: Trailer chains
TheTonka 04-17-2006, 05:17 PM It looks like it may be snowing thru Shasta when I make my trip up there next week. Since the new trailer (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=443323) is such a beast I was wondering if I should be chains for the trailer. I have chains for the superduty but have never towed a load like this thru snow. :eek: Anyone have experience with this?
I have most everything else taken care of, new hitch, new WD hitch, new parking brakes, alignment, new guages on the way, straight pipe exhaust :D , and a bunch of other stuff to ensure the truck is ready. I just want to make sure I can control this beast if things get nasty.
Any advice is appreciated. :D
StockChevy 04-17-2006, 06:55 PM I've got several 38' enclosed car haulers that I do chain up whenever I chain up the rig that's towing it. Just figure it's better to be safe than sorry...and if the tow rig needs them, the trailer probably does as well
4x4not 04-17-2006, 07:39 PM I have first-hand experience how much fun towing in the snow is... if you think you'll hit anything more than a dusting, get the chains. It should help keep the trailer from wanting to slide sideways and jackknife like mine did. Crunching the side of your bed in on a '05 truck sucks :mad:
Travis Waldher 04-17-2006, 08:06 PM Get the chains, for ALL axles, tow rig and trailer.
Yeah, a bitch to put on... but after experiencing a few trailer-low traction-thought I was gonna die events. I'm sold on chaining up in low traction situations.
In my case, it was a slimey ass mud trail with a steep downhill and a 4,000lb trailer (army trailer with a lot of rock) behind a 5,000lb jeep and no trailer brakes.
TheTonka 04-18-2006, 07:42 AM Thanks guys. I kinda figured those were the answers I would get. I just wanted clarification. With a 10K+ trailer thats 24' long and 13'+ tall I would rather be safe than sorry. I'm already nervous enough about this thing. This will be the largest trailer I have towed behind this or any vehicle, especially the tallest. That height gives it a LOT of leverage. :eek:
Just one more thing I gotta buy. :D
Kornfed 04-18-2006, 08:48 AM IIRC, if the road conditions require the tow vehicle to chain-up, all trailer axles with brakes, must be chained also.
TheTonka 04-18-2006, 08:53 AM IIRC, if the road conditions require the tow vehicle to chain-up, all trailer axles with brakes, must be chained also.
That would be all three axles on my trailer. :D
crashnzuk 04-18-2006, 10:36 AM Check the caltrans website, I think they list the chain requirements.
Travis..
Difficult Trail 04-18-2006, 10:39 AM IIRC, if the road conditions require the tow vehicle to chain-up, all trailer axles with brakes, must be chained also.
Must be the joke of the day!
Most times, my trailers(2) have 6 axles and my loaded weight is 105,000 lbs.
Just one axle needs chains, most times the last axle but you can staggered back to front (1-side-back axel, 1-side-front axle) when you have 2 or more axle group (talking about the trailer).
CA Chain Requirments (pdf) (http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/ChainRequire04.pdf)
Ore Chain Requirments (http://www.tripcheck.com/Pages/RCMap.asp?mainNav=RoadConditions&staticNav=MinChainReqs)
WA Chain Requirments (http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/commercialvehicle/diagram.htm) WA requires less chains then CA, Just 1 chain on the back trailer axle.
Mark
TheTonka 04-18-2006, 12:35 PM Must be the joke of the day!
Most times, my trailers(2) have 6 axles and my loaded weight is 105,000 lbs.
Just one axle needs chains, most times the last axle but you can staggered back to front (1-side-back axel, 1-side-front axle) when you have 2 or more axle group (talking about the trailer).
CA Chain Requirments (pdf) (http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/ChainRequire04.pdf)
Ore Chain Requirments (http://www.tripcheck.com/Pages/RCMap.asp?mainNav=RoadConditions&staticNav=MinChainReqs)
WA Chain Requirments (http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/commercialvehicle/diagram.htm) WA requires less chains then CA, Just 1 chain on the back trailer axle.
Mark
Sweet good info, thanks. :D
crashnzuk 04-18-2006, 08:10 PM CA Chain Requirments (pdf) (http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/ChainRequire04.pdf)
Mark
This is exactly the page I was talking about.
Travis..
ibrocun 04-18-2006, 08:23 PM I'm glad I clicked on this thread. I always assumed that since I have a four wheel drive tow rig that I would only need to chain the trailer. WRONG. Guess I'll have to plan on chaining the truck too.
It's not clear from that PDF if I would have to chain all four of my rear wheels on the dually, or if I could get away with two if it was in four wheel drive. I could also chain the front axle for that matter.
I've had the truck in the snow alot this year, but not with a trailer. I expect I'll be doing it more next year though.
Difficult Trail 04-19-2006, 10:20 AM I'm glad I clicked on this thread. I always assumed that since I have a four wheel drive tow rig that I would only need to chain the trailer. WRONG. Guess I'll have to plan on chaining the truck too.
It's not clear from that PDF if I would have to chain all four of my rear wheels on the dually, or if I could get away with two if it was in four wheel drive. I could also chain the front axle for that matter.
I've had the truck in the snow alot this year, but not with a trailer. I expect I'll be doing it more next year though.
I would chain the front axle as a last resort and need to get out of trouble.
For highway travel, it will shake a lot and give you the no control feeling.
If you go this route, get cables for the front.
For your dually, get dual (trucker jargon, 3 railers) chains. This is a chain that fits over both tires. You can make your own from a set of singles if you can't find them pre-made for light trucks. Just be sure to size it to new tires.
Mark
70~K5 04-19-2006, 04:46 PM I'm glad I clicked on this thread. I always assumed that since I have a four wheel drive tow rig that I would only need to chain the trailer. WRONG. Guess I'll have to plan on chaining the truck too.
It's not clear from that PDF if I would have to chain all four of my rear wheels on the dually, or if I could get away with two if it was in four wheel drive. I could also chain the front axle for that matter.
I've had the truck in the snow alot this year, but not with a trailer. I expect I'll be doing it more next year though.
I've gotten away with just chaining the outside rears on a dually and chaining 1 brake axle on the trailer. But at other times I've chained all 4 wheels on a jeep to get in and out of our cabin above Soda Springs.
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