the important point is, there is NO OTHER VEHICLE that you can tow a load like this with and then slap on your 33" AT's and hit 3-4 rated trails with 4 people and only drag the bumpers a few times.
Rat70FJ 09-21-2006, 04:47 PM I watched you spot some wagons on an easier trail :shaking: Watch out Nolen :flipoff2:
Hey david, I was proud of getting them through unscathed! In Nolen's case however, I want to see him Dibbleize his ole lady's rig!!:D
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