Hey Dan, I need another set of brackets.My buddy Moe saw mine and just had to have them. So send me another set. Thanks.

Thanks for the repeat business.....!

We are bringing out a whole mess of new brackets in just a few, watch for them! And of course they will be bent, we can bend.....:eek:

I have a set of your brackets for my C&C 14FF....which as you know uses the Dually hubs. They won't work from what I can see. Are you bringing something new to the table in this regard? Can I exchange them? Thanks

I have a set of your brackets for my C&C 14FF....which as you know uses the Dually hubs. They won't work from what I can see. Are you bringing something new to the table in this regard? Can I exchange them? Thanks


We have discovered that the C&C crowd like good brakes too, we have been testing them and its just a release from the Insurance company from here.....

BTW, we will exchange or refund anything in unused condition anytime and Guarantee against just about anything less taking a cutting torch to them!

OK.....Kewl! Let me know when you get the release from the insurers (seriously?)......after they figure out that they are indestructible....and I will exchange these with you....unused package open (for the drool factor).

OK.....Kewl! Let me know when you get the release from the insurers (seriously?)......after they figure out that they are indestructible....and I will exchange these with you....unused package open (for the drool factor).

I don't think many, if any of my competitors carry any product liability insurance but my carrier was very hard to find and they require a testing period before I can release any new brake brackets, measurement of wear on pads and checking torque on bolts mailny but done by their chosen mechanic at his price:( over 6 weeks time.....PITA!

The Ford D70 Disc Brake Bracket! All of $50......way too pricey huh? Not!

These are for the D70 that came under Ford's, Yes, it matters who the different OEM manufacturer was! All of the big 3 used the D70 at one time or another and all had different mounting flanges, different offsets, & a couple of different tube diameters were used too......Don't let someone tell you different!

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/images/D%2070%20FORD%20DISC%20BRACKET.jpg


Oh, BTW, if you didn't notice, they are bent, must have dropped them or something........:D

OK.....Kewl! Let me know when you get the release from the insurers (seriously?)......after they figure out that they are indestructible....and I will exchange these with you....unused package open (for the drool factor).

X2, I got 2 buddies that need C&C 14 bolt brackets.

X2, I got 2 buddies that need C&C 14 bolt brackets.


Should be just a couple of more weeks on them.....

That is, unless you buy the crap about 3/8" plate bent at a 30 degree angle being weak:eek: ......If you believe that garbage you might as well hide under your bed for the rest of your life!:laughing:

Ordered my 14 bolt caliper brackets on Saturday, shipped out monday, got them in the mail today. Really fast. Thanks Dan!

I've said it before, we try! And speaking of that, we have 2 more sets until next Wenesday, another 200 pair Wenesday, just 2 today!

All orders from now til Wenesday will ship Thursday, sorry, they go fast when they are what you want! We seem to sell 4-5 sets of these daily, keep those orders coming and forget spacers, spacers of ANY kind will always look Ghetto don't you think? And its kind of ironic that every company with something better never runs out, we actually sell some of these, over 100 pair this month alone.....I just checked, 131 pair in April!

And lookout for my shadow, Blah, Blah, Blah, welcome back Little Richard!

I found 10 pair on the wrong shelf last night so no waiting!

I found 10 pair on the wrong shelf last night so no waiting!

Sorry little richard.....:(

Strength, Quality, Price!


And now they will come including the 4 bolts required! We are in Northern California and never see much rust, however I took down a C&C D70 this weekend and I agree with my competitor now, I think this one must have been on the truck spreading the salt!

Cal and Southwest trucks just don't see the salt in the winter and I really had no idea of how bad your northern rigs can get.......Now I do!

Strength, Quality, Price!


And now they will come including the 4 bolts required! We are in Northern California and never see much rust, however I took down a C&C D70 this weekend and I agree with my competitor now, I think this one must have been on the truck spreading the salt!

Cal and Southwest trucks just don't see the salt in the winter and I really had no idea of how bad your northern rigs can get.......Now I do!


Got a nice new 3500lb pressure washer out of the deal! it just peels the rust away:D

they got here a day early!

I hope everyone is ready for this weekend.....

I did not want to recount them so lets just say we have a little more than 136 pair in stock!

Real deal 14 Bolt brackets!

Hows that for keeping you up to date, hope everyone had a good weekend with minimal breakage.....

I think you all might just be a little hard on equipment, or perhaps this time you just decided it was time to build it strong enough to last:smokin:

Just checking in.......do you have those C&C 14FF brackets yet?

Just checking in.......do you have those C&C 14FF brackets yet?


They are being produced right now, should be 1 -2 weeks before we add them to the site.

They are being produced right now, should be 1 -2 weeks before we add them to the site.

Thanks.....as always.....a pleasure to deal with.

Any luck with my order? I has been 9 days now and I have got nothing as a return of my emails or calls.

Order #2482

Any luck with my order? I has been 9 days now and I have got nothing as a return of my emails or calls.

Order #2482

Delivery to Canada is a little slower than the states but good news there, the USPS is adding Canada to the flat rate box system and the cost will be only $23 to Canada for up to 20lbs......starts the 14th of this month.....

Alright cool, So I can expect the stuff to ship out the 14th?

Thank you Dan,
Jason.

Alright cool, So I can expect the stuff to ship out the 14th?

Thank you Dan,
Jason.


Future orders to Canada will be cheaper for everyone! There should be better tracking after it crosses the border too....

Thank you for clearing that up, you can expect future orders from me.
Jason.

Thats right, USPS Flat Rate Boxes are going to be extended to include Canada, that is going to bring down the cost of shipping quite a bit for our Canadian friends, heh?

200 more on the way.......these are tough to keep in stock!

Strength, Quality, Value.......and BENT!

200 more on the way.......these are tough to keep in stock!

Strength, Quality, Value.......and BENT!

I would think they might be priced a little high? What do you think? Strength and Quality sure, but price always rears its ugly head......Well, we found the obvious answer to strength, Quality, & Value, that answer is bending the brackets, bending costs less and therefore costs you less, make sense now?

And they are in stock too........!

Without any funky spacers they fit in a USPS flat rate envelope, not a box & the envelopes cost you less!

BTW, even if you buy someone elses' brackets you can thank us for driving down rhe prices! We do not believe in pricing things at "whatever the people will pay", we believe in FAIR PRICES and all of our prroducts reflect that commitment to FAIR PRICING!

No, we don't give 'em away but we don't make your butt hurt either:eek:

No spacers and no passwords, just what you need!

200 more on the way! These continue to be the #1 Brake Bracket! Save and buy your own calipers & rotors, kits just cost you more, you can buy the rest for peanuts.......and why add the cost of shipping? And don't believe in free shipping, the cost to ship is just added into the price you pay for kits.......

No to angle iron & no to kits! Do it right the first time & for less!

We will be releasing the 14 Bolt C&C brackets next week.......watch for them!

We will be testing stuff for a few hours on Saturday but the rest of the weekend will be spent working.......lots of new stuff coming!

Got another brake bracket approved by the insurance company! It will still be a couple of weeks before release......

So far, no other company can....

Is it price they can't match? Yes, thats part of it......

Is it strength, Yes, ours are very strong......

Oh, thats it, they are bent and don't use stinking spacers!:D Oh, they also use off the shelf Calipers & Rotors that you don't have to buy from us at some inflated price either!!

No simpler way to put them.......

We will be releasing the 14 Bolt C&C brackets next week.......watch for them!



Dan, are the brackets for C And C ready?

Thanks!

Gui

Dan, are the brackets for C And C ready?

Thanks!

Gui


They, and another, yet to be announced should be here today or tommorrow.....

This customer was reading some stuff about bending being dangerous on stinking Ebay......he wanted to know why we bent our Brake brackets......

My response, "Because we can". Bending accurately is a lost artform with the onset of CNC machines. Sure the machine can replicate the force required to bend over and over perfectly accurately. The problem is with the operator and their skill and experience level when they go to calibrate the machine. Every batch of steel is minutely different and the operator has to recognise that difference and recalibrate between batches. If that isn't done precisely you will make alot of bad bends, we don't make alot of bad bends......

He went on to ask me why everyone else usually costs' so much more, for that I don't have an answer, maybe its greed? Maybe they never heard of Henry Ford? Perhaps they don't understand that bending is less expensive than cutting additional parts and welding:homer:. And when we make parts we usually make very large batches, you just can't make things for a fair price if you make them one at a time or add unecessary steps to the production......

To be honest, I don't know why everyone dosen't bend? If you can't do it accutately yourself you hire someone that can. After all, I got the idea from all the auto makers in the world, they all bend their brackets, and out of much weaker material too.:p

Lastly he asked how we can ship them for $5 when a Flat Rate Box is $8.40, easy I said, these stack together and fit in the Flat Rate Envelopes so they save you even more money!:laughing:

Thanks for all the brake upgrades guys!

How about a bracket for a GM Dana 70HD Dually? Shipped to 54935?

How about a bracket for a GM Dana 70HD Dually? Shipped to 54935?


So far only the Ford D70's but we are working on more D70's, Chevy dually included!

Dan, Are the Cab and chassi brackets ready? Let me know if you need a guinnea pig, errr... tester to try them on, I volunteer. Would you take some original ruffstuff brackets, new in the box, not installed as partial trade ?:D

Please keep me posted on the joints as well, I will possibly have a list coming up for brackets and joints so I can 3 or 4 link the rear of my junker :D I had a "slight" mishap with my 14 bolt, not sure how salvageable it is ;)

Dan, Are the Cab and chassi brackets ready? Let me know if you need a guinnea pig, errr... tester to try them on, I volunteer. Would you take some original ruffstuff brackets, new in the box, not installed as partial trade ?:D

Please keep me posted on the joints as well, I will possibly have a list coming up for brackets and joints so I can 3 or 4 link the rear of my junker :D I had a "slight" mishap with my 14 bolt, not sure how salvageable it is ;)

We have finished all testing on them and the second batch should be here today!

The joints are in for a startover, the machinist was a little too exuberant with the press and jammed the first 4! The balls are locked from too much pressure.....:( They will do it but I am waiting on another batch so we can make them without quite as tight of tolerance.......

Whut'd I miss?:confused:

Come on Dan....Spill it. :D

Chris

PS: did my missing tabs and Ford Dana 70 brackets ship?

Whut'd I miss?:confused:

Come on Dan....Spill it. :D

Chris




Give me a call and I'll give you the lowdown.....:eek:

We are developing a heim style joint with extreme twist to add strength (3/4" Bolt) & make only one needed per link arm to continuing lowering the cost of a flexible rig .....The first batch was destroyed by an overly aggressive machinist ......going to have to test these for awhile before release and no pics til release, sorry about that......

BTW, we make Brake Brackets!

13 and counting so far......

We have been flying through these, shipped 29 pair Friday.......

Dan! Got mine, thanks!! The quality looks awesome, and I love the bend idea! Getting the axle out this next weekend and installing them! Pics to come soon! Thanks again!!

Gui

I thought you would like them....

Going another direction this time, lets talk tow rigs!

They are for a Chevy D70 dually......someone had to do it......Still $45 For Pirate members, use PBB10 as the code when you check out.....

New brackets......Chevy D70 Dually, for the tow rigs! Same old price!

Finestkind, Bent brackets! No welds, no spacers, just Steel!

We now have over 1800 of these in use! 1800!:eek:

For all the variations you guys are doing, the Standard 14 Bolt SRW, 14 Bolt C&C, & the 14 Bolt SRW using C&C Hubs! All of them $50! $45 with the PBB10 discount......

I can't guarantee they will always be $50 for brake brackets but we will always keep prices in mind.......We are not trying to retire off of every item we sell!

BTW, we have not raised prices ever on these and Steel has gone up substantially over the last 2 years.......:D

Brake brackets this month, We're up to 13 Dask Adapters now!

Should have 2 more through testing this month and more comming!

Do you have any for a rear D60?

Do you have any for a rear D60?

We are testing a bunch, it is a pretty time consuming process with our insurance company but we are fighting through it.

If all the testing continues well we should be able to release 5 new Brake Brackets by the 15th.......

All 3/8" and every last one of them bent! We may even bend flat ones just so we can bend them back!

There will be at least 2 D44, 2 D60, & 1 more Toyota......we might be able to get a nice Bolt On Ford ready also!

That would bring us up to 18 different Disc Brake Brackets! Damm!

Keep checking the site for lots of new items weekly!

Lots of people have been asking me to make these for the IFS stuff that becomes garbage when you do the swap (SAS). We are taking the pieces out of the junk pile and putting them on the rear!

We have 74 pair of these in stock and ready to go!

Another 150 pair being bent as we speak!

Dan I contacted Wilwood (http://www.wilwood.com/Products/001-Calipers/033-cpb/index.asp) ( manufactures of disk brake calipers) and currently they don't offer a combination parking brake caliper for 3/4 ton trucks. Their current models are for small passenger cars. Here is their response " We are working on a larger piston version but nothing large enough for a pickup." Wow Wilwood marketing folks must be asleep in their cubicles. Do you know of any other manufactures of combination parking brake caliper? As the caddy calipers don't provide enough clamping force for large 4x4's. I did see where somebody made a Hydraulic Handbrake Assembly. Not a true e-brake, but better than nothing. Maybe you could contact Wilwood and talk with a marketing person

Give me a call when you can.....

I like the idea of a secondary caliper for the ebrake......In California the ebrake must be mechanical or operated under its own hydraulic system in case of failure of the main hydraulic system......I don't see why that would be hard to do!

The hand e-brake setup is very pimp :) Me likes!

And making a handle with a small fluid resovoir shouldn't be toooo hard, maybe!

You could make one, but having the fluid reseivor in between your seats might not be the best idea, as it would get kick from time to time. A clutch master cylinder would be small enough, found new ones for 18 bucks. These hand brakes are used mostly for Rally cars to get sideways in the conners. I might look at using the stock foot pedal so I could mount the master cylinder outside. Plus they make stuff for boat trailers (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.couplemate.com.au/4019-001.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.couplemate.com.au/c297.html&h=170&w=285&sz=7&hl=en&start=171&um=1&tbnid=82J7-gYa3o5TDM:&tbnh=69&tbnw=115&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhydraulic%2BHandbrake%2B%26start%3D16 0%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rl s%3DGGLR,GGLR:2006-49,GGLR:en%26sa%3DN)that could be used.

A better idea is pony up for a T-case brake as it would be manual, I might just install a line lock for now.

You could make one, but having the fluid reseivor in between your seats might not be the best idea, as it would get kick from time to time. A clutch master cylinder would be small enough, found new ones for 18 bucks. These hand brakes are used mostly for Rally cars to get sideways in the conners. I might look at using the stock foot pedal so I could mount the master cylinder outside. Plus they make stuff for boat trailers (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.couplemate.com.au/4019-001.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.couplemate.com.au/c297.html&h=170&w=285&sz=7&hl=en&start=171&um=1&tbnid=82J7-gYa3o5TDM:&tbnh=69&tbnw=115&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhydraulic%2BHandbrake%2B%26start%3D16 0%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rl s%3DGGLR,GGLR:2006-49,GGLR:en%26sa%3DN)that could be used.

A better idea is pony up for a T-case brake as it would be manual, I might just install a line lock for now.


And everyone I have seen has had some kind of vibration or stickiness problem.

And everyone I have seen has had some kind of vibration or stickiness problem.

Bummer on the T-case! It also has other issues, like needing a special flange which means changes to your drive train setup.

I did find a company TSM (http://www.tsmmfg.com/Rebuilt_Calipers.htm) that offer large GM calipers ( modified caddy calipers adding new lever spring and bracket) to make it easier to add a parking brake cable. Skip said the caliper is the same size as the early 4x4 calipers, and even uses the same 7/16 banjo bolt. He also said that if the parking brake is not holding it was not setup correctly. He also said you need to used the e-brake to keep it adjusted as the pads wear down. His calipers are new and a bit pricey at $320 plus shipping.
You can get custom cables at Control Cables (http://www.controlcables.com/Page.bok?file=downloads.htm) for about $50-60 Download their PDF for cable routing ideas.

FYI only the early year Caddy calipers open up to 1.25" the newer ones only
open up to 1"

EDIT: The Caddy calipers have a 2 3/32" pistion where the K20 calipers have a 2 13/16" pistion, that almost 3/4 of an inch:eek: Ok back to other designs :D

When Caddy calipers are costing $320 you can think of better options, I think 4 standard calipers @ $20-25 each with a handbrake included could be cheaper than the caddy calipers alone......so which is a better way? I'm looking into the handbrake lever now, if you find a cylinder to fit let me know, the rest is easy.....

When Caddy calipers are costing $320 you can think of better options, I think 4 standard calipers @ $20-25 each with a handbrake included could be cheaper than the caddy calipers alone......so which is a better way? I'm looking into the handbrake lever now, if you find a cylinder to fit let me know, the rest is easy.....

Which hand brake are you looking at? I know the older Toyota's have cheap clutch master cylinder. I like the idea of a hand brake as your passenger can operate it if needed in a pinch. I need to spend a couple hours a pickNpull checking out some viable options. Also need to figure out the clutch Master cylinder size to make sure you have enough volume for 2 calipers. If not a Scout II MC is less than $20 bucks, but is a lot bigger
http://www.tsmmfg.com/hand%20brake%20cut.JPG

Which hand brake are you looking at? I know the older Toyota's have cheap clutch master cylinder. I like the idea of a hand brake as your passenger can operate it if needed in a pinch. I need to spend a couple hours a pickNpull checking out some viable options. Also need to figure out the clutch Master cylinder size to make sure you have enough volume for 2 calipers. If not a Scout II MC is less than $20 bucks, but is a lot bigger
http://www.tsmmfg.com/hand%20brake%20cut.JPG

Like the one you sent the pic of, the New Zealand rally car one, it was $320 + another $50 for the small cylinder, it would be more than enough for 2 calipers, remember the size of the master cylinders in the '60's? And they ran all 4 drums which take more fluid than calipers to operate. A very small one operated from the hand brake! Right at the handbrake! More than enough for 2 calipers and way cheaper!

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=322178&stc=1&d=1188054208

These brackets for 14b are great. It was a no brainer install and they fit my '85 chevy 3/4ton calipers great. All I had to do was tap them on with a mallet.

The hand e-brake setup is very pimp :) Me likes!


It is however $370 for that handbrake + shipping from New Zealand, I think with this style of hydraulic cylinder we can make the complete rear brake kit for any rear axle application with an Ebrake available for under $350 complete. Some people are paying nearly $300 just for the Caddy calipers alone and they never stay in adjustment. This way we make the bracket for 2 calipers per wheel (~$90), and we make the handbrake with the cylinder (~$150) and you add 4 calipers, a T fitting and 10' of brakeline for about $130......Most of it is easy, making the handbrake for a fair price is the hard part......BTW, I ordered 5 different cylinders yesterday to test them out.

Dan! Awesome, definitely keep us posted. I am finally getting time back to put on the rig, so your disc brake convo is going in by next week. I was waiting to get some extra parts (all new studs, mine were in horrible shape), so just got them.

Thanks!

I think this one will do the job!

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/master%20cylinder%201.jpg

And I spoke with my next door machinist and I think we may be able to sell the handle with the cylinder for under $150, this is going to be revolutionary! An Ebrake and Disc brake conversion altogether for ~$350ish.....

I think this one will do the job!

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/master%20cylinder%201.jpg

And I spoke with my next door machinist and I think we may be able to sell the handle with the cylinder for under $150, this is going to be revolutionary! An Ebrake and Disc brake conversion altogether for ~$350ish.....

Wow that one is not plastic:smokin: Looks to be all metal, I could fab a small console box to hide/protect it too.

The bracket to tie the Handle and Cylinder together might be enough, maybe a simple lid.....And it is Aluminum and Steel, no plastic.....

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=324258&stc=1&d=1189305518
Got my brackets today, and they are sweet! I can't stress enough how helpful Dan was and how easy this transaction was. I would recommend these brackets (and Ruff Stuff in general) to anyone. A+ man!

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=324258&stc=1&d=1189305518
Got my brackets today, and they are sweet! I can't stress enough how helpful Dan was and how easy this transaction was. I would recommend these brackets (and Ruff Stuff in general) to anyone. A+ man!

This is always good to hear!

I am happy to see a couple of my competitors making disk brake brackets bent like ours, it shows they are the right way to make things.

And I try and ignore the mouth breathing uneducated ones that say you will die if they are bent, just plain dumb! I think we have enough in use now to prove that theory a bunch of crap, and I think every automaker in the world bends their brackets too, I guess they are all wrong too......made up scare tactics......

Dan, made some progress this week! The brackets look awesome, I added some minor bling with hammered finish rattle can, and then painting took a life of its own, and I ended up painting everything, calipers, axle, and even the disc brake outside. Installed the calipers this AM, hoping to have everything finished up by tomorrow:D I have taken my time, since I ended up replacing all bearings, seals, swapping a u-bolt yoke, blah blah blah :)

Will post pics of the final product, hopefully in the next couple days!

Some quick pics to keep me motivated ;)

mocking things in place:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/geberhard/jeep%20projects/14%20disc%20convo/IMGP0842.jpg


painting up:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/geberhard/jeep%20projects/14%20disc%20convo/IMGP0845.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/geberhard/jeep%20projects/14%20disc%20convo/IMGP0848.jpg

brackets in:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/geberhard/jeep%20projects/14%20disc%20convo/IMGP0855.jpg

Thanks again for a killer product!

Those are pretty! And the C&C axle I see......

sure would be nice if i could just order up some Dodge D60 (3 3/8" x 3 3/8") bolt on disc brackets so i don't have to break down and make a custom pair.

know what im sayin Dan??????

sure would be nice if i could just order up some Dodge D60 (3 3/8" x 3 3/8") bolt on disc brackets so i don't have to break down and make a custom pair.

know what im sayin Dan??????

Lets see what that old Poower Wagon needs......What've you been up to since closing the Bike shop? Haven't heard from you since I moved to Sac.....

Dan, so got off my butt and the axle is pretty much done! I have been working on the rig before work every day, making my days long, and my nighst lonely , hahah :D JK!

Some final pics:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/geberhard/jeep%20projects/14%20disc%20convo/IMGP0868.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/geberhard/jeep%20projects/14%20disc%20convo/IMGP0871.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/geberhard/jeep%20projects/14%20disc%20convo/IMGP0874.jpg

I count no less than 5 manufacturers' of different fabricated parts in that pic! You are Switzerland......:D

We were out for 4 days so if you just ordered them look for them Wenesday or Thursday........

Bracket just about done with testing.......Should be available within 2 weeks.

This is essentially the same as our Taco Bracket with the spacing for the earlier caliper.....They will be bent and only $50 a pair!

Your working fast on these:grinpimp:

Your working fast on these:grinpimp:

its the damm insurance testing process......

We insure our products and to get the insurance needed we have to go trhrough a pretty challenging process in both time and dollars to get them to give me their stamp of approval. The process requires that we put a specified amount of miles on an equiped vehicle with measurements of wear 4 different times during the process, a real PITA but required.

You bought enough of these alone over the weekend to keep us busy shipping the for a couple of hours this morning! Remember the discount when ordering, PBB10 when you checkout!

that one is for a Toyota with the small flange caliper......They will be $50, just like the rest!

We have:

37 pair of the C&C brackets

102 pair of the SRW 14 Bolt brackets

29 pair of the C&C Hubs on an SRW axle Bracket

21 pair of the 14 bolt Shorty brackets

31 pair of the Ford D70U brackets

69 pair of the Tacoma rear brackets

47 pair of the FJ40 brackets

And a bunch of the weld on brackets in all 4 sizes!

All of our Disk Brake Adapter brackets are in stock!

I am working, I took an order for 2 pair at 10:45 tonite, I think I need to take some time off! Back to the design board.....

We are now in an active testing phase of the new ebrake setup, keep watching.......

Dan,

I belive you could also make a bracket to fit your e-brake setup for rigs that have foot pedal in place right now, so possibly an additional offering you could have for rigs with that setup as well. I will try finding a pic of a similar setup.

Dan,

I belive you could also make a bracket to fit your e-brake setup for rigs that have foot pedal in place right now, so possibly an additional offering you could have for rigs with that setup as well. I will try finding a pic of a similar setup.

Its really just a bracket so not too big of a deal but let me see what you find, I'm not yet happy with those. I made a couple of prototype brackets to retrofit a stock application but the mounting of a Master cylinder to them is where it gets difficult. A seperate actuating cable may be the best way.

Well, I don't count shock tabs or brackets but we have just over 2000 pair of these in use now, a couple of years ago there weren't 2000 people running 14 bolt axles! In stock and ready to ship.....

a couple of years ago there weren't 2000 people running 14 bolt axles! ...


I wouldn't go that far. Over here on the wrong coast, we've been running them cheapo 14bolts for a long, long time. :p

Hey dan, did you get my latest PM?

Hillbilly

I wouldn't go that far. Over here on the wrong coast, we've been running them cheapo 14bolts for a long, long time. :p

Hey dan, did you get my latest PM?

Hillbilly

And you have one too....

We have been making these for about 2 years now and they seem to be the industry standard. We will strive to continue to be the inovative leader in the Disc Brake area. At least 2 other companies have followed our lead with accurate bending of their brackets also, who will be next?

57 pair out last week, thats of all types together but man you guys are keeping us busy! Thankyou....

Hey Dan, I got the last 4 sets of 14 bolt brackets.Put one set on my rearend,let my friends have two sets,and hid a set in my closet.THANKS AGAIN for a great product.It still amazes me,how we all can stop and hold on very steep places.:D:D THANKS AGAIN.YOU THE MAN,DAN!!

Hey Dan, I got the last 4 sets of 14 bolt brackets.Put one set on my rearend,let my friends have two sets,and hid a set in my closet.THANKS AGAIN for a great product.It still amazes me,how we all can stop and hold on very steep places.:D:D THANKS AGAIN.YOU THE MAN,DAN!!

You need to stop giving them away!:D

200 more pair next Friday but only 5 pair left today.....if you are in a hurry order them today!

200 more pair will be done then, keep those orders coming!

Lets see if we can't make a bracket for it!

And a Chrysler 8.25" and another too! More brackets on the way!

I told you all bent was the way to do it! Priced fairly from day 1, always $50 & always a discount for Pirate members! Thank you all for supporting us through 2000+ pair of these!

Not to mention that I make a serious effort to provide the best customer service I possibly can.....

And $50 a set is a pretty good one!

Still the best reasons to buy anything. Buy American made products. Always ask where it is made, your job depends on it!

And to tell the truth I was at a loss for words.......

If you don't see the benefit of buying American Made products I'm not sure you would understand the explaination as to why that is important.

To put it in a nutshell, you or your neighbor makes something and sells it, the money spent making it is spent here (USA) and the profit is spent here too and you or your neighbor have a job from making it.

The product produced overseas may be of equal quality and price but that is rarely the case because the company that takes their manufacturing overseas is is doing it to make it for less and that also usually means they are making it as cheaply as they can which results in lower standards, lighter materials, cheaper steel, ect....

The company that makes the products in the USA is usually doing it to maintain higher standards and have better oversight on quality. Of course there are exceptions to this but it is generally true.

To be honest, I don't know of any brake brackets being made overseas but I do know of lots of other parts wheelers use that are and the quality and strength just don't measure up.

Anyway, rant over, sometimes I just need to get it out of my system.......

And you guys have now pushed us over the 2300 mark, 2300 pair of these in use! You guys are making us work! Strength, Quality, Value......Thanks for the business!:p

An Insane amount of disc brake brackets!

if i convert the brakes in my pick up by using these brackets, what calipers and disks do i use? how much would it cost me? thank you

what modifications are needed on the axle?

The 14 bolt brackets require no modifications on a '72-'87 14 bolt axle, you use the Rotors & Calipers from a '75 3/4 ton Chevy 4x4 front axle, you will have to do line mod's depending on which vehicle you decide to put it in but the parts just bolt up......

sorry, i forgot to mention that my truck is an '85 toyota pickup 4x4. thanks

sorry, i forgot to mention that my truck is an '85 toyota pickup 4x4. thanks


Some friends are trying to make me have a social life!

The truck you want brackets for is first gen, we are done testing the bracket for them and it is in production, it is a kind of tricky die to bend on and we have made 2 of them to see which is better. We should have them in stock and ready to sell within 2 weeks.

The axle modification you need to do for a Toyota axle is the axle flange needs to fit in the Rotor hat. Before you start upgrading the rear I would suggest upgrading the front to a newer vented series and then using the old on the rear.

We have all the brackets in stock and I am pretty deep on them right now, I don't want anyone to ask for them and not get them for Festivus! 94 pair of the 14 bolt brackets right now and another 400 pair:eek: next week!

Dan!!! Happy Pre-festivus!!!

Back to the top for a killer product!

I hope your thanksgiving went well, how is the carseat cage coming?

I hope your thanksgiving went well, how is the carseat cage coming?


Great times with family and friends.:smokin:

Car seat cage, is that like taking your toddler white water rafting? Just kidding, I suspect your trying to be extra safe.

Parking brake options. How that ever work out?

Great times with family and friends.:smokin:

Car seat cage, is that like taking your toddler white water rafting? Just kidding, I suspect your trying to be extra safe.

Parking brake options. How that ever work out?


They are not yet for sale but are in production, should be in the next week....

Get yourself a gift!

We have 12 different Disc Brake Brackets available and are adding more! Check them out!

And to tell the truth I was at a loss for words.......

If you don't see the benefit of buying American Made products I'm not sure you would understand the explaination as to why that is important.

To put it in a nutshell, you or your neighbor makes something and sells it, the money spent making it is spent here (USA) and the profit is spent here too and you or your neighbor have a job from making it.

The product produced overseas may be of equal quality and price but that is rarely the case because the company that takes their manufacturing overseas is is doing it to make it for less and that also usually means they are making it as cheaply as they can which results in lower standards, lighter materials, cheaper steel, ect....

The company that makes the products in the USA is usually doing it to maintain higher standards and have better oversight on quality. Of course there are exceptions to this but it is generally true.

To be honest, I don't know of any brake brackets being made overseas but I do know of lots of other parts wheelers use that are and the quality and strength just don't measure up.

Anyway, rant over, sometimes I just need to get it out of my system.......

Think about it before you buy, anything & everything, don't just buy it because it was on sale......

Buy parts that contribute to US GNP, not China's GNP, its YOUR job that depends on it......

Buy parts that contribute to US GNP, not China's GNP, its YOUR jub that depends on it......

Couldn't agree more...just ordered up some 14B stuff. Thanks for the discount...even at "normal" pricing you had the best price and IMHO the best product. :smokin:

Thanks Dan!!

Couldn't agree more...just ordered up some 14B stuff. Thanks for the discount...even at "normal" pricing you had the best price and IMHO the best product. :smokin:

Thanks Dan!!


We do our best to Beat even China prices!

Buy parts that contribute to US GNP, not China's GNP, its YOUR job that depends on it......

Because when you buy 4xChina, you are helping kill US businesses and it really dosen't matter what you do, you will be affected!

Kind of wierd shaped stocking......But its the idea!

Just wondering if there is any update on the dubble rear caliper brackets for the 14B. Release date?

Thanks Jason

Just wondering if there is any update on the dubble rear caliper brackets for the 14B. Release date?

Thanks Jason

We are pretty slammed keeping the Christmas rush going but we should have them ready by then.

These are the industry standard......

Dan, I called your number, and your box is full, it won't even take a message....:eek:. I've looked on your cite and can't see one for my application, so I will ask.

1992 Dodge Dana 70 single wheel, in a cummins powered truck. Bo you have brackets for this one yet? Probably goes somewhere else, but what about a park brake situation?

Thanks Dan.

Michael

It is the last Monday before Christmas when you can ship with hope of receiving something before the holiday, I have lived on the phone today! It slows down about now and I will keep answering until it stops ringing.....call away.

Thanks for all the business, we do appreciate it!

Got these for Christmas!

But we have more......

did you get the toyota brackets done yet?

did you get the toyota brackets done yet?


Will be done Thursday! 1 week from today.....

This time, don't redo your drum brakes, Disc Brakes are much less expensive and take less time too!

This time, don't redo your drum brakes, Disc Brakes are much less expensive and take less time too!
Damn 3.11 Am New years , and your working...... :D I talked to ya earlier bout some beadlock bolts. Thanks alot :)

Damn 3.11 Am New years , and your working...... :D I talked to ya earlier bout some beadlock bolts. Thanks alot :)


Lots to do!

2 Years ago I decided to go retail and I commited to 3 years of 7 days a week, ~20 hour days, if you are going to offer the best products at the best prices you can't play around. You can't have another job and you can't take a vacation until you have payed your dues, 1 more year and then I can relax a little......Until then I will be locked to my phone in the shop!

We have 6 employees now and some people would say we are a successful business, I say its' time to get back to work!

Dan is the Man :smokin:

Dan is the Man :smokin:

And these are the brackets you want! 100% bent & gimmick free! BTW, I just think they are done the right way.......

7 days a week, every week!

When you decide to start a business you need to think commitment!

Strength, Quality, Value!

Well, I think so anyway! So do over 2500 others that are using them......

Always go all the way!

any brackets for a 93 or 94 d60ff dodge srw??

any brackets for a 93 or 94 d60ff dodge srw??

And we can compare some measurements, there are way too many variations of the D60 rear end to know anything without speaking first.....

Also, we now have 36 different axles in the shop but we don't have anywhere near every one made......I keep buying them when I find one I don't have......

I see companies advertising a "Huge" selection when they make 3 styles, we make 11 and are continuing to make and test more types. I don't really thing 11 is a huge selection but it is when compared to 3:laughing:

Huge selection!

On the top!

And great score on those axles too!

It's looking to me like every 3/4 'Burban rear axle ever made is eventually going to end up in a crawler......I am glad you all have chosen the bent way! Why be normal anyway?

Nearly a month into the new year, time to get to work on the new project!

Always wanted to say that! Watch for something new tonite!

No need to play the numbers with you, same as always, not slowly reduced again and again to show how much we had to come down in price......these have always been this price......From Day 1:smokin:

And now for something completely different........

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/Dual%20Caliper%201.jpg

NO! Not to run dual calipers on the rear axle, that would be dangerous and stupid! This is the first part of our new, inexpensive, 14 bolt disc brake conversion, Ebrake solution, and Turning Brake all in one for a tab under $400:eek::D.

The multiple holes are not for clocking, the bleeder will always be on top. The holes make it possible to run the bracket on either side and the bracket is clocked to have the top caliper pin come out just over the spring or just under the spring if you run lift blocks......

Sound good to you? Does to me!

The 14 bolt axle is only the first, we will soon offer this for every axle we currently make a bracket for and every axle we add to the list!

page 2, can't have that, not for this price!

And think Beadlocks for the snow!

100% spacer free! And they are way easy to use......its not rocket science!

that is a very large pile of steel and damm heavy with a broken forklift!

And the stacks of brake Brackets are reaching for the rafters!

And if calculating 10% off on $50 is too hard it equals $5 off, no funny numbers here unless you stopped learning around the 5th grade:eek:

No, its not a customer that can't do simple math:shaking: Its my Idol! The hero of everything cool! But he's stealing my lines......Poor little richard, always compensating.

So what is the question?

Another Saturday spent working.....:(

I am still looking for a person that can answer the phone and understand more than 1 brand of vehicle.......if you are out there and are in the Sac vicinity give me a call......!

.....of the lucky ones! Those were the days, I think I dream of sleeping sometimes:p

The weather in Sacramento in the winter really sucks, I am pretty tired of 9 out of 10 days of rain!

At least we have good brakes to stop you on the slick trails:p

We have been incredibly busy for the last 3 months and its getting harder and harder to spend any time on Pirate.......Oh well, life goes on!

Thanks you all for the orders, we are still selling these at an silly rate, I am continously amazed by the amount of people using 14 bolt axles!

will they bolt to 1988 & up 14bolt

will they bolt to 1988 & up 14bolt


The axle tube Diameter is larger, the studs are smaller, and the offset is different. We are working on one for the newer axles as we speak.

i just ordered a set of these for a dana 70U from you, along with a pair of dana 70u springperches 2.5" wide and a set of 14 bolt 2.5" wide spring perches! cant wait to get them to see how good of quality they are.. they look NICE!

Ray

i just ordered a set of these for a dana 70U from you, along with a pair of dana 70u springperches 2.5" wide and a set of 14 bolt 2.5" wide spring perches! cant wait to get them to see how good of quality they are.. they look NICE!

Ray


OH damn i think i the spring perches for the 14 bolt im putting under the bronco needed to be 3" wide!! can you please switch one of the sets? so i need one 2.5 wide for the dana70u and one 3" wide for the 14 bolt.. im pretty sure my bronco 1978 is 3" wide springs!

ray

the order number is 2513-6594-2163-8411

It has been adjusted and they will fly this morning!

A nice one though, had the bay doors open all day!

Going to a 2 phone system next week, we will have an order only line and a tech line. I will continue to answer the tech questions myself and I will have 3 different employees answering the order line. That should make it a little easier to get through to us! We have been very, very busy since way before Christmas and we are up another 30% since the first of the year so it is certainly time for it. Thanks to all of you that have made it possible!

Another busy morning! Try calling in the afternoon or early evening (ca Time) and get through on the first try......I answer the phone from 8am - 8pm PST....

Just shows you how good these are, 3300 pairs in use!

The originals, as they were designed......
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=270981&stc=1&d=1162691136

More, as designed......
http://www.dripspeed.com/temp/14bolt1.jpg

Still, and from day 1, $50, BEFORE the PBB10 discount!

BTW, all of the 14 bolt brackets will clear 15" steel wheels without modification unless you have a strange wheel. The Caliper and Rotor can only go in 1 place and it dosen't matter who's brackets you use, that place can't change......

Great parts and fast service
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p218/lizard-lips/truggy%20build/0129008-1.jpg

Looks great on there!

We are working on about 40 new products right now and we will slowly release them as production can work them into the process......keep an eye out for whats new, lots of different things!

Keeping these in the bestsellers category! We have been working on many other Brake brackets and you will be seeing them over the next few weeks as they come available.

Dan,

I have read up to page 16 of this thread and searched it once and found that you are now including the 4 bolts needed per bracket. I don't have the ones from when I pulled the drum brakes, so are you including a bolts now? Good product and will be picking it up here soon as I can.

Richard

Edit:

Just got off the phone with you Dan about the info on the bolts for the 14 bolt bracket, thanks. Also just ordered a set from the website. I will post up pics when I get them installed when they are delivered

And an amen to your patience, you read every page!

Message sent.....

And an interesting internet observation......

We sell these on Ebay too, for $52 in our Ebay store and at auction with an opening bid of $45 and a buy it now of $55.......95% of our Ebay sales are of the buy it now for $55 instead of buying it in our Ebay store for $3 less, Whats up with that? I think Ebay is pretty much the internet with training wheels but thanks to Ebay we can keep the price lower here!

BTW, 311 pair out the door in the trailing month, thanks for the orders!

Stay safe but only in moderation:p

It was 70+ yesterday here, time to get it all together for summer!

Still a great time to upgrade your rig!

And the easiest to use too!

Loved your weld on bracketts...any progress on the bolt-on's for the Dana 70 HD Dually?

Loved your weld on bracketts...any progress on the bolt-on's for the Dana 70 HD Dually?

We are working on the second prototype for the Ford D70 Dually......Spacers are easy, bends require precision......

Keep the orders coming, you need a 14 bolt and then you need disc brakes!:p

From a guy trying to calculate the cost to do the swap.

Well, nationwide the cost of calipers & rotors is about $25 each, some parts of the country report paying $9.99 each but I pay ~$25. Add a little line if your axle needs it replaced and there you go.

So around $100-$125 in parts and $50 in brackets and there you go! Way less than rebuilding drum brakes.....

From a guy trying to calculate the cost to do the swap.

Well, nationwide the cost of calipers & rotors is about $25 each, some parts of the country report paying $9.99 each but I pay ~$25. Add a little line if your axle needs it replaced and there you go.

So around $100-$125 in parts and $50 in brackets and there you go! Way less than rebuilding drum brakes.....


Because parts is parts, when you pay more than this you are just paying more for the brackets......:eek:

I think the big companies were all correct when they started bending steel, its such a flexible material too!:p:laughing:

If its' good enough for every auto maker in the world I think its good enough for us......:smokin: 3500 pair in use!

I see the e-brake pic on your site under at the top under disk brake adapters but I don't see it listed for sale anywhere on the site? Any more info on this is it ready for sale yet? Looking for either the 14b c&c or 14b srw with c&c hubs, haven't got the axle yet, collecting parts first, less big things to trip over.:grinpimp:

We have had a couple of problems with production, got those worked out and what do you know, the master cylinder provider seems to be going out of business. I can't get through to them.....They had changed the clevis on the master since I had bought the first one and the clevis they used was made for them. I had designed the bracket around their master and with the new clevis the length was wrong, we changed the bracket and now I think I will have to again before I can release them. It is not a factory item or I could just use a different supplier......

Anyway, I can't sell something that isn't repairable so I have sold the 36 masters I had bought to a race car parts company (I think) and am waiting on one from another supplier before I can redesign the bracket. The bracket I am talking about is the Master Cylinder bracket, not the caliper bracket.....

It is the best place to start and an inexpensive upgrade you want to do.

Do you have the caliper bracket/ brakes for the e-brake upgrade for sale w/o the new master cylinder? In the original pic it looked like a special bracket for the brakes as well and I don't see that? I just got the 14b srw today would like to get it under the Jeep asap. But will need an e-brake that works eventually.

+1 For a good product

Some 'real world' good caliper bracket pics

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/rbetting/14B/CIMG0097.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/rbetting/14B/CIMG0099.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/rbetting/14B/CIMG0101.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/rbetting/14B/CIMG0102.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/rbetting/14B/CIMG0104.jpg

Its always nice to see them in action and out of the shop......

The real problem with anything you love to do is when you start doing it for a living you get less time to do it for fun.......:(

We are trying to get to more events this summer but we will not leave the business to rot while we are gone, thats why I pay these guys to work here!:D

Just priced fairly, right from the start:D

We started selling these 2 1/2 years ago for $50 a pair, they are still $50 a pair......!

We do not make something and only lower the price when the competition heats up:laughing: nor do we work for someone else and only make things when they aren't looking.......

We price things fairly right from the start......priced right, 1st time around!

Gotta love my competitors comedy though, $1.50 for a 1" x 1/2" grade 8 Bolt? I would think to get that kind of deal you would have to drop trow and bend over and then say thank you sir, may I have another:laughing:those are .20 pretty much anywhere. if you need them, the ones you have work fine:shaking:

I guess we are just from different worlds, and I don't live in his:eek:

Now with 8 nearly gold plated grade 8 bolts too! :eek:

My competitor continues his slime campaign.......what an a**

life goes on in the fast lane......:D

And summer is almost here, time to get that new axle done!

We now provide those really expensive bolts too!

I didn't read all 19 pages of this thread, so I'll just ask. Do yall make a disk brake bracket for Ford 9" rears? Thanks.

For a Ford 9" axle because they are used in so many vehicles with so many different bolt patterns but our weld on brackets are used with any rotor from 12 3/8 - 12 3/4 diameters. We are working on another to be released soon, watch for it......

Bending away in the 100 degree shop! Where the hell did spring go?

27 pair ordered from the weekend, what were you guys eating this weekend, Brakes?

But i don't get to start until Saturday night after the phone stops ringing......Everyone be safe and have a great time!

was wondering if you made caliper mounts for c&c hubs for a 14 bolt?


thanks Bill

was wondering if you made caliper mounts for c&c hubs for a 14 bolt?


thanks Bill

I think we are still the only ones. We make the brackets for a C&C axle, a SRW axle, & C&C hubs on a SRW axle......Selection!

Selection.....:p

We just sold the 4000th pair of these, I think we are doing something right!

I ordered a couple sets a few weeks ago. They were at my doorstep in 2 or 3 days. Top notch quality and service. Thanks Dan.

Sean O'Connor

Its always good to hear!

Got the new lift up this afternoon and the new TIG going yesterday (300+ AMPS!)......Time to play on my own truck this weekend, not just a company truck but the one I drive all the time......Kind of cool, my main fab employee is upset because I can TIG way better than he can, but he's in his 20's and didn't spend the first 5 years of his fabbin' life with a torch! We couldn't afford a MIG in the 70's, gas was the way, at least it makes TIG easy, and I still MIG aluminum better than I MIG steel......

The least expensive mod you can do to a 14 bolt axle, you can do the whole thing for under $175!

The least expensive mod you can do to a 14 bolt axle, you can do the whole thing for under $175!

I always wonder why anyone would buy a kit for hundreds more than it would cost if you just took a trip to the local parts store......This is an inexpensive thing to do, unless you buy a kit:D

When you get your 14 Bolt axle......

You are good to go! Easily 30% more stopping power.....

Still bent, still the best!

You could just use angle iron I guess:shaking::flipoff2:

You could just use angle iron I guess:shaking::flipoff2:

Hey now!!!

My parts arrived thanks.

I think we will stick to bending them! Angle iron looks so funky......:D

We got some things done, hopefully all good!

I think they work pretty well......:D

Just an opinion of course!

right at 100, ouch!

For Quality & Price!

For Quality & Price!

A company that picks up the phone......

I don't understand companies that don't answer the phone? How do they survive?

Been busy the last few days!