: Why you shouldn't run 44" tires on a Dana 44


6.2Blazer
05-08-2006, 10:13 AM
Nice looking truck.
http://coloradok5.com/photos/data/726/betride233.jpg

But this is what happens when you combine 44" Boggers, Dana 44 front axle, and actual trail use.
http://coloradok5.com/photos/data/726/betride235.jpg

ChevyBlazer383
05-08-2006, 10:53 AM
oops, lets see some pics of what it looks like underneath. What happened balljoints take a massive dump?

6.2Blazer
05-08-2006, 10:58 AM
Yep, the balljoints popped off. Not sure of the details because I wasn't there. He did get it fixed and running later in the day.

The worst thing is that those pictures were taken only about 200 yards into the trail.

reddman
05-08-2006, 11:08 AM
44s + 44s = :nuke: :laughing:

mudslinger99
05-08-2006, 11:30 AM
The worst thing is that those pictures were taken only about 200 yards into the trail.
If that's the case he had problems and worn out parts before he got there :shaking:

cbbr
05-08-2006, 11:32 AM
I can't imagine how he would have worn anything out. How did they repair it/get it off the trail?

6.2Blazer
05-08-2006, 12:17 PM
If that's the case he had problems and worn out parts before he got there :shaking:

Soooo............if you have new parts in a Dana 44 it's okay to try to climb a 3' vertical rock ledge that transistions into a steep hill with a heavy vehicle on 44" Boggers with really wide wheels?

New parts or not, you can not beat on a Dana 44 front axle with that much tire and expect it not to scatter.

mudslinger99
05-08-2006, 12:47 PM
Soooo............if you have new parts in a Dana 44 it's okay to try to climb a 3' vertical rock ledge that transistions into a steep hill with a heavy vehicle on 44" Boggers with really wide wheels?

New parts or not, you can not beat on a Dana 44 front axle with that much tire and expect it not to scatter.
Despite what some of you "I heard it on the internet so it must be true guys" think, a d44 or a 10 bolt don't explode in 200 yds due to big tires :shaking: I stated that he had problems long before he tried that trail that day.. I'm guessing like most he put new tires on an old axle with worn out parts and it broke.. The same thing will happen to a d60 or any other axle that is worn out..

Just because you all didn't start wheeling until everybody said get a d60 or stay home doesn't mean that everything else is junk.. People have been wheeling d44's and 10 bolts for years WITH big tires and not have them explode when you start the truck like some of y'all claim :shaking: Look around this board and you will see plenty of people wheeling them and not having the problems you're claiming..

6.2Blazer
05-08-2006, 01:28 PM
Despite what some of you "I heard it on the internet so it must be true guys" think, a d44 or a 10 bolt don't explode in 200 yds due to big tires :shaking: I stated that he had problems long before he tried that trail that day.. I'm guessing like most he put new tires on an old axle with worn out parts and it broke.. The same thing will happen to a d60 or any other axle that is worn out..

Just because you all didn't start wheeling until everybody said get a d60 or stay home doesn't mean that everything else is junk.. People have been wheeling d44's and 10 bolts for years WITH big tires and not have them explode when you start the truck like some of y'all claim :shaking: Look around this board and you will see plenty of people wheeling them and not having the problems you're claiming..

I understand your point, but I don't think the circumstances of the pictures I posted agree with your view. You can take that Dana 44 front axle home after every ride and put new shafts, u-joints, balljoints, wheel bearings, etc.. in it, but you are still going to grenade it on at least a semi-regular basis with those huge tires and running difficult trails. It is just way beyond the design criteria of that axle. Keep in mind that the picture of the ledge is not some optional playrock......it is the trail, and not the hardest obstacle either.

I've owned my current trail vehicle since 1994, and I ran it with various forms of 10-bolt front axles in it for years (never ran over a 35" tire with it, and still broke it several times). I've also been active with our local club since the late-90's and served as president for 2 years, including probably at least 50-60 trailrides........so not like I'm just regurgiating something I read on the internet, but rather talking from personal experience.

