what would be the strongest dana44 front axal?? and what would it be out of?:question:

there all the damn same, except for the hubs! one out of a full width will have stronger hubs eveything else is the same.

Originally posted by rockbound
there all the damn same, except for the hubs! one out of a full width will have stronger hubs eveything else is the same. http://www.corral.net/forums/images/smilies/lol.gif Flat out wrong. http://www.corral.net/forums/images/smilies/lol.gif

I've split open a 79 Bronco to shorten, it had 1/4" center tube! Also split open a 75 Ford PU housing it had 1/2" tube.

The outer knuckles on a 3/4 ton have more 'beef' to them. WHat are you looking for? Just info?

The International 3/4 ton 44 I used is beefy, I.E. has the 1/2 tubes. Wish my rear 60 had 1/2" tubes. Most of the 3/4 ton rigs will have the heavy 44. That's what your going to need to look for.

Joe

I would have to say a 77 3/4 ton chevy. They have a stronger axle tubes and housing than the 1/2 ton stuff, 6 studs holding on the spindle (not the 5 that ford used), larger inner bearings (that make the spindle thicher), and none of that external hub crap....I think all that went from 76-78 but I'm not sure.

I would have to say the 44 I would most like to get ahold of is the HP ford and put HD outers on it...

76-78 chevy or wagoneer. Has 1/2" tubes, discs, flat top knuckles, internal hubs, 6 bolt spindles, bigger bearings, 1 1/8" solid tie rod etc...

tube this tube that, knuckle this knuckle that, all the 44's have at biggest 297 u-joint this is the only thing on any of these 44's you guys are talking about that will break!!

they are all the same in strength!!

Originally posted by rockbound
tube this tube that, knuckle this knuckle that, all the 44's have at biggest 297 u-joint this is the only thing on any of these 44's you guys are talking about that will break!!

they are all the same in strength!!

I give you that, however, with the advent of the CTM joint.. perhaps we should start looking at what will break next?

Originally posted by big78bronco


I give you that, however, with the advent of the CTM joint.. perhaps we should start looking at what will break next?

ring and pinion and those are all the same with all those 44's as well!

Originally posted by rockbound


ring and pinion and those are all the same with all those 44's as well!

What about RC. Considerably stronger than SC. I think this is a very misleading statement...:p

on my rear 44 i have blown spiders,broken axles,and squished the tubes on the hosuing so that the pinion pointed up.

i have beat the piss out of my front 44(77 widetrac chero) and so far no prollems from it at all. now its welded,so i look to start breaking u joints,axleshafts,or pinions.

only thing id say is avoid scout axles cause the caster is 0* from the factory. we used a NT wag 44 to spring over a friends scout ii,and it drives and tows ALOT better.

Originally posted by Triaged
I would have to say a 77 3/4 ton chevy. They have a stronger axle tubes and housing than the 1/2 ton stuff, 6 studs holding on the spindle (not the 5 that ford used), larger inner bearings (that make the spindle thicher), and none of that external hub crap....I think all that went from 76-78 but I'm not sure.

IH uses 8 bolts on the spindle!:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

what year ford HP44 thicker tubes AND welded on C mounts not the cast ones? does it exist?

Originally posted by 44Runner


What about RC. Considerably stronger than SC. I think this is a very misleading statement...:p

depends on if you are putting it in the front or the back, yes in the front it would be stronger, in the back no it wouldn't it would be weaker :p

also it would depend on what gear ratio you are going to ues, if you use a low gear such as a 488, or lower your pinion is going to be tiny, i don't care if it sc or rc!

peej, what size tires are you going to be running?

Originally posted by rockbound


depends on if you are putting it in the front or the back, yes in the front it would be stronger, in the back no it wouldn't it would be weaker :p

Yikes! A 44 front in the rear?? That would have to be a seriously light weight buggy. I am pretty sure I have never seen anyone try this setup. I would think it would break all the time. You got any info on anyone running it? A rear with 5-297x series joints just doesn't seem able to hack much, even with CTMs and warns I just don't see that working well....

Originally posted by 44Runner


Yikes! A 44 front in the rear?? That would have to be a seriously light weight buggy. I am pretty sure I have never seen anyone try this setup. I would think it would break all the time. You got any info on anyone running it? A rear with 5-297x series joints just doesn't seem able to hack much, even with CTMs and warns I just don't see that working well....



Bet it wouldn't break much more often than in the front.. seen a few front axles run in the rear for rear steer u didn't think could take the abuse.. but they do.. and remember now it's turning on the drive side of the gears.. so u'll just break some uee's and stuff just like it would in the front.. hell put it in a pickup and now it's not even supporting any weight.. :D

p.s. a hp44 i wouldn't want in the rear.. i'm talkin standard housings..

Originally posted by skyjackedtoy

seen a few front axles run in the rear for rear steer u didn't think could take the abuse.. but they do..

Yeah, me too, but they are always 60s... King pins and huge joints are much better suited to be in the rear. You have to consider climbing weight transfer....

i betcha a front 44 in the rear is stornger than a rear 44 in the rear :)

i have allready destroyed 1 rear 44 housing with my 6 cyl and 38" tires. the front axle is at least full floating,and the housing is definately beefier than the rear housing. i havent really had any trouble with my front 44 YET,but in my case i dont think it has to work early as hard as the rear. if i put my front inthe rear,im sure id be breaking u joints,axles and spider gears,but i betcha the housing would still be just fine. :cool:

Originally posted by peeJ
what would be the strongest dana44 front axleThe one you buy used from some guy who doesn't know what "1 ton" means. ;)

"Why does this Dana 44 have kingpins?" :confused:

Originally posted by Dr. Evil
The one you buy used from some guy who doesn't know what "1 ton" means. ;)

"Why does this Dana 44 have kingpins?" :confused:

Cause it's for a 70 Ford that some one put disc brakes one.

You know what I meant, bastid. :flipoff2: