Well, I picked up my '82 toy axles on Saturday and am trying to figure out what I need to do for brakes. There were no brake lines on it, so I have nothing to compare to the ones on my Samurai. I can tell that the Samurai lines won't hook up to the toy axles due to the different fittings, but I am assuming I just need to get toy lines from the axles to the Samurai hardlines. So, here's my question: If I buy the extended toy lines, will it bolt right up to the Samurai? Just a little confused and need some clarification. Mine is an '88.5, so single rear line. Thanks. ~Steve

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http://www.off-road.com/toyota/discs.html

http://205.150.191.126/aweber/brakes.htm

The compression fittings on Toyota brakelines are 10mm, 1.0 thread/mm pitch. You could go up to NAPA and ask to look at the brake lines for a Toy and a Sammy, and then try screwing the one into the other...

On a Toyota, the front corners have rubber lines with a female fitting at both ends. The rear axle has one rubber line which comes down from the passengers frame rail (female fitting) to a T-fitting next to the diff, which it screws into with a male fitting.

FLEXY, I don't think he was asking about doing a rear disk-brake conversion. :confused:

Originally posted by FLEXYSAMMY
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Who you calling newbie, newbie? :flipoff2: And I have done lots of searching on the subject, but never did I find "The toy brakelines connect to the Sammy fittings." :flipoff2:

And I know there are guys on here who have done toy axle, so what did you do with the brakes? Do the toy lines hook up to the Sammy hard lines? OILBURNER, scawfish, fatkid, azrockcrawler (for the front, anyway)??? Thanks. ~Steve

Samurai tread is also 10mm 1.0.

Originally posted by squirrelman83


Who you calling newbie, newbie? :flipoff2: And I have done lots of searching on the subject, but never did I find "The toy brakelines connect to the Sammy fittings." :flipoff2:

And I know there are guys on here who have done toy axle, so what did you do with the brakes? Do the toy lines hook up to the Sammy hard lines? OILBURNER, scawfish, fatkid, azrockcrawler (for the front, anyway)??? Thanks. ~Steve

I posted all the stuff I know on my website. Are you asking about the front or rear? For the front I used the same lines I had in the rear of the Zuk same threads so you need a female to female. For teh rear I bought some brake lines and borrowed a flaring tool, again, same thread as teh Zuk so bend to suit and bot them up. I had dual brake lines on my Zuk, I'd guess you could use a T block or something?

Stock Samurai brake lines fit in the Toy front calipers, at least they did on mine.

If you have a single rear line, that is a direct swap, too :grinpimp:

That axle is set up for a single line going into the rear!

Originally posted by skulltoy
That axle is set up for a single line going into the rear!

I know, but the toy axle needs a male end for the rear line, but the Sammy rear line is a female end.

I'll have to look at it a little closer, but it just seems strange. I don't see how the front Sammy line will just bolt up to the toy caliper. The toy hard line off the caliper needs a female end, but the Sammy rubber line (extd TT lines) has a hole and a "bolt-through" type of mount. :confused: The rear toy "block" needs a male end to mount the brakeline to, but the Sammy rear line has a female end. :confused: Sorry for the confusion, guess I need to look at it better or something. What did you guys use for brakelines? Thanks. ~Steve

Okay, they say a picture is worth a thousand words, so lets see if this helps to try and convey what I am trying to explain.

Front:

Samurai:

http://a6.cpimg.com/image/5E/FA/9467486-da2b-028001E0-.jpg

The front Sammy line bolts directly to the caliper using a fitting with a "box" end (like a box end wrench). A bolt passes through this, which holds it to the caliper.

Toyota:

http://a4.cpimg.com/image/5C/FA/9467484-677a-028001E0-.jpg

The Toyota has a short hard line which the brakeline needs to mount to. This requires a brakeline with a female end. The Sammy front brakeline will not mount to this fitting.

After looking at it, it would appear that I could use Sammy rear brakelines in the front. The rear brakeline has female fittings on both ends. It would mount to the Samurai and to the Toyota. So I believe this is what I need to do. :confused:

Rear:

Samurai:

http://a5.cpimg.com/image/5D/FA/9467485-14b1-028001E0-.jpg

Female fitting on the brakeline which mounts to the male Samurai axle hard line.

Toyota:

http://a3.cpimg.com/image/5B/FA/9467483-0d87-028001E0-.jpg

As you can see from the picture, the rear "t-block" on the Toyota axle is female and requires a male fitting. The Samurai rear line has a female fitting, this end is a female fitting.

This would appear that it could be fixed by getting a female-to-female adapter (one that has male ends on both sides). Would this work? Does anyone make a brakeline adapter like this (male ends on both sides)? :confused:

Again, sorry for the confusion. All the help is appreciated. I think I have it figured out, but if someone could reassure me on the above asked questions, I would be greatly appreciative. Thanks. ~Steve

heres mine for the front and rear i used the the sammy brake lines made a holder braket weled it on rearend and for the front i used the stock toyota lines




http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/suzukisamuraisofthesouth/toyota+axle+install!/1+more+of+front.jpg?bcIuPt8AypWHG0b9
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http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/suzukisamuraisofthesouth/toyota+axle+install!/rear+brake+lines.jpg?bcIuPt8ANBZz2eOv

on mine i used all the same napa pn #s all around. they are rear 38688
brake hoses for spoa. i used the rear hardline off the stock zuk axle and it threaded right into the rear toy backingplate. then the 38688 hoses threaded right into the zuki brakeline on rear toyota axle. on front the hoses bolted right up.

I meant to say that the Samurai front hard lines fit the Toyota soft lines.

Also the single rear soft Toyota line fit the Samurai hard line. :)

If you want, I have a pair of stock rubber lines off of the front of my Toyota I'll give ya. They have a 10mm FEMALE fitting at both ends, but I'm not sure they'd be long enough for you.

I'm running extended S.S. brakelines everywhere now, since the stockers won't work too well with 7-8" of lift up front. So you can have the stock lines. I don't have the stock rear line, because I had to cut it. (Long story).

The fronts are yours for $10 to cover shipping if you want them.

Toyota stock lines are female -> female up front,

And a single line out back, from Axle (Male) -> Frame (Female). All fittings are 10mm X 1.0, although the rear line requires a 17mm wrench where it meets the axle.

If the Sammy has a female fitting for the rear brake line at the frame end (or, do sammys have a female/female rear line?), you can use a stock toyota rear brake line now, since it has the needed female fitting at the frame end, and the male fitting at the other end, to fit into the t-block on the Toy axle.

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER
I meant to say that the Samurai front hard lines fit the Toyota soft lines.

Also the single rear soft Toyota line fit the Samurai hard line. :)

THANK YOU!!!! That's what I had thought, but wasn't sure. Exactly what I wanted to hear. :beer: ~Steve

Originally posted by Dr. Evil
If you want, I have a pair of stock rubber lines off of the front of my Toyota I'll give ya. They have a 10mm FEMALE fitting at both ends, but I'm not sure they'd be long enough for you.

I'm running extended S.S. brakelines everywhere now, since the stockers won't work too well with 7-8" of lift up front. So you can have the stock lines. I don't have the stock rear line, because I had to cut it. (Long story).

The fronts are yours for $10 to cover shipping if you want them.

Toyota stock lines are female -> female up front,

And a single line out back, from Axle (Male) -> Frame (Female). All fittings are 10mm X 1.0, although the rear line requires a 17mm wrench where it meets the axle.

If the Sammy has a female fitting for the rear brake line at the frame end (or, do sammys have a female/female rear line?), you can use a stock toyota rear brake line now, since it has the needed female fitting at the frame end, and the male fitting at the other end, to fit into the t-block on the Toy axle.

I'll probably end up buying new toy lines, but thanks for the offer. Does anyone sell RUBBER extended brakelines for Toys, rather than SS? Oh, and the Samurai rear brakeline is female/female, to answer your question. Thanks. ~Steve

Originally posted by squirrelman83
I'll probably end up buying new toy lines, but thanks for the offer. Does anyone sell RUBBER extended brakelines for Toys, rather than SS?
I don't know. Cheapest way the Toy guys do it is to take a rear brake line, and screw it into the front line. You can't use two fronts because they're female/female, so the ends won't fit together. Since it'll be hard to explain, I just fired up paint (see pic)...

If I were you, I'd focus on trying to move the point where your hardline is mounted on the frame (where the soft line bolts to it) as low and as close to the caliper as possible. That way you might get away with using a stock-length line.

If you find when you're done that it'll be too short to flex out, then just buy two rear toy brake lines and bolt them in like the pic shows. No big deal.

But the two lines will be REALLY long. You may have to zip-tie one to the shock or something...

Originally posted by squirrelman83
The Samurai rear brakeline is female/female, to answer your question. Thanks. ~Steve Then just use a toy rear brake line. It has the correct female fitting at the frame hard-line, and has the correct male fitting to thread right into the t-block on the Toy axle at the other.

Does anyone sell RUBBER extended brakelines for Toys, rather than SS? Oh, and the Samurai rear brakeline is female/female, to answer your question. Thanks. ~Steve


38688 napa pn numbers are extended brake hoses (soft line) that will bolt right up in front. no need for making drop brackets with theses lines, they are aproximately 22-23" long. they easily work on rear axles too.

So they're male at one end, female at the other? That would be cool, since one end would fit into the compression fitting at the frame, and you could just bolt the other end straight into the caliper on a Toy axle.

Or do you mean "they work easily on ZUK rear axles, too"? In that case, the ends are both female.

So they're male at one end, female at the other? That would be cool, since one end would fit into the compression fitting at the frame, and you could just bolt the other end straight into the caliper on a Toy axle.

both female ends.....bolt em in and go.

Originally posted by Dr. Evil
So they're male at one end, female at the other? That would be cool, since one end would fit into the compression fitting at the frame, and you could just bolt the other end straight into the caliper on a Toy axle.

Or do you mean "they work easily on ZUK rear axles, too"? In that case, the ends are both female.

Please tell me that you meant flair not compression Fitting.....:smokin:

A flare is a type of compression fitting...