: Effects of toe on tire wear


Welby
04-10-2002, 06:04 PM
I just had 35" Grabber MT's mounted up last fall, and today I noticed that my front tires are wearing like crazy on the inside, like there's not enough camber or something. Thing is, with TJ's, it's not adjustable... The rear tires are still like brand new.
Would improper toe have this kind of effect on wear? In January, I reset my toe to be 1/8" in... Keep in mind this was simply by measuring the distance bewtween the same lugs, front and back, using a tape measure. I'm sure it's not the most accurate method in the world, but it can't be that far off.
What a crock of shit! I'll be buying a new set of tires every summer at this rate :mad3:. Any opinions other than "Grabber MT's suck" :flipoff2:, would be appreciated :D

Mark

road1will
04-10-2002, 06:27 PM
hey Mark :flipoff2:

start with having the truck professionally aligned, then start to rotate the tires. LF to RR, RF to LR.

oh yeah, and Grabber MTs suck :flipoff2: :p

flimmy
04-10-2002, 06:33 PM
Hey,I had Grabber MT's on my 84 Toyota truck and they wore great until Digger got them. Mine wore flat accross on all 4 and I never had the truck aligned. But I did have the tires rotated & balanced every 3k miles. The rotation and balancing was part of the road hazzard warranty.

4x4junkie
04-11-2002, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by Welby
I just had 35" Grabber MT's mounted up last fall, and today I noticed that my front tires are wearing like crazy on the inside, like there's not enough camber or something. Thing is, with TJ's, it's not adjustable... The rear tires are still like brand new.
Would improper toe have this kind of effect on wear?

Mark
Yep.

You're wheels are toed out by your tire wear description. They are being dragged sideways a bit as you roll down the road causing the wear on the inside edge.

I have used the tape measure method with good results. It definately is imperitive you do make sure you are measuring from identical tread blocks, though.
I also roll the vehicle's tires 180 deg. to eliminate any slight wobble variations and measure it again, averaging the two. Good quality tires are usually true.

KAcrawler
04-11-2002, 07:52 AM
i heard somewhere that for every one or two degrees that your tires are off of true it is like dragging them sideways 100 ft for every mile you drive.

JasonTJ
04-11-2002, 07:56 AM
Your Toe is off. I set my toe in to compensate for some death wobble, altough it worked, it ruined to BFG MT's. Fet it professionally aligned.

badassjeepguy
04-11-2002, 08:00 AM
hmmmm when i tow, i get no tire wear on my jeep.... :D lol

Welby
04-11-2002, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by badassjeepguy
hmmmm when i tow, i get no tire wear on my jeep.... :D lol

Baaaaaaaaaaaaa :flipoff2:

The Rockslut
04-11-2002, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by swamper502
i heard somewhere that for every one or two degrees that your tires are off of true it is like dragging them sideways 100 ft for every mile you drive.


Crank and Chrome tech tip :flipoff2: :D

I heard it too!

KAcrawler
04-11-2002, 02:13 PM
ok whatever im sure they heard it from some one too:flipoff2:
i would never watch something as gay as chrak and chrome

The Rockslut
04-11-2002, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by swamper502
ok whatever im sure they heard it from some one too:flipoff2:
i would never watch something as gay as chrak and chrome

You are just trying to CYA! :rainbow: I bet you bought one of their shirts too! :laughing: :flipoff2:

Besides, you are just bitter that they changed it from ShadeTree Mechanic!

Welby
04-11-2002, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by The Rockslut


Besides, you are just bitter that they changed it from ShadeTree Mechanic!

I know I am :D...

BTW my tires were toed out 2 fawkin inches :eek:...Wonder why they were wearing funny :rolleyes:... Here's the deal, and yes, I'm an idiot. When I set the toe the last time, I had the front tires jacked off the ground... Perfect in the air, yes. but once back on the ground, all fawked up... That's the only reason I could think of for being that fawked up....

TODDK
04-12-2002, 01:40 AM
WELBY
Hey how about your adjustments washer set up on the tj I think the lower control arms, maybe upper but they will help alittle, I forget where you live but I could give you a hand.
TK

badassjeepguy
04-12-2002, 04:58 AM
you talkin cam bolts? they are on the lower and set up caster.... :D

Welby
04-12-2002, 07:17 AM
Todd,

I have the adjustable RE uppers, but it's safe to say I narrowed the problem down to my retarded 2" out toe setting :D

MattS
04-12-2002, 10:02 AM
DAMN!! On my XJ I did my own alignment after the lift. I started out with zero. It would wander and had very bad death wobble. I just did the toe-in 2 turns and drive it till it felt tight and the death wobble was gone. It ended up a little over 1/8. 12,000 miles on my MT's and no tire wear. But I rotate mine every 3000. :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Welby
Todd,

I have the adjustable RE uppers, but it's safe to say I narrowed the problem down to my retarded 2" out toe setting :D