MudzerK5
05-08-2006, 02:50 PM
Despite what some of you "I heard it on the internet so it must be true guys" think, a d44 or a 10 bolt don't explode in 200 yds due to big tires :shaking: I stated that he had problems long before he tried that trail that day.. I'm guessing like most he put new tires on an old axle with worn out parts and it broke.. The same thing will happen to a d60 or any other axle that is worn out..

Just because you all didn't start wheeling until everybody said get a d60 or stay home doesn't mean that everything else is junk.. People have been wheeling d44's and 10 bolts for years WITH big tires and not have them explode when you start the truck like some of y'all claim :shaking: Look around this board and you will see plenty of people wheeling them and not having the problems you're claiming..

:rainbow:

Having too small of a shaft diameter, weak ball joints, tiny u-joints - all have nothing to do with breakage... :shaking: :flipoff2:

scatterbrain
05-08-2006, 03:30 PM
I've seen a blazer w/ a brand new D44 and 44" swampers make it three feet in the mud and have his ball joints pop out. It's a f-in D44, run small tires or get a 60.

jackedupjimmy
05-08-2006, 03:37 PM
it all depends on driving styles and habits, ive heard of people running 44's on a 44 and never break anything and people break the hell out of every with 35's it depends on alot of factors

redneckcadi
05-08-2006, 06:48 PM
I run a d44 front in my truck and i Bogged it never had a problem but the rear Is another story

DUG
05-08-2006, 07:16 PM
Despite what some of you "I heard it on the internet so it must be true guys" think, a d44 or a 10 bolt don't explode in 200 yds due to big tires :shaking: I stated that he had problems long before he tried that trail that day.. I'm guessing like most he put new tires on an old axle with worn out parts and it broke.. The same thing will happen to a d60 or any other axle that is worn out..

Just because you all didn't start wheeling until everybody said get a d60 or stay home doesn't mean that everything else is junk.. People have been wheeling d44's and 10 bolts for years WITH big tires and not have them explode when you start the truck like some of y'all claim :shaking: Look around this board and you will see plenty of people wheeling them and not having the problems you're claiming..

My hella under powered 6.2 Blazer with managed to snap a 10 bolt shaft like nothing with a 36" tire the first trip I had it out, I was suprised how little effort it to took.

Maybe the interweb was right on that one?

Do I think by 10 bolts are as week as everyonelikes to make them out to be? No. But I do have to face the simple fact that it is a tiny little axle and a big tire is just more then it can take. Same as a 44 front with a WIDE wheel with bad backspacing is not goign to be able to handle the stress of a 44" tire under load.

coolmudrunner
05-08-2006, 07:25 PM
I am/was running a d44 4.10 gears, in my fullsize that is big block powered and is sitting on 37 boggers. I never busted a shaft, poped a ball joint, or grenaded a u joint. The first thing to go on mine was my R & P teeth. And that was because I had the front tires down in a small creek and gave it full throttle in reverse.

suburban N progress
05-08-2006, 08:08 PM
Nice looking truck.
http://coloradok5.com/photos/data/726/betride233.jpg

But this is what happens when you combine 44" Boggers, Dana 44 front axle, and actual trail use.
http://coloradok5.com/photos/data/726/betride235.jpg


Ha thats exactly what happen to my burb after running 42's and deep mud and water for 3 days without even checking anything...Thats incredibly to much tire for that axle so I bought a 60...And for those who say "ive wheeled 89 years witha 10 bolt and 33's or 39's or 36's or 37's..." UNTIL you wheel with a 21x44x16.5 BOGGER shuuuuuuuuuuudup.

KidJethro
05-09-2006, 12:47 AM
UNTIL you wheel with a 21x44x16.5 BOGGER shuuuuuuuuuuudup.


Ain't that the truth. :smokin:

JK5
05-09-2006, 05:06 AM
I understand your point, but I don't think the circumstances of the pictures I posted agree with your view. You can take that Dana 44 front axle home after every ride and put new shafts, u-joints, balljoints, wheel bearings, etc.. in it, but you are still going to grenade it on at least a semi-regular basis with those huge tires and running difficult trails. It is just way beyond the design criteria of that axle. Keep in mind that the picture of the ledge is not some optional playrock......it is the trail, and not the hardest obstacle either.

I've owned my current trail vehicle since 1994, and I ran it with various forms of 10-bolt front axles in it for years (never ran over a 35" tire with it, and still broke it several times). I've also been active with our local club since the late-90's and served as president for 2 years, including probably at least 50-60 trailrides........so not like I'm just regurgiating something I read on the internet, but rather talking from personal experience.

Well said!!!:D

Only a rookie wheeler would argue on this issue.:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

mdill
05-09-2006, 07:16 AM
Pretty much comes down to, 44" on a D44 is not a good
idea, unless it is a pure poser rig. Though those curbs at Burger King can be killer.

Mike D.

MudzerK5
05-09-2006, 09:49 AM
Pretty much comes down to, 44" on a D44 is not a good
idea, unless it is a pure poser rig. Though those curbs at Burger King can be killer.

Mike D.

What it comes down to, a D44 is no good!:flipoff2:

I saw two axleshafts snap without moving - one in forward, one in reverse while a K5 tried to get unstuck. He had 35" tires.

evenmadderdawg
05-09-2006, 10:06 AM
I run 49" IROKS on my stock d30- wheelin', muddin', towing, jumping... not a single problem. I was thinking of upgrading to a 44, are you guys saying not to?




















:grinpimp: :flipoff2: :laughing:

suburban N progress
05-09-2006, 11:02 AM
^^^^^ I read that like 4 times just to make sure I wasnt confusing myself^^^

SouthernK5
05-09-2006, 11:34 AM
i dont think the guy broke anythin in that pic, hes jus got sick flex!

mudslinger is far from a newb, hes got a badass truck. fact of the matter is, if youve gt an open end in a d44, youll be able to get by with big tires and a light foot. the minute u add a traction device and some pedal its all over.

mUD uCKeR
05-09-2006, 12:13 PM
I wheel with a narrowed Dana 44 with 38" Boggers... And sadly, even with regular greasing... my ball joints seem to go excessivly loose after about 1 year, 1 1/2" years. At the time i built it... i was only running 36's. And it's wasn't bad, running the wider, bigger and heavier bogger tire... definitly changed things. I will change them one more time probably, then i guess like everyone else, and everyone that told me when i built my dana 44... i will start the search for a 60.... :S

IronClad
05-09-2006, 01:47 PM
got a truck here ( toyota though) 44 front and 49" iroks.. so far only 2 broken stub shafts.. alloys at that.. stuck STOCK 10bolt stubs in it and stock ujoints ( took the ctms out) wheeled the entire EJS time and never broke.. even rolled the truck off of double whammy.. hes thinking of takeing the alloys out all together..

That dudes shit must have been worn out.. Ive only had one balljoint go bad in my 10bolt and my shit has heavy tires and gets jumped and ran hard.

MudzerK5
05-09-2006, 02:06 PM
i dont think the guy broke anythin in that pic, hes jus got sick flex!

mudslinger is far from a newb, hes got a badass truck. fact of the matter is, if youve gt an open end in a d44, youll be able to get by with big tires and a light foot. the minute u add a traction device and some pedal its all over.

Not to keep this up, but explain light foot...

When your truck is bound up between a rock and a hard place and you need to move. Do you, barely give it gas and hope by sheer luck you get out? No, you give it gas until something happens, in this case its your Dana 44! :flipoff2:

SouthernK5
05-09-2006, 02:37 PM
haha well by light foot i would do mud instead of rocks....rocks are a death trap for a fullsize on 1/2tons

Kilborg
05-09-2006, 02:56 PM
Hehe, nice carnage...

Anyway, can you wheel big tires (ie 40+) on halfton gear? Kinda. If you keep up with replacing stuff before it explodes (sometimes impossible) you can keep them together with a light foot or staying away from anything that will put undue stress on it (ie being a sissy). You can upgrade all you want but it only goes so far. Shit with 44's I would be weary even with a stock dana 60.

My partner at work runs 44's with a 292 on his 3/4 ton chevy and has plenty of problems. He isn't nice to it, but beater trucks arent beaters because they were babied.

theydontstop
05-09-2006, 03:21 PM
First off, you shouldn't run 44's on a D44. However, that guy had something messed up before this, because his front end is WAYYY unloaded going UP the ledge and managed to pop the balljoints. Still 44's are bad on a D44.

