: disc brakes on rockwell?


kaiserm715
04-08-2002, 02:29 PM
i've been reading all the old posts from about a month ago. just wondering if any one has gotten any furthur on this task. let's kick this idea around some more.

kaiserm715
04-08-2002, 02:56 PM
does this sound crazy...i think it does. weld tabs on the bearing hub. then take a rotor and and turn the center out to 6.5", drill it to match the tabs on the bearing hub. this would put the rotor on the hub, from there it would be as simple as buying a mounting bracket from AA mfg for the caliper to weld onto the knuckle.
this, i think would work but...would the welded tabs hold up to the resistance that the brakes will put on them? think it would just rip the tabs off?

elf_cruiser
04-08-2002, 03:28 PM
Daniel is gonna do this for my friend, Jeeper111. What's up daniel, i would think you'd have been the first to post here?? The hubs have to stay flipped out, and they brakes will fit inside a 16.5" wheel, Jeeper111 is gonna use hummer rims with rockwell centers.

laters-

kaiserm715
04-09-2002, 05:34 AM
come on guys, i can understand why daniel doesn't want to discuss (he can make money), but we can save money!! i guesse i should just be the first brave soul and try it huh.

KAcrawler
04-09-2002, 06:55 AM
the only downside is that jeeper111 told me that the hummer wheels were gonna cost him 220 a wheel to have the custom backspacing and runflats and i think that was the 8 bolt!

Brian
04-09-2002, 11:32 AM
why dont you guys use pinion mounted disc brakes. with the gear reduction you end up with alot more braking power dont you. not to mention you cut back on a ton of weight after removing all the old drums and crap. and you can flip the hubs in aswell.

kaiserm715
04-09-2002, 11:39 AM
i'm wanting to keep mine streetable in those rare ocasions that i need to drive it on the road. as i said above this will enable me to put them on the truck, but i'm just not sure if it would hold up.

Brian
04-09-2002, 12:01 PM
i would never try to weld to cast hubs. that is a big no-no. tap out some holes and bolt them on, but i wouldnt trust welded tabs

kaiserm715
04-09-2002, 03:32 PM
anyone know the biggest rotor? a 3/4 ton will have approx. 3/4" after the center is turned out to 6.5". i believe a one ton rotor comes with the hub and all. so what would be the next application up in rotor size that has a rotor that is sold seperate from the hub?

Brian
04-09-2002, 04:06 PM
big rigs and utility trucks also use disc. my buddy bought a used snap-on tool truck and it came with fourwheel disc brakes. im not sure what rearend is under that, but it is huge. it has the big rig 10 bolt pattern aswell.

onetonwillysands10
04-09-2002, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by Brian
i would never try to weld to cast hubs. that is a big no-no. tap out some holes and bolt them on, but i wouldnt trust welded tabs


it can be done..just has to be done right...seen plenty of pro truck pulling trucks running rotors welded to the hubs to get ride of the drum brakes on dropout style military 2.5 ton axle..I think someone mentioned in a previous post on this that the rotors used by the place in florida were off a chevy topkick(c-60) and that they were welded to the hubs with the hubs flipped to the wide pattern.not for sure though on the last bit.:D

Mutt
04-09-2002, 07:44 PM
Spend the $$$$, do it right, have Daniel hook you up, is your life and whomever you may run down with your rockwells worth saving a few $$$ in the long run?

jstarnes
07-03-2002, 05:16 PM
Call Steve@differential engineering (863)294 7602 he can set you up for 2.5ton discs AT THE WHEEL

helocat
07-03-2002, 11:11 PM
I belive I saw this set up on W's rig, the owner of Over the Hill 4x4 in Portland OR. I know he is running 2.5 ton outers on a hybred axel. He has massave disks on that thing! (Customs I think)

http://www.overthehill4x4.com/

I know they are closed this week out wheal'n. Call or send them an e-mail.

Mark

elf_cruiser
07-03-2002, 11:57 PM
( Sorry this is jeeper111, elf cruiser was logged in when I sat down!)

I never heard of this guy steve but Daniel is doing the discs on my rockwells right now and I imagine those will be the pics he is going to post. I am going up to OK tyo get them on the 9th or the 10th and I will post pics of them here also. The wheels are not costing me 220 a piece. they are 50 bucks for the rim from daniel and I think 80 for the centers welded in. I did spend the extra 50 bucks for the rbber runflat because I will be balancing them with golf balls and because I dont want it tearing up my tires like I have heard that they do. As far as pinion brakes go, they dont give you individual control over your wheels and they spin way too damn fast and burn up way too soon. Also I have heard that they cause the pinion seal problems and cause premature pinion bearing falure. Daniel doesnt weld tabs to the hub. He has found a rotor that fits inside of the 16.5 inch wheel and he re-drills it to the 6 on 8 3/4 lug pattern of the rockwell so that it is pressed on with the lug studs. Then he builds a bracket to mount the caliper on that bolts on to the knuckle with those 16 spindle bolts. He uses F-450 calipers at each corner so that you have massive stopping power which is nice with 42s. This whole process is not very expensive when you look at other brake kits on the market so I would give him a call. I will post pics and show everybody what they are all about when i get them. Keep checking back!:smokin:

hy_desert_4wheeler
07-04-2002, 05:27 AM
Just a thought here but SCP( www.stockcarproducts.com ) sells rotors for race cars that use the wide 5 pattern.. These rotors have a center holes that range between 6.75 and 7.62 inches.. They can be had in thickneses of .81, 1.25, or 1.38 they have OD's of 11.75, 12.19, or 12.72 and the weight ranges between 8.9 lbs and 18.8 lbs.. prices range between $36.75 amd $206.70..

hy_desert_4wheeler
07-04-2002, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by Daniel
Rockwell Bolt pattern: 8.75 inches.....




They were talking about bolting it to the back side of the hubs not on the lugs.. kaiserm715 was talking about taking a 3/4 ton rotor and machining the inside out to 6.5 inches so rather than maching the inside out of a 3/4 ton rotor I was showing him this option which would save on the cost of machining which is around $70.00 an hour here..my guess would be that they would charge 2-3 hours for setup time plus 1-2 hours machining time for each rotorwhich would add up to between 4 and 7 hours fro the initial set up and it you ever broke one they would have the set up time and maching time to get another one.. so in my opinion it would be cheaper to buy these rotors and bolt them on than to buy the 3/4 ton rotors, and have them machined.