Thought you might want to know how these guys really feel about us.

www.xterraownersclub.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=27;t=000568

This whole topic really interests me considering Superjens' statements in the Xterra video thread about different interests should be tolerated....yada, yada, yada. Hypocritical? You be the judge.

If you happen to click on the above link, pay attention to what xoc (Ian) has to say. This moderator/owner is a real piece of work.

Admittedly, I have a small history with Ian and that site and that's in part what prompted this post. That, and in addition, now the XOC members are scouring the earth to find video "evidence" of Chris Geiger harming "mother earth" by taking a shortcut on a seldom used trail by the Escalator at Moab during EJS this year to turn into the BLM. Do these guys even know what Tread Lightly principles and BLM's policies are regarding running over "6 to 9" tall brush"?? They also claim he ran over the "crust" in Moab's soil.

Sean

umm....link not workin.

hee hee :D

flexing the Xterra

Sorry, left out a zero in the addy.

I'll find the thread about Chris and post it too.
Sean

Xterra turns turtle

Originally posted by Sloan
flexing the Xterra
Should read: attempting to flex the Xterra :D. (that's a joke) And what do you pics have to do with the topic at hand? Not that there's anything wrong with them, but they're kinda off topic, don't cha think?
Sean

Originally posted by Sloan
Xterra turns turtle

DOH!! Good thing it's got the factory "ski rack" looking roll bar wanna be thing on it, huh?? Sure that saved a lot of $$$ in the roll. :flipoff2: :laughing:

Now where is my bud light?? :flipoff2:

GOOD THING XTERRAS COME WITH THAT NIFTY FIRST AID KIT, THEY'LL NEED IT AFTER A HARD CORE ROLL LIKE THAT:rainbow::flipoff2:

Good to see you Sean - you been in hiding? :p

I read the post a few days ago.

Real great group of high and mighties. :rolleyes:

Bunch whiney beetches if you ask me, someone pissed on their Latte runners and their panties are in a bunch.

If you don't own an X you will be banned from the site :p

Originally posted by Sean
Thought you might want to know how these guys really feel about us.

Sean

Who cares - as long as they are posting stuff on their board. This falls under the same category as not posting links and crap on JU. Let them be, and they'll let us be.

On the other hand, posting pictures of upside down xterras here is entertaining.

Whats real funny is I only read page 1 so far and already 2 people have called their Xterra's "minivan" and "station wagon".

Maybe they DO get it :)

this pisses me off, what the fuck they have a lil grudge because they caught some shit, so they want to send photos of 4wheelers harmin the earth, fuck sake people, if you have a problem with an individual take it to the individual, goin to the BLM is the dumbest thing I ever heard, "hey we are wheelers, and we want to help you fuck up our sport" god damn I am not accusing Chris, I am sure he is a responsible wheeler from what I know of him, but yes people fuck up and get off the trails, yes people fuck up and drop some shit, if we as wheelers go screaming to the assholes against wheelin because of a grudge, we might ass well just cut our own dicks off these fuckin arrogant xterra dicks are bent outta shape cause they didnt "fit in" wha wha wha, you wouldnt ride into a biker bar and tell them how capable your vespa is would you!

Thats good stuff.

PBB users are poor bastards, but somehow most people on here have tow rigs, trailers and trail rigs:laughing:

Fawk, I better go change some tires, lol....

Those are some "wheeling" pics I found on their site. I knew they'd be a hit.

I thought about getting an Xterra for my wife and the kids. I didn't know that they could get it like that though!:eek: :flipoff2:

PLEASE don't go over there and start a flame war. I've had enough of them jackasses coming over here and deteriorating the focus of this forum. Laugh at them all you want from a distance, but don't start/rekindle anything over there!

OK, I just gotta post this....."BIG AIR" or so it's called...check it out...:laughing:

http://www.2001frontier.com/bnguy/slabs/Xterra%20Jump.mpg

Originally posted by DRM
Good to see you Sean - you been in hiding? :p
Naw, just been wheeling alot, opening new trails (WITH BLM APPROVAL), and buying D60s. I hear you're doing the 60 swap too. Good to hear from ya. How's the baby?

Sean

Originally posted by CharlieH:
The guys posting over there(por) made us all look like assholes
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No, they made us look uninformed.


They're shit talkers and they are as arrogant as fuck.


hehe stir, stir

Originally posted by Sean

Naw, just been wheeling alot, opening new trails (WITH BLM APPROVAL), and buying D60s. I hear you're doing the 60 swap too. Good to hear from ya. How's the baby?

Sean

Yep - 60's all the way :P

Baby is fine, 13 mo. old now... and another on the way ;)

Originally posted by Lance
PLEASE don't go over there and start a flame war. I've had enough of them jackasses coming over here and deteriorating the focus of this forum. Laugh at them all you want from a distance, but don't start/rekindle anything over there!

Lance,
Don't worry. I'm not going over there to start anything (I've been banned not once, but twice from that website. Last time was b/c I didn't agree with Ian that a clinometer was useful for predicting a rollover!?!).

I agree with whoever said, just let them be. I just thought it was interesting how people's character changes when they think no one is around. Superjens says one thing here, and another at XOC. That's BS, and I'm just calling him so the guys on THIS site know what's up.

Hey congrats on Farmington. I heard you and Mike worked together really well. Good luck at the next event.
Sean

Originally posted by Lance
PLEASE don't go over there and start a flame war. I've had enough of them jackasses coming over here and deteriorating the focus of this forum. Laugh at them all you want from a distance, but don't start/rekindle anything over there!


Lance - I replied over there - hope you don't mind :colwn:

Nothing inflamatory - trying to calm the waters :)


I said it in the other thread, and will say it again - the Xterra thread here was :rainbow: and should have been at a minimum moved to ChitChat....


I can delete it if you want - just say the word :)

Originally posted by DRM



Lance - I replied over there - hope you don't mind :clown:

Nothing inflamatory - trying to calm the waters :)


I said it in the other thread, and will say it again - the Xterra thread here was :rainbow: and should have been at a minimum moved to ChitChat....


I can delete it if you want - just say the word :)

Originally posted by DRM


Yep - 60's all the way :P

Baby is fine, 13 mo. old now... and another on the way ;)
Damn, you guys ain't wastin' any time ;)

Hey, I don't know if anyone wasted the time to read all 5 pages of shite on that site, but they think tread lightly includes not scraping rocks with our steel bumpers/diffs/sliders. Seriously, since tread lightly says that you should leave the trail as you found it (taken to the extreme) rock scraping isn't following tread lightly nor is leaving rubber marks on Moab's slickrock. We really need to see about changing that or EVERY rock trail in the country should be closed due to rock scraping.

Oh, btw, the link at the top should work now. I think I fixed it.

Sean

I read all 5 pages... some interesting stuff, some crap....


What gets me is some admit to making fun of some other vehicles too - the exact same thing the others are saying we did here :confused:

Originally posted by DRM



Lance - I replied over there - hope you don't mind :colwn:

Nothing inflamatory - trying to calm the waters :)


I said it in the other thread, and will say it again - the Xterra thread here was :rainbow: and should have been at a minimum moved to ChitChat....


I can delete it if you want - just say the word :)

David,
I read what you wrote on XOC. I'd recommend you delete it. You and I are VERY much alike (I think you'll agree) and your reply is a very good one. However, you are entering into a discussion with someone (xoc-Ian) that cannot hold a rational discussion based on the facts at hand. He cannot refute each item and when he's losing the argument, he throws childish insults rather than discussing the issue at hand. Eventually, you'll be banned for no real reason. My humble recommendation is to just delete it and not waste your time with him. He's not worth it.
Two cents,
Sean

PS. If you do continue, I'll definitely read it. It should be pretty damn entertaining if nothing else. ;)

Well, he already replied :p


If nothing else, my comments there will be cordial, polite, and factual - and that is my intention. To present the exact opposite of the steretypes he has portrayed POR to be. To show that is it NOT like he has portrayed it to be...

I am quite sure any of the users there will be able to make their own informed decision at that point - and that is all I could ask :D

Believe me, I do NOT want to make POR BBS look bad..

Originally posted by BLUE TOY
GOOD THING XTERRAS COME WITH THAT NIFTY FIRST AID KIT, THEY'LL NEED IT AFTER A HARD CORE ROLL LIKE THAT:rainbow::flipoff2:

First aid kit ...... NO It's a Bike repair kit!:D

Originally posted by DRM

If nothing else, my comments there will be cordial, polite, and factual - and that is my intention.

I am quite sure any of the users there will be able to make their own informed decision at that point



David,
I know you will be cordial and polite as well as factual. I was pretty much all of that with Ian, even after the personal insults. What you fail to realize about that site is that the people that go there are freakin' sheep. They follow Ian blindly. They don't question any of his BS. There are only a few people there that are worth the time. I guess my point is don't go there expecting to change anyone's mind. Most (notice I said most; not all) of the people on that site are the most narrow minded bunch of self proclaimed 4wheelers I've ever had the misfortune to meet. Good luck with it though.
Take care,
Sean
PS. I read the latest installment on that thread. Just thought you'd like to know: I was not banned for anything violating the "Terms of Service" as someone stated as the only reason to ban someone. Basically, it boiled down to I kicked Ian's butt in an argument, and he didn't like it. He doesn't like anyone that he feels threatens him with more knowledge about wheeling. Watch out. YOU definitely fall into that category.

Sean, I have no intentions of changing anyone's mind...

We all know I just type to see myself talk :p:p:p:p:p

Besides, I need more BBS's to spread the cult of DRM ;)

As a full size mudbogger I am use to having run-ins with the arrogance of rock crawling Jeep owners. Its funny to me that the rockcrawler would have a nemesis that they would call "arrogant". I went to the site and read a few pages. Hell, I didnt know people like that existed!!! They are truly freaks far more worthy of ridicule than me and my redneck mullet wearing brothers (I actually dont know anyone with a mullet...anymore). Hell before I came to the Pirateboard I thought when you guys rolled over and spilled your coolers they were full of mineral water. Now I know there is a Mullet in all of us, just waiting to grow out!! I will take up arms with you (over some beer of course) to battle these Xterra freaks!! There is no trailer park or country back road safe for an Xterra!!!!!!!! LOL!!!:beer: :beer: :beer:

i really like the idea of those people having there own board. that way they can talk about how cool there pavement pounder is and how 'extreme' they are. i dunno why there has been so my flaming involved, personally i think we should just let them be, from what i understand there really isn't a huge number of these 'hardcore' xterra owners running around. anyhow, internet flaming is lame, if you really wanna get the point across, wait tell you see one of these clowns fawkin up a trail IRL then you can deside whats fit to do with them :D :D

My take on this whole Xterra thing is this.

About the time most land rover and range rover owners come around and somewhat stop pointing their noses into the sky...
Nissan goes out and creates this new 4wd grocery getter with a firstaid kit. next these Nissan creations attract a cross between star trekkies and econo snobs that feel they have recreated the whole concept of offroading.

It's only a matter of decades before the blue book value drops and all the payments are made on these exterras then these wacked out grocery getter owners discover wrecking yards and welders.

I might be giving tyhem too much credit with that last statement sorry :D

Originally posted by DRM
Sean, I have no intentions of changing anyone's mind...

We all know I just type to see myself talk :p:p:p:p:p

Besides, I need more BBS's to spread the cult of DRM ;)

Your posts were well put... a lot of that thread is typical old my truck is better then yours....taken to personally. Folks gotta get over that stuff.:D

I was puzzled by the fact that they seemed to use the term "redneck" in a derogatory way. I am reminded of the Jeep guys that turned down assistance from us because it was a Jeep thing that Landcruiser guys (3 of us) wouldn't understand. I replied, "What being broken down on the trail," hopped back in the 40 and finished the day trail riding. Poepl, people, people there are some in this world that need to get over themselves.

just let them be.

laugh at them all you want on p4x4 but don't post on their BB

Damn, I found DRM's posts on the X board thoughtful, nonprovoking, and downright courteous. WTF is your problem DRM, that's not you!!! :flipoff2:

They really hurt my feelings over there :crybaby2:

How could thet say such mean things. :crybaby2:


WHOA! What got in to me??? Their board must have gotten to me. At least I know where to go when I need a question about my loose cupholder answered..... :D :D :D

What a bunch of whiney :rainbow:

OK, I feel better now.......

hahahah...we are all rednecks...uneducated and only drink light beer? :D Sweet! I have to go say hi...I'll be nice though ;)

that socalpunkX guy seems to be ok. he said a few dumb things, but overall he seems to *get* what this board is about and is trying to make the other guys understand too. too bad they can't all be like that:rasta:
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fawk how long does it take to get a password over there? Does everything have to be as slow as an xterra over there :D j/k

As much differences that may exist between the worlds, these people are also our allies in the battle to save trails. Don't let differences of opinion get between us as this would certainly be a benefit to the greenies who would like nothing more than for us to fight amongst ourselves while they are out closing trails.

where's my damn password...I have some itchy typing fingers :D

Originally posted by Belly Dragger
As much differences that may exist between the worlds, these people are also our allies in the battle to save trails. Don't let differences of opinion get between us as this would certainly be a benefit to the greenies who would like nothing more than for us to fight amongst ourselves while they are out closing trails.

Well put I cound't agree more.

PS: SILLY, DON'T GET US INTO TROUBLE!!!!!

i was nice :d

Well, I was banned over at the "xterra owners club" NOT for anything I said there (in fact, it had been quite a while since I had posted anything there. I think the last post was to see if anyone wanted to run Raw Deal or Martinez Canyon with me), but I was banned for posting stuff OVER HERE! Isn't that rediculous? I sent Ian a PM and asked him to come wheelin with me and maybe we could settle our differences on the trails, but haven't gotten a PM back? Could he be scared or something? The Pathfinder isn't exactly the most trailworthy rig (ask crawler#976! I stripped a torsion bar anchor on basically the first obstacle!), but it can dish out quite a bit for being IFS.. (Coincidently, I have been meaning to get in touch with Kong's to get them to build me a spring hanger and shackle hanger for the swap.... Went yesterday but he was out running errands)
I'm glad you guys dish it out to the Xterras. All the other Nissan owners gotta deal with their huge heads. It's about time someone came along and popped a few balloons..

Originally posted by Belly Dragger
As much differences that may exist between the worlds, these people are also our allies in the battle to save trails. Don't let differences of opinion get between us as this would certainly be a benefit to the greenies who would like nothing more than for us to fight amongst ourselves while they are out closing trails.

Of course you think this way Michael, you drive an AMIGO:D

Now in my best Rodney King Accent...."Can't we all just get along"

Rich

Originally posted by Belly Dragger
As much differences that may exist between the worlds, these people are also our allies in the battle to save trails. Don't let differences of opinion get between us as this would certainly be a benefit to the greenies who would like nothing more than for us to fight amongst ourselves while they are out closing trails.

Well Said! Even though I think these guys are whining, arrogant bitches, If I saw one of them broken on the trail I would stop and lend a hand. We are all in this sport together, and we do have SOME common goals. They think we are "REDNECKS" we think they are "WHINING BITCHES", OK, whatever. :rolleyes:

Once again, if one of them was broken, I'd offer to help. If they were cocky, I'd treat them like an obstacle and look for the best line over the hood....., But it would be on a case-by-case basis.

Fact is, they are pretty damn amusing...:rasta: Maybe one day they will quit being worried about the cupholders, and really throw some mods at them..

BTW: We ARE right, they are WHINING BITCHES..... :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Belly Dragger
As much differences that may exist between the worlds, these people are also our allies in the battle to save trails. Don't let differences of opinion get between us as this would certainly be a benefit to the greenies who would like nothing more than for us to fight amongst ourselves while they are out closing trails.

Michael, I couldn't agree more with what you wrote when you're speaking of every single club, 4x4/offroad website, etc. I've ever met with or visited; EXCEPT the Xterra Owners Club. These guys think scraping rock with your bumper constitutes damaging the environment. Hell, before I went to their site and basically stated the same thing as you just did above, they didn't even have a Land Issues forum. Even now, it is barely used.

You have several owners over there that don't even go on trails, and bash those that do b/c they spent $20K on a vehicle and wouldn't dream of "tearing it up". No, these guys *most* are not interested in keeping trails open. They are too busy whining about spelling/grammar and arguing amongst themselves to have any interests in keeping trails open; especially ones they never plan on using.

From someone who spent some time there,
Sean

Who really gives a sh!t?

Originally posted by Indyguy
that socalpunkX guy seems to be ok. he said a few dumb things, but overall he seems to *get* what this board is about and is trying to make the other guys understand too. too bad they can't all be like that:rasta:

He called me last week, I invited him wheelin with a few if us to the Gorman area( So Cal ), kinda hoping he makes it out;)

BTW, any So Cal people that can't make the Meet and Greet in Truckhaven are more that welcome to join us next Sat the 20th. We're gonna do Lockwood and Yellowjacket, nothing core, just a fun day:D

Originally posted by Sean
Thought you might want to know how these guys really feel about us.

www.xterraownersclub.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=27;t=000568

This whole topic really interests me considering Superjens' statements in the Xterra video thread about different interests should be tolerated....yada, yada, yada. Hypocritical? You be the judge.

If you happen to click on the above link, pay attention to what xoc (Ian) has to say. This moderator/owner is a real piece of work.

Admittedly, I have a small history with Ian and that site and that's in part what prompted this post. That, and in addition, now the XOC members are scouring the earth to find video "evidence" of Chris Geiger harming "mother earth" by taking a shortcut on a seldom used trail by the Escalator at Moab during EJS this year to turn into the BLM. Do these guys even know what Tread Lightly principles and BLM's policies are regarding running over "6 to 9" tall brush"?? They also claim he ran over the "crust" in Moab's soil.

Sean

Bwahaha poor chris...to bad that they don't know that "shortcut" has been there since 1991 when me and a couple of freinds made it when we were 15....

what cracks me up is that the moderater posted this...
"Most work at Discount Tire or some other job that does not require a high school education."

bwahaa I hope I meet this guy in person down here...

ya know thought those xterra videos are the most UNTREAD lightly videos I have seen...

spinning tires on every little obstacle and going around hard stuff...stacking 20 tires in the crack and spinning rubber there...

people like them is why all the trails get 4 lanes wide and lower helldarodo is a freakin highway now..

Originally posted by Monkeyboy
My take on this whole Xterra thing is this.

It's only a matter of decades before the blue book value drops and all the payments are made on these exterras then these wacked out grocery getter owners discover wrecking yards and welders.

I might be giving tyhem too much credit with that last statement sorry :D

Don't know about the X but here's a some pics of a frontier owner that found a welder and junkyard.

Solid axle swap in June and 35's. Only posted here because I take offense to the "Redneck Bashing"... preffer "Good Ol' Boy" myself...that's me in the coveralls with the sawsall.

Redneck and his truck (http://www.wheelohio.com/mods/flatbed/Index.htm)

Oh, and McSoo: :flipoff2: for thinking your any better than anyone else you prick.

Okay, now I'll go away.....

MVM

what's wrong with bein a redneck?

it's a helluva lot better than a whiney bitch ;)

those xterra jockeys are just a bunch of bitches that don't get it. hell, if the admin of the board arbitrarily bans people because he's proven wrong, what does that say about them?

these kinda groups go under eventually

Boy, now that was some entertaing reading! Can you say "intimidated"? What a bunch of narrow minded bitches......

MVM man, you were cool up until that last statement. I liked your flatbed and what looks to be cool when it's done.

i'm a nissan owner like mcsoo who can't stand the way these xterra guys come off. thinking the x can do so much and they should talk shit anywhere tehy want. i dont post here because my path is pathetic compared to probably most of the rigs here. i'm just waiting for the money to do a sas, chop the top off, shorten the length, throw some 38's on there, and swap in an engine with a lot more power. i'm just getting sick of mcsoo taking shit on the nissan boards, because he helped a lot of people on those boards. this is probably the only time i'll post here until my path is a lot more trialworthy or until i get he money to buy some old patrol or landcruiser but i gotta say most of you guys have rigs i can only dream of right now.