F-Toy #38

[azyota]

I picked up Chassis #38 From Vortec_Cruiser today. Thanks again :beer:

I pretty much have all the parts on my current ride. But I'm sure a lot of new stuff will come up.

Heres my old rig, soon to be the parts truck.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/Las%20Cruces%2006/pat_5.jpg

The new doner truck I got from a friend. Thanks Adam!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/83_doner.jpg

And the Hendrix Chassis.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/chassis.jpg

[Vortec_Cruiser]

Hey, that looks like my chassis... Oh, that's right, I sold it this morning. :( But it did get a good home. For me, the bright side to this story is that I will be ordering a new Formula Four chassis this week. :D

[Nissan Recovery Team]

WOOO HOOOO!!!! Welcome aboard AZYota! Awesome man....:smokin:

[desertoy]

Great! Hopefully you plan on posting a builup of your new rig.

[azyota]

WOOO HOOOO!!!! Welcome aboard AZYota! Awesome man....:smokin:

Thanks! I'm looking forward to it.

Desertoy,
Yeah, I plan to post the build. It's going to be a bit of a slow start. I'm going on one more trip with the old rig Memorial day weekend.

[fatkid]

Just asking, why the primer? I would think its got some welding left to do :)

[azyota]

Just asking, why the primer? I would think its got some welding left to do :)

Vortec_Cruiser had it outside for a while near Loma Linda (I think). He primed it to keep it from rusting.
It'll never rust here in Tucson.

[MikeWazowski]

Hey, where did the pics go?

[azyota]

Hey, where did the pics go?
:confused: Dunno, I see em.

Some of the easy stuff is done, everything is off the frame. That cab was a bitch to get off by myself.
If anyone wants any of that stuff, come and get it, otherwise it's going to the dump this weekend. The motor is a 20r and doesen't run, but its free.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/cab_off.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/frame.jpg

[krazytoy]

Hey I thought that green piece of s*@t in the background was getting chopped and extended?? Anyway nice to see your stepping it up to a f-toy. You gonna compete with this?

[yodamankp]

Sweet build man. I've been thinking of going that rout myself.:grinpimp:

[azyota]

Hey I thought that green piece of s*@t in the background was getting chopped and extended?? Anyway nice to see your stepping it up to a f-toy. You gonna compete with this?

I take it you know Jody. He's been talking about chopping that thing and extending it for while. What do you want to bet that I'll be done with this F-toy first?

I'm sure I'll make a few comps. I would say anything (F-toy) within about a 10hr drive. I'm hoping (like every one else here) that this Formuls Toy thing takes off. I can't see why more people won't jump on board when they see how cheap they can compete, and have a lot of fun.

[azyota]

Sweet build man. I've been thinking of going that rout myself.:grinpimp:

Thanks :confused: but I haven't built anything yet. :flipoff2:

[fatkid]

Theres more work into those frames than people realize...

[yodamankp]

Thanks :confused: but I haven't built anything yet. :flipoff2:
I just dig the formula toy builds. I hope to be able to start one pretty soon.:grinpimp:

[krazytoy]

Yes, I know Jody and I know you. Think of ATS Southwest. I saw your old truck when you first bought it! I talked to Yoda the other day and he told me that he had already started chopping his heep..... Funny some things never change. Good luck with the F-Toy looks like it is going to be fun! I just started on the sheetmetal with my buggy, it's a pain, well not really just time consumeing. Think ahead when you are starting yours, I did alot of figureing before I started just to make the sheetmetal easy. Plan ahead it will make life easy in the future. Good Luck, Jason

[Roktoyz]

PLAN ON DOING A X-CHASSIS MYSELF IN THE NEAR FUTURE. IF YOU NEED A HAND LET ME KNOW I'D LOVE TO CHECK IT OUT

GARRET
ROKTOYZ@YAHOO.COM

[azyota]

Yes, I know Jody and I know you. Think of ATS Southwest. I saw your old truck when you first bought it! I talked to Yoda the other day and he told me that he had already started chopping his heep..... Funny some things never change. Good luck with the F-Toy looks like it is going to be fun! I just started on the sheetmetal with my buggy, it's a pain, well not really just time consumeing. Think ahead when you are starting yours, I did alot of figureing before I started just to make the sheetmetal easy. Plan ahead it will make life easy in the future. Good Luck, Jason

Jayson????

[azyota]

PLAN ON DOING A X-CHASSIS MYSELF IN THE NEAR FUTURE. IF YOU NEED A HAND LET ME KNOW I'D LOVE TO CHECK IT OUT

GARRET
ROKTOYZ@YAHOO.COM

Yeah, I'll let you know when I get started building anything. I'm still tearing down doner rigs.

What are you driving now?

[Roktoyz]

Got A 84 X-cab All Chopped & Exo'd, But I've Already Started Tearing The Drivetrain Out & All The Parts I'm Using For The X-chassis, So If You Need Parts Let Me Know I'm Happy To Donate To A Good Cause. I Just Moved Here From Phx A Little While Ago. Been Looking To Meet Some Fellow Yota Wheelin Bros. I've Got A Plasma Etc.... I'd Like To Help Out In Any Way I Can. If You Need A Hand Tearing Shit Down, I've Been Doing Plenty Of That Myself, Let Me Know.

[azyota]

I got started tearing down my trail rig. It's almost kinda hard to do. I got a lot of work in this thing.
Kinda forgot how long the entire motor, bellhousing, tranny, range box, adaptor, T-case assy is. If your going to yank it out as one piece, make sure your cherry picker can lift it high enough. It's a real bitch to try to reposition after it's off the mounts. :flipoff2:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/motor_out.jpg
My garage is starting to look like a junkyard....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/junkyard.jpg
Is this rats nest really necessary? Down the road a ways I'll be looking for some advise as to what I can get rid of.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/rats_nest.jpg

[Nissan Recovery Team]

If you get the GM one wire alt. you can cut the wires down on the 22r to 3 IIRC, there is a nice thread on it in the truck forum.

[hugh jeffner]

what happened to waiting until after memorial day weekend. the ants in your pants get the best of you???

give me a call if i can come and watch you work, while i drink beer...........i mean help.

[azyota]

If you get the GM one wire alt. you can cut the wires down on the 22r to 3 IIRC, there is a nice thread on it in the truck forum.


:smokin:

[azyota]

what happened to waiting until after memorial day weekend. the ants in your pants get the best of you???

give me a call if i can come and watch you work, while i drink beer...........i mean help.

I had to bail out on the trip. Between starting a new job a couple weeks ago, buying the F-toy chassis and going to get it, being out of town for work reasons. I just have too much going on, and a little short on funds. :crybaby2:
And, I want to get going on this. I'm going to try to make the September event in So-Cal. Sept seems like a long ways off, but the time willl go by quick.

If I can get it done, I'll be looking for a spotter!!!

[hugh jeffner]

count me in!

[krazytoy]

Yes, Jason. :D

[azyota]

I got most of the grinding done on the frame. For not having a plasma, or torch, it didn't go too bad. I went thru about six 4-1/2" cutting wheels, 4-5 sawzall blades, three grinding wheels and about 6hrs.
I left the motor mounts and a few other things in place for now. Thought I may need them for reference, and I'll chop the stock cross member after I decide where the new one needs to be, and is at least tacked in.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/frame_1.jpg

[Vortec_Cruiser]

Looking good! :smokin:

[punisher85]

great keep up

[GJC]

Nice :cool2:

[azyota]

I'm making a little headway!
Some Trail Gear parts.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/trailgearparts.jpg
Still a little to do on this, but it's close. With a little luck it should stay there.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/hanger_gusset.jpg

[Nissan Recovery Team]

Good lookin' weld and I have those exact rear pads on mine. You can use any of those holes (according to TG) and adjust your wheelbase. :smokin:

[azyota]

I got a chance to hang my rear hangers. I set them up for a 107-108" wheelbase. They still need a lot of work, as they are I'm sure they would rip right out of the frame.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/box_welded_upper.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/box_welded_lower.jpg
Also started a rear X-member. Not sure yet if I want to use it. I made from left over stock from another job. It's heavy! 3-1/2" X 3-1/2" x 1/4" wall. Even with go fast holes it's still pretty heavy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/rear_X-member.jpg

[azyota]

Crossmember is finished, springs and axle are on for a test fit.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/rear_X-member_1.jpg
Roller :smokin:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/roller_1.jpg

[Nissan Recovery Team]

Good lookin'..:smokin:

[azyota]

This weekend I got the motor in the frame for a test fit. Right now it's set up for a flat belly with the motor mounts moved back 4-3/4" from stock. I'm not dead set on location yet. Once the radiator is mocked up, I can test fit the winch. I want the fairlead to mount even with the front cross member.
It seems like everytime I buy a fabbed part, it doesent fit. The motor mount brackets were no different. When I tried to mount them to the stock motor mounts on a 94 22RE, they didin't fit. I checked them against the mount's on an 83 frame, still a no-go. Oh well, 10min with a grinder,:rolleyes:
With the engine setting close to being in place, I dropped the chassis down to where I would like it to fit. The centerline of the bottom tube is even with the top of the frame rails. Once the seats show up, I can get the height set for good. In this pic, the top of the cage is at 74" high. I would like to get the height down a couple more inches. I'm pretty sure a leaf will have to come out of the front springs. Hopefully that will do it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/test_fit.jpg

[ACE-CAGE-#29]

Looking good! Stay with it....just a little bit each day will make a difference.

Matt

[Nissan Recovery Team]

This weekend I got the motor in the frame for a test fit. Right now it's set up for a flat belly with the motor mounts moved back 4-3/4" from stock. I'm not dead set on location yet. Once the radiator is mocked up, I can test fit the winch. I want the fairlead to mount even with the front cross member.
It seems like everytime I buy a fabbed part, it doesent fit. The motor mount brackets were no different. When I tried to mount them to the stock motor mounts on a 94 22RE, they didin't fit. I checked them against the mount's on an 83 frame, still a no-go. Oh well, 10min with a grinder,:rolleyes:
With the engine setting close to being in place, I dropped the chassis down to where I would like it to fit. The centerline of the bottom tube is even with the top of the frame rails. Once the seats show up, I can get the height set for good. In this pic, the top of the cage is at 74" high. I would like to get the height down a couple more inches. I'm pretty sure a leaf will have to come out of the front springs. Hopefully that will do it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/test_fit.jpg


What motor mounts are you using?

[azyota]

Looking good! Stay with it....just a little bit each day will make a difference.

Matt

Thanks Matt! Oh, BTW, the Trail gear parts fit perfect!

[azyota]

Motor mount brackets are on. I settled for moving the motor back 4-1/2".
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/hendrix_mounts_1.jpg

[FYRDUDE]

That rear crossmember sure does look familiar.:D I seem to remember seeing it somewhere else. Gotta love the go-fast-holes:smokin:

[azyota]

Yeah, it's tough to do much of anything that hasn't been done before. Now I just need to be able to do the dimple go fast holes.
So just who did I copy, you?

[azyota]

The T-case skid is done! I cheated and re-used my old Marlin T-case mount. First the sides had to be cut down to fit between the frame rails. Yes, I got the idea from Matt :flipoff2:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/marlin_mnt.jpg
Next the inside of the frame rails were plated with 1/8" cold rolled, and some brackets were fabbed. Here is a before pick of how far down the Marlin skid set.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/skid_before.jpg
Here is the after, I didn't go completly flat belly. With the skid setting 3/4" below the frame rails, the tranny and T-cases set parallel with the frame rails.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/skid_after.jpg
A couple more from above and below. :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/skid_after_top.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/skid_after_bottom.jpg

[Air Ride]

nice work

[azyota]

nice work

Thanks!

Finished a frame cross member behind the T-case. Well, almost finished. It still needs some gusseting and the hoop around the drive shaft is just tacked. I think it may get in the way of the seats and have to come off.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/X-member_mid.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/X-member_mid_rear.jpg

[punisher85]

Great work on your F-toy. i cant wait to work on my F-toy hehe

[desertoy]

Hey, that front inboarded spring mount is not going to last unless you put some triangulated gussets on it. You gotta remember that the metal on the inside of the frame is thinner than the outside.

[azyota]

Yeah, once the chassis is on, and I get a better idea of where everything will end up, I'm going to add quite a bit more beef to that area.

[azyota]

A little more progress. The Hendrix chassis is mostly mounted. I made up some plates for the frame where the chassis mounts go, and since the chassis is 1-3/4" DOM, I used the same to tie it to the frame.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/chassis_tie_short.jpg
Right now the chassis has three mounts per side, I still need to do the front and rear mounts.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/chassis_mnt_rear.jpg
The bottom of the bottom rails ended up 2" above the top of the frame. Even at that, I'm going to be cutting it close on the 3 inch headroom clearance rule. Here is a PRP seat setting 1" above the frame.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/chassis_mnt_w_seat.jpg

[Nickm]

Lots of hard work there. Its lookin good:smokin:

[azyota]

Lots of hard work there. Its lookin good:smokin:


Thanks :D

Rear chassis mounts...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/rear_chassis_mnts.jpg

[hugh jeffner]

Thanks :D

Rear chassis mounts...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/rear_chassis_mnts.jpg


is that paddle so you can paddle home if you get a flat.......:D

[azyota]

My "shit creek" paddle. Never leave home without it!

[azyota]

The original owner of this chassis didn't get the side panel bracing option. So I added myself. I copied pretty much the way you can order the chassis from Hendrix. For the price of material, and the time it takes to do this yourself, I would recommend getting this option from Hendrix when you order your chassis.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/panel_bracing.jpg

[Nickm]

I feel your pain. I do have a cutting torch but no plasma cutter. If I could have 1 tool it would be a tube notcher. I have learned to use a grinder better than I ever wanted. :D

[willbeis]

Azyota, do you have a picture of the front just like the picture you have of the rear(same angle) but of the front?

[desertoy]

The original owner of this chassis didn't get the side panel bracing option. So I added myself. I copied pretty much the way you can order the chassis from Hendrix. For the price of material, and the time it takes to do this yourself, I would recommend getting this option from Hendrix when you order your chassis.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/panel_bracing.jpg

The only problem with your side panel bracing is, because you left the round tubing (it sticks out further than the square tubing), it will not allow you to RECESS the side panels unless you make them 3 pieces.

This is how Marlin did it, so it will work.

[azyota]

Azyota, do you have a picture of the front just like the picture you have of the rear(same angle) but of the front?

The front is still propped up on a piece of scrap square stock but here ya go.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/front_angle.jpg

[azyota]

The only problem with your side panel bracing is, because you left the round tubing (it sticks out further than the square tubing), it will not allow you to RECESS the side panels unless you make them 3 pieces.

This is how Marlin did it, so it will work.

I was planning to do my panels, and some other stuff a lot like Marlins. In my opinion, that's probably the most detailed F-toy build.

[willbeis]

Thank you, thats perfect. I am interested in what and how you mount the front of the chassis to the frame. If you could add a picture when you do that would be great, thanks again.

[azyota]

I got started making floorboards and seat mounts. The passenger side is easy, and pretty much done.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/flrbrd_right.jpg
The drivers side isn't going to be as easy. After rotating the engine, tranny and all up to get a flat belly, the header is going to hit the floorboard pretty bad.
One suggestion is to heat the headers with a torch and bend it down a little.
Any other suggestions?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/flrbrd_left_1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/flrbrd_left_2.jpg

[azyota]

So far this weekend the steering box and radiator are mounted, the winch will be mounted later today, and the front bumper is tacked. Too damn hot to get anything done here. It's been 110+ the last two days.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/stinger_1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/stinger_2.jpg

[a2b]

looks good. just build your own headers.:)

[azyota]

I already fixed the header problem, I think. I used a cheater bar and a come along and bent the header down, then chopped a section out of the floorboard mount, cut it down and welded it back in. Right now I have about 1/2" clearance. I'll probaboy have to bend it some more.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/flrbrd_left_3.jpg
Bent up a little more tube and got the headlights in.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/stinger_3.jpg

[willbeis]

Thanks for posting the picture of the front.:)

[Mustard Dog]

Wrap up that header with some of that heat tape stuff, otherwise I see a hot ass and alot of melted boot heels in your future:D

[Heywood]

Looking good.
I like the way you did the backend, If your gonna have the frame longer than the chassis thats a nice way to do it.

Your trans looks like its up pretty high. I have a flat belly, but for some reason my trans doesnt look like its that high. Maybe you are higher than the bottom of the frame? Either way that u joint on the ds at the t case is gonna hate you.
One thing I did that helped was modified the t case mounts by taking out the big stock bolt,welding a thick washer on there, put a thiner longer bolt and nut thru with a little bushing (piece of tire) in between. Tighten the hell out of it.
It really helped making the mount more solid and compressed those mounts allmost an inch. Lowering the trans and cases without lowering the flat belly.


Sean

[azyota]

Thanks Sean!

The T-case mount is about 1" below the frame rails, so it's not quite a flat belly. Right now the bottom of the frame rails are 26-1/2" from the floor on 37's. The springs are all pro 4-1/2" lift. The rear pack has one leaf out and the front is still a full pack. DS angle is 25deg. I'm thinking I'll have to take another leaf out of the rears, and probably two out of the front's. That and the weight of everything else that still has to go on should bring it down a couple inches I'm guessing.
What's a reasonable angle for the rear DS?
What's your frame height from the ground?

[Heywood]

Thanks Sean!

What's a reasonable angle for the rear DS?
What's your frame height from the ground?


My frame is at 24" from the ground. Belly pan is at 23 3/4" from ground:D

I dont remember angles of ds.
Mine is about at the limit I think.But mines a little different with the axle pushed way back, and low lift.

Ask D Toy about drive shaft angle and f toys, he knows alot about it.

[azyota]

Thanks Sean!

So far this weekend I got the support for the firewall bent up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/Firewall_mount.jpg
X-brace behind the seats.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/X-brace.jpg
And a 16gal RCI fuel cell mostly mounted. It still needs a strap over the top.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/RCI_tank.jpg

[benttoy]

heywood can you post a picture of you t-case mounts ? :

[azyota]

I'm looking for some ideas on pedal mounting. In about all of the F-toy build-up's, the pedals are mounted off the most forward horizontal tube, behind the motor on the Hendrix chassis. That's where I made my firewall support. I clamped my gas pedal to the firewall support and measured from the face of the pedal to the back of the seat, with the seat as far back as it will go, and it's only 36". It's doable like that, but it's going to be tight. How much leg room do most of you have?

[benttoy]

If your using the stock pedal mount check out the tin benders raffle f-toy. they made a clean mount . as far as the seat to pedal mine is 35 inches but I am on the downhill side of short

[desertoy]

You need to make foot buckets in the fire wall. That is the only way you will have enough room for pedals. It is alot of work but worth it in the long run.

You can check my buildup in my sig for ideas, or like stated above, the TinBenders buildup raffle rig.

[azyota]

Yeah I'm going to have to break down and do it right.

Nice work Desertoy! Took me a while to get past page three :smokin:

[a2b]

ya i had to cut my firewall out because it didnt let my clutch have enough travel. so i left it open and used engine panels so it could be open and not colide with anything

[azyota]

ya i had to cut my firewall out because it didnt let my clutch have enough travel. so i left it open and used engine panels so it could be open and not colide with anything

With your Wilwood pedals, how far does the clutch pedal push to disengage the clutch?

[a2b]

With your Wilwood pedals, how far does the clutch pedal push to disengage the clutch?


well i used to have to push all the way, but now that i switched master cyilnders, i can actually push too far. now i have to find somewhere in the middle till i grind down the push rod on the master cylinder. but it does push pretty far. thats why left the wheel well open.

http://www.thebestbuddies.com/pic/formulatoy10/21706/images/100_9650.jpg

[azyota]

Thanks Hobie!

What bore masters did you go with. Willwood recommended 3/4" for the clutch and front brakes, and 7/8" for the rear. So that's what I got.

[a2b]

Thanks Hobie!

What bore masters did you go with. Willwood recommended 3/4" for the clutch and front brakes, and 7/8" for the rear. So that's what I got.

yeah, we already went down that road. i should put this info in the FAQ.

using stock toy brakes with dual brake master cylinder setup. use 5/8" master cynlinders for the brakes and the same for the clutch or 3/4" for the clutch.


you might as well go ahead and return what you have. or just return the brakes, cuz you will have to buy new ones. me and hammerhog and aaron a few years ago had to figure this out on our own by just buying MC"s and seeing what they are like in the ftoy.

[azyota]

So wouldn't the smaller size bore on the MC cause you to have to push the pedal farther?
Are you running residual pressure valves?

[azyota]

Here is what we came up with for a pedal bucket in the firewall.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/pedals_3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/pedals_4.jpg

[Heywood]

Ive got the same pedals, mine are up way higher, I dont know if your cage is higher or what, but mine are all the way tight up against the chassis tube.
Maybe your is different or you are better at planing ahead. We put the seat in first and then put the pedals where we wanted them. I wanted my legs staight when I pushed the gas and clutch, not off to the side or too high or low, and the right distance too.
As close as possible to a stock set up.

That bent square tube looks:smokin:

[Heywood]

There was one guy running like this, I think he changed them though:laughing:

[azyota]

There was one guy running like this, I think he changed them though:laughing:

:laughing: :eek: :barf:

Remote mounted reservoirs

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/reservoirs.jpg

[ACE-CAGE-#29]

Right On! You are making good progress. Keep it up!

[azyota]

Ive got the same pedals, mine are up way higher, I dont know if your cage is higher or what, but mine are all the way tight up against the chassis tube.
Maybe your is different or you are better at planing ahead. We put the seat in first and then put the pedals where we wanted them. I wanted my legs staight when I pushed the gas and clutch, not off to the side or too high or low, and the right distance too.
As close as possible to a stock set up.

That bent square tube looks:smokin:

I put my seats in first, and started measuring from there. I have to have them on sliders. I'm 6' tall and my wife is 5', and she drives quite a bit. The bottom of the Hendrix chassis is 2" above the frame rails.
Here is a pic from the side of the pedal bucket. You can see it sets just a little forward of the chassis, and when the clutch pedal is pushed in all the way, it goes almost all the way to the bottom of the bucket.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/pedals_5.jpg
I'm not sure if I'm going to have clearance issues with the tire at full stuff and turned to the left.
Right now, everything is still just tacked. I want to plumb the clutch and see just how much pedal stroke it takes to disengage. If the stroke is short enough, I want to move the pedals farther into the bucket, and remount the gas pedal.

[Heywood]

Looks like youve got everything under control:smokin:

Are you planing on having it ready for the sept comp?

[azyota]

Looks like youve got everything under control:smokin:

Are you planing on having it ready for the sept comp?

I'm trying but it's not looking good.

[azyota]

The steering is mostly done. I need to make another bracket and weld it up. It's mostly stock car parts. Hydro stuff should be here soon!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/steering_2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/steering_1.jpg

[a2b]

you know if you wanna get rid of those hiems, you could run the steering column thru the main cross tube. just sleeve it, or if you tilted your dash bar up, you could sleeve it thru that and have no heim joints, that would look nice and clean.

[azyota]

That's a good idea. Where were you before I bought the heims and put them in? :flipoff2:

Since it's done, and my steering shaft is already cut to length, I'm going to stick with what I got.

[a2b]

That's a good idea. Where were you before I bought the heims and put them in? :flipoff2:

Since it's done, and my steering shaft is already cut to length, I'm going to stick with what I got.


are those the 35 dollars steering heims?

[Mustard Dog]

Since it's done, and my steering shaft is already cut to length, I'm going to stick with what I got.

It's an easy fix. Nows the time to do it right, Hobie was crushed when he was chastised for that abortion he welded onto his rig, but I bet he'll tell you today that replacing it was one of the best things he ever did. I'm not saying that your's is anywhere in the same galaxy of bootieness that Hobies was, just trying to make a point:D

Check out what I did on my X-Chassis (in the thread desertoy pointed out) it works really well. Also a good rule of thumb for setting the angle of the column is to have it point at the middle of your throat;)

[Kyron]

What bender are you using to bend the square tube??

It looks slick :)

[azyota]

It's an easy fix. Nows the time to do it right, Hobie was crushed when he was chastised for that abortion he welded onto his rig, but I bet he'll tell you today that replacing it was one of the best things he ever did. I'm not saying that your's is anywhere in the same galaxy of bootieness that Hobies was, just trying to make a point:D

Check out what I did on my X-Chassis (in the thread desertoy pointed out) it works really well. Also a good rule of thumb for setting the angle of the column is to have it point at the middle of your throat;)

Thanks for the advice, and thanks for the clarification on bootieness :laughing:

The heims I got are pretty standard .007 oversize heims used in stock cars. They are pretty cheap, so going a different route wouldn't be a big deal. I know a couple people running them with no problems I know of. I don't think strength is a problem. Is strength a problem with these?
The mounts I'm making are pretty clean, and covered by the firewall and the dash, so they wont really be seen. All that's really going to be seen is about 2-1/2" (or less)of 3/4" shaft between the dash bar and the wheel.
Mustard Dog, is that just a piece of 1-1/2" .120 wall tubing around the steering shaft? Did you make bushings, or use some kind of bearing?

[azyota]

What bender are you using to bend the square tube??

It looks slick :)

It's an M-tech manual bender. I have a couple of square tube dies from when I was doing some fence and gate work.

[azyota]

Finally got a chance to get a little more done. I'm in the process of beefing up the rear spring hanger. I'll probably add another tube from the top of the hanger to the crossmember.
I built a new crossmember too and tied it to the X-brace.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/hanger_brace.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/up_skirt.jpg
This pic makes the hangers look bent/warped up. It's just the pic.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/X-member_new.jpg

[desertoy]

Can you show a picture of where the X-Brace connects at the top.

coming along nicely.

[azyota]

It's probably not the best location, but it was a compromise between space behind the seats, or having no X-brace at all.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/x-brace_top.jpg

[azyota]

Tonight I got the rear shock mounts tacked in. The back half is almost done. :smokin:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/shockmounts_rear.jpg

[a2b]

looks clean. i like how the rear is turning out.

[losekannon]

Looks good:smokin: Can't wait to start mine:grinpimp: :D

[desertoy]

It's probably not the best location, but it was a compromise between space behind the seats, or having no X-brace at all.


Looks good!

[azyota]

Thanks! I'm starting to think it's actualy going to run again.

[BlueTorch]

The build is looking very nice. Your battery box and tabs are on the way. Thanks for the biz. Let me know if you need anything else.

Thanks
Dan

[azyota]

Thanks Dan!

[azyota]

I'm down to the point where all I have left is little stuff...... Lot's of little stuff. I worked on it all day for the last three days, and every night after work, and it doesn't really look any different. I stripped all the factory brackets off a newer rear axle and got it mounted.
Today I made up a bunch of little mounts for the fire wall and floor pans.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/tabs.jpg
Got the firewall done and battery box mounted. The pic only shows half of the firewall. Most of the firewall will be .093 thick 5052 alum. The battery box is from Blue Torch.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/firewall.jpg
Here I added some "wing window" bars, some more gussets, and trick tabs for the mounting the roof. The gussets and tabs are hard to see.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/wing_window.jpg

[azyota]

This is the rest of the firewall. The footbucket area is 18ga cold rolled. It's a lot easier to work with and weld than alum. That is with the tools I have anyway.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/firewall_1.jpg

[a2b]

geter done:smokin:

[Im4yotas]

I'm down to the point where all I have left is little stuff...... Lot's of little stuff. I worked on it all day for the last three days, and every night after work, and it doesn't really look any different.


Keep it up man. If you rush it here, yah, it may get done quicker and work ok, but it will look and FEEL like crap.

So far, I like it a lot. Glad you came to your senses and bought a Hendrix chassis:flipoff2:

[azyota]

Keep it up man. If you rush it here, yah, it may get done quicker and work ok, but it will look and FEEL like crap.

So far, I like it a lot. Glad you came to your senses and bought a Hendrix chassis:flipoff2:

Yeah, now's not the time to rush it. That's part of the reason I decided not to make the Cougar Buttes event at the end of this month.

I'm glad I bought it too! For the price, quality, and just time involved to make something, buying the Hendrix chassis is the only way to go. Building a Formula Toy takes a lot of work! And lot's of fab work other than the chassis.

[azyota]

geter done:smokin:

I'm tryin! I made up a big list of stuff that still need doing. It seems like for every 4 things I cross off the list, I add 5 :shaking:

[azyota]

I'm finally starting to get close. Most of the fab is finished. The front shock mounts were the last major thing left to do and that's done. :D
I still need to burn them in but that wont take much. From here it's mostly littel tabs and brackets. :smokin:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/shockmounts_front.jpg
This is the drivers side shock mount. I had to bend one of the uprights to clear the steering shaft. And the sheetmetal pedal bucket in the background.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/shockmounts_front_ds.jpg
The dash, fire wall, and floor are done too. I still need to make a tranny tunnel, but I'll do that a little later. I'm planning to keep the interior very basic. Still needs gages and a switch panel. That was all ordered today.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/dash.jpg

[claytonfaulkner]

dont forget the cupholders

[a2b]

sweet. 3 more weeks till the last comp of the year:p

[SeaBass44]

shipped today as I told you:D
also you got the 1st of these:smokin:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5898871#post5898871



http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=263186&stc=1&d=1158104586

[azyota]

Thanks SeaBass :beer: That is too cool :smokin:
Can't wait to get everything and get this thing wired!

[benttoy]

Looking good ! You going to make the comp ? you got 2 whole weeks

[azyota]

Looking good ! You going to make the comp ? you got 2 whole weeks

I'm not going to make it. I wanted to, and gave it a pretty good try with the amount of time I had. But even if I get it running by then, I have broke the bank for the time being. :(
I'm going to have to settle for next year.

[benttoy]

I know about the bank part after this last comp we are going to switch motors from a tired 21ru to 22re. look forward to running with you next year

[azyota]

I had a few set backs and havn't made much progress over tha past few weeks. First my Milwaukee 4-1/2" angle grinder quite on me. So I went and bought a new one. Now this past week my welder started acting up. It started having problems when I was doing some tab work, so I think all the fab work that is already done is fine. The problem is very apperent, and it just started. I first noticed it with tack welds last week. They just didn't want to hold. I keep turning up the voltage till they would, but then the voltage was almost all the way up. Never had this problem before. The liner is pretty fresh and I change tips right away whenever I have any problems.
I welded up a test piece out of 1x2x.12 wall, and 1-1/2" 11ga and did a "hammer test".
I had to beat the crap out of it with a 8lb sledge but......
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/junk/hammer_test_1.jpg
I went over everything looking for an obvious probelm and couldn't find anything.
Then I double checked all my settings, put on a new tip, re adjusted the drive roller and did another test, running it hot too......
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/junk/hammer_test_2.jpg

[azyota]

I fixed the welder problem. I picked this up a couple days ago.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/junk/New_welder.jpg
Got back to work and got a few things finished. Front bump stops.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/bumpstop_front.jpg
And a switch mount. Go fast holes...........no dimples!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/switch_mounts.jpg

Good luck to everyone at Cougar Buttes this weekend :beer:

[azyota]

I got a little bit done today. Just small stuff, but that's mostly what I have left to do.
Mounted the radiator overflow res. Found a good spot to get it out of the way.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/res.jpg
I'm not quite finished with the air intake. I needed to relocate the MAS, and I don't have room for the stock air box. This is a piece of 3" exhaust tubing that was mandrel bent to a "U" shape. I cut it in two, right in the middle. I got it from a hot rod shop.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/u_bend.jpg
This is after adding a piece in the middle, trimming the ends and welding it up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/u_bend_extended.jpg
Here it is zip tied in place. I still need to make a bracket and get an air filter. I'll probably use a 3" K&N cone filter.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/u_bend_mounted.jpg

[Vortec_Cruiser]

Boy, that build is coming right along, and it looks really good. :)

How difficult will it be to remove the engine, if you have to do that at some future time?

[azyota]

Boy, that build is coming right along, and it looks really good. :)

How difficult will it be to remove the engine, if you have to do that at some future time?


Man! It's taking me forever to finish it up. Just got short on time.

I don't think it's going to be too bad yanking the motor, but I think I may have painted myself into a corner as far as pulling the T-case. I guess I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

[Vortec_Cruiser]

Man! It's taking me forever to finish it up. Just got short on time.

I don't think it's going to be too bad yanking the motor, but I think I may have painted myself into a corner as far as pulling the T-case. I guess I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
Just think how much more work it would have been if you didn't already have a running buggy to transfer the parts from. I know I've got a L.....O.....N.....G build ahead of me. :shaking:

[azyota]

I havn't had much to update for a while. No time to work on it. Anyway, here are a couple more progress pics. The front end and winch mount is finished. I added some expanded metal to go between the radiator and the winch to keep the cable out of there.
Also the hydro assist steering is on. I still need to mod the steering box.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/front_1.jpg
The tail light and license plate mounts are done too. The fab work is almost finished. I just need to make an anti wrap bar for the rear and a place for the cooler, tools and a place for my dogs to ride.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/tail_lights_1.jpg
Here is one with the LED's in. I had to cover up the plate because the reflection was making my camera screw up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/tail_lights_2.jpg

[benttoy]

Man that is looking sweet looks like your almost done

[azyota]

Man that is looking sweet looks like your almost done

Thanks! I still have a wiring mess to take care of. I want to strip all the unneccesary stuff out. Wiring is NOT one of my strong points.

[benttoy]

QUOTE=azyota]Thanks! I still have a wiring mess to take care of. I want to strip all the unneccesary stuff out. Wiring is NOT one of my strong points.[/QUO


Are you using the stock wiring harness? wiring is not my thing either but I followed d-toys advice and got a SDS system havent swaped motors yet but it really looks like a clean and easy way to go

[azyota]

So how much $$$ is the SDS system? And what exactly is it?

[Vortec_Cruiser]

Let's see more pics from different angles. :)

[benttoy]

So how much $$$ is the SDS system? And what exactly is it?

Simple digital systems this is a fuel managment only system. I think its about $800.00 with this you dont use any stock wiring you dont have to run the stock air box you do have to run distributer from a carbed motor. they have a few diffrent systems but D-TOY used sds fuel management system which is what I have. check out thier web site

[azyota]

It does sounds like a great way to go, but unfortunatly, that's not in budget right now.

[azyota]

Let's see more pics from different angles. :)

I'll add some more of the rear later today.

[azyota]

Got this Trail-Gear rear diff cover a couple days ago. For the money, it's pretty sweet!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/TG_rear_diff_cover.jpg
Here is an installed pic. I like the way it fit's on axles that have relocated spring perches to correct pinion angles. The bottom stays pretty flat, where the pipe cap covers tend to hang down a bit lower. Evnetually I'll cut the bottom of the diff and plate it to gain a little ground clearance, but for now, I just want to get it on the trail.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/TG_rear_diff_cover_installed.jpg

[benttoy]

Is that the trail gear logo on the diff guard if so thats kinda cool :D

[azyota]

Yup! The flash kinda washed it out.

[fj40forlife]

great build up.

[a2b]

nice work:)

[azyota]

Deer season is over, so I'm getting back to work on my rig. It's only going to be a two seater so I built an area behind the seats for storage and for the dogs to ride. I picked up some ammo cans and mounted them behind the seat too. My wife is going to make a big padded cover to go over the expanded metal.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/ammo_can_mount.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/rear_storage.jpg
The anti wrap bar is finished too. The tubing is 1-1/2" x 1/4" wall DOM mounted with heims. The heim at the shackle end has high misalignment spacers and should have no clearance issues. The shackle is made out of 2" wide x 3/8" thick hot rolled, mounted with Toyota leaf spring bushings and an 18MM shackle bolt. Still need to make up some spacers so I can get rid of the big stacks of washers.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/wrap_bar_1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/wrap_bar_2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/wrap_bar_3.jpg

[SanDiegoCJ]

Deer season is over, so I'm getting back to work on my rig. It's only going to be a two seater so I built an area behind the seats for storage and for the dogs to ride. I picked up some ammo cans and mounted them behind the seat too. My wife is going to make a big padded cover to go over the expanded metal.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/ammo_can_mount.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/rear_storage.jpg



I have a gear shelf in the back of my CJ7 that has expanded metal on it.
I found that rubber sheeting that's used for pickup truck bed liners makes
an excellent cover for the expanded metal.

[azyota]

SanDiegoCJ,
Thanks for the idea! I have bed liner/mat out back that will work perfect. :smokin:
Today I got about all the fab finished, and the paint is almost finished. Many thanks to one of my friends Doug for coming over and helping with the paint.
Still have a wiring nightmare to get thru, but damn it's getting close.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/paint.jpg

[azyota]

Two questions...
I'm right in the middle of plumbing the motor I got from a friend. The motor is a 22RE out of a 94. I have an RCI fuel cell that has pickup and a return fittings. The pickup has a tube that runs to the righthand rear corner (circle track stuff) and a return with a rollover valve.
I have the cell plumbed from the pickup to an inline fuel filter, then the pump (E2000), then hardlined to the engine campartment with a short piece of steel braided line hooked to the stock fuel filter.
Then a return from the injectors back to the cell. I don't have a vent, and I have been told that I dont need one. So, how does that work?
Second, I had the piece of steel braided line disconnected from the stock filter and stuck in a fuel jug, turned on the fuel pump and let it run for a little while to flush the new hardline. The I hooked it up to the fuel filter and turned the pump on again. I heard a hissing noise and fuel started spraying out from the intake manifold area. It was a LOT of fuel. Pretty much a sprinkler. I shut the pump off went and got a flashlight to see where the fuel was coming from. Turned the fuel pump back on...... No leak! I went over the entire system and couldn't find any leaks anywhere else, and the "sprinkler" leak was no longer leaking at all :confused: WTF???

Here are a couple pics of how it's set up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/cell_plumbing.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/E2000_plumbing.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/filter_plumbing.jpg

[FYRDUDE]

SICK!!:smokin:

[azyota]

This weekend has been pretty good for the most part........... Until I got to the electrical. It's becoming painfully obvious that I don't know what I'm doing. The biggest problem is that I have two connectors that are wired in close to the connectors that attach to the ECU. Unfortunately I don't have a FSM for this motor, so I have no idea what is what. Anyone have a service manual with electrical schematics for a 94 22RE that I can borrow, in Tucson? Here is the current rats nest.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/rats_nest-1.jpg
Here is the ECU and the two connectors I'm refering to.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/ECU_connectors.jpg

[FYRDUDE]

Throw all that crap away and talk to Carey at GotPropane.com. He will hook you up with a killer propane setup. Once you go propane you'll never go back to gas on a crawler.:smokin:

[claytonfaulkner]

i see you have a license plate and brake lights, are you planning to drive it on the street any?

[Brian Ellinger]

3 solutions on your wiring.

1. Let ORS build you a harness to plug in there.

2. Get a body harness for the truck, a lot of time, ton of patience, and start stripping it out.

3. SDS from LC.

[azyota]

i see you have a license plate and brake lights, are you planning to drive it on the street any?

I'm planning to get it street legal. It's not that difficult to do in AZ. One of my friends just got his plates for this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/crossed_up/crossed_up_buggy_1.jpg

[azyota]

3 solutions on your wiring.

1. Let ORS build you a harness to plug in there.

2. Get a body harness for the truck, a lot of time, ton of patience, and start stripping it out.

3. SDS from LC.


I'll have to check out the prices for the ORS and the SDS. Right now the bank is pretty much broke, so I'm looking for cheap options.

Thanks!

[azyota]

3 solutions on your wiring.

1. Let ORS build you a harness to plug in there.

2. Get a body harness for the truck, a lot of time, ton of patience, and start stripping it out.

3. SDS from LC.


I ordered the ORS harness Friday.


Anyone have any luck getting Wilwood remote reservoirs to not leak?
They leak where the reservoir attaches to the mounting base. I think I'm going to start looking for a single reservoir to mount in their place.
Another reason to stick with the stock brakes :shaking:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/remote.jpg

[Im4yotas]

Did you just shove them in, or did you heat the base pieces first like you're supposed to? Could have easily cracked them...

[a2b]

I ordered the ORS harness Friday.


Anyone have any luck getting Wilwood remote reservoirs to not leak?
They leak where the reservoir attaches to the mounting base. I think I'm going to start looking for a single reservoir to mount in their place.
Another reason to stick with the stock brakes :shaking:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/remote.jpg

yeah. you are the second person to do the remote resivoiur..when i first did them, they didnt leak at the tube. i used clear tube i got from the hardware store. i didnt even use a clamp on it. the breather in the caps leaked though. anyways, i took the whole thing down cuz i wanted to build a hood, so now i dont have remote anymore.

[azyota]

Did you just shove them in, or did you heat the base pieces first like you're supposed to? Could have easily cracked them...

Yeah I heated them with a hair dryer. I didn't use a heat gun because I didn't want to get them too hot. Sombody else said that I may have them on too tight. I dunno!

[azyota]

yeah. you are the second person to do the remote resivoiur..when i first did them, they didnt leak at the tube. i used clear tube i got from the hardware store. i didnt even use a clamp on it. the breather in the caps leaked though. anyways, i took the whole thing down cuz i wanted to build a hood, so now i dont have remote anymore.

Did the vent in the caps leak pretty bad?

[a2b]

Did the vent in the caps leak pretty bad?


nope. it was weird, just one leaked pretty good, but later it stopped, i figure its because they must be filled with dust after 2 years of wheelin:D

[Landslide]

I'm not much of a Wildwood fan - seems like everyone I see using them have problems of one sort or another.

Would eomething like this work? I've used CNC in VW buggies years ago, they seem to be good quaility parts. Drop pedal w/mounted master cylinder (http://cncbrakes.com/cncbrakes.com-asp//dcbpa.asp?grp=dcbpa&subgrp=sm&series=214&subseries=ST)

Do you have emissions test where you like in AZ?

Very clean and nice build BTW.

[azyota]

I'm not much of a Wildwood fan - seems like everyone I see using them have problems of one sort or another.

Would eomething like this work? I've used CNC in VW buggies years ago, they seem to be good quaility parts. Drop pedal w/mounted master cylinder (http://cncbrakes.com/cncbrakes.com-asp//dcbpa.asp?grp=dcbpa&subgrp=sm&series=214&subseries=ST)

Do you have emissions test where you like in AZ?

Very clean and nice build BTW.

To do it over again if I wasn't going to run the stock set-up, I would probably go the CNC route. Right now, I'm too far down the Wilwood path to change it. At least for now. With the limited time I have had to work on it, it's been almost 7 months since I started building. Right now, I just want to wheel!

Yes we do have emission testing. There is a way around it for buggy's, specifically "dune buggy's" but I don't know all the details just yet. As soon as I do I'll post up.

So, are you still on the fence?

Thanks for the complement:beer:

[Landslide]

So, are you still on the fence?



The more I search about the F-toy's the more I like em.

Soon as the funds are avail, I'll be building one. I figure I'll set my sights for the 08 season.

[azyota]

Finally, it runs:bounce: :bounce:

Yesterday the wiring harness from ORS showed up. That thing is awesome. It took me all of about 2hrs to put it in. It took that long because I'm super slow with electrical stuff. Turned the ignition on, pushed the start button and it fired right up. I couldn't belive it. I thought sure after 6 months of sitting in my garage the motor would take a little bit to get it running.

I'm down to a little wiring like the alternator and tail lights. Then the roof, hood and side panels, and it's built.

Sunday is going to kick ass! I havn't been wheeling since the last weekend of April!

[a2b]

:smokin:

[ACE-CAGE-#29]

Finally, it runs:bounce: :bounce:

Yesterday the wiring harness from ORS showed up. That thing is awesome. It took me all of about 2hrs to put it in. It took that long because I'm super slow with electrical stuff. Turned the ignition on, pushed the start button and it fired right up. I couldn't belive it. I thought sure after 6 months of sitting in my garage the motor would take a little bit to get it running.

I'm down to a little wiring like the alternator and tail lights. Then the roof, hood and side panels, and it's built.

Sunday is going to kick ass! I havn't been wheeling since the last weekend of April!


It's such a great feeling when you finally start it up. Enjoy yourself!

Matt

[Air Ride]

Nice

[benttoy]

Awesome its a good feeling when you light it up the first time. Just dont get in a rush and halfass it take your time now and then enjoy it. looking good!!




Finally, it runs:bounce: :bounce:

Yesterday the wiring harness from ORS showed up. That thing is awesome. It took me all of about 2hrs to put it in. It took that long because I'm super slow with electrical stuff. Turned the ignition on, pushed the start button and it fired right up. I couldn't belive it. I thought sure after 6 months of sitting in my garage the motor would take a little bit to get it running.

I'm down to a little wiring like the alternator and tail lights. Then the roof, hood and side panels, and it's built.

Sunday is going to kick ass! I havn't been wheeling since the last weekend of April!

[azyota]

Awesome its a good feeling when you light it up the first time. Just dont get in a rush and halfass it take your time now and then enjoy it. looking good!!


Thanks all! I'm pretty stoked to get it out.

Benttoy, that's some damn good advice. Right now I'm really fighting the urge to just band-aid it together just to get out.

[azyota]

I tried to stop myself, but I couldn't help it. I had to hack it together to try it out. Overall it's working pretty good right out of the box. The suspension needs to be dialed in a bit. I think I need to raise the fromt bump stops about 1", and open up all the spring clamps. The brakes need some help too. Maybe just some getting used to.
A couple pics...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/First_trip_1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/First_trip_2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/First_trip_3.jpg
One of my wife driving :smokin:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/kris_1.jpg

[azyota]

I updated my thread yesterday, but it didn't go to the top of the page :confused:
Soooo....

[benttoy]

Glad to see you wheeling it. Its looking like your having a good time :D the first of many Iam sure

[azyota]

Well, it looks like I'm about finished. We got out today for the first good trail run. We ran Highway to Hell out near Florence AZ.
Everything work pretty well overall. I still want to work on the suspension a little. It seems like I should be able to get a little more droop out of the fronts.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/F-toy_1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/F-toy_2.jpg
Oops, my less than 24hr old sheetmetal....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/oops.jpg

[YELLOWHOBO]

Nice build! :smokin:

Don't throw those panels away yet... they will, someday, be the best that you have. :)

Look forward to seeing you out to compete!

[a2b]

sweet! i bet you are way stoaked http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/images/smilies/smokin.gif

[azyota]

sweet! i bet you are way stoaked http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/images/smilies/smokin.gif

Oh yea! Yesterday was too much fun, I had a great time. Looking forward to next weekend at PUSU.

Your going to be there, right Hobie?

[benttoy]

The car is looking good as for the panel damage slap a decal over the bad spot. Thats what we did every time we punched a hole in one:D We dont really have that many sponsors

[Hammer Hog]

Nice looking rig! The front end looks very cool...nice lines!:smokin:

[azyota]

The car is looking good as for the panel damage slap a decal over the bad spot. Thats what we did every time we punched a hole in one:D We dont really have that many sponsors

Ahh, I already fixed it. It's painted and everything, except a new sticker :shaking:

[azyota]

Nice looking rig! The front end looks very cool...nice lines!:smokin:

Thanks man! Coming from you that's a great compliment. Your pretty much F-toy OG! :grinpimp:

[azyota]

Now that I have the wider 86+ rear axle, I decided it was time to ditch the 2"BS wheels. I got some Black Rock Crawler wheels from Crossed Up and started designing my own outer rings. I already have the inner rings so I'm going to go ahead and use those. The outer rings will be made at Crossed Up.
Here are some models of the rings I'm planning to use.

The inners,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/DIY%20Beadlocks/15in_ring_rockstomper.jpg

Outers,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/DIY%20Beadlocks/15in_outter_spline.jpg

And the complete assy including hardware,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/DIY%20Beadlocks/spline_assy.jpg

[azyota]

Got the outer's cut out, and the inners welded on.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/DIY%20Beadlocks/unpainted.jpg

Finished and mounted :smokin:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/DIY%20Beadlocks/mounted.jpg

[ACE-CAGE-#29]

Nice Job! They look great.

[benttoy]

Sweet!

[azyota]

I havent done anything in a while worth posting, but this one is pretty cool. I posted this on the toy board but it goes down the page pretty quick, and I dont know haw many F-Toy guy's look there.
Anyway, At the last comp I did at Donner I bent my rear axle housing pretty bad. Mike and Jerrod over at Crossed Up built me a new one. This thing is beefy to say the least. The center section was fabricated from 1/4" plate and the axle tubes are 3" diameter x 3/8" walll DOM. The axle flanges are designed by Crossed Up and machined from billet by Tim Brown of Metal Works. And yes, they are for sale. Check out their site in my sig. Here are a few pics.
Flange and DOM axle tube.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/Flange_Tube.jpg
Flange after welding.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/Flange.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/Flange_Weld.jpg
This is the center section and billet aluminum oil fill plug. These things are pretty sweet. It's a machined steel piece threaded to fit the X-up cap, and is sealed with an O ring.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/Raw_Housing.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/Raw_Housing_1.jpg
Mike also set up this diff. V6 housing, 5.29,s and an ARB. :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/Chunk.jpg
I still need to finish cleaning up the brake lines. As it sits right now, I have
13" between the bottom of the housing and the floor. The tires are 37"s with 10psi in them. They measure just under 35" tall.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/Axle_Installed.jpg

[FYRDUDE]

That rear end is a thing of beauty!!!:smokin:
What the clearance of that thing compared with the Diamond?

[a2b]

that thing is not class legal. only diamonds are class legal.














j/k:flipoff2:

good work pat!!!! is kris going to spot for you next year?

[azyota]

That rear end is a thing of beauty!!!:smokin:
What the clearance of that thing compared with the Diamond?

I'll have to ask Mike about the clearance, I don't actually know myself.

[azyota]

good work pat!!!! is kris going to spot for you next year?

Thanks Hobie! The guy's at Crossed Up did a great job. They are also making front housings, but it will probably be a little while before I get one of those.

Yeah, Kris is going to be spotting for me. I think things are going to work out okay, we just need some more practice working together. Do you think you will be out for PUSU in January?

[azyota]

I started dialing in my suspension so I called Matt at Trail Gear. His F-Toy flexes great so I wanted some advise from him. He suggested his 5" lift springs with a few leafs removed, and going to 6" shackles. He also set me up with all the dimensions between the spring hanger and shackle hangers. Just by luck my front mounts were exactly the same and the rears were within 1/4". It sounded good so I ordered them up. Two days later they were here. Great service!
At first I put them on with the 5" shackles that I had to see where it would end up. The rears were way to far kicked back.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/Shackle_1.jpg
With this much angle just one persons weigh on the back would compress the suspension far enough to invert the shackles up against the rear X-member and they would stick that way. I went ahead and put the 6" shackles in and that made the angle about 42 deg from vertical. They seem to work great there.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/Angle_Rear.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/Rear_1.jpg
I left the front's with 5" shackles and wheeled it once, they would hit the frame on compression so I swapped them out to 6" shackles too. I havn't wheeled that yet, but the angles look good.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/Angle_Front.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/front_1-1.jpg
Working on a little more bling too :D I broke down and ordered up some Creeper Locks from Trail Gear too. I still need to work out tires, but the wheels look good in my shop. Same thing, ordered on Monday, at my doorstep Wednesday :smokin:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/TG_Wheels.jpg

[Jeep07]

looks great. Why are you switching beadlocks?

[azyota]

looks great. Why are you switching beadlocks?

I'm going to get some Krawlers soon. I needed 17" wheels.

[MT4Runner]

Iroks/beadlocks for sale?

[azyota]

Iroks/beadlocks for sale?

Yup! $850 OBO.

[azyota]

Got new tires today and got them mounted up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/Krawler_1.jpg
The Trail Gear beadlocks look great! I already feel bad about whats going to happen to them.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/arizonaxj/F-Toy/Krawler_2.jpg

[Skii4x$]

Those look really nice, I am sure you will enjoy them :)

[desertoy]

WOW, those tires and wheels make it look like a different rig.
NICE WORK!!

[handlebar]

Timpat If I didnt know better I would think you were trying to take the trailer-queen title away from me and Bernie. Looks good, we will see how it looks after this weekend.

[benttoy]

Sam they will never have a fish tank as nice as yours
The rig looks sweet with those wheels

[handlebar]

Mike and Jake, we cant thank you two enough for your continued support of the tank. Without those weekly checks for fish food and water and replacement fish the dream of having the only Ftoy fish tank would have Floundered. Thanks for the Clams.

[azyota]

WOW, those tires and wheels make it look like a different rig.
NICE WORK!!

They really do make it look like a different rig!

[azyota]

Timpat If I didnt know better I would think you were trying to take the trailer-queen title away from me and Bernie. Looks good, we will see how it looks after this weekend.

Fish tank is in the works. It's on now!!!

[handlebar]

So let the challenge begin, today I swapped out the axles for Dana 60s, a LS 2 now provides grunt and a state of the art GPS was installed, now I hit a button and this sexxxy voice says...cone on your left...turn right here...do rear burn now (love to hear that) and a 3 piece windshield with wipers and defrost. Not to mention the surround sound and plasma TV. My trailer park can kick yours 3 to 4 times a week.

[gregbrennan2004]

Wow i just read this entire thread and I cant wait to be the new owner

[azyota]

I'll give you a call this afternoon Greg.