What is better for my jeep tj? I want to run 33x9.50's.


What gives with all these gay shit vs. shit posts? search it, learn it, live it.:flipoff2: :confused:

Originally posted by Aggro
What is better for my jeep tj? I want to run 33x9.50's.


What gives with all these gay shit vs. shit posts? search it, learn it, live it.:flipoff2: :confused:

Excuse me..............do you have a problem with my D70? You just called it shit. I am offended.

Which color of pink would help me rollover better :flipoff2:

Well, the Dana 70 is clearly the better axle. Afterall, it's two times as big as 35.

Originally posted by Mo
Well, the Dana 70 is clearly the better axle. Afterall, it's two times as big as 35.

BWAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHA! :laughing:

Originally posted by Mo
Well, the Dana 70 is clearly the better axle. Afterall, it's two times as big as 35.

OK, but how does that compare to an 8.8 - is there some sort of metric conversion? :D

Originally posted by oldjeep


OK, but how does that compare to an 8.8 - is there some sort of metric conversion? :D

So does this mean that the 10.5 Sterling isn't that much stronger than the 8.8, since the 70 is twice as good as the 35???????????

Are there any 17.6's out there?

funny, I was going to do the post comparing to a dana 135. Hows that math work out?!?!

AAHHH man! You guys have me all mixed up now!

My owners manual doesn't say anything about this stuff.
Can someone help?

I was never offered the labia or clit pink option and I can only find information on the Portal 35 and nothing about the D135. Am I screwed or can I just flip my housing upside down and make it reverse cut?? :confused:

Who is this Dana chick everyone keeps talking about?

is she 30, 35 or 70 or is it her mom that is 70.

and are pink gears stronger than :rainbow: gears or are they the same :flipoff2:

the super 35 is the best axle ever made.:rasta: Dana 70's are for pussies

The problem with the Dana 70 is that it causes your chrome nerf bars to hang 1 1/2" lower then with a Dana 35c:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Weezer
The problem with the Dana 70 is that it causes your chrome nerf bars to hang 1 1/2" lower then with a Dana 35c:flipoff2:

No, I thought the problem with the Dana 70 was that chrome differential covers for it are so hard to find...

And have you ever tried to find gold Fittipaldi rims with an 8-lug pattern??? Impossible!!!


:flipoff2: :D :smokin: :rasta:

ony if you have a reverse rotation 70 with and opposite rotation drive shaft.

Originally posted by LAME
ony if you have a reverse rotation 70 with and opposite rotation drive shaft.

How can I tell if its full float or not? Will it have c-clips?


Here is my favorite:
"Will 15" rims fit on my 14 bolt? "

Will a 4 lug wheel from my geo metro fit on the dana 135 rear without grinding the calipers? I want to run a 12" wheel with my 42" swampers. That way I'll get more sidewall to flex like mad.

Originally posted by Dan-H
Who is this Dana chick everyone keeps talking about?

is she 30, 35 or 70 or is it her mom that is 70.

and are pink gears stronger than :rainbow: gears or are they the same :flipoff2:

They have pink gears? I thought they only made rods??

if they are reverse cut, can I drive it in 4 wheel drive on the freeway, or can I only go backwards in 4 wheel drive:confused:

Originally posted by Dan-H
Who is this Dana chick everyone keeps talking about?


Its a guy man.....all you are :rainbow: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by The Rockslut


How can I tell if its full float or not?

Well...DUH:rolleyes:

Put it in the bath tub and see if it floats...sheesh!

Originally posted by LAME


Well...DUH:rolleyes:

Put it in the bath tub and see if it floats...sheesh!

I dunno 'bout where ya'll are from...but 'round these parts, the bath tub is to clean tranny parts only!

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rasta:

Originally posted by Scout Dude


I dunno 'bout where ya'll are from...but 'round these parts, the bath tub is to clean tranny parts only!

You're supposed to use the dish washer in the kitchen for that...

Originally posted by Mo


You're supposed to use the dish washer in the kitchen for that...

the old lady. I don't have one of them new-fangled contraptions.

In all seriousness guys I was thinking of running a spring over axle setup. How do you do this? Can someone take me through it step by step and tell me exactly what parts to buy.

Originally posted by attachcurrie
In all seriousness guys I was thinking of running a spring over axle setup. How do you do this? Can someone take me through it step by step and tell me exactly what parts to buy.


ALRIGHT! Someone show him to the door!

We had a good technical conversation going until this. Why do you bring this unserious, out of scope question to this thread?

:flipoff2:

Originally posted by attachcurrie
In all seriousness guys I was thinking of running a spring over axle setup. How do you do this? Can someone take me through it step by step and tell me exactly what parts to buy.


:rainbow:

Originally posted by attachcurrie
In all seriousness guys I was thinking of running a spring over axle setup. How do you do this? Can someone take me through it step by step and tell me exactly what parts to buy.

Parts? What parts...just flip the axle over and bolt the springs to the pads which are now on top!

Don't know how to get the driveline to cross over though...maybe a 2 piece could reach.

Originally posted by Mo


You're supposed to use the dish washer in the kitchen for that...

Is her name Dana?

Originally posted by Dan-H


Is her name Dana?

:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

What if I use two D35s in tandem? Will it be as strong as a D70?

Also you add ice cream to make an axle float.:D

Originally posted by Scout Dude


Parts? What parts...just flip the axle over and bolt the springs to the pads which are now on top!

Don't know how to get the driveline to cross over though...maybe a 2 piece could reach.

I like this idea, then I would have reverse ROTATION axles right? That would be a major bonus!

thats what i did. got rev rotation and spring over and put the steering over the springs! god where have you laggers been!:p

whats a c-clip?

i think my wife uses those in her hair?;)

My dishwashers name is Tonya. *Looks over his shoulder*

I like 44's on my dd.....errr......I like 44 dd's .what were we talking about :confused:

Originally posted by Grandpa Jeep
What if I use two D35s in tandem? Will it be as strong as a D70?

Yes, sheeze just do the math. Two Dana30's = Dana60
Two Dana35's = Dana70
For GM axles just drill and tap 4 holes in a 10 bolt to make it a 14 bolt and so on............

Originally posted by doctor_G

For GM axles just drill and tap 4 holes in a 10 bolt to make it a 14 bolt and so on............

Yes, but do you drill and tap into the cover or the ring gear?

looks like this topic has turned into some major padding..should be moved to chit-chat...what do i know though i be just a newbie.:zzz:

not a padfest...:flipoff2: ...very serious topic

Originally posted by Grandpa Jeep


Yes, but do you drill and tap into the cover or the ring gear?

I'm sorry for the confusion, I should have been more specific.
Actually you drill, tap and bolt the spider gears for a locker.
Then just epoxy 4 bolt heads to the cover for "looks"

Originally posted by trickrock
looks like this topic has turned into some major padding..should be moved to chit-chat...what do i know though i be just a newbie.:zzz:

Speak for yourself newgie. :flipoff2:
This IS a serious topic.

Originally posted by doctor_G

Yes, sheeze just do the math. Two Dana30's = Dana60
Two Dana35's = Dana70
For GM axles just drill and tap 4 holes in a 10 bolt to make it a 14 bolt and so on............

So if I drilled and tapped 4 more holes in a 14 bolt making it a 18-bolt just imagine the strength.....:eek:

Another thing I was wondering you know how yall were saying you can flip and axle and make it Reverse cut.... dont forget the fact that it would also make it a high pinion...if it were a low pinion to begin with

Classic "shoulda used 2 D35's instead of a 60" example

You guys aren't even comparing apples to apples, the D35 is the front axle on most jeeps while the D70 came stock on the rear of fullsize rigs.

A more fair comparision would be the D30 to a TJ D44.

You guys aren't even comparing apples to apples, the D35 is the front axle on most jeeps

bawahahahahahahaha

I hope that newbie is just trying to be funny

ATTENTION! For all the newbies that are trying to be funny............you need to be VERY sarcastic if you are posting on this thread. We dont know if you are being stupid or making an attempt to be funny.

OK, back to the fun.

Originally posted by Beast40
You guys aren't even comparing apples to apples, the D35 is the front axle on most jeeps while the D70 came stock on the rear of fullsize rigs.

A more fair comparision would be the D30 to a TJ D44.

I still can't figure out if this guy was serious or not:confused:

Originally posted by The Rockslut
I can only find information on the Portal 35 and nothing about the D135
Aww fawk, now u gotta be makin fun of my portal 35 WTF, I worked my ass off to put those early VW bus reduction boxes on the ends of that POS, and now u have to make fun of it:crybaby2:
I suppose u are gunna make fun of my custom 14 bolt front too, it took me 20 minutes to drill and tap those 4 holes, and it was the most worthwhile mod I've ever made, all the strength of a 14 bolt w/ the clearance of a 10 bolt!!!!! What next, you guys are gunna start making fun of my custom 12" chrome plated bodylift , or maybe the laquered oak 6" lift blocks I used!!!!! :crybaby2: :crybaby2:
Now is that sarkastik enough for ya, or do you want me to build ya a custom portal 35 for ya??:flipoff2: :D

Originally posted by RCKRATZ


I still can't figure out if this guy was serious or not:confused:

you sure are easily confused :flipoff2:

You guys aren't even comparing apples to apples, the D35 is the front axle on most jeeps while the D70 came stock on the rear of fullsize rigs.

A more fair comparision would be the D30 to a TJ D44.

I'm beginning to think he was serious:eek:

Man this thread got too serious for me:rolleyes: I think I'm gonna go do some 4 wheel drive burnouts in my jeep now:D It has a blown 454 that I swapped in front of my ax-15. I also have an np231 with a dana 30 and a dana 35c both with detroit lockers:D I love my beast it goes anywhere and is totally indestructible:flipoff2:

hmmm....i was wondering if i should swap some ifs axles off an aztec into myjeep soi could get a better highway ride and less vibes? that would be better than either straight axle you guys are vonsidering...wouldnt it?:smokin:

Originally posted by bigdude


I'm beginning to think he was serious:eek:

That makes about 4-6 of us that think that :rolleyes:

can you make a dually axle out of a 35. I think thats how you make a 70.

I lick myself!

so I've been thinking about losing the d30 that I have in the front of my jeep (no, I can't afford two d35's for the front, I'm not made of money), can anybody walk me through an IFS conversion??? I have some donor 'yota parts that I think will fix all my woes:flipoff2:

You guys are hilarious, just because I don't have many post doesn't mean I don't know sh!t about jeeps.

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by desertCJ
Man this thread got too serious for me:rolleyes: I think I'm gonna go do some 4 wheel drive burnouts in my jeep now:D It has a blown 454 that I swapped in front of my ax-15. I also have an np231 with a dana 30 and a dana 35c both with detroit lockers:D I love my beast it goes anywhere and is totally indestructible:flipoff2:

That setup can easily handle the power although I feel a Peugeot BA10 and NP207 would be better. just my .02.

That does not hold true with all newbies

Originally posted by Beast40
You guys are hilarious, just because I don't have many post doesn't mean I don't know sh!t about jeeps.

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then why did you say the D35 was in the front? :flipoff2:
We where trying to be serious.











Hehehe. :D

Originally posted by Weezer
That does not hold true with all newbies


True

Originally posted by HighHooder
can anybody walk me through an IFS conversion???

come awn HeyDareHighDareHoDareHooder, you should know that IFS can only be put in the rear ;)

will tracker axles work?

only if you narrow both axles 4". that will give you the proper "stuff" into the wheelwell.:beer:

Originally posted by FULLSIZE
only if you narrow both axles 4". that will give you the proper "stuff" into the wheelwell.:beer:

4 :eek: You are runnin a little too close to full width for me.....I like a nice solid 41 inch WMS to WMS ;)

41WMS-WMS with 2" backspace wheels. perfect.......................;)

yea i tried the 10 bolt to 14 bolt conversion but nobody makes the chrome diff cover for this i quess i screwed up i quess i ll just bolt my 35 back on

try currie. they got enough sparkle around their shop to make something as cool as that cover.:laughing:

We've been going about this all WRONG!
The ultimate wheeler is that off-road trike that they built on Junkyard Wars.
Motorcycle front end and motorcycle chain drive. :eek:
Dare to dream. :rolleyes:
So the best parts aren't off that 1 ton truck at the junkyard they're off that old Honda in the backyard shed. :flipoff2:

ya, i'm goin with the light weight thing also. drilled my axle tubes to keep the weight down. now i just got to figure out how to keep gear oil in it.:confused: how much low range is the ULTIMATE if i go to a 3cyl. metro motor?

Originally posted by FULLSIZE
ya, i'm goin with the light weight thing also. drilled my axle tubes to keep the weight down. now i just got to figure out how to keep gear oil in it.:confused:

Maybe get a remote oil filter set up for the Metro motor but just bypass the filter and run the lines to the axle from the oil pump.
Easier to check the oil level that way as long as you get a chrome dipstick.

now i just have to figure out how to keep oil in the metro motor? wait, i have a steel horses polished fag rack on top of my roll bar(does anyone know how to weld in a roll CAGE?) and i can put a bunch of 1qt jugs up there to feed the engine oil. wait, i should mount them under the vehicle to lower the center of gravity. in that case i can use the lowering blocks off my mini truck to lower my center of gravity. wait i have this all out of order, i better start another thread on this....................can you read this you fawkin lamo's that dont know what the fawk your doing!!!!!!!!!:p

You need a lightweight vehicle for offroading, thats why I wrapped my stryofoam nerf bars with aluminum foil. The great look of chrome, but atleast 0.6 HP increase with all that weight taken off.

Originally posted by nmujeepin
whats a c-clip?


it holds your rear axle in place, my friend had his pass him on the road while driving and then all the sudden his tj dropped down on the rear housing d35=crap.

If the d35 is that much better than a 70 I'll go with it
:emb:
My only concern is with clearance. Can you shave a 35?
and if so how much?

Originally posted by Bonestripper
My dishwashers name is Tonya. *Looks over his shoulder*

I once knew a girl named Toyna, she lived in Washington
Got any pics?

tonyas, in my opinion are good but nothing competes with my lisa! she also washes my...........................:evil: :D

so buy an IFS Aztec then flip the axles and create High pinion IFS right?

Originally posted by Jeepasaurus
You need a lightweight vehicle for offroading, thats why I wrapped my stryofoam nerf bars with aluminum foil. The great look of chrome, but atleast 0.6 HP increase with all that weight taken off.

Hey buddy, you been spyin on me? You stole that idea when you saw my foil diff covers on my quad 35s.

Can I go home now?:D

Originally posted by dangerranger33
so buy an IFS Aztec then flip the axles and create High pinion IFS right? yes but you must use the frpont in the rear and the rear in the front....something about high pinions and reverse cut:flipoff2:

i accually haven't had to work on my 70 at all. its kinda boring. anyone have a 35 they want to trade? just had to bring this one back up:D

I have a D27 that I would trade...but I don't want a boring axle:flipoff2:


The day this tread started was funny as fawk!:D

Originally posted by pitter



it holds your rear axle in place, my friend had his pass him on the road while driving and then all the sudden his tj dropped down on the rear housing d35=crap.



:question: :question: :question:



I thought my new white vinyl dyed seats held my axle in? at least they do when I'm going as fast as my white faced speedo, it says I can go 160 . It makes me scared and gives me a funny feeling in my butt.

gives me a funny feeling in my butt. i thought there was something funny about you steve :rainbow:
:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Steve N

:question: :question: :question:
I thought my new white vinyl dyed seats held my axle in? at least they do when I'm going as fast as my white faced speedo, it says I can go 160 . It makes me scared and gives me a funny feeling in my butt.

Steve it is obvious that you dont know a thing about Jeeps. Its not your seats that hold your axle in, its the carpet. :D Dont you remember the thread regarding the legality of removing the carpet from your Jeep?

legality of removing the carpet from your Jeepi thought that was illegal? kinda like taking that tag off your mattress. ;)

this was some funny shit before the newbies :flipoff: it all up:rolleyes:

Trailhawg:fj:

It's even funnier reading some of the joke replies like th C clip guy. :rolleyes: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by FULLSIZE
i thought there was something funny about you steve :rainbow:
:flipoff2:


I thought you said my ass looked smaller wit the white upholstery. And now you out me :rainbow: I'm never going to help you put the the dubs on your cute Jeepy thing now.:flipoff2:

when i said the white makes your ass look smaller, i was just trying to get that scrambler tub from you. sorry:(

what, no poll?

Doh!!!! You have a Dana rear end missing the polles? I think you will need a high floater kit so you can bolt on your wheels.

Ladies and Gentlemen, Now that you have my attention!

I took out my carpet, the next day got pulled over by the man and he said I had to have it so my feet wouldn't slip on the floor.

He also said I needed shoes to drive.

He also said that the red shock boots keep the water out better than the yellow shock boots.

Then I said, How do you know this?

Guess what he said.....

Originally posted by Bert
He also said that the red shock boots keep the water out better than the yellow shock boots.

Then I said, How do you know this?

Guess what he said.....

What he say?? C'mon man, the suspense is killin' me :flipoff2:

He said that he had a jeep too and went to a Jeep Jamboree and learned that the red boots were better.

I think he ment redwing boots... Not shock boots. :D

i agree that the red shock boots are better, but the yellow matches my paint and fuzzy dice yo!;)

Originally posted by FULLSIZE
i agree that the red shock boots are better, but the yellow matches my paint and fuzzy dice yo!;)

I bet your axle falls out all the time:rolleyes:

Shock boots are supposed to match to pool ball shifter knobs, that match your accent color on your junk. Dice match the body color...DUH!:flipoff2:

:emb: i'll get it right one of these days.:p

Originally posted by Mo
Well, the Dana 70 is clearly the better axle. Afterall, it's two times as big as 35.

I have a Dana 41 in my 2A...Does this mean I'll need to find an 82 to get twice as good?:smokin:

i demand a poll on shock boot color preference! or how about how to make my jeep flex? oh wait i thought this was idea's for topic of the week.:flipoff2:

ok as far as I know nothin holds the axle in in a heep, :p :p :p :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :zzz: :zzz: :nuke:

thats all you could come up with? WEAK! go back and play with your no balls having, rubber band engined, 8 cases to get it to crawl coke can on wheels:p

TTT:flipoff2: (I missed this post!)

Originally posted by Joel K®
TTT:flipoff2: (I missed this post!)

BAHAHHAA Jeep talk is about to take a serious turn for the worse today :D :flipoff2:

D35-D60 Detroit-14 Bolt
http://www.carolina-performance.com/club/gallery/Jon/Swap/IMG_2234.JPG

Clearly you can see the beef of the D35, its a tough decision to make vs. a 14 bolt FF :flipoff2:

Figured I'd be the sacrificial newbie this time around...


so buy an IFS Aztec then flip the axles and create High pinion IFS right?

If you flip an Aztec does it look better...?

Clearly you can see the beef of the D35, its a tough decision to make vs. a 14 bolt FF

So if I see the photo correctly, They all cost a quarter?

Hell 35's are lighter than the D60 and 14b that should count for something....no?

Originally posted by 1RUSTYRIG


I have a Dana 41 in my 2A...Does this mean I'll need to find an 82 to get twice as good?:smokin:

Sooooo........

I think I follow this, what I need is a Dana 88, to swap into my Rubicon to make it a real Dana 44 all the way out to the rotors, right? The part I don't get is how puttin 14 bolts in the axle helps make it stornger, but hey, you guys know more than me. I think I have 14 bolts around here, left over from when I put the chrome Steel Horse steps on (those 31's make it really hard to get in). Bolts are the ones with the pointy ends, right?

you all need to go on a snow run or something you have way too much time on your hands.
My .02 at least the 35 is lighter
Which if you have the 31's make my ass look fat problem then your a lot better off with the 35;)

[Something abotu Mary voice on] NO!!!!! Not 6 minute abs...7....7 is the magic number [Something about mary voice off]

Damn I missed this thread! So... to double my axle strengths, Id need a Dana 60 up front (seems logical) and whats the metric double of the 8.8? A 17.6 for the rear.. That should be plenty strong, making the rear stronger than a 14 bolt and a sterling 10.25 right ???? :confused: :flipoff2:
Scott

OK i think i am finally starting to get it now, but has anyone figured out if it is further to California or by bus?

Originally posted by RCKRATZ
OK i think i am finally starting to get it now, but has anyone figured out if it is further to California or by bus?

Or if the elusive 17.6 is CA smog legal? :rolleyes:

a classic debate........reborn :flipoff2:

Do I need a 3 inch body lift and a 2 inch shackle lift to clear 24 inch rims on my YJ

and how will that run with 3.18 gears in my 30/35 HARDCORE combo

You will need custom made 2.77's with an over drive to push the weight of those rims ;)

You also have to have a really big chrome fart can muffler:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Jeepasaurus
You need a lightweight vehicle for offroading, thats why I wrapped my stryofoam nerf bars with aluminum foil. The great look of chrome, but atleast 0.6 HP increase with all that weight taken off.

I was also thinking of cross drilling my brake lines to make them run a bit cooler?

I have an XJ with high under hood temps, maybe I can bore out a couple of large diameter holes in my radiator, so more air can go through and cool my squarrals:flipoff2:

what you guys think:confused:

Personally, I'm going to try some of those billet aluminum body lift pucks... preferably anodized red.

Originally posted by blackyj95
Do I need a 3 inch body lift and a 2 inch shackle lift to clear 24 inch rims on my YJ

and how will that run with 3.18 gears in my 30/35 HARDCORE combo

That sounds phat and all, but it is out of my budget range. Does anyone have pictures of a YJ rollin on dubs? Maybe a video with the spinning rims?

Originally posted by Robert
You also have to have a really big chrome fart can muffler:flipoff2: actually if you get a maxwell house can you can polish that. Works pretty good.:flipoff2:

Maybe a video with the spinning rims?

I saw my first set of those today... funny $hit man! I'm wondering if I can beadlock a set for my flatty... ultimate bling! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Peabody


I saw my first set of those today... funny $hit man! I'm wondering if I can beadlock a set for my flatty... ultimate bling! :flipoff2:

There's a bunch of them around here. I can appreciate if that is what the person wants.....I guess. Sad when there's a navigator with rust from lack of care sporting rims that must have cost 6K. Then some spin better than others....lack of maintenance. Some people can fuck anything up, even looking gawdy.

If I run a "open" diferential will it get dirt and stuff in it, cause the cover is off??? :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :p

Originally posted by pepe
If I run a "open" diferential will it get dirt and stuff in it, cause the cover is off??? :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :p

just crossdrill the bottom of the diff... then when you get crap stuck in it from behing open, it will just fall out through the bottom holes:flipoff2:

Its prett good mod, highly recommend it, + you get a cooler running diff

im puting rockwells on my xj and i hear thier pretty heavy, i was wondering can i shave off some of the unibody frame rails for weight reduction? possibly make a cross member out of plastic


or wait abs control arms, those would save a bunch of weight

I hear that the inertia from those spinning rims not only help to keep the rubber side down but also will help keep you'r momentum up, what else should be said I'm sold.:D

Originally posted by fullygruntled
Personally, I'm going to try some of those billet aluminum body lift pucks... preferably anodized red.


no way, polished with the polished diamond plate to cover the body lift gap.;)

I got a Scout D30, can I run that in the rear of my Willys if I turn the driveshaft upside down?

am I rite?

Only if you run the CV joint on the axle side......only way it will work ;)

You'll also need to run it in reverse and run no smaller than a 35" tire. Make sure that when you have it all mounted up you run a minimum of 6 chrome shocks.

so from what i gather, an AMC 20 is twice as strong as a ford 10.25, 9, and 8.8.... and its only 2 bolts short of a 14 bolt... so its like 85% of a 14 bolts strength. considering how much less it weighs than a 14b, its improved circular shape, and the fact that its only semi floating (which means you will be able to keep your wheels on the bottom of a puddle instead of floating away... It has the strength of a full float b/c it uses a drive nut on the end of the shaft just like a full float - but it doesnt have the boyancy troubles of a full float. The amc 20 is the ultimate offroad axle! ;)

im not joking, im for real hear! listen to me! no one ever listens to me! waaaa! : (

Originally posted by 281 Quad Cam
[B]so from what i gather, an AMC 20 is twice as strong as a ford 10.25, 9, and 8.8.... and its only 2 bolts short of a 14 bolt... so its like 85% of a 14 bolts strength. considering how much less it weighs than a 14b, its improved circular shape, and the fact that its only semi floating (which means you will be able to keep your wheels on the bottom of a puddle instead of floating away... It has the strength of a full float b/c it uses a drive nut on the end of the shaft just like a full float - but it doesnt have the boyancy troubles of a full float. The amc 20 is the ultimate offroad axle! ;)

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
BAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!


can't top that one today.... ;)

by bus!

Where does a Suzuki axle fit in this equation? I don’t have any bolts to count.

One time I saw a guy that had 38’s on a Suzuki and he said he’s never broken anything. So does that make it stronger than my buddy's D-60 that runs 38 and breaks several times a year?

We all know the Spinnin' rims help keep you stable off-road. The gryoscopic effect keeps your wheels point in the up right direction. This also means that you can drive upside down up a rocky face and not fall down. C'mon - that's day 1 stuff :rolleyes:

http://david.trucksoffroad.com/albums/album12/bling.gif

BACON!
:flipoff2:

hey if i body lift my xj is it gonna give it more death wobble?

Originally posted by mjlogan88
hey if i body lift my xj is it gonna give it more death wobble?

12% more.

If you up your coefficent of bling, you should be able to cancel the body-lift-death-wobble effects.

I ran some numbers through my death wobble equation I have set up in excel. You either need to paint 4.58sqft in Mexican chrome, or have an Aquatread spare on an AR black steel wheel, WITH chrome nugluts.

