My Pile Of Parts

[freds40]

Figured I'd jump on the wagon and throw up my build. It's a '64 I've had for a few months now and it's going to be a compilation of parts from various projects and a few new parts as the cash flow allows. This is the day after I brought it home.

[freds40]

It was built half way decent with a '76 front axle, a 327, sm 465, and this cool rear axle. It's an offset semi float 60 with 35 splie shafts, discs, and an eaton electric locker. Unfortunately I had hopes and aspirations of running a centered output t-case so it's on it's way out.

[freds40]

Got to hit a few snow runs before I tore into it. This one was my first time out with it and I got caught up with Weak-link. I was pretty disappointed in the performance of the carb (Edelbrock 600) and didn't feel like dealing with it so after this trip, I threw in my gotpropane setup left over from a Buggy build (no comments necessary Chris :flipoff2: )

[freds40]

One new part my wife concented to was a PRP bench for my 2 yr. old daughter. Unfortunately it didn't get installed right away so it was put to use by one of the other kids.

[freds40]

It had been a while since I was able to work on it so I invited it to my daughter's 2 yr. birthday party last weekend. :D

[Booger Weldz]

so it was put to use by one of the other kids.

youre daughter is super cute like her mom, but this kid definitely looks like you:flipoff2:

looks like were gonna have to change our annual father son trip to include daughters pretty soon, ethan ran fordyce with me and christian before he was 3...

[freds40]

While I'm at it, here she is testing out her new crash helmet and bike (it's a Speacialized :cool2: ) I figure she might need the helmet this summer when I take her up the hill.

[freds40]

youre daughter is super cute like her mom, but this kid definitely looks like you:flipoff2:

looks like were gonna have to change our annual father son trip to include daughters pretty soon, ethan ran fordyce with me and christian before he was 3...


I wanted to hit the Snow with Hazel but once again.....my junk was torn apart in the driveway. So Paul, how's your truck doing? :laughing:

[Booger Weldz]

I wanted to hit the Snow with Hazel but once again.....my junk was torn apart in the driveway. So Paul, how's your truck doing? :laughing:


the rear detroit was completely grenaded, gearman even gave me props:D i have that third and an ARB at his shop right now i gotta pick up tomorrow. i had a welded rear in it and it SUCKED!

[freds40]

And finally as it sits tonight. DHONDAGOD came over last week and we got the front axle set in place. Got the front spring mount welded up. It came with the 38s so that's what it's getting for now. (might have to snake my old man's 42s one of these days :evil: ) Front axle is prety pathetic. It was a partial trade for some other parts to my pops, converted it to single wheel, welded some 1/4" strap to the diff cover, sleeved the stock tie rod, Ground the calipers (because 15s are what I have), painted it purty and there it sits. It has no locker so I'm hoping the 30 spline outers will hold up until I can get the 35s.

[freds40]

Front axle is 9" forward and the rear is still in stock location. Rear will go back about 7-9" as well. It is on jack stands but @ ride height, it will be 1-2" lower than it is here. :smokin: Chris and I came up with an idea to allow about 4-5" of up travel, decent down travel, and keeping the whole truck relatively low.

[freds40]

Last one for now. Got these brackets from GRAVELMAKER. Great guy, great parts, and great prices. Hopefully get the front completely installed this week and start on the back end. A few minor touches and I'll hopefully be wheeling in 2-3 weeks. Back end is a 14 bolt w/ discs and it's welded up. Almost forgot, bolted a mini case behind the 465 w/ 4.7s. Again, it's what I had. Hopefully it will hold up for a while. I have a dana 300 (thanks again Georg) that will either replace the mini case or go in behind it. We'll see when the time comes.

[mean man michael]

im intrested in your front spring mounts, they look pretty cool. using stock cruiser fronts for the front?

[freds40]

the rear detroit was completely grenaded, gearman even gave me props:D i have that third and an ARB at his shop right now i gotta pick up tomorrow. i had a welded rear in it and it SUCKED!


So you going to come down and run DUSY and Swamp this year. I hear Chris was "exposed" to the glory of the booger pink thong and all. :laughing: Hopefully I'll hit the Con once or twice this year.

[freds40]

im intrested in your front spring mounts, they look pretty cool. using stock cruiser fronts for the front?

Yeah the hangers are made for stock Cruiser springs. IIRC they are around $30 a pair. Dan makes some awesome parts. I got his 14 bolt disc brackets for this build as well. The springs are stock height 40 front springs too.

[DHONDAGOD]

so whens the next work day? (and i hope your dog had an upset stomach :laughing: )


chris:cool2:

[freds40]

Going to try and hit it Wednesday and Thursday. John's going to lend his plasma to the cause so things should go a bit quicker. :D

[orangefj45]

nice job brendan. you gonna try to have it ready for rubithon?

[freds40]

It should be done but I don't think I'm going to make it. I'd like to but convincing the wife that I really need to leave for a long weekend and spend $400+ on a trip is proving difficult. :laughing:

[freds40]

Alright with a little daylight and since I have meetings in the office @ 8, here's a couple of close ups. The spring has probably 70-80% of the vehicles weight on it here. Like I said earlier, it will drop another inch or two when fully loaded.

[freds40]

Heres the front hanger/spring mounts. I don't think I used the mounts the way Gravel maker intended but they worked great for my purpose. When both axles are hung, these will be getting a bunch of gusseting and reinforcement.

[freds40]

Another overall now with daylight. :cool2:

[mean man michael]

if that rear axle is going in the garbage, Ill stop by and save you a trip to the dump. :D

[desertboy]

looks like it coming along nicely:smokin:

[freds40]

if that rear axle is going in the garbage, Ill stop by and save you a trip to the dump. :D


Already have abuddy that called dumpster dibs. :D

[ryanxj]

Another overall now with daylight. :cool2:


Yes, daylight good, nitetime bad.....:p


Looks good by the way. What are you going to end up with as a final wheelbase?

[freds40]

Shooting for 106-108

[weak-link]

Already have abuddy that called dumpster dibs. :D


For what I paid it better not be in a dumpster :shaking:

I'm on for wed or thursday, somebody needs to get you to cut half of the frame off :evil:

[LCOwner]

Looks good B.

[freds40]

For what I paid it better not be in a dumpster :shaking:

I'm on for wed or thursday, somebody needs to get you to cut half of the frame off :evil:


If I had a few more parts in hand, I'd consider it but @ this point, leafs are what I have access to so that's what's going in.

If you've got some time, I've got some stuff I could use a hand on. :D

[freds40]

Looks good B.


Thanks Tim. So how goes being a daddy? :eek: :flipoff2:

[LCOwner]

He is a real blessing. Melts my heart when ever I look at him.

[Gravel Maker]

But, hey, it looks like they will give you yet another inch that way.....

Heres the front hanger/spring mounts. I don't think I used the mounts the way Gravel maker intended but they worked great for my purpose. When both axles are hung, these will be getting a bunch of gusseting and reinforcement.

[freds40]

But, hey, it looks like they will give you yet another inch that way.....


As long as the wife's happy, that's all that matters. :laughing:

I was going to ask you if this voided the warranty since I'm not using them in the fashion they were originally intended. :D

[DHONDAGOD]

For what I paid it better not be in a dumpster :shaking:

I'm on for wed or thursday, somebody needs to get you to cut half of the frame off :evil:


define "dumpster" :flipoff2: (did i tell you about my new rear axle i got for my cruiser?)


X2 on whacking the frame in two.... the only thing he's got to cut it with is a hacksaw but with three of us we can take turns... :D



chris:cool2:

[freds40]

I got John's plasma for a week or so but I still don't think I will. :D

[freds40]

Not too much more to report. Got the other wheel on and set it down to ride height. Appears to be 2-3" lower than the earlier pic. Back end is sitting a bit high now.

[freds40]

And my front shackles. They'll get cleaned up a bit and have some gusseting. Hopefully have the front end back on the ground tomorrow night.

[freds40]

Been a while since I posted on this. Unfortunately my camera got left @ my sis' house in Petaluma so I gots no pics. Chris snapped a couple last week, maybe he'll post them. Any way. Front axle is mounted, slightly unconventionally (pic would help) and just got the rear tacked in last night. It's sitting @ 109" WB and for the tires that have found their way under, it should work fine. With any luck, some passer by will snap a few pics and post them, I'll see what I can do. :D

[DHONDAGOD]

pics are over on marlins board...... you can move them here..:D

edit: im bored waiting for the bell to ring... here's some pics

pic of disk brake brackets from ruffstuffspecialties.com

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6519/img0684small6ls.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/7241/img0685small9om.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

here's a pic of the shackles tacked in checking for fitment.. we went a little outside the box on these...

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/6618/img0671small8ev.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7623/img0672small4lp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1645/img0676small2ip.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



chris:cool2:

[DHONDAGOD]

more

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/8605/img0679small7yz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/7163/img0677small2as.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

once we were happy that they wouldnt bottom out when the springs compressed we welded them in...

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/629/img0686small0zw.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/4265/img0687small4pe.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/5763/img0688small8vm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

brendon can chime in and answer any questions...


chris:cool2:

[freds40]

Thanks for moving them Chris. I'm not quite that computer savy. :D

[Gravel Maker]

really interesting way to outboard.......I like it

[freds40]

Yeah we were brainstorming for a bit on how to keep the axle fullwidth and keep it as low as possible. With the steering box in, up travel is limited to about 5" @ the frame which should still be plenty @ the tire. I'm happy with how they turned out. Chris spent a few hours "prettying" them up.

[DHONDAGOD]

really interesting way to outboard.......I like it


thanks dan:beer:

now, before anyone jumps in saying how your not supposed to weld vertically on a frame because it can crack, break in half and everyone could die, let me just state that i know that...




























(but it is brendons so its not like he's going to wheel it anyway:flipoff2: )


chris:laughing:

[freds40]

Ya Bastid. :flipoff2:

[John H]

Ok here are the pics from my phone. I know.....they are kinda krappy. Brendon can chim in about the ubolts.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=248482&stc=1&d=1149559036
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=248483&stc=1&d=1149559036
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=248484&stc=1&d=1149559036
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=248485&stc=1&d=1149559036

[freds40]

I thought every other thread on this board preached about the benefits of triangulation? :laughing:

[John H]

:D :D :shaking: :D

[Gravel Maker]

really interesting way to outboard.......I like it

[weak-link]

http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/5167/scruiser0068ua.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2046/scruiser0010yq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I post some more later, image shack took a dump

[weak-link]

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/3001/scruiser0026ko.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/5688/scruiser0036un.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[freds40]

Thanks for the pics Jason. It is Super wide right now as the Hummer wheels have not been recentered so they are on backwards for the truck to be able to sit down. Needless to say, there will be a bit more fender trimming on the back end. :D

[freds40]

Got the trimming done on the back end. I'm happy with how it turned out, just need to clean up the radius' a bit.

[freds40]

Got my Hummer centers ordered up from USA 6X6 (no drama about this please) and I have some Mad 4x4 arms coming any day.

[freds40]

Got my S & N Fab Drive Flanges too.

[freds40]

Few updates. Lomax kit is here and I'm waiting on my front output so I can finish putting it together.

[freds40]

Hummer wheels recentered and tires remounted.

[freds40]

Turbo 400 is rebuilt and in (thanks John H) Really looking forward to wheeling an auto.

[freds40]

And last for now, got the steering box remounted.

[freds40]

I'm happy with the results. Still need jam nuts and need to install assist.

[freds40]

Best of all, no steering links in front of the axle. :D

[DHONDAGOD]

Turbo 400 is rebuilt and in (thanks John H) Really looking forward to wheeling an auto.

you wheel?? :confused: :confused:


chris:cool2:

[freds40]

Nope, but now when I'm sitting in it in the garage, making the motor noises, I won't be able to take as long of a breath between shifts. :D

[Flatty]

Got pics of it on the wheels and tires now that you got recentered rims?

DIma

[freds40]

It's in the garage so it's not a great pic. The wheels are at 3.5" BS.

[freds40]

Just a Quick one. Got the Lomax case built. From my dealings with this case so far, I'm impressed. JB was awesome to deal with, I got the case in short time, the instructions were great (basic 205 rebuild with 2 minor mods), and of course the price. Can't wait to wheel it.

Thanks again Toploader for the donor case. :beer:

[freds40]

Wheeled it out today and got a bit done.

[freds40]

Got to take it for a spin around the block. Got some funny looks from the neighbors. (maybe because I was sitting on the battery :laughing: )

[freds40]

And yes, weak-link and John took advantage of my absence on a parts run to "help" with my exaust. :eek:

[freds40]

90 degree out of the manifold and it's in better shape than what I started with. :laughing:

[peesalot]

Could you post some close up pics of the outboard hangers and shackles ? I like the design , it looks like it would give lots of droop witht he right spring ?

[DHONDAGOD]

Could you post some close up pics of the outboard hangers and shackles ? I like the design , it looks like it would give lots of droop witht he right spring ?



better pics on page two pees


chris:cool2:

[LCOwner]

Got to take it for a spin around the block. Got some funny looks from the neighbors. (maybe because I was sitting on the battery :laughing: )


You fit in well in Reedley.:D :laughing:

[nolan]

gotta get the exhaust routed inside the frame rails:shaking: ,i stuffed a round magnaflow between my t-case and frame rail. sits above my skid plate. works great:cool2:

[freds40]

Believe me, this is an extremely TEMPORARY fix to get the front shaft in. With any luck it will b ecleaned up and tucked up into the rails by the end of the week.


BTW Tim, how's yours coming? Also, when do you guys close Dusy?

[LCOwner]

BTW Tim, how's yours coming? Also, when do you guys close Dusy?


I haven't touched it in a while. A friend is doing some machine work for me and I'm kind of on his schedule, if you know what I mean. We are going in to do our year end cleanup next weekend. If you're interested in going meet at the restrooms at Kaiser Pass 8:00am Saturday. Unfortunatly I can't make it. I've been TOLD I have a family gathering to attend. :shaking:

[Toploader]

Right on! I like the looks of that rig, all buisness. Glad the t-case worked out.:beer:

[freds40]

Last Friday, Chris hooked me up with a nice clean exaust system.

[freds40]

Got rid of my make shift rock sliders. :laughing:

[freds40]

And this is where we left it. It was about 11 Friday night and I need to clean up some stuff on the back end of the framer any way. Eventually it might get run out the back but for now, the turn down works.

[freds40]

One from my clubs Pastor appreciation run Saturday.

[freds40]

He seemed to really appreciate it when I let him drive. :cool2:

[John H]

Were are all the pics from the Dusy recovery mission.:flipoff2:

[freds40]

It was dark, I had no passenger, and I was too busy driving in so I could go home and sleep. :D

Did get 1 @ Mallard lake campground when Weak Link was loading up his stuff for the trip out. Man for this kind of Taxi service, I really need to raise my rates. :p

[orangefj45]

righton branden, that turned out so sweet. looks a little different than the turd you had on the trailer when you stopped at my place on the way home from picking it up!:laughing:

are you running some sort of skid plate under the trans. cast aluminum transmission pans do not like rocks very much!:nuke:

[freds40]

Thanks Georg. Yeah I have a sheet of 3/16 sitting in the garage. Unfortunately the call for help until the time I hit the trail Sunday didn't leave time to install it. Needless to say I was picking my lines VERY carefully in and out on Dusy.

[freds40]

Bored tonight so I figured I'd update. My wife has been put on severe bed rest for the last 6 weeks so needless to say playing "mr. Amanda" (as she likes to put it) has left me little time to work on the Cruiser. Any free time I have found, I've actually used to wheel. :eek: :laughing: So far everything is working out pretty well. There are a few leaks I need to fix, DEFINATELY need a traction bar, and shocks would be nice as I've been cruising on the street around town WAY more than I figured I would. Any way, I got it out a couple of weekends back and got my poser flex shot. Durn fwheel well is in the way. :D

[freds40]

The shackle is a Con Fer piece I had laying around that I threw on. I need a shackle about 2" longer so the rear springs aren't working too hard.

[freds40]

So far I'm happy with the Wheel base. Even open, I've been able to get up some relatively steep stuff. Using the throttle helps a bit but this is where the use of a traction bar would help. This is the biggest tire I've run yet and I'm hooked. Big rubber definately = smaller rocks. :D

[freds40]

Total night and day difference from my last wheelable trail rig (semi built mini truck) so it's been fun learning the new rig, or at least the new mods.

[freds40]

My club has done a couple of local Christmas parades.

[freds40]

Best part is with mom down, Hazel and I get to spend time in the Cruiser and she had a blast in the parades. She's 2 1/2 and on Saturday after the last parade, she told me my cruiser was the best. Even though it might not be true, still made me feel pretty good. Now she keeps asking when we're going to take the "coozer" up to the mountains and drive around. Hopefully soon in the white stuff.

[Rat70FJ]

Best part is with mom down, Hazel and I get to spend time in the Cruiser and she had a blast in the parades. She's 2 1/2 and on Saturday after the last parade, she told me my cruiser was the best. Even though it might not be true, still made me feel pretty good. Now she keeps asking when we're going to take the "coozer" up to the mountains and drive around. Hopefully soon in the white stuff.


That's the best stuff in life there. Enjoy it.

[freds40]

Well I wasn't too happy with how things were working so I decided to start back @ square one.

[freds40]

Cleaner than my current tub.

[freds40]

Passenger floor is uncut and rust free.

[DHONDAGOD]

Why dont you just sell it now instead of taking it apart again.... :shaking:


Chris:cool2:

[freds40]

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I knew you would have something to say about it. :laughing:

No I just picked this up today for some body mods I've wanted to do. :laughing:

[LCOwner]

I thought I saw you on Ave 12.

[freds40]

Yup, just left Brian's. :D I need some more room in the rig for Hazel and the new baby and Brian happened to have this tub laying around.

[freds40]

Well after a nice Christmas bonus, I was ablt to pick up some 5.38s for the 60 and 14 bolt and also an ARB for the 60. A buddy helped me get them installed last weekend. Tonight, we finally got a Traction bar in this thing. Still needs some gusseting but I think it will hold for the snow (if there is any) on Saturday.

[freds40]

REALLY wanted to take it for a spin around the hood but I just came in about 15 minutes ago and my hands are barely thawing out as it is.

I think the bar will work pretty well. The outer part is 2" .250 and the inner is 1.5" .250. Actually the inner is now .240 wall as I had to turn down .010 off the OD as it would not slide in before.

[Eskimo]

IMO, the lower is short enough not to need a gusset...

P.S. your axle is leaking.. :flipoff2:

[freds40]

Not much new to report. Although I am almost done mounting the front shocks. :D

Anyway, just wanted to show off my pride and joys.

Hazel is almost 3 and can't wait to "take my coozer to the mountains and drive around."
Helen was born on Wednesday and made Hazel a very proud big sis.

And mamma is plain fried but enjoying the fact that Helen is a really good sleeper. :D

[LCOwner]

Right on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[911SMIL]

Congrats to everyone!! Can't wait to meet the newest member of the family, even if she isn't "Jack"!!

Glad everyone is doing well...

Susan

[swilson]

Congrats!

[scraprock]

Back up for Brendan! Any new things for everyone?

(btw, how you doing buddy? See you and the rest of the gang in August hopefully)

[freds40]

Alright, little update. Cruiser is on blocks again although I finally got the blocks out from under the front.
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u86/freds40/DSCN1762.jpg

Yup, I tore out the 60 and 14 bolt and Rocks are going in. I ended up having to lift the Cruiser 4" to clear the chunks but I'll get it back later on down the line.
Spring hanger:
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u86/freds40/DSCN1760.jpg

Another
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u86/freds40/DSCN1730.jpg

Shackle hanger
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u86/freds40/DSCN1761.jpg

[Eskimo]

Hell yeah...

That's alot of work with the 'ol flap disc, but it looks really nice, very desert-truck-ish...

How tall is it to the bottom of the frame right now?

[DHONDAGOD]

'Bout time you updated this! :flipoff2:

Is it done yet? Whats left?


Chris:cool2:

[fj40forlife]

how long where you running the one ton?

[freds40]

Hell yeah...

That's alot of work with the 'ol flap disc, but it looks really nice, very desert-truck-ish...

How tall is it to the bottom of the frame right now?

Not positive on the belly height. IIRC it will be about 27". A bit taller than I wanted but with the full frame, I'm about as low as I dare go. The top of the front chunk is about 3-3.5" from the bottom of the crossmember below the rad.

[freds40]

'Bout time you updated this! :flipoff2:

Is it done yet? Whats left?


Chris:cool2:

Nah, these pics are from last night. I need to get the rear suspension dropped 4", then I can set the t-case crossmember, finish the steering, the brakes. I still have a bit to do and with the heat I only get out there for a couple of hours about every other day. :(

[freds40]

how long where you running the one ton?

NOT VERY! :laughing: I figure actually wheeling the 1 tons was about 6 mos.
I'm planning on adding a bit more wheelbase to the truck and didn't feel like making 3 point (or more) turns on every jog in the trail. This route is a bit cheaper than steering the 14 bolt.

[Eskimo]

aaahhh, rear steer, too.. niiice.

[freds40]

Little update with crappy cell phone pics. The frame is now stretched 16" from stock. The WB is sitting @ 119". With a skid as it sits, the belly will be 27" but I'm leaning towards flat belly with this wheel base. That would put me about 29". Right now the over all height @ the windshield frame is 84". It will come down.

[freds40]

Progress is very slow going. Life got busy. I'm fine with taking my time on it except when my 3 yr. old asks to go camping and wheeling and I have to tell her the Cruiser is still broken. :(

[freds40]

When I did the frame stretch, I also pinched the frame. It is pinched 8" @ the back. This shoule help with clearence for the rear steer.

[freds40]

Toploader was down getting some parts this morning so he gave me ahand throwing the tub on.

[freds40]

It's still sitting a bit high but the top will come down. I ended up flat belly @ 27" so I'm happy with the bottom.

[freds40]

Got a used set of Ouverson brakes so I just need to add a bit of hard line and I will have brakes once again. I'm moving in a few weeks so my goal is to drive the cruiser onto the trailer. Brakes would help. :D

[LCOwner]

So I saw it on the trailer at your parent's place...What's the story?

[freds40]

Just moved back to Fresno. It's been out there for a few days while I get the new garage in decent order. It's coming home tomorrow afternoon. :D Still need to get the 220 wired up in the garage but should have that done in the next couple of weeks as long as things settle down a bit.

[SeaBass44]

9 months, saw a link to this in the year old red rockit thread, got an update

[freds40]

Yeah about like you and Paul, this one got parted out and I'm onto something new. :laughing:
Wish I still had the 40, it was a blast. But the new one will be awesome for getting the family out camping. Should have the first trip hopefully this week.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/221512-freds40-builds-60-a.html

[SeaBass44]

Yeah about like you and Paul, this one got parted out and I'm onto something new. :laughing:
Wish I still had the 40, it was a blast. But the new one will be awesome for getting the family out camping. Should have the first trip hopefully this week.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/221512-freds40-builds-60-a.html
:laughing::laughing::laughing:

I hear that:homer: