Continuing saga of AZDUDES 79 1 ton conversion!

[AZFJ]

Well it turns out that the Holley Truck Avenger carb..along with being a big pile of steamy dung..is also not enough carb for this motor..if you dont remember check out this thread http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=444518...Anyway..Justin is going to try a Demon carb or something with offroad floats..he can chime in on this one.....All I have for you now is is these NEW pics of the paint job he had done on it..Olive drab with some bad-ass skulls..Check out the pics!!!

[AZFJ]

Saweeeeeettt!

[AZFJ]

some more!

[AZFJ]

Fenders were cut back and filled in..how's this for some bonus points!

[AZFJ]

last pic!....

[theydontstop]

Nice rig, olive drab is definitely the color to go with, just add the military stars now:D I chose the flat olive drab primer, easy to touch up on my pile. I remember when my front fenders used to look like that. They are now cut and tires still rub. I have the same suspension and tire size, and if he wheels it hard with lots of flex, those tires are gonna bend some stuff and those skulls won't look so good, just FYI.

[AZDude]

I am still considering the military stars. I'm sure after a few trails the skulls and the fenders won't look so good, but that's what they make touch up paint for:D
As azfj was saying I am now trying a Speed Demon 750 carb with off road floats.
Hopefully this will solve my engine gremlin:smokin:

[avainaffairs]

I dunno man, I didnt read the other thread and I am sure you have herd this before but the Holly truck off road carb was the best mod I could make to my naturally asperated motor. I have a 454 and right now I have the 670 on it. I have never been able to make it choke out or bog down. On time I was coming down off a rock. I almost rolled over forward. The carb didnt stall but I could hear it kinda choken but it kept the motor running, I was lucky it did though cause if I wasnt able to gun it to get the front tires turing I probably would have endowded it.
My truck is mostly a trail rig with moderate rock abilities. I have never tried to go straight up a wall. I know my carb wouldnt do it but for every hill I have tried, the carb has never let me down.

[AZDude]

You should read the other thread.

[Easy Rick]

Looks good Dude!! But wheres that rear bumper? Did you have to sell it to pay for your next carb?:flipoff2: I really hope that new carb fixes it, but I just don't know??? We will miss ya in Moab this next week, if you want you could always borrow my offroad recovery tow rig!!:D :laughing: And go with us anyway......

Later,
Easy Rick.

[AZDude]

I wouldn't mind borrowing the recovery vehicle, but i'm not sure my moose kill'n bumper would fit on it:D and I just can't go to Moab without hunting me some moose:laughing: :laughing:

[Easy Rick]

Well you could always just go Mouse hunting with it instead!!:grinpimp: Just bring your spork!!:D

Later
Easy Rick.

[LeviGarrett76]

i would suggest a quadrajet.....your not going to beat it off road unless you do propane or efi....you can modify the 75 and later 795 cfm versions to 850 fairly easily, and you cant beat the throttle response the small primaries give you when crawlin

[riptide]

Nice paint job soldier boy. Now you and AZFJ can be in cognito while doin that brokeback spoonin thing.:D Ricks droolin about now:eek:

[Easy Rick]

i would suggest a quadrajet.....your not going to beat it off road unless you do propane or efi....you can modify the 75 and later 795 cfm versions to 850 fairly easily, and you cant beat the throttle response the small primaries give you when crawlin

Hey J don't listen to this dude... it maybe easy to modify it and make it work all perfect and everything. But you know how hard it would be to get it chromed???:flipoff2: Plus it would probably turn out to be too inexpensive as well.:laughing: :laughing:

Easy.

[Randomquikfingrs]

I've never seen a bobbed chevy that looked good until now. Finally, now I can get started on mine!

Any tips?

[theydontstop]

Sawzall should be your best friend, it'll do the trick:cool2:

[AZDude]

you'll have to ask "Easy" on the tips for bed bobbing...I beleive it was a sawzall and torch.

[AZDude]

i would suggest a quadrajet.....your not going to beat it off road unless you do propane or efi....you can modify the 75 and later 795 cfm versions to 850 fairly easily, and you cant beat the throttle response the small primaries give you when crawlin
Hmmmm...maybe I should call the tech back at Barry Grant and tell him he's full of shit:shaking:

[AZFJ]

Hmmmm...maybe I should call the tech back at Barry Grant and tell him he's full of shit:shaking:

...uh..well..he is trying to sell you a Barry Grant carb...And didnt the Holley tech say the same thing about their carb??...conflict of interest???

[LeviGarrett76]

Hmmmm...maybe I should call the tech back at Barry Grant and tell him he's full of shit:shaking:

you think im full of shit, haha:smokin:

try and run a demon carb on the trails:shaking:

maybe you should try running a quadrajet on the trails before you go popping off at the mouth


unless you just want performance on flat ground



edit: i wanna know what this barry grant tech told you...

[Easy Rick]

you think im full of shit, haha:smokin:

try and run a demon carb on the trails:shaking:

maybe you should try running a quadrajet on the trails before you go popping off at the mouth


unless you just want performance on flat ground



edit: i wanna know what this barry grant tech told you...

I was not there but I can still qoute the conversation, verbatum; (j)"Yea so my truck doesn't run right" (tech)"Oh thats cause you don't have one of my most expensive carbs!" (J)"well i thought that maybe..." (tech)"Sir! Sir! Sir, if I can just tell you one thing. First your hair looks really nice, and smells good to! And second you need one of my most exspensive carbs for that application cause they are sooooo cool!" (j) "so you really like what I've done w/ my hair? Fawk yeah I'll take one of those carbs!!!":eek:

Like I said I wasn't there but I am pretty sure that is word for word, minus the credit card numbers of course.:laughing: :laughing:


Just kidding! in case my joke was mistaken by any.

I second the Rottenchester quadrajunk. I have seen them work off road fairly well, and plus when that doesn't fix it you will not have lost your kids college fund to find out!:smokin: Have you ever considered a TOYOTA 4 banger on propane?? Just throwing out some options buddy.

Later,
Easy Rick.

[AZDude]

First of all...I've had two truck avenger 770 carbs on my truck. The first I fucked with for 6months now trying to tune to run right on my motor to comr to find out that 3 out of 4 of the check weights in the metering block were installed upside down. Which Holley was very reluctant to admit. Then I was told they would be sending me a brand new one and I got some hunk of shit catb in the mail and they said it was modified to the specs of my motor. My truck will not even idle with it on there. I am not saying your full of shit , but I don't think you understand that you can't just bolt a standard quadrajet or any truck carburetor on a 510 cubic inch motor and expect it to run right. I did not build the motor with the intentions of rock crawling with the truck so at this point I am trying to find the right carburetor to get this motor to perform the way it is supposed to. The Barry Grant tech told me that the check metering system in the avenger carb is making it very difficult to deliver the the proper amount of fuel to this much of a motor. He didn't say the Holley carb is bad he just said it is not the right set up for me.

[AZDude]

Just an "FYI" for everyone the truck avenger carb was more expensive than the speed demon.

[AZDude]

Hmmmm...maybe I should call the tech back at Barry Grant and tell him he's full of shit:shaking:
I did not mean to come off as an asshole it's just been a long ,expensive, and frustrating battle.

[Easy Rick]

Fine. I see your sense of humor has diminished, so I'll quit comin wit da Jokes!:p Best of luck squashing your gremlin.

Later,
Easy Rick.

[AZDude]

hey I still have a sense of humor , but it's gonna be alot bigger when I'm doing 4wheel burnouts up a rock face. I'm hoping that will be the case after today:)

[theydontstop]

I too had problems with those Holley POS Truck Avengers. I just rebuilt my motor, took the quadrajet off that I had set up just right and said, maybe it's time is over. Got a Junk Avenger and messed with it for 2-3 months, and it would barely run on the street, off-road was a no-no, it would just die the second it got on angle. Sent that POS back, went in the garage and slapped the old "Quadrajunk"(as everyone says) back on and haven't had a problem. On really big angles it dies, but it's a carb. Not sure if you can make a quadrajet run on that big of a motor, but if you can, that's what my vote would be. The new Edelbrock Quadrajets I found to be POS's too.

[AZDude]

I too had problems with those Holley POS Truck Avengers. I just rebuilt my motor, took the quadrajet off that I had set up just right and said, maybe it's time is over. Got a Junk Avenger and messed with it for 2-3 months, and it would barely run on the street, off-road was a no-no, it would just die the second it got on angle. Sent that POS back, went in the garage and slapped the old "Quadrajunk"(as everyone says) back on and haven't had a problem. On really big angles it dies, but it's a carb. Not sure if you can make a quadrajet run on that big of a motor, but if you can, that's what my vote would be. The new Edelbrock Quadrajets I found to be POS's too.
Thanks for the input. I guess I will just try some different carbs until I find the right one for my application. I had a Speed Demon carb on the truck when I first got it when it was a stock 454 and it actually did pretty well off road. Then i heard about the Avenger and decided to give it a shot but i'm not impressed at all with it or the Holley tech and customer service I received. I have never had experience with a quadrajet, but it may be another option. Depending on what this demon carb does for me.

[LeviGarrett76]

I am not saying your full of shit , but I don't think you understand that you can't just bolt a standard quadrajet or any truck carburetor on a 510 cubic inch motor and expect it to run right. I did not build the motor with the intentions of rock crawling with the truck so at this point I am trying to find the right carburetor to get this motor to perform the way it is supposed to. The Barry Grant tech told me that the check metering system in the avenger carb is making it very difficult to deliver the the proper amount of fuel to this much of a motor. He didn't say the Holley carb is bad he just said it is not the right set up for me.

i know you cant just bolt on any carb to a motor with low vaccum and big cubes(im assuming its got a decent cam), most any carb you throw on there your going to have to do some work to make it run to its full potential

i run a warm cam in my built 472 and i had a holley, junked it for my current q-jet, it took a decent bit of tweaking and some slight drilling with #'ed drill bits, but it runs absolutely awesome off road as well as on the street

i assumed you would be using the truck since you had the skidplates, sliders etc...

im not gonna beg you to run a q-jet, i was just trying to help

btw if you dont want to modify one, before edelbrock stopped producing q-jets, they made a pimped out version that was modded to do 850cfm, im sure you could pick up a used one or some stores may sitll have one in stock

im pretty sure thats the carb white night ran before they went to fuel injection

[79chevy39.5's]

i think you should just run like 3 carbs in all different planes that way you can run any angle and still have enough gas pumpin:flipoff2:

[Easy Rick]

i think you should just run like 3 carbs in all different planes that way you can run any angle and still have enough gas pumpin:flipoff2:

Oh damn am I blushing???? Cause I always blush in the presence of Genius!!:flipoff2:

You had better patent your idea before I do,
Easy Rick.

[AZDude]

Well I got the truck running better than ever. Although some of the problem was the carburetor the main problem was my ignition. For some reason every distributor I have bolted in the truck has had very little spark and ran decent at first and then would crap out after a few weeks. I decided to totally do away with the HEI alltogether and go with a MSD billet distributor, 6AL box, and Blaster II coil. We bolted on the 750 Demon Carb and did some tuning. After some fine tuning we got the beast to lay down about a 30 foot burnout.

[AZDude]

I should have the truck back from the final stages of paint and on the trail this weekend. I'll be posting some new pics shortly:grinpimp: