Sammi case behind a TX10

[hoohaa]

Don't know if this is a repost, but here we go.

Let's hear about it. Pro's, con's, how to do it, etc.

Is this a mod for a trail rig only, or does anyone run it on the street?

I had my interest picqued when I took a peak at the 720 on rockwells thread. Here's a couple pics from that thread of the sammi case back there:

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/289195/fullsize/DSC04147.JPG

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/289194/fullsize/DSC04146.JPG

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/289202/fullsize/DSC04157.JPG

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/289204/fullsize/DSC04158.JPG

Do the flanges have the same bolt pattern? How convenient if they do. Also, is that case flipped? Is this a bad idea, if so, why?

[domba420]

that won't last...samurai cases are made out of aluminum and they're not the strongest, hardmounting it like that will destroy the case. i'm a zuk guy, not a nissan guy so i dunno what drivetrain is in front of the case...but those hardmounts almost definitely tear out

[nissannut]

That mounting cannot be good for anything. Dont know about zuki flanges but if there flat Like Nissans they could be drilled to match.

[hoohaa]

Ok, obviously those mounts are not the best, but let's think beyond that, what if they were designed properly, using rubber or poly bushings. Would the sammi case be a good idea?

My rig is probably around 4200 pounds, and I'm planning on swapping to a solid axle soon. Let's say I choose 35 or 37" tires, would the sammi case stand up to it do you think?

Also, speaking of mounting, maybe someone could post pics of what the mounts are supposed to look like.

[onlyonedr]

My rig is probably around 4200 pounds, and I'm planning on swapping to a solid axle soon. Let's say I choose 35 or 37" tires, would the sammi case stand up to it do you think?

Seriously Bryan? A truck with more than double the horsepower, tires 10" larger in diameter than a stock sami, doubling the input torque by coupling it to your existing T-case, all on a rig that weighs in at at least half a ton more than a sami (before you load it up)?

Get an NP205, a T100L, a Toyota/OTT case, or Calmini gears.

[domba420]

yeah i'd try some other direction if i were you, samurai cases are really tough...in samurais. but thats behind a 1.3 that only puts out 64 hp stock and around the same torque. i dunno what motor you'd be using or how much hp, but it's just a little tiny aluminum case. i say go for something that was built for a truck your size. unless your a good fabricator and can do it all without much trouble(meaning you won't be heartbroken when it explodes in a ball of fire). theres lots of gear ratios available for a samurai case, and if it is setup in a way that it's not terribly overworked, they are really durable.

[hoohaa]

Seriously Bryan? A truck with more than double the horsepower, tires 10" larger in diameter than a stock sami, doubling the input torque by coupling it to your existing T-case, all on a rig that weighs in at at least half a ton more than a sami (before you load it up)?

Get an NP205, a T100L, a Toyota/OTT case, or Calmini gears.

Sure, I don't see the problem with discussing it. Isn't that what these boards are all about?

I don't know that I would toss the idea on the basis of the stock sammi weight either. Who knows, maybe they really built these things strong. There are lots of stock parts that are way way stronger than needed for their application, I don't see why this couldn't be another "diamond in the rough".

Perhaps the guy who is actually doing it will post up and let us know how it went. Or someone else who has done it could tell us why it worked or failed.

One of the benefits to a sammi case over a np231 or other case is that it is bolt on. If it blows up just carry the longer rear driveshaft and you can remove the sammi case and get home.

The np231 dual cases I've seen involve irreversible modifications to the tx10, if one goes, both go.

[domba420]

the samurai i'm currently building will weigh about 3,000 lbs. with people, gear, and everything and i'll be running a nissan case to a samurai case with 4.16:1 gears. i'm confident that it will hold up or i wouldn't be using it. i've also seen lots of guys running a suzuki 1.6 16v with low tcase gears and 35-37" tires on rigs that are heavier than mine without problems.

[comeonstart]

I thought we already went over this on N4W, as stout as the sammy case is in a sammy, you gotta think much more weight and more than double the power.

[hoohaa]

I thought we already went over this on N4W, as stout as the sammy case is in a sammy, you gotta think much more weight and more than double the power.

Does this look like N4W to you? :laughing:

These are good points. I really wish we could fast forward in time and see what happens to the 720 on rocks with the sammy case.

[my_samurai]

Well..i glad that someone has taking the time to post this.. i have not had any problems with the sammi case so far. i have changed the mounts to poly bushing, so that fixed one problem... the linkage is another now. As far as the case goes its made of the same cast metal that a lot of NP and BW cases are made of...i have also seen a sammi case hold the power of a small block 350 on 38's. Also the flanges where not a problem ..i small milling machine took care of that. running a breather hose off the case stops any leaking.. no vibes @ 35mph and holds up very well. all info and comments are welcomed!

[hoohaa]

One of the things I really like about this idea is the possibility of bolting the extra tcase on before hitting a trail, then removing it to drive home. If it explodes buy another one. :laughing: