: Body lift vs Suspension!


ronhallam
05-01-2006, 10:53 AM
I plan on driving my 1992 Wrangler YJ daily to work. 100 miles roundtrip. But on weekends plan on going offroad, but NOT rock climbing.
I want to use the original size tires like 235 x 15.
So my question is: Would a 2" body lift work for this setup or would a 2" suspension lift work better? :) Tnx, Ron

SanDiegoCJ
05-01-2006, 10:59 AM
Get some 2 1/2" lift springs.

90yj
05-01-2006, 11:06 AM
why would you want to do a body lift or any lift with stock tires?

ronhallam
05-01-2006, 11:11 AM
What gives me a little more clearance for when I do go offroad? Suspension or tires size?

ronhallam
05-01-2006, 11:12 AM
Springs only????

phattdraggon
05-01-2006, 11:13 AM
Get some 2 1/2" lift springs.

what he said. but if you are staying with the same size tires why do youneed to lift it. you are just making it more unstable and not improving the offroad capability very much. i would also recomend going with a rim with 3.5'-3.75' backspacing. this will give you more stability offroad over stock rims. (but your tires will stick out a little more).

ronhallam
05-01-2006, 11:23 AM
So to just put on 2 1/2 " lift springs and that's it? New to this! Is the back spacing a SPACER you buy or is this built into the rim? Tnx!

ronhallam
05-01-2006, 11:27 AM
Is this the same as a SPRING over Kit, they cost around $75.00??

BrokeYJ
05-01-2006, 01:19 PM
Springs are not the same as a spring over. A spring over does not nessessarily replace the springs, it just relocates them and is good for a minimum of 5'. A suspension kit will replace the springs and lift the body and frame up but the springs are in the stock location. A body lift will only lift the body. In order to lift the axles you will have to get larger tires.

Adam3000
05-01-2006, 04:49 PM
I've had a jeep Cj7 for 8 years. I had a 3 inch body lift which clears 33 inch tires no problem and the 33inch tires will raise your differential giving you more ground clearance. A 2inch body lift is not needed if your tires are 235 r75 x15 or what ever. You don't need anything. A 3 inch body lift will run you about 100 bucks plus a mechanic to do it. You will also have to increase your clutch rod 3 inches by just cuttiing it and welding in a 3inch rod the right place on it. I recently removed my 3 inch body and paid my mechanic to put on a 2 1/2 inch BDS (brand name) suspension lift which ran me 650 bucks ... chi ching, just for the kit.

upnorthbacon
05-01-2006, 06:03 PM
I put a 2" body lift on my 98 TJ. I actually used the stock mounts and put the 2" on top which gave me 2 3/4". I can clear 33x12.5 disconnected with no major rubbing (A little on the plastic flare but I could trim it if I needed). It doesn't look as nice, I'm currently having bumper's fabbed which will stick up higher to cover the gap from the body to the frame. I don't do rocks, just mud sand, and some off trail stuff. I simply wanted more ground clearance by running larger tires. I've also ran a 2" spring suspension lift. It rode stiffer because of the stiff (Cheapo) shocks that came with the kit. When disconnected I had a lot more droop and much better articulation. My body lift cost around $90 and had everything needed to put it on. I had to heat up my shifter (Stick) and bend it so it would not hit the column. It took me a few hours and I did it by myself. The suspension lift was around $250 w/springs and shocks. Our current insurance carrier will not insure a vehicle with a suspension lift so you might want to check into your carrier. Hope this answers some of your questions.

VTechTJ
05-01-2006, 06:52 PM
Bigger tires allow greater clearance.....lift kits, both body and suspension kits, allow for bigger tires, suspension lifts use bigger springs that lift the frame and body higher allowing greater flexibility due to longer traveling springs...

Body lifts raise the body and not the frame. With a body lift it is possible to run larger tires but the suspension will be completely unchanged and will work/flex the same as it did stock.

In your case I would either recommend a small body lift that will be very inexpensive and allow for slightly larger tires

a 2.5" suspension kit involves new springs, new shocks, new brake lines, and possibly a t-case spacer.....when you are ready for an upgrade and want to run significatly larger tires I would then think about purchasing a suspension kit to suppliment your body kit.

ronhallam
05-02-2006, 07:02 AM
Thank You ! Since this is the newbie section your the first person that gave me a direct and clear answer to my question! Thanks again!