Swampers, castor, misalignment, etc. have nothing to do with death wobble. Its the reduction of the coefficient of bling that causes this. Do you ever here Ricey McRicerton on the Yellow Rice Race Sticker board complaining about DW? No. They have coefficients of bling in the .02-.10 range. Impossible to have DW with that much bling.

It's ALL about the bling! :flipoff2:


Can I fit those spinnin hubcaps on my hummer rims?!!!

Originally posted by LAME


12% more.

If you up your coefficent of bling, you should be able to cancel the body-lift-death-wobble effects.

I ran some numbers through my death wobble equation I have set up in excel. You either need to paint 4.58sqft in Mexican chrome, or have an Aquatread spare on an AR black steel wheel, WITH chrome nugluts.

Swampers, castor, misalignment, etc. have nothing to do with death wobble. Its the reduction of the coefficient of bling that causes this. Do you ever here Ricey McRicerton on the Yellow Rice Race Sticker board complaining about DW? No. They have coefficients of bling in the .02-.10 range. Impossible to have DW with that much bling.


dude!!... exactly what I was thinking...

and as far as the "spinning rims"


asshat!:rolleyes: get it right.... their called momentumenal wheels. when your wheeling the wheels spin inside the tire which gives you more momentum when you need to get over obsticals and sh|t.

fawkin noob!:rolleyes:

ok guys so yer saying that if i put two 2.5 liters in my cherokee it will be a 5.0. then if i put two np-231's in my jeep it will be a np-462 thus haveing twice the power and twice the strenght. Then do the tandamed 35's ill be set for tellico.
:flipoff2:

I have a rebuilt th400 making it a th425

after i installed a chrome bumper the jeep slid through the mud better and i get better gas mileage

My chrome rims are faster than satin finish aluminum

I run dana 60 rears in my jeep

I run one of those really old 401 ford engines

My jeep used to be a police car

yeah i was going to run 44' boggers but i picked these 31's instead, you know cause i want to street it

jeep used chrysler engines in the 70's, the 360's will swap out for 318's

some jeeps came from the factory with 440's in them

This thread contains critical information!

Originally posted by MC
I have a rebuilt th400 making it a th425


I run one of those really old 401 ford engines

some jeeps came from the factory with 440's in them

This thread contains critical information!

Wrong wrong wrong.
I can not believe the misinformation,
EVERYBODY knows 390 AMC's were the old Ford motors.

401's are those +.030 Chevy 396's they accidentally made in the 70's, when someone at the factory overboard 'em by mistake.
Chevy car suspensions couldn't hold more than 400CID's, so they sold them to AMC cheap

You're also rong about the 360's, thems those old Ford Truck FE 360's, that no one else wanted (WHY ELSE would the 390 parts swap to the 360s :rolleyes: ).

AMC used to raid the dumpsters behind all the other factories for tooling & parts.
How else would k the old 1960's AMC Jeeps have gotten factory Chevy 327's (Chevy junked them after the 350's came out), and the old oddfire Buick 225's :rolleyes:
There were only a couple of Buick 350's in the dumpster, so they saved those for the fullsize Jeeps.

Man, you guys need to read your history

LOL

seriously somebody is going to take this crap literally and look like a fool.3

Originally posted by MC
seriously somebody is going to take this crap literally and look like a fool.3

To be completely honest, the whole +.030 396 explanation was given to me by a guy who had built a 304 Javelin, with a 671 blower :eek: .

I asked him why he went with a 304, instead of a 390/401, or atleast a 360, and he explained that he wanted to use a 'real' AMC engine :confused:

Then he went on about how 390's are Ford engines (alot of non-Jeep/non-AMC'ers think that), and 401's being BBC's.

Yep, I just walked away.......

It would explain why they used TH400's though ;) :D

LOL

Yeah i had a good 360 that i gave to a friend 2yrs later he had only dissasembled it and he told me he ran the numbers on the block and it came from a 67 matador police car, he said with the right parts i could get 300hp out of it, then i showed him the 600hp 304 stroker we had in the shop, i think he peed his pants....lOL

People like that are more than a little goofy jim, WAYY MORE

Originally posted by LAME
I got a Scout D30, can I run that in the rear of my Willys if I turn the driveshaft upside down?

am I rite?

A D30 in the back will give you rear wheel steering.

Originally posted by yjinprogress


A D30 in the back will give you rear wheel steering.

:eek: :laughing:

whats a c-clip?

Its similar to an e-clip

Originally posted by Lowball


Its similar to an e-clip

But not too different from the infamous b-clip everyone wants from the Dana 135. It's all very technical you know...

Originally posted by MC

People like that are more than a little goofy jim, WAYY MORE

sounds :confused: + :smokin:
:D

People think just 'cause everyone builds Chevy's, they must be the best engines :rolleyes:
Nope, only the cheapest to get parts for.

BTW, 600 hp out of a stroked 304 :beer: :beer:

if you rebuild a dana 60 can you make a dana 70 if its bored out :smokin:

or make a dana 30 bored out and sleeved to make a dana 60 front:smokin: :smokin:

I changed my D44 into a D50 by using one of those Tera50 covers ;)
I'm looking for a D70 cover that says 'D70' on it now, so I can convert my D60 too.

I didn't know I could just bore it out to do the same thing, but how will everyone know they're bigger now :confused:
Why bother doing it if no one can tell :confused:


Also, is it tacky to have taillight covers, and a axle cover gaurds that don't match?
I just spent $200 on taillight gaurds, but I can't find a matching rear end gaurd. :mad:
I know I could just paint them to match, but I'm no poser :p

:flipoff2: :D :D :flipoff2: :D :confused: :flipoff2: :D :flipoff2: :eek:

Originally posted by jpnjim
I didn't know I could just bore it out to do the same thing, but how will everyone know they're bigger now :confused:
Why bother doing it if no one can tell :confused:



Duh, that's what stickers all over your rig are for. Oh, and by the way, I've got a foam machine for all of you who haven't upgraded to full-floaters.

Originally posted by OK_ZJ



Duh, that's what stickers all over your rig are for.

WHAT!
Dana is finally selling stickers that say D44/D60/D70!!! (rubbing hands with glee!!!)

Do you think they have the D80 ones out yet?
I can have the first D80 ft axle around!!

Now I just need to find some of those 10 lug hubcaps, and my rig is done! :D :D :D

Anyone have a link?

I think they just released the D35...since obviously it will be the most popular. And then coming out with the less popular versions like the D60 and 14 bolt in the spring. Sorry for the disappointment. I do, however, have a lead on the sickest new wheels out there. Here is a sample... http://members.optusnet.com.au/milcic/crazy%20car/sideedit1sml.JPG

They really are Grade A work.

if this thread gets any funnier, its going to be dangerous :p

i bought one of those radio controlled jeeps, anyways i blew out the pinion on the dana .3 (stock) and i think i will upgrade to a dana 1.5 what do you guys think? Can i shave the gears for clearance, i hate to tear up the carpet!

I heard running coolant in your crankcase can really give you extra cooling


I have a posi transfercase:flipoff2:

Originally posted by MC
i bought one of those radio controlled jeeps, anyways i blew out the pinion on the dana .3 (stock) and i think i will upgrade to a dana 1.5 what do you guys think? Can i shave the gears for clearance, i hate to tear up the carpet!

I heard running coolant in your crankcase can really give you extra cooling

I have a posi transfercase:flipoff2:

What motor does this bad boy run? a .360? all joking aside would a .360 still use the same exhaust manifolds as the full size 304360401? :flipoff2:

i wouldnt upgrade to the 1.5 untill you rebuild the .3 pinion a few times... bore it out make it a little beefier, and run some coolant in it. 1.5 is overkill unless you plan to run 4.4 inch tires. .60.60.60

:D i swapped in a .401 and this is what happened to my dana.1 after a rebuild....?......What can i do to prevent further breakage, and should i run a nylon driveshaft instead of regular delrin plastic? I heard polyurethane last longer than latex, Is that true?
Should i be running graphite instead of butter?

Here is a pic of the dana .1 gears after the .041 had a shot of methane
http://mpcrescenzo.imgbay.com/SAPP%20030.jpg

:D :flipoff2: :rolleyes: :flipoff2:

hmmmm wonder whats better... the 14 bolt looks kinda rusty so i think im gonna use the d35

http://www.users.eesc.com/twist/D35%2014bolt.jpg

how to make a AMC 20 a full floater

http://www.imgbay.com/sites/mpcrescenzo///SAPP%20011.jpg

i threw away this old intake from a police car, that car went real good down the road but the intake was dirty to i installed a new factory 2bbl cause i wanted better gas mileage and teh iron intake is better for the engine

http://www.imgbay.com/sites/jeepsr4ever///stuff0002.jpg