: SII frame/body measurments


ChiScouter
05-31-2006, 06:46 PM
I have a real early Kentrol tub that was installed before I bought the rig. The body is on a 3 inch body lift, but I am pretty sure something is amiss. The bottom of my rockers is not paralell to the frame. I don't have a stock scout, or any other scout anywhere near here that I can use to measure, or as a guide to try to figure what is amiss, but I am pretty sure that the guy who installed the body cut and rewelded the body mounts giving me this tilt. I read somewhere long ago that with the earliest kentrol bodys that a body lift was necessary. It also came with a 33 gal NWMP tank that I believe was modified and its mounting flanges lowered on the tank to take advantage of the body lift. The body tilt never really bothered me before, and I used it to my advantage when installing the now defunct caddy drivetrain, but as long as I am installing a new drivetrain I am thinking about cutting and rewelding the bodymounts to make the rockers paralell to the frame rails, or just slicing the body lift pucks to level out the body. I am anxiously awaiting some new rocksliders from snoopy and I want to get this body issue cleared up before I weld on the new sliders.

So I am asking 2 things, Are the rockers paralell to the frame on a SII, and how much space is between the body and the frame on a stock SII with a solid body and reasonably good rubber or poly body mounts?

Mechanos
05-31-2006, 08:48 PM
Yes.... the rockers on my steel body are parallel with the frame rails. Measuring on the outside of the frame rail, I get 3" from the steel floor pan to the top of the frame rail. It's about 3.25" or so measuring from the inside of the frame rail to the floor pan (hard to see the tape, so that is not exact on the inside measurement). The floor pan slopes downward from the trans tunnel to the rocker.

Oh, I have Energey Suspension polyurethane body mount bushings.

Bo185
05-31-2006, 09:39 PM
Depending on what pan you use you can mont the engine pretty low. I use the truck pan and intake on mine with the spring over I mounted it low and pushed it back.



The rockers should be parallell with the frame.

ChiScouter
06-01-2006, 05:08 PM
Thanks guys, I figured they were supposed to be paralell. the body is farther from the frame in the front, than it is in the rear. Ill never be able to figure out why the guy who originally did the conversion did that, but I plan on lowering the front to level things out.

Bo I have both truck and camaro pans, I was planning on using the truck one for the added capacity unless somneone gives me a compelling reason to use the camaro pan.

Snoopy,.....you there? How soon is the next batch of sliders coming off the grill?

Mechanos
06-01-2006, 08:27 PM
Thanks guys, I figured they were supposed to be paralell. the body is farther from the frame in the front, than it is in the rear. Ill never be able to figure out why the guy who originally did the conversion did that, but I plan on lowering the front to level things out.

Bo I have both truck and camaro pans, I was planning on using the truck one for the added capacity unless somneone gives me a compelling reason to use the camaro pan.

Snoopy,.....you there? How soon is the next batch of sliders coming off the grill?
One of the local guys around here (Whitescout here on the PBB) has one of those fiberglass bodies on his Scout also. I remember him saying that it was made without center body mounts (or something like that) and he had to fab something up. Maybe yours is similar and that's why it's lower in the center than the front???? Maybe he'll see this and post up... if not, try shooting him a PM.

Bo185
06-01-2006, 10:50 PM
Bo I have both truck and camaro pans, I was planning on using the truck one for the added capacity unless somneone gives me a compelling reason to use the camaro pan.


I would go truck pan and use the truck oil pick up tube and O-ring. Lots of people use the wrong one and have oil pressure problems when they first start up.