: Suspension Spacers


RVR OVR
04-08-2002, 11:31 AM
Anybody know of a low cost source for 2" suspension spacers?

Thanks,

Tom

RockRover
04-08-2002, 11:43 AM
http:\\www.rockware.net

RockRover
04-08-2002, 11:43 AM
Oppp's...Make those forward slashes...I'll try again: http:\\www.rockware.net

Way
04-08-2002, 11:43 AM
The rovertym ones are the best as they support the spring perch plate equally. I tried to put 2.5" spacers on my rover with box tubing. I do not recommend this. It was a temporary fix to see if I could clear bigger tires. Vibrations occur when you go with a big spacer in the front. Better have a three link or corrected radius arms to adjust the alignment after this mod. Low cost is a matter of your price sensitivity. What kind of cost are you looking for.

Rovertyms cost 165 to 180 depending on what you want (2" exactly) These are for FRONT spacers.l

http://rovertym.com/spacers.htm

However I have to ask, why not just do custom springs??? His price is $275 for four ( so for two close to $140ish). I am sure there are ohter companies that sell similar. The only advatange that I can see to a spacer is depending on your suspension set up you could reuse your existing shocks.

Why not just go with springs??? If you call he can make custom springs that are taller to provide additional lift. I went to Valley Spring Works for mine. They were more expensive than his, but I am happy with them and I feel that they are at least equal in quality to the ones he sells. One advantage to calling him is that he has a CAD program that has a bunch of different suspension set ups. He can figure out your geometry for you in the program and make adjustments as necessary in that! Talk about hi-tech!!!

Way

P.S. You may be able to get by with a two inch spacer in the rear easier than you can in the front. You may want to specify what you are looking for.

RockRover
04-08-2002, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by RockRover
Oppp's...Make those forward slashes...I'll try again: http:\\www.rockware.net


Awww...Never mind.

RVR OVR
04-08-2002, 12:13 PM
Don't worry, the link worked for Rockware!

I have pretty much RoverTym everything when it comes to my suspension. The 3" HD springs, Radius Arms, Cones, Rear Mounts, and Trailing links. Racho 9005 rear, 9207 front. I am running dual Tom Woods CV Shafts. (Plug for RoverTym, I am damn glad I went with his stuff from the get go. He has been great and his stuff has been slammed with no injuries.)

Anyway, I am still working to clear my 33's, as this weekend I found out the the trimming I did won't be enough, and I don't want to hack into the rear door.

I recently installed some HD sliders, HD front bumper w/Warn 9500i winch, and HD Rear Bumper and Gas Tank Skid. Thanks to all of that, I would guess my springs have settled about 1". I was enjoying a > 3" lift because I had no sliders and stock bumpers.

I figure that 2" spacers would put me back where I was, plus another inch. Of course, I would also have to use the a-arm extension for the back to get everything (pinion angles, etc.) pointing the right way, as well as do something (:confused: ) to get the front CV back in line.

I never thought of getting custom springs, that sounds like a good option, but also sounds like more unknowns. At least now I know where my springs are and they are pretty well broken in.

I know I can easily get the job done with a body lift, but I finally got front and rear bumpers both done, and the last thing I want to do is make them look like Fawking Sheet. I also just don't really dig on the ECR flares. Maybe when Marty or ECR posts more pics I will dig them more.

Sorry for the brain dump, but figured I'd hand out the info to anyone bored on a Monday who may want to make a suggestion or two.

Tom

Way
04-08-2002, 01:27 PM
I do not think you would have too many unknowns with springs. What are you wanting to know??? How much the will sag after they break in or what???

Have you thought of relocating your rear axle back a bit. John can make you a kit to do that. This would give you more room at the rear door for tire clearance. (It would give you about 1.5" more of clearance.) You would need the rear a-arm extension, longer links, and a football shaped bracket to move your spring perch forward. John can expain better I am sure.

BTW didn't John have 33" tires on his disco without any major trimming. What did he do?

Way

EDIT: Oh yeah front or rear or both does the tire rub???

RVR OVR
04-08-2002, 01:53 PM
Adam,

He had 33x10.5's from BFG, I think. I have 33x12.5 swampers which are at least 3/4" taller and much wider.

I am rubbing on the rear of the front fenders and the rear door, outer lip, and some wheel well on full stuffage of the rear.

I think I can take care of the front with more trimming and no spacers, but I figured as long as I was going to screw with the back, I might as well get more lift all around.

As far as the springs are concerned, yes, that is exactly what I was thinking. How much lift will it really be when new, and when it settles, how much will there be.

Tom

Way
04-08-2002, 02:07 PM
I have a 92 RR and from what I hear it is indentical to the disco frame. I know there are diffrences but here is some of my spring info.

My DS rear I ordered at 21.5" (unistalled) spring rate 300-340 progressive. It now sits at 17.5" (under vehilce for over a year) The PS rear I ordered at 20.5" same spring rate. It also now sits at 17.5"

The fronts are also progressive. The fronts I think are 220-260 progressive (40lbs heavier than OME HD for front is how I ordered them) . Length ordered at 18.5" Now sit at 15.5". I have a bumper, Warn 12,000 winch, roof rack, gear, and some other stuff that adds some weight to the vehicle. Hope that gives you a reference.

Way

GRNRVR
04-08-2002, 08:05 PM
Tom, just order the stuff from John and try it out.... If you just add the spacers you may not have an issue with the front arms as that should rotate the pinion upwards toward the trans case which is what you want.. Then do the A-arm extension once you get your rear links positioned where you want them.. You will probably be Ok but, you aren't going to be able to find out for sure till you do it.. I'm running the 3 inch springs and a 1 inch spacer right now with 265/75 MTRs.. Which are like 31.8 tall and I still have that ford F350 wheel well look.. Lot's of well not to much wheel.. However, I don't have my bumper and winch installed yet. John is still designing it for me.. So I'll probably lose and inch in the front from that which will still leave me with the 3+ lift that I got from his springs.. You are only going to find out by just doing it.. Not every Rover acts the same when you make changes so you will really never know..

As Ho would say "Just do it"... Damn I can't do the cheerleaders so I'm just going to have to give you the :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

I can't wait to see the faces at U Safari the end of this month if John comes rolling in on his 35's.. His truck was looking huge on those bad boys last time I was down there..

200 Tdi
04-08-2002, 09:36 PM
My homemade cheap bastard spacers are made from box tubing.
3" x 2" x 1/4" thick.
They sit under the spring perch.
All you need to make them is an off cut saw and drill and some longer bolts. Took about 2 hours between:beer:

John D - Oz

alia176
04-15-2002, 03:22 PM
Tom,

My CB spacers are made out of round stock 3" aluminum, sliced into 1.5" spacers using a bandsaw. Not exactly machine precise but works out fine. You'll need to drill two holes and get longer bolts that will go through the spring perch plate and the spacers. I bought the round stock at a Used Metal recycle place in chicago for a few bucks.

Ali

RVR OVR
04-15-2002, 08:04 PM
Ali,

Hmmmm... Think perhaps I can coerce you into making some up for me if I buy the stock? No band saw in the garage....

By the way, did those shock mounts I gave you work out? :D :D

Tom

alia176
04-16-2002, 04:24 PM
Dude,

No problemo, but I'm still in Utah though. Just go by my house and pick up a pair. I made two pairs (front and rear). Alen wants a set and you can have a set. They're 1.5" thick though. Email me and we'll work out the details. I still haven't use the RT brackets yet, just keeping my options open.

RVR OVR
04-16-2002, 04:30 PM
I'll wait until you get back. I think I need two at 1.5" for the front and 2 at 2" for the rear...

Tom

Greg Davis
04-17-2002, 10:20 AM
I also do my own spacers. Steel tubing formed into an oval, with 1/4" plate welded on. The spacer is then inverted, with the plate resting against the top of the axle. Spring perch then rests on top of the spacer. Price is $80 plus shipping, for a set of four with new hardware. They are 1", 1.5", & 2". Mix or match.