: 1/4 elliptical suspenion(pics)


desertCJ
04-12-2002, 09:29 PM
Well it's not quite done yet but it's gettin there. In these pics the control arms are emt to get an idea of how long they needed to be and to figure out the mounting positions. Here's the link...

http://community.webshots.com/album/31954762adlpTgiObR

Let me know what you think:rasta:

steelman
04-12-2002, 10:05 PM
looken good !

but dude, allmost done means bolting the tires back on, or installing the shocks, or putting gas in the tank......

get that thing on the rocks and post some pic's
steelman

desertCJ
04-12-2002, 10:10 PM
I never said it was almost done....I said it was gettin there:flipoff2: but ya it has a little to go still

RadioFlyer91
04-12-2002, 10:11 PM
the set up looks nice. I have one question maybe its just the angle of the pic but is there going to be room for the rear drive shaft to move down when the sxle drops with this brace in the way?

http://www.tarleton.edu/students/jwillms/rearbrace.jpg
Maybe it just me.
Justin<><

desertCJ
04-12-2002, 10:16 PM
Good eye. I put the crossmember in that place so that when I put a t-18 in the x-fercase yoke will be right over it. For now I had to put a spacer between the skidplate and the tranny mount.Only 1/2" but it's enough and I'm going to have to run a limiting strap anyways.;)

fcfred
04-12-2002, 11:23 PM
is the link crossmember bolt in?
are you going to have to remove it in order to remove the t-case?
I'm build mine and am at that point. but am wondering about how I'm going to have enough room to remove my t-case should I ever have to.

desertCJ
04-12-2002, 11:43 PM
Yes I made it bolt on. That was a lot more work than just welding it in, but was deffinetely worth it:D It will be way easier to remove the tranny/x-fer case. I can't wait to try it at high desert roundup:D

broncorob
04-15-2002, 10:29 AM
That is badass. Very clean and well engineered.
Which heim joint spacers are those?

desertCJ
04-15-2002, 10:37 AM
Thanks man. I can't take credit for most of the engineering as almost everything I saw somewhere else and changed it to fit on my jeep. The bolt-in crossmember turned out pretty good though for something that I came up with myself:D The hiem spacers are 5/8"x5/8" and I got them from Avalanche engineering.

Fab on:rasta:

Bgcj5
04-15-2002, 01:17 PM
Looks good man. Very clean install.

INEBRIATED
04-15-2002, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by broncorob
That is badass. Very clean and well engineered.
Which heim joint spacers are those?

YOUR A FUCKING IDIOT

that is the shittiest design i have ever seen in my life. You can people like you still be alive, i thought people that stupid died off due to natural selection long ago. Damn, you must have escaped somehow, but once you drive around in that thing youll surley end up where you belong, DEAD. That shit will break and you will drive off a cliff and i will laugh. HAHA!

Brad
04-15-2002, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by INEBRIATED


YOUR A FUCKING IDIOT

..........worthless shit u write

once again i go back to your sig represents YOU:rolleyes:

INEBRIATED
04-16-2002, 12:04 AM
Did your mom build that?

desertCJ
04-16-2002, 12:07 AM
The funny part is that I never thought anyone would be stupid enough to accuse me of keeping teh EMT for my real control arms....are there really people that think I'm that stupid:flipoff2: Of course I'm not you inebriated fool:mad2: They final control arms will be installed once I get my DOM tubing and tubiing adapters from Avalanche engineering. The DOM will be 1.5" with a .25 wall thikness.....is that OK with you Inebriated:rasta:

INEBRIATED
04-16-2002, 12:21 AM
Is your mom going to put the DOM tubing together for you also?:confused: :beer: :rasta:

desertCJ
04-16-2002, 12:25 AM
Ya actually she is.....and she can weld better than you:rolleyes:

SURE THING FOKER!:rasta:

INEBRIATED
04-16-2002, 12:31 AM
Not after a twelver!

camo
04-16-2002, 11:41 AM
your cross member WILL bend. you need to have some gussets

colech
04-16-2002, 12:17 PM
Hey desertCJ, I think it's cool your posting! INEBRIATED is a jack ass--end of story. What the board is for is constructive advice such as camo's.

EasyXJ
04-16-2002, 12:51 PM
camo, do you have a side shot of that upper(frame end) mount? and what vehicle was that setup going in? I'm going to be building my 1/4 ellip in the next few months and I'm gathering all the info and pics I can.

Easy

LOPPY
04-16-2002, 12:55 PM
INEBRIATED
Wheeler

Registered: Jan 2002
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Not after a twelver!


