Axle upgrades to D-90

[slickrok]

What is the best aftermarket source for upgrades in the US? Someone list the weak points for me (entire axle?...lol). And max tire size running stock axles, axles with ARB's, axles with good shafts........etc. Can you run a 35 with ARB's and the stock axles and CV's? How exactly is the spiral bi-level front diff set up verses the hypoid rear end. I have only worked with hypoid diffs in the past.

[Junkyddog11]

Sure you can run 35" wide tires with ARB's and stock axles, you just need really wide fender flares.

Nah, seriously, try a search. There is an assload of general info on Rover axles that probably doesn't need to be gone over again. Then when you have something specific, come on back

Not trying to be a dick...........ahhh fawkit :flipoff2:

[PTSchram]

Can you run a 35 with ARB's and the stock axles and CV's?

You can't run 32s with an ARB and stock axles and CVs.

[Black Mustache]

Just to mix it up a little—I ran 33s with an arb for almost 2 years on the 10-spline crud and now am running a detroit for about 3months on a 24-spline rear end and nothing broke except the stock diff when I was between the arb and detroit.
I have a lot of faith in the 10-spline with a light foot (i hear they were made from a better metal).

But all-in-all, I'll say do the right thing and lock it along with some hd shafts from Rovertracks, especially if you wanna go 35s.

(K.A., yeah—you;ll be getting a call from me real soon:flipoff2:)

[revor]

From 24 spline uprated to 35 spline silly..
I can spend your $$$ as well as anybody but I would like to think that I will do it without "wasting" your hard earned $$$

From mild to wild

[roverhybrids]

What is the best aftermarket source for upgrades in the US? Someone list the weak points for me (entire axle?...lol). And max tire size running stock axles, axles with ARB's, axles with good shafts........etc. Can you run a 35 with ARB's and the stock axles and CV's? How exactly is the spiral bi-level front diff set up verses the hypoid rear end. I have only worked with hypoid diffs in the past.


the best upgrade using the stock rover housings is the Toyota swap from revor(www.rovertrack.com).

The best upgrade period would be something custom Hi9's, mog9's, pro-rock 60's etc depending on your application

[Way]

I didn't think you could run stock tires with and ARB and not expect to break! :flipoff2:

[Keith Armstrong]

(K.A., yeah—you;ll be getting a call from me real soon:flipoff2:)

Whaaa ???

You mean K.A.K. (Revor) , right?

KAA

[rock90]

it really depends on what type of wheeling you plan to. if you wheel on the east coast where there is more mud and dirt than rock than I think you could run 35 inch tires and stock axle shafts and they would last for a while. if you plan to alot of rock crawling and have medium to heavy right foot you will be braking axles alot. I ran 35 inchs tires and arbs and broke 5 axles.

ed

[mightymg1]

Ive been running 35s on my disco for about 6 months now, and Ive been to moab, done pritchett and behind the rocks since then. Without my tru trac up front I was fine, no breaks. But with the trutrac up there I have broken 1 cv so far.. And ive only done minimal trimming to the fenders even wiht GCR offset 15s. Back has a detroit, and Rovertracks bullet proof axles. cant have a heavy foot though, that was the main contributing factor to my cv break....

[Way]

If memory serves me correctly the rovertracks stuff has a lifetime warrenty. I don't think dumbass (AKA Bill Davis) would ever do that.

[Black Mustache]

yeah—HIM!

>smacking forehead.

[mightymg1]

Thats what we call GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE, and a GREAT COMPANY.. Finally somone who stands by there stuff.. I know Ive never been treated better!!!

[bowtracer]

Keith will go the extra MILE!

[revor]

You guys are making me blush!!! I go away for a few days and people are saying nice things about me!!!
Seriously I do try like hell to make sure the needs of the guys that want or do buy my stuff are met..
I like to treat folks the same way I like to be treated..

Once again Thanks!!

[ABrooks]

I can attest to both the quality of Keith's products and his customer service focus -- he caught a minor issue, contacted me, issued the call tag and had the right parts on their way to me before I'd even received the first one. And, he's more than willing to discuss options with you ad nauseum.

[mightymg1]

two thumbs up!!! :massey:

[aloharover]

You guys are making me blush!!! I go away for a few days and people are saying nice things about me!!!

Don't let it go to your head, most of its coming from newBs :flipoff2:

Just kidding,

Pete

[bowtracer]

:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Peter

[mightymg1]

Maybe a NOOb to your board, But im not a noob to rovers, custom shit or the wheelin game. You know Ive done a few things like hydra boost brakes, gm pumps, ohh I dont know stuff NOOBs do I guess! :)

[Buckon37s]

Maybe a NOOb to your board, But im not a noob to rovers, custom shit or the wheelin game. You know Ive done a few things like hydra boost brakes, gm pumps, ohh I dont know stuff NOOBs do I guess! :flipoff2:

Shut up noob! :flipoff2:

[mightymg1]

:D good times..

[darkstar]

Yeah Keith is the man allright. I feel it is my duty to spread the word, so he gets enough work, so he can finally quit that pesky day job, so he can babysit the lot of us full time. YEP.

[Junkyddog11]

Ok so while we are all singing praise Keith.

The man really goes the distance, even if you are a relentless pain in the ass who forgets the time diff from the east coast and wakes him up to ask silly questions,and then fawks up his installation tools. He'll still stay up late and get it done for you, and done right.

By the way Keith, the new bling misalignment spacers or whatever they're called work perfectly and this time I didn't roll the truck while testing them :D

[mightymg1]

Hey alex, did you get that pump in?? I want to make sure the shim instructions I sent ya worked out right, they have a bunch of different pumps with different pressures, If we need to change shims, more or less let me know so I can update the write up...:D

[DChapman]

the best upgrade using the stock rover housings is the Toyota swap from revor(www.rovertrack.com).

The best upgrade period would be something custom Hi9's, mog9's, pro-rock 60's etc depending on your application

How about this? Think I can make it work? http://www.virginia4x4.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/IMG_0680.jpg

[Serious One]

How about this? Think I can make it work? http://www.virginia4x4.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/IMG_0680.jpg

No, I don't think you can make it work. Better send it to me. :flipoff2:

[Buckon37s]

How about this? Think I can make it work? http://www.virginia4x4.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/IMG_0680.jpg


Actually, no, you can't. :flipoff2: The only way that you can fit hi-steer arms on a d-60 in the front of a rover is about 15in of lift. Either that, or you set up the front for 1in uptravel.

[DChapman]

Or run it upside down....:D

Actually, this one is going in a Heep. But, it's got me thinking. http://www.virginia4x4.org/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=31

[Buckon37s]

Or run it upside down....:D

Actually, this one is going in a Heep. But, it's got me thinking. http://www.virginia4x4.org/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=31

Ahh HAA!! Busted!

Get your filthy Jeep snuff out of our forum :flipoff2:

That is a beautiful axle though.

[Daan]

There was a very detailed story about a toy conversion on a disco a while ago. Can anyone post a link?

REgards, Daan

[revor]

I don't have the link but I have the instructions (modified a bit) based on that thread.

I can mail them to you if you e mail me.

[aloharover]

Actually, no, you can't. :flipoff2: The only way that you can fit hi-steer arms on a d-60 in the front of a rover is about 15in of lift. Either that, or you set up the front for 1in uptravel.

Why is that, do you have to move the panhard?

Pete

ps. I realise the axle pictured has the pumpkin on the wrong side.

[Buckon37s]

Why is that, do you have to move the panhard?

Pete

ps. I realise the axle pictured has the pumpkin on the wrong side.

This pic should kind of show the problem. This is with my 1 3/8 tierod mounted on top of the stock location. The pitman arm is not a rover but a modified Ford arm. It is 2.5in higher than a standard Rover arm, and I have 5in of lift. You can see that I have 4in clearance between the tie-rod and pitman arm. I have 5.5in straight uptravel. You see an issue there!? I am in the process of machining a new pitman arm that moves the tie rod to almost touching the frame with the stock brackets removed.

Now, with the front axle pushed foreword 3in the tie rod misses the panhard rod (modified). It only misses with my tires straight, it I turn the tie rod tucks further back and I smack the pitman arm. This only happens in straight stuff, never articulation. So, when I jump it, I have to land with the tires straight :grinpimp: If you mounted the axle in stock location, you have a big clearance issue with the panhard bracket even with the tie rod mounted under the stock ears. Now, take everything I just described and in your mind, move the tie rod up a full 5in due to hi-steer arms. In order to do that, with a modified pitman arm and assuming you fix the panhard issue, you would have to run about 15in of lift.

Long explanation to a simple question, sorry.

[Buckon37s]

Here is an easier to see one:

[tobbjo]

On the Challengerover, we moved the fram panhard mount to adress this issue. Still not 100%, but better than stock. This on Volvos, but the problem the same. Still need to limit uptravel by extending the bump stops 1-2".

T

[Agrover]

On the Challengerover, we moved the fram panhard mount to adress this issue. Still not 100%, but better than stock. This on Volvos, but the problem the same. Still need to limit uptravel by extending the bump stops 1-2".

T
Tobbjo and Wilsby,I apologise for getting you two mixed up, but about a year ago on Outerlimits I posted a couple of highlighted photos on how I relocated the Panhard rod on a 110 that I fitted Volvos to, so that I did not have to restrict uptravel. Do you remember them and if so are you able to retreive the pics and repost here ?
Bill.

[Buckon37s]

The panhard rod is not nearly the problem that the pitman arm is. You can move either the bracket or the axle pretty easy. Its much harder to move the steering box, or get the perfect arm for it.