As for whoever mentioned until you run 21x44x16.5 Boggers shut up"", well, that would include you too, cause 44" Boggers are 19.5" wide, not 21" wide:shaking: :shaking: :shaking:

suburban N progress
05-09-2006, 04:02 PM
damn...yep...your right. 19.5...Guess you didnt catch the sarcasm there..but its cool..welcome to pirate young one.

theydontstop
05-09-2006, 04:10 PM
It's all good. 21" wide, 19.5" wide, who cares. 44's + D44's=good reading material and excellent carnage photos.

oldrivers
05-09-2006, 04:19 PM
Are ball joint dana 60s stronger than the 44 versions?? Yeah i know the axles and other stuff is but are the ball joints themseles tougher or close to the same as the 44s.

weaselzz
05-09-2006, 05:30 PM
Are ball joint dana 60s stronger than the 44 versions?? Yeah i know the axles and other stuff is but are the ball joints themseles tougher or close to the same as the 44s.


well chevy 60 axles have kingpins so to answer you question no, there is no comparison.

79lt1K20
05-09-2006, 05:54 PM
it all depends on driving styles and habits, ive heard of people running 44's on a 44 and never break anything and people break the hell out of every with 35's it depends on alot of factors

It doesnt nessecarily depned on how you drive it. a 44" wdie tire with wide rims weighs alot! and on a full size rig thats alot of stress ont he ball joints whather you wheel hard or not.

79lt1K20
05-09-2006, 05:55 PM
well chevy 60 axles have kingpins so to answer you question no, there is no comparison.

but newer ford and dodge axles have bj's

The newer 60 balljoints are bigger so they are stronger. how much im not sure but several guys on the board run em.

79lt1K20
05-09-2006, 05:58 PM
got a truck here ( toyota though) 44 front and 49" iroks.. so far only 2 broken stub shafts.. alloys at that.. stuck STOCK 10bolt stubs in it and stock ujoints ( took the ctms out) wheeled the entire EJS time and never broke.. even rolled the truck off of double whammy.. hes thinking of takeing the alloys out all together..

That dudes shit must have been worn out.. Ive only had one balljoint go bad in my 10bolt and my shit has heavy tires and gets jumped and ran hard.

umm how light is that toyota compared to a fullsize?:shaking:

SouthernK5
05-09-2006, 06:02 PM
well chevy 60 axles have kingpins so to answer you question no, there is no comparison.

yea but newer dodge and ford d60s are balljoint

doh, you beat me to it

IronClad
05-09-2006, 06:07 PM
doesnt matter when you bind tires up.. especially with 44/49" tires

and you wheel in areas like this

http://users.4x4wh.com/anthrax/P1010299.jpg

and this

http://users.4x4wh.com/anthrax/P1010264.jpg

btw in that pic he was backing UP it with atleast 80% of the trucks weight on the front end cranked full lock.. truck was bouncing so hard people standing near it ran for fear of shrapnel out of the front end.. 44" boggers.. he now runs 49" iroks

you can play the weight game all you want but we beat on them just as hard

reddman
05-09-2006, 09:04 PM
ive heard of people running 44's on a 44 and never break anything
its pretty hard to break something that never leaves the driveway :laughing:

habitatxskate
05-10-2006, 06:23 AM
chevy 10 bolts are the same strength as a d44 since most of the interiors are the same size, GM pretty much copied the design..i run 35's on that and haven't had a problem..it also tows 2 quads and 2 dirtbikes in an enclosed trailer, just takes a little more throttle to get the tires spinning when you are going uphill, or if you just need to get going.

6.2Blazer
05-10-2006, 09:35 AM
First off, you shouldn't run 44's on a D44. However, that guy had something messed up before this, because his front end is WAYYY unloaded going UP the ledge and managed to pop the balljoints. Still 44's are bad on a D44.



Oh, so the front tires magically were placed at the top of the rock ledge versus being shoved up against the 3' vertical ledge and given enough gas so they climbed up it? It's also a good thing the guy did not pop the front tires off the ground and then have them slam back into rock while under throttle:shaking:

theydontstop
05-10-2006, 12:05 PM
Oh, so the front tires magically were placed at the top of the rock ledge versus being shoved up against the 3' vertical ledge and given enough gas so they climbed up it? It's also a good thing the guy did not pop the front tires off the ground and then have them slam back into rock while under throttle:shaking:

If the front end was shoved into the ledge as you say and had to "give it enough gas to climb it", that would have bound the front axle up and either A. broken an axle shaft B. broke a u-joint C. broke a hub D. broke side and spider gears E. all of the above and in any case the truck wouldn't have been able to climb this "ledge". Been there, seen that.

It could be that I just read all this on the internet, or it could be I've limped(beat on it to get to pavement) home in an 8200lb Suburban on 37's with front wheel drive only on a locked Dana 44 with stock shafts and spicers joints and never broke.

That thing had a bad balljoint to begin with. And if anyone else has noticed this, I seem to see the lower balljoints wear out faster than the uppers.

Also, yes it is good not to bounce the front end and land under throttle, although it makes for great fun watching the locking hubs shoot off of the axle in pieces, if the rest of the drivetrain stays together.....

6.2Blazer
05-10-2006, 01:06 PM
Well, apparently it must be okay to run 44" Boggers on 14" wide rims on a front Dana 44, because as long as the parts are in good shape it will hold together just fine as I've been told.

.........so I'm going to make some cash by selling my front Dana 60 and replacing it with a $100 Dana 44 or 10-bolt because it will be much cheaper and hold up just fine.

And not sure why I didn't think of this in the first place........I can use the extra cash to replace my 38's with 44's! Wow, what a great idea! Just wait until I post this revelation on the General discussion board on here. Then everybody will be getting rid of their Dana 60's because you just don't need them.

Oh yeah, I'll also throw in all of the broken Dana 60 30-spline stubs when I sell my D60.......because of course the Dana 44 will hold up fine.... :shaking: :shaking: :shaking:

theydontstop
05-10-2006, 04:25 PM
Well, apparently it must be okay to run 44" Boggers on 14" wide rims on a front Dana 44, because as long as the parts are in good shape it will hold together just fine as I've been told.

.........so I'm going to make some cash by selling my front Dana 60 and replacing it with a $100 Dana 44 or 10-bolt because it will be much cheaper and hold up just fine.

And not sure why I didn't think of this in the first place........I can use the extra cash to replace my 38's with 44's! Wow, what a great idea! Just wait until I post this revelation on the General discussion board on here. Then everybody will be getting rid of their Dana 60's because you just don't need them.

Oh yeah, I'll also throw in all of the broken Dana 60 30-spline stubs when I sell my D60.......because of course the Dana 44 will hold up fine.... :shaking: :shaking: :shaking:

Dana 44's will hold up fine to a point. The point is, no one wants to maintain their junk. Gotta pay($$$ and time) to play. Are 44's ridiculous on a D44, yes. Can you wheel hard on a D44 with 36's to 38's, yeah, spend the $$$ on some non-stock shafts and joints, and maintain your stuff, period.

79lt1K20
05-10-2006, 04:35 PM
Dana 44's will hold up fine to a point. The point is, no one wants to maintain their junk. Gotta pay($$$ and time) to play. Are 44's ridiculous on a D44, yes. Can you wheel hard on a D44 with 36's to 38's, yeah, spend the $$$ on some non-stock shafts and joints, and maintain your stuff, period.

youll spend alot more money on shafts, joints, and maintiance than you would on a 60.

shortsub
05-10-2006, 04:59 PM
i have been watching this thread for the past few days without replying but now i CANT take it anymore.


face it 10 bolts/dana 44s suck. they are not intended to be run with (in my opinion) 36" or larger tires. if you do thats the chance you take. my friends and i all have started out with 10 bolts and dana 44s and NO MATTER if you have new parts or not the stuff would break. END OF STORY . thats why we all run 60s now , actually 60s with chromo shafts because 30 splines dont hold up to abuse either.

im sure there are guys out there with 49s and 53s on 1/2 tons that hate me now.

suburban N progress
05-10-2006, 06:09 PM
tee hee...i pondered the thought of 52's on my 1 ton stuff

79lt1K20
05-10-2006, 06:56 PM
tee hee...i pondered the thought of 52's on my 1 ton stuff
the biggest problem there is if you have a 14 bolt its hard to get good enough gearing. 5.13 is as low as you can go...

Wait didnt yukon make like 5.27's? i know theres a new gearset out thats a lil lower...

79lt1K20
05-10-2006, 06:57 PM
whatever it is its still not low enough.

suburban N progress
05-10-2006, 07:05 PM
well for a street queen..this was the set up....dana60/14bolt sm465/208 divorced np200, 5.13 gears and 24'' of lift..it would work...it would look cool...it would break my hubs. :D but ya know the newest craze is hard core street queens!!!

JK5
05-11-2006, 05:01 AM
Well, apparently it must be okay to run 44" Boggers on 14" wide rims on a front Dana 44, because as long as the parts are in good shape it will hold together just fine as I've been told.

.........so I'm going to make some cash by selling my front Dana 60 and replacing it with a $100 Dana 44 or 10-bolt because it will be much cheaper and hold up just fine.

And not sure why I didn't think of this in the first place........I can use the extra cash to replace my 38's with 44's! Wow, what a great idea! Just wait until I post this revelation on the General discussion board on here. Then everybody will be getting rid of their Dana 60's because you just don't need them.

Oh yeah, I'll also throw in all of the broken Dana 60 30-spline stubs when I sell my D60.......because of course the Dana 44 will hold up fine.... :shaking: :shaking: :shaking:

Before we get too frustrated on this subject, I think us east coast guys need to consider a couple things. First of all, wheeling is much different here, compared to out west. Our obsticles have green rocks with clay surrounding them. So...a lite foot will get you nowhere, most of us punch the gas and use a gallon of gas, because tirespin, momentum and hp is what it takes to climb to the top. I use every bit of 350 HP to climb, d44's hate hp....as we know.

American
05-11-2006, 11:43 AM
Why you don't run 39.5's on a d44/10b. This is mud, open diff, blah blah. Tore up the ring gear, both hubs, and the U's... I didn't even look at the pinion, I pulled the axle out and gave it away...

http://offroad-tech.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=30&stc=1

prototype
05-12-2006, 10:51 PM
Hell, I run 44s front and rear in my yj, with lockers. I only run 35 inch tires and i still take extra parts. I have never broken anything, probley thanks to my little 4 banger with about 100 HP. I love my 4 banger. :D :flipoff2:

TAWL_BOY
05-18-2006, 10:54 PM
I would never run large tires (35+) with balljoints. I like my king pin Dana 60. Sure a dana 60 can cost alot. Especially a high pinion, reverse rotation one like I have, but it'll cost less in the long run compared to all the upgrades/replacement parts you'd have on the dana 44. Not to mention bent tie rods, serious fender carnage from the tire doing like the K5 in the picture.
This is all coming from a guy who used to wheel 38.5 TSLs on 1/2 ton IFS(lot of broken ball joints). I know run a 78 Ford Dana 60 with 46/19.5 Baja Claws in the mud and It's holdin up. Once I break a stub I'll upgrade, but It's takin a beatin so far.

78Buford
09-01-2006, 05:49 PM
Dragging up an old post here...I just stumbled across it. I was at this ride where this breakage occurred. I am amazed at the people that kept insisting, "It only broke because it had worn out parts." :laughing:

Brief background on this trail ride: The ride in May happened because a guy stated that he could run this trail with 30" AT's and a rear locker. I disagreed, we bet $200 that I would have to pull him at least 12 times, or he would break. I won the bet before the ride was half complete. At the start of the ride, the Blazer (in the pictures) showed up along with a guy in a nice Suburban on 44's, 14" wide wheels, etc. I talked to him, and he was running a Ford D60 w/ stock stubs & small D-shaft joints. I assumed that the Blazer had a D60 too. We all know what happens when people assume. Mistake on my part. These guys weren't club members, but they followed us. Before the ride started I told a few guys in the club that I predicted D60 stub failure and/or D-shaft U joint failure if they followed me through a few rough spots on this trail. Little did I know the Blazer had a D44......

The first part of the trail is approximately one mile long, and the second portion is approximately 7 miles long. This is the longest trail in our area...if you break in the middle of it, you have your choice of which 3.5 mile section you'd rather deal with. Luckily, as 6.2Blazer said, this vehicle broke on the first obstacle of the day.

I'm in the same club as 6.2Blazer, and another guy we are friends with was there with me as a passenger on the day that this happened. Other guy (Jeep guy...somehow we all get along OK :D ) is rather high strung.

We were leading, and the Blazer was probably 3rd-4th in the group. When he tried the rock ledge & grenaded D44 innards all over the place, I started looking at the front end, and noted, "Chevy's don't have ball joint front axles....holy sheet, that is a D44." One of the best laughs of the summer was watching my passenger (High Strung Dude) run around blurting, "Jesus...what the hell was he thinking........Just because the numbers match....Dana 44 and 44" Bogger, doesn't mean it is a good idea...." That's not funny to read, but if you knew the guy and watched him run around saying this, talking a mile a minute, you'd understand. :D

Anyway, 44" Bogger Blazer guy and 44" Bogger Suburban guy observed to be pretty good dudes and were able to fix their own stuff.

The point of all this: Those who think that a 44" tire can be wheeled on a 1/2ton front axle on any sort of difficult trail, for any significant amount of time is simply wrong.

Roy

lugie_98tj
09-04-2006, 07:49 PM
Thanks Brad (6.2blazer), I thoroughly enjoyed the stupidity that the thread brought out. I had heard the story, but pictures make it SOOO much better.

Gonecheenin
09-05-2006, 12:05 PM
I've run my 3000lb Bluggy pretty damn hard on a locked & alloy'd front dana 44 in various east coast terrain (big rocks, trail mud, hill climbs, gullys, washouts, ETC) turning 38" boggers powered by a 6cyl for about 2 years now,

never broke anything after installing the alloys (ran stock shafts for 4 years, 2 months of which was with a locker after which i broke the stock shafts in 20 min's :D )

Only trouble i've had was crushing some 371 precision u-joint cap bearings from time to time (planning on buying alloy joints in the near future)

I do keep an eye on it regularly and try to replace anything that looks like its aproaching failure which I'm sure helps, but over all that axle has held up fantastically to all my abuse over the years



NOW, all that being said i also realize that I'm skirting VERY close to its breaking point with my setup
A few more pounds, a little more horsepower, or the 39.5's i had on it a few months ago (that was a real wake up call right there) will turn my light, high clearance, durable axle into a complete pile of dog sheet in a very impressive hurry.


You can argue all day long 60-44-60-44-60-44-60-44-60-44-60-44-60-44-60-44-60-44-60-44-60-44-60-44

But the end truth is a light ass , 4cyl powered, 2500lb buggy on 35's with a 60 front & 14 bolt rear is retardedly overbuilt
Although durable that thing would be a pile on the trail (least in the east coast)

And as has been said, d44 with 44" boggers on a 5500lb V-8 rig???????????????????????????????????

Riiiiiiiiiiight :shaking:


A balanced rig is essential to success on the trails, no matter what you want to build theres a good combo out there that will work together greatfor what you do with it.

bbwag
09-05-2006, 12:38 PM
d44 and 44' boggers= KA BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! unless its a pot hole only 4x4.

RedneckConvert
09-05-2006, 12:44 PM
well I'd hope so, I don't know where you'd be able to get some 44 footers :flipoff2:

4wDakota
09-06-2006, 07:17 AM
http://www.lockitupoffroad.net/Flexotapics/slampic10bolt.jpg

GAredClaYJ
09-06-2006, 07:38 AM
http://www.lockitupoffroad.net/Flexotapics/slampic10bolt.jpg

Is that the new TTB that chevrolet came out with? How's that flex in the rocks?:flipoff2: That is awesome, is there a video or more pics that came w/ that one?

mj
09-06-2006, 08:24 AM
the tierod is bent in that photo
if it had held up the dif would be fine

bbwag
09-06-2006, 09:26 AM
i love the carnage, more carnage please.

to evenmadderdawg, can you post pics of your d30, 49 inch iroked jeep?

you say you tow, wheel, and mud with this rig? what do you tow?

79chevy39.5's
09-06-2006, 09:44 PM
i ran a 10 bolt and 39.5 tsl's, busted my spiders (open) put new ones in welded them up and took it wheelin, stayed together but i didnt trust it, the dana 60 was outta my price range so i picked up a set of rockwells for 800 bucks now thats a score