__________________
YOU ARE A FAWKING IDIOT

YOU THINK TOO HARD

Eric
04-16-2002, 01:05 PM
Hey Camo,

Where do your upper and lower links converge to form your IC?

A side shot of your links would be cool.

bigdude
04-16-2002, 01:06 PM
Who is this Jackass

Go read his other posts, I read some of them, all just like this.

I think he is a friend of that faggot "froadilicious"

Air Ride
04-16-2002, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by camo
your cross member WILL bend. you need to have some gussets

Exactly what I was going to say. That design looks just like Dtoys and his bent on the first outing. other than that it worked great though.

foley
04-16-2002, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by camo
your cross member WILL bend. you need to have some gussets

I would have thought the bending strength of that 1/4 wall box tube would be up to the task, but it would not be hard to gusset.

Just run some diagonal links back to the crossmember from the angle iron legs that bolt to the frame in this pic:

http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v5/5/48/66/31954866kIMtWhWzvf_ph.jpg

It should be able to go around the T case and still provide support.

desertCJ
04-16-2002, 01:44 PM
Thanks for the input guys. That is the reason I put this on here in the first place.... to see if I had overlooked anything:rasta: I didnt' think that the 1/4" box would bend, but I know you guys have experience with this stuff. Besides it's not gonna kill me to add a few gussets:D Later

McSoo
04-16-2002, 02:20 PM
Looks awesome. Yeah, gussets would be good..

Is Inebriated an Xterd owner? HAHAHA

RadioFlyer91
04-16-2002, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by foley


I would have thought the bending strength of that 1/4 wall box tube would be up to the task, but it would not be hard to gusset.

Just run some diagonal links back to the crossmember from the angle iron legs that bolt to the frame in this pic:

http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v5/5/48/66/31954866kIMtWhWzvf_ph.jpg

It should be able to go around the T case and still provide support.

Well I am more of a visual learner so what yall are trying to tell him he needs to add some thing like this to his crossmember right?
http://www.tarleton.edu/students/jwillms/cj-link1.jpg

Justin<><

Ok Ill 4th the idea that Inebriated is a JACKASS

desertCJ
04-16-2002, 03:09 PM
Ya, I think that's what they're sayin;)

PIG
04-16-2002, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Eric
Hey Camo,

Where do your upper and lower links converge to form your IC?

A side shot of your links would be cool.

The IC would at the intersection of the lowers. The roll axis would be parallel to the uppers in the side view but would intersect through the IC. Hope that helps Eric.

Eric
04-17-2002, 07:16 AM
Thanks.

I was hoping to get a side view picture of Camo's setup.

zags
04-17-2002, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by Pig


The IC would at the intersection of the lowers. The roll axis would be parallel to the uppers in the side view but would intersect through the IC. Hope that helps Eric.

Wouldn't the IC be where the planes of the upper and lower links intersect? And if so, what is a good spot in relation to the CG?

Eric
04-17-2002, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by zags


Wouldn't the IC be where the planes of the upper and lower links intersect? And if so, what is a good spot in relation to the CG?

I have not set one up yet, but from what others have said here, you want the IC to be at the COG.

PIG
04-17-2002, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by zags


Wouldn't the IC be where the planes of the upper and lower links intersect? And if so, what is a good spot in relation to the CG?

Zaggs, yes you are correct. I seem to have had a brain fart yesterday. The point I described was the lower laterial rstraint point. And yes, in general you want to have the IC @ the COG.

zags
04-17-2002, 10:04 AM
I have no practical experience with rock buggys, only drag and circle track cars. But I was thinking that an IC that was low and forward in the chassis would help reduce excessive anti-squat, and help load transfer to the front tires for climbing ledges, any thoughts?

mudlite
04-17-2002, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by INEBRIATED


YOUR A FUCKING IDIOT

that is the shittiest design i have ever seen in my life. You can people like you still be alive, i thought people that stupid died off due to natural selection long ago. Damn, you must have escaped somehow, but once you drive around in that thing youll surley end up where you belong, DEAD. That shit will break and you will drive off a cliff and i will laugh. HAHA!

I can't believe this fucking moron is still on this board?:mad:
Where is the moderator when you need one?:mad3:
Lets ban his ass, IP, ..........what ever it takes. Comments like this , and others he has made in other threads. He has no respect for this board or its members.

:mad3: :mad3: :mad3: :mad3: :mad3:

desertCJ
04-17-2002, 12:02 PM
I"m cool with that....talk about a waste of space!Ban that:rainbow:

:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: