I got robbed but I'm fawking BATMAN

[Curtis]

Nellie and I got home today from the doctors to find a running Mazda in our driveway. I thought it was someone looking for the people who lived here before we moved in in June. However, one of our dog came up to meet us, and we know we locked them in the house before we left. So, I knew someone was in the house.

I walked into the house and found our DVD player on the kitchen floor. I spun on my heels and went out to Nellie to call 911 on the cell phone. While I was explaining to 911 what was going on, I stood by the car and Nellie went into the house to see what was going on. I followed Nellie into the house to tell her to not touch anything to almost get run over by her running to the front door screaming someone was in the orchard with a weapon and threatening to kill her. That was it. I grabbed my shotgun asking her where he was and what he said. He was in the back yard and moved toward her with his hand in his pocket asking, "do you want to die?" She took off running toward me at that point.

Anyway, while I reached for the shotgun, I heard the car reeving and driving away. I took off running south toward the main road through the orchard. I've got the cell to my ear telling the operator how to get to our place (the county hasn't issued all the paperwork for the new address yet) and the shotgun in my other hand. He saw I was going to cut him off so he took off north through the orchard. I turned and ran back to the house and jumped in my Suburban telling the dispatcher I was giving chase.

I tore off to the west through the trees because I knew the only way off the property the way he headed was to the north-west corner. Sure enough as I made the road I saw his car coming through the trees. I got up to about 50 right away (thanks to turbo diesel). He stopped and picked up someone at the north of the orchard and just began to tear off to the north heading toward the road I was on. Now, remember I'm still talking to the dispatcher giving directions and telling her what I'm doing. I then decided at the last minute to ram their car.

I told the operator, "hold on. I'm going to ram him to stop him from getting away." I floored it and held on. I caught him HARD in the left rear tail light and pushed his car about 150 feet. He finally came to rest in the middle of the road. I grabbed the phone and shotgun and ran to the car (shotgun up and ready). The entire time I was yelling to them in the car saying I had a gun and would use it if they moved. Luckily, my plan of hitting them worked and knocked them both out cold.

I grabbed the driver and pulled him out of the car. He started coming to so I made him lie on the ground and not move. I then pointed the gun at the passenger (scanning the car for weapons) and told HER to get out. Her seat was all bent from the collision and very woozy. I made her come over and lie on the ground about ten feet from the guy.

At this point he made a movement like he was going to get up and moved his hand toward his pocket. I kicked him square in the head knocking him out again. I then patted him down while yelling at the girl to not move or I would shoot next time. All he had was a good sized pair of scissors and my wife's eye lash curler in his pockets. He could have done some damage with the scissors.

I then held them at gun point waiting for the cops to show up. As the cops were coming I asked them if they heard the sirens and that it was for them. I said, "and you're going to jail." The guy shrugged his shoulders at that. I said, "yeah, at least you'll get a bed and three squares." You see at this point I realized what they mostly had in their car from us was FOOD. They had our digi cam, camcorder and mag light. But, they had two of OUR pots, OUR bean, OUR tortillas, OUR tofu (?) and OUR tinfoil. What the hell is that?

Anyway, as the cop approached I told the dispatcher to tell him I put the gun on the hood, my hands in the air and I was backing away from the Suburban (didn't want to get shot). He stopped and I made sure to point out the shotgun and that I was the owner and the people on the ground are the ones who were robbing us. He was cool and cuffed them and then walked me aside and began questioning me.

At this point I realized the damage I did to their car. It is TOTALED. I pushed the entire left corner to the front seat. The rear axle is bent and so is the left rear wheel. It was the kind of Mazda that has a full piece of glass as a rear hatch so it was gone. The windshield even was broken either by them hitting it or from my fog light that ended up in the driver's side front floor. It is one dead car. My Suburban has a fairly good sized dent in the front bumper and one of the fog lights came off. Nothing much really. I guess that's what happens when an 8000 lb rig hits a 1500 lb car :D

I did end up going off to the hospital and am hurting big time right now, but it was worth it. I figured once he threatened to kill Nellie, it was on. No more games at that point. And, the cops didn't even file an accident report against me. They just put in the report that I used necessary force to stop the fleeing suspects after they threatened to kill Nellie and robbed us. The cops were too COOL :D

I had to tell the story at the hospital and everyone was going on about it. Even the people around me were cheering me. It was then that I realized I'm my own hero right now. Don't fawk with me :D

[Travis Waldher]

on one hand cool...

on the other...

doesn't this have the making of an urban legend?

assailant
female victim
man comes to the rescue, chasing the car down..

the thread about starting an urban legend...

[FourBanger]

Kick ass! :beer:

[Bubba Ray Boudreaux]

Cranksters perhaps??????????????

A little vigilante justice is always good for the soul....................

Good job, hopefully the fawking justice system keeps them as guests for a long while:D

[Curtis]

Originally posted by Travis Waldher
on one hand cool...

on the other...

doesn't this have the making of an urban legend?

assailant
female victim
man comes to the rescue, chasing the car down..

the thread about starting an urban legend...

Huh :confused:

[Del taco]

dude.


wtf?

im speachless.



congrats, i think. or im sorry. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT?



you going to be on the news!?

[Travis Waldher]

Originally posted by Curtis


Huh :confused:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=187386&highlight=urban+legend

I dunno.. figured you had to have read this today. :p

[Curtis]

Originally posted by Bubba Ray Boudreaux
Cranksters perhaps??????????????

A little vigilante justice is always good for the soul....................

Good job, hopefully the fawking justice system keeps them as guests for a long while:D

I thought they were cranksters at first too, but I found out that the girl and her husband (not the guy she was with) had just finished YESTERDAY as part of the work crew who picked olives here.

Anyway, the cops said they were definitely being charged with felonies :D

[Curtis]

Originally posted by Travis Waldher


http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=187386&highlight=urban+legend

I dunno.. figured you had to have read this today. :p

Nope. I had a doc appointment at 9:30 and then all this happened when we got home. I didn't sit at the computer until I wrote this out :flipoff2:

[LordRatner]

You're in Cali, give it time, you will be arrested for infringing on their rights as criminals, and they will get your house, truck, and Nellie



:flipoff2:


Awesome job man, if only you could hear what they were saying in that car...

[Jeepskickass]

I call bullshit!! Liberals don't own shotguns!!!































:flipoff2:Just kidding, Curtis... Great job!

[Curtis]

Originally posted by Jeepskickass
I call bullshit!! Liberals don't own shotguns!!!


:flipoff2:Just kidding, Curtis... Great job!

I keep telling you guys I'm NOT a Liberal ;)

[Curtis]

Originally posted by LordRatner
You're in Cali, give it time, you will be arrested for infringing on their rights as criminals, and they will get your house, truck, and Nellie



:flipoff2:


Awesome job man, if only you could hear what they were saying in that car...

Yeah, no kidding. I already lawyered up and contacted my insurance company.

I know they didn't say anything once I hit them :D :D

[ChevyGal]

WTG Curtis! Glad you kicked some butt. Also that you and Nellie are ok too. I am sure it will quite sometime before someone tries to steal from you again.... :D

[JAG]

Your in Kali, if its the truth youll probablly be in jail for assault and they'll end up owning your house. Rat basturd state.

[convertiyota]

What a fawken story!!

Nice work!!

[SLOwag]

:eek: I think that was the best damn story i have ever read... CONGRATS! :beer: :beer: :beer:

[LOKNLOD]

Originally posted by Jeepskickass
I call bullshit!! Liberals don't own shotguns!!!
:flipoff2:Just kidding, Curtis... Great job!

Not a liberal...a LEFTIST. Get it right! ;)

Mighty glad you're okay Curtis...nice work.

[madmarx]

Way to kick ass and take names.:beer: :beer: :beer:

You keep doing things like this, we might convert you to a right wing wacko :flipoff2:

I like it when a liberal uses a firearm to defend themselves and there family.:D

[Jason R]

Nice man. :beer: for you.

I bet it feels good getting the last laugh :D

[Malltero]

Originally posted by Del taco

congrats, i think. or im sorry. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT?


I know what to say.... PICS.... :flipoff2:

[pkhart]

more f**king power to you man, that's what having rights is all about. :usa:

on another note, you are in kali, i would question putting this on public display, you kicked the guy in the head, that is use of a deadly weapon, may not want a statement like this coming back and kicking you in the ass if the guy has some serious problems and looks for legal retributions.

[ShawnM]

"... but I'm fawking BATMAN"

So did you make him leave his suit on or just the hood and cape? :p :flipoff2:

Now you should go give the pd's shown on COPS and teach them how to properly take out a car!

WTG Dude!! :beer:

[Curtis]

Originally posted by pkhart
more f**king power to you man, that's what having rights is all about. :usa:

on another note, you are in kali, i would question putting this on public display, you kicked the guy in the head, that is use of a deadly weapon, may not want a statement like this coming back and kicking you in the ass if the guy has some serious problems and looks for legal retributions.

I was sure to tell the cops that I kicked him because I thought he was going for a weapon (and he did have the scissors in his pocket as I found out later), and I left the scissors there for the cop to find. I also made sure the EMT's gave him and the girl attention before me and let them leave on the first ambulance. So, the cops said not to worry, but like I said, I called my lawyer already.

[Curtis]

Here's a pic of the burb with my gun (note the trigger lock back in place) (edit: I didn't even break stride since I keep the key on me all the time)

I'm going to see if I can get pics from the cops of everything else for my scrapbook

[Del taco]

Originally posted by ShawnM
"... but I'm fawking BATMAN"

So did you make him leave his suit on or just the hood and cape? :p :flipoff2:





BUUUAH AH HAHAH A HAHA HAH HA HAH HA HA!

-Show that man what hes won!

[ironpig70]

your wife(nellie) so has some guts to go in the house after you turned heels and left:D me i would have shoot them both i hate thieves:mad:

[Frankie_Bones]

Man, I can only imagine how fast you heart was pounding during this! Good job, way to stay calm and composed under such circumstaces!


:beer: :beer: :beer: to you for taking one more thief off the streets.

[Curtis]

Originally posted by Mark Timon
Way to kick ass and take names.:beer: :beer: :beer:

You keep doing things like this, we might convert you to a right wing wacko :flipoff2:

I like it when a liberal uses a firearm to defend themselves and there family.:D

Leftist not Liberal :flipoff2:

This is the second time in my life I've used the same gun to twart this type of thing. Last time I actually shot it though as the guy took off over my fence (he didn't get in the house though)

[Glenn]

Batman, Pffftttt... Sounds more like a 'Superman' caper. :eek:

You're either an incredibly brave man or you wuz really PISSED. I love the part about ramming their turd car with your Burban. :D:D Then dragging their asses outta the car at gunpoint. :eek: I bet they pissed their pants... Little Fawkers got what they deserved. No wait, they deserve more than that for threatening to kill... :mad: I hope they get some serious jail time to add to their misery... I FAWKIN HATE THIEVES...

Damn good job there Curtis... :beer:

[SeanP]

Fawkin A, Curtis. Reading that got me hard.

Glad that they didn't steal your shotgun, things might have turned out differently.

Now if we can just get Ahhhnold to sposor some legislation that transfers rights away from criminals and back to law abiding citizens, we might salvage some justice in this state after all.

SeanP

[ultimatebronco]

Great story glad every thing worked out for ya. Hope those Bastids do hard time.

Oh yeah
http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=89397&toggle=fullsize&filename=34bat.jpeg

[Curtis]

I bet it was quite a sight seeing me run through the orchard with the gun and phone. Funny thing is I wasn't pissed at all. I just did what needed being done without even thinking about it. The operator even said thank you and was amazed at how well I handled the entire thing.

He couldn't have done much with the gun because of the trigger lock, and I keep the keys on me all the time. I may have killed him had he had the gun pointed at me in my own home.

[Frankie_Bones]

Originally posted by Curtis
I may have killed him had he had the gun pointed at me in my own home.


Yep, a liberal !!

[Haole]

Cool. :beer:

[Hawaii500_1999]

great job man!!!!!!

you did the wright thing.

[Drunk tank]

Originally posted by Hawaii500_1999
great job man!!!!!!

you did the wright thing.


You mean "right"?

Now that was a sick ass story! :beer: for ya! I think we should all chip in and get ya a new front bumper! I got $10, who's with me?

[RMW]

you should have made them say they were your bitches or you were going to shoot them. :flipoff2:

[larryboy]

Originally posted by Drunk tank



all chip in and get ya a new front bumper! I got $10, who's with me?

he only needs one,send him the $$$.

good job curtis!!!

[Hickeyjones]

Originally posted by r0ckRnr
you should have made them say they were your bitches or you were going to shoot them. :flipoff2: Fawk yeah! you shoulda messed with their sick ass heads. Tonka tuff man, way tonka.:beer: :beer:

[Simon]

That was great.

Where I live, the cops would have written you up for the failure to display a front license plate - after you damaged it ramming them, and the grand jury would be talking with you. Then you'd probably get sued by the fawkers. Hopefully your state has the same law ours does denying a personal injury claim to people injured in the commission of a crime.


You did the right thing. Don't think I'd have had the balls. Need to get me one of them there shotguns (with trigger lock) and a matching Bat Cape.

Simon

[rusted]

Nope, you're NOT a Liberal. But it looks like only a couple of people know that. I thought you were at first, but again and again you've proved yourself true to your word and not a fawkin turd-ass.

GOOD FUCKING JOB CURTIS! I have a lot of respect for you already, and it just went up 2000%. You have actual, by-God real courage, resourcefulness and goodwill. IMHO, only a man truly at peace with himself and his universe could have pulled off what you did. I know that sounds heavy but if you contemplate it, I believe it's true.

Again, you're my fawkin hero man. I will forward this story on to a lot of people.

And for the rest of PBB, I'd like to add in a 'Told ya so!' ;)

[DEnd]

I would have killed the guy...

I don't think I would have been in a sane enough state of mind to not pull the trigger.

'course all thats assuming I would have had the balls to chase him down.

[antt]

awesome story mate:D

and the thread title is a classic, :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

[Mr McGee]

holy shit you are awesome!!!

[Berzerker]

Oh Fawk yeah! :D

Glad everything turned out for the best and you and Nellie are ok and the bad guys are going to the slammer!!

Nice to hear things working out the way they should every once in a while :D

[JeepinDoug]

Great job. With all the adrenaline you still kept a level head.
I would've been squashing their soft little heads with my boot heels.

[trampas]

Damn that was a good read Curtis. :D

I would've had to pick my heart up off the orchard floor after an incident like that though... too much adrenaline for me man - kicking the dude in the head would've meant putting my foot out the other side of his skull. :D

Super ending to a weird afternoon! :beer: :rasta: Damned people anyways... what else can ya do? ;)

[Motornoggin]

I just have one question...




WHY DID YOU HAVE TOFU?!?!?!?!?!?!?




Oh yeah, and good job!:D

[3Wheel_Drive]

dude......mad props to you! That was a sick way to handle the situation. :flipoff2: I would have done the same if i was in ur shoes. The nerve of some people.:mad:

[Curtis]

Thanks everyone. I'm beginning to really hurt now, but I still say it was worth it. I'm going to call tomorrow to see if I can get the 911 recording. If I do, I'll post it up :)

Oh, and when you lead a life like I do (remember my getting hit by lightning a few weeks ago), this was nothing :flipoff2:

[stone]

i go to be batman last symester in school. i am still in college and i bounce at a club downtown. this was in january when it was cold out. well i had gone to the club to get my paycheck on a random weeknight, and while i was in there decided to hangout for a bit. well when i was leaving i saw a guy walking from the parking lot in a new remington fleace jacket. i was like "hey man thats a nice jacket i have the same one". and he was like yeah i just got it. and i didnt think much of it.
i go to my roommates jeep that i drove there and the windows were unzipped and everythign was gone. including my new remington polar fleece. so i took off after the guy. its 2xl and when i caught up to the guy and asked him where he got the jacket he took off running. so i had to chase him down. this guy filled out that 2x so getting him undercontrol took longer then i wanted. but i got him down and did a simple blood choke to get him unconsious long enuf to all the cops on my cell. well in the mean time the guy is unconsious from the choke. then some bystander, who works at the club but didnt reconize me for some reason, runs up and sprays me with pepper spray. so there i am trying to keep that guy from bleedin on my fleece while he is coming too, and trying to calm the guy that sprayed me with pepper spray, and breath with that shit in my lungs. needless to say the cops came and hauled the guy off to jail. they found 4 cdplayers, 1 phone, and a bunch of odds and ends stashed where i had caught up to him at.
the cops treated me like a king, it was great. the guy went to jail for assult on me, and b and e. it was great, i think its my one civic duity i have done. it was much more satisfing then breaking up fights and stuff liek that at the club. its also the first time i have used my training on a sober person, and the very first time with some one who has nothing to lose. lesson learned, criminals put up more fight then anyone else. i guess its the whole havign nothing to lose aspect. ok long story but yeah feeling like batman was kinda fun. gg man way to bust them theivs asses

[Curtis]

Oh yeah. Tofu because Nellie and I are true blue vegans.

[papee]

Just Like Arnold. Your saying would be better though.
Hear them sirens, they're comin for you boy.
Good work. Would like a pic of you and the gun in front of the burb. A hat would make it. Good job... did ya go to the wife then and say... grab my hand.....

[Paul Gagnon]

This thread made me smile. Good job Curtis, you da man!

[fj40john]

when i read the title, and started reading the story...i thought, this is a pretty damned long joke...then figured out you were serious. I thought the guy might have been a freakin wacko and been jumping from the trees in the orchard yelling that he was batman!!!!:eek:

good job man...and i KNOW you got some after saving her from the scissor guy...COME AWN!!!! :flipoff2:

[Jeepmangled87]

fawking bad ass man, way to go at least you fawked there car up.:D

[YellowSub1962]

Originally posted by Curtis


I keep telling you guys I'm NOT a Liberal ;)


Liberals have been known to lie on occasion too :flipoff2:




glad you guys are allright, great job!


and think of the Bumper as a souvineer and hang it on the mantle:)


:usa:

[RMW]

evil doers beware :p (seriously tho - that kicks ass :beer: )

i imagine the call to 911 went something like this...

[synds9]

the whole time im thinking about that scene from american history x.. without the racial slurs of course.. good shit!

[bart1]

Love it!! :usa: :beer:

[Oxjockey]

:beer:

Great for you!

I agree, I need me one a dem shotgun thingies.

[DRM]

Curtis - I know the feeling man... your story is way better than my "I got drug around the parking lot by the car of the theif who stole my stereo" story - but the same principles apply - you pop into auto-pilot mode and start taking care of business. And boy - you took care of business :D:D:D

Way to go, glad Nellie is ok, and how you are not hurt too bad!

[79broncn]

My guess is you were already a little "pumped" from sittin' in the
doctor's waitin' room. :flipoff2:

Awesome story and you handled yourself very well indeed. Props,
man.;)

I can't believe I'm gonna say this but we need more ppl in this
country like you. Nice work. :beer:

[Drunk tank]

I think you should of done some little victor yell once you caught them... kinda like terry tate

WOOO WOOO!!! YOU CAN'T STOP THE TRAIN BABY!!!!

[R O]

That's awesome Curtis,Nellie will really be giving you the "googally" eye's now!

[WertyzMom]

RIGHT THE FAWK ON CURTIS !!

It doesn't matter whether you dress right or left...You have the BALLS to protect You & Yours from harm!

:D Three Cheers from all of us here! :beer: :beer: :beer: ;)

[Mo]

here I was thinking we were going to see compromising pics of your wife in a Bat-Man halloween costume....




Good job Curtis.


:vader:

[offroadr35]

Originally posted by Curtis
Oh yeah. Tofu because Nellie and I are true blue vegans.

wow, a vegan that's not a pussy...who knew?? :flipoff2:

[nakona]

So... did you make the newspaper?

[JoeMama]

Curtis-

My hat is off to you man. I commend you not only for your bravery, but your self control. Had I been in the same situation, after realizing that the SOB just robbed me AND threatened my wife's life on his way out... with any weapon at my disposal.... I'm not sure I would have taken your same approach. Personally, I think I'd pretty much loose it if I witnessed the same situation.

Way to go. Its folks like you that we need to put on the 5 o'clock news and give awards to. Cheers! :beer:

-Dan

[evenBIGGERrock]

So does this mean they'll make a movie out of it next, followed by you running for state gov.?

Just kidding.

Right awn man. Gotta love it when you actually get to see cosmic justice being served up in 12 course fashion.:D

That killed me ".....I'm fawking BATMAN" :laughing:

[SilverZuk]

Good job Curtis,

1. Next time you see a vehicle in your driveway - block it in.
2. Don't wander into your house unarmed once you saw it had been broken into.

I would assume anyone that got into my house was armed and probably shot them on site if they didn't obey the first "STOP" command.

[Entropy]

That SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO kicks serious ass!

:beer:

[Sully]

Hats off to you Curtis, good job man!

[HighToy]

too cool!

[ScottFJ40]

You FAWKIN ROCK! :D

[MudzerK5]

I thought you were screwing Batman, but...


Way to Go Man! That's a Killer story. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. Kick Ass...:D

[Franklin]

Kick ass job Curtis. Glad it turned out ok.

[IndyCJ]

Great job dude!

It's good to hear that sometimes, the good guys do win!


Where's the Curtis/Batman chop? Come awn, who's got the skills?

Glad everyone is ok!

[Schly]

Sawwwwweeeeetttt!!!

[Bobzooki]

Originally posted by Curtis
I realized I'm my own hero right now. Don't fawk with me :D

Damn, you're your own hero, AND you're fawking Batman? I thought Batman preferred younger boys! :eek:

OK, good job! :D

[Curtis]

Yeah, yeah. The Batman part in the title didn't come off like it should have :flipoff2: :flipoff2: It's from an old Seinfeld episode where Kramer saves a girl's pinky toe (those who know the episode know what I mean)

Not sure if the local paper will have anything because it only comes out on Wed and Fri (small town crap). Nellie was going to call the paper here and the one in Chico, but I don't want to deal with that ;)

Anyway, suprisingly I'm not too sore today. I thought I wouldn't be able to get out of bed.

BTW-Didn't win the Lotto yesterday dammit :(

[ChiXJeff]

Originally posted by Curtis
BTW-Didn't win the Lotto yesterday dammit :(

<snort> Lessee........ tagging the perps who burgled your home and threatened your wife....... that's NOT hitting the jackpot?

Good for ya. You showed far more restraint that I probably would have.

[mudmaid]

:eek: wow! great job!!

[mike]

Way to go Curtis! :D :beer:

and for the record I was laughing at the seinfeld reference ;)

[Haole]

Originally posted by Drunk tank
I think you should of done some little victor yell once you caught them... kinda like terry tate

WOOO WOOO!!! YOU CAN'T STOP THE TRAIN BABY!!!!

That would have been funny.

[trampas]

Dammat Curt! :p

I thought i'd seen every Seinfeld episode, now i have to watch the fucking reruns until i see that one! :flipoff2: ;)

[MattS]

Maybe Curtis CAN kick DRM's ass. :eek: :flipoff2:

[Haole]

Originally posted by MattS
Maybe Curtis CAN kick DRM's ass. :eek: :flipoff2:

Well, dammit someone needs to.:D :flipoff2:

[VT_Toy]

Way to go! :beer:

You should go along with getting in the local papers, it'd be good to show the bad guys what they'll get for messing with good folks :evil: It'd also be good for showing the liberals who want to take away your right to defend yourself why it's important to be armed.

[iamjacob]

Congrats on catching the bad guys! Hopefully they get as much time as they deserve!

Did he call out "ROBIN!!!" at climax?:flipoff2:

[Jeddi]

http://web.netbul.com/cocuk/images/themes/yeni/batman.jpg

[Curtis]

I made the Chico ER, and not only that but am the first story on page ONE. Jeepers. Of course they got some things wrong like saying I kicked his hand. I kicked the guy in the head and knocked him out again ;)

http://www.chicoer.com

[rockota]

Curtis - you are a Hero.... That's all there is to say.

From the article:
Capay man captures pair who burglarized his home
By GREG WELTER - Staff Writer

CAPAY Burglars may want to think twice before they plan to victimize Curtis Machlan again.

Machlan, 41, and his wife Nellie returned to their Malton Switch Road home just before noon Wednesday to find their dogs loose in the yard and a strange car in the driveway with the motor running.

Machlan figured it was somebody looking for the previous residents of the home, but quickly concluded he was being robbed when he went inside and found his DVD player lying on the kitchen floor.

He hustled back to his Chevrolet Suburban to call police on a cell phone. He placed the call, then stood by the running car, willing to confront any fleeing suspects.

He then realized that his wife had gone into the house. She told him a young man had confronted her in the back yard and said something like, Are you sure you want to die, lady, and brandished what she thought was a weapon.

Tehama County Sheriffs deputies later recovered a pair of scissors from the suspects pocket.

The suspect somehow got to his car and began fleeing through an olive orchard next to the couples home. Machlan, who says he suffers from fibromyalgia, grabbed his loaded shotgun and gave chase on foot.

He knew there was only one way out of the orchard, so he went back to his vehicle and drove it into position to block the burglars escape.

Meanwhile, the suspect stopped to pick up a woman in the orchard, later determined to be an accomplice.

As the suspects headed for Malton Road, Machlan swung in behind them in his Suburban. When they slowed down, he rammed the rear of their car, a Mazda hatchback, at full throttle.

I didnt want to take any chances that they would fight me or pull a gun on me, so I went for it, Machlan said.

The impact totaled the Mazda and temporarily knocked out both people inside. Though hurt himself, Machlan grabbed his shotgun and scrambled to the suspects car.

As he got there, the driver was just regaining consciousness and started to reach for something in his pocket.

Machlan said he kicked the suspects hand away hard and told him not to move, all the while keeping his shotgun trained on the inside of the car.

Deputies arrived within about five minutes and arrested an unidentified 15-year-old Hispanic male the driver and 28-year-old Silviera Melo, a female believed to be involved in the burglary.

Both suspects and Machlan were taken by ambulance to a local hospital and treated for injuries. Machlan said he had just come from a physical therapy session and the collision aggravated his condition.

The teen-ager was booked into the Juvenile Justice Center in Red Bluff. The woman was charged with burglary and booked into the Tehama County Jail in Red Bluff with bail set at $25,000.

Machlan said if the incident had just been a burglary, he might not have chased the suspects. When he learned that his wifes life had been threatened, he said it made him mad enough to act.

Deputies recovered the couples video camera, a digital camera and miscellaneous food items from the Mazda.

Machlan said he was surprised to learn the male was only 15. When I asked him his age, at gunpoint, he told me he was 19, Machlan said.

The Machlans have only lived in their Capay-area home for about six months, but its already been very eventful.

Curtis said while standing near some railroad tracks during a freak storm last summer, lightning struck a metal gate and was deflected into his body.

[ShawnM]

umm, curious as to why you added this:

"Curtis said while standing near some railroad tracks during a freak storm last summer, lightning struck a metal gate and was deflected into his body."

[rockota]

Originally posted by ShawnM
umm, curious as to why you added this:

"Curtis said while standing near some railroad tracks during a freak storm last summer, lightning struck a metal gate and was deflected into his body."

Me? It's in the article... :confused:

[mike]

perhaps that should be addressed to the author ;) Nice article Curtis :D Even my wife got a kick outa it.

[DemoMike]

Originally posted by Curtis
I made the Chico ER, and not only that but am the first story on page ONE. Jeepers. Of course they got some things wrong like saying I kicked his hand. I kicked the guy in the head and knocked him out again ;)

http://www.chicoer.com

Nice "picture"

[Curtis]

Yeah, I don't know why he added that. We were just talking and he said that yesterday made for an eventful time since we moved in here back in June. I told him he didn't know the half of it and went on to tell him about my dog getting attacked by another dog that ended in a broken leg, that I had a really bad down turn with my illness and spent over a month in bed and had a severe neck spasm I was just finished with tharapy when I got home Wed. He asked what the spasm was from and I told him it was associated with the lightning strike. I guess he thought it made for good drama or something :rolleyes:

[ShawnM]

Originally posted by rockota


Me? It's in the article... :confused:

Yeah you!! Mofo! You got a problem here or sumthin'?? :flipoff2:

I meant him. ;)

[Oxjockey]

http://media.mnginteractive.com/media/paper135/20031023_NWS_NEWS1.JPG

Charles Orgovan of Paradise points out the area where he stored a canister of an explosive substance outside his home for more than four years. (Bill Husa/Enterprise-Record)

:confused:

[DemoMike]

Originally posted by Oxjockey

quote:
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Charles Orgovan of Paradise points out the area where he stored a canister of an explosive substance outside his home for more than four years. (Bill Husa/Enterprise-Record)
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:confused:




That's what I'm talking about:confused:

[nakona]

I like how in the paper it says you kicked his HAND.

Good job.

[VT_Toy]

Wow, I thought you were younger! Just shows how perceptions can be skewed on this here internet :p

[fj40guy]

Way to go!!!

Uh, are you in the middle of an almond orchid?

First time I have heard of anyone who actually LIVES in CAPAY!
My uncle had an almond orchid for years up there (back when the town had one gas station, and three bars. Gas station went out of business).

So have you meet any of the Read's or Tadlock's in the area! :)

Only one of the old family who lives up there... my cousin Connie... she moved to BROOK! :)

Tom :usa:

[RMW]

Originally posted by VT_Toy
Wow, I thought you were younger! Just shows how perceptions can be skewed on this here internet :p

you're not the only one ;)

[LunarWolf]

Comin' in off the range and do not have the gumpshun to figure it all out.

So do tell - who got robbed? Who fawked Batman? And what color underwear does send flying winged homo sapiens wear?

Is the Batmobile 4wheel?

[Curtis]

I called the writer and he said he put I kicked the guy in the hand because he didn't want to put anything in print that could come back at me? Kinda stupid because I'm happy I kicked him in the head. I really thought he was going for a weapon, and it knocked him back out.

He doesn't know what happened on the caption from the pic. Who knows? Chico is a small town afterall ;)

Another thing is I live in Orland not Capay. Yet another screw up? And, it's an olive orchard. If it were almonds I'd be much "larger" than I am :D

Oh, I'm 41. I just look older :flipoff2:

[trampas]

Ha ha great article score there Curtis! :D

Almost verbatim to your first post in this thread... they at least did a nice job of not editing the crap out of it like they would've in a larger city. ;)

Save that little article as a time capsule for you to gander at when you're REALLY an old timer, uhh? :D

[dieseltoy]

this deserves a BTT. Here ya go batman!

[Spawn_X]

a :smokin: for you mang. props.



why didn't u jump into the 4x4 to ram'em?

ths reminds me that i need to further bullet proof the front end of the truck for ramming capabilities.. :confused: :flipoff2:

[Kim~]

Nice thread revival....I love a good hero story :D

[ROKN ZJ]

Curtis, did they ever try and sue you?

[4runner]

uh...why didn't you just take the cars keys OUT when you got there?

[TUFFTORQ]

Just what this great country needs...a little more street justice! Great Job! But the crooks right. He'll get his three meals a day, cable television, free membership to a gym to get pumped for his next venture when he gets out and a bed with fresh sheets. All at the expense of us, the hard working folks. If it were only possible to use that .02 shell to end thievery?

[DaGimp]

This makes me want to get an old burb...

Kick ass curtis.

[Shadow man]

uh...why didn't you just take the cars keys OUT when you got there?
If he did that he wouldn't have had the pleasure of crashing them out and a giving a kick to the head. Geez, where is your forethought? :D

[derek]

this should be in the classics forum. :p :cool2:

derek

[ForestCam]

Did you ever get the pics of the aftermath?

[Explorer]

This is the first time I saw this thread. Good job Curtis! Score one for the good guyshttp://www.explorerforum.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

[DMG]

Good job Curtis!

Why didn't you start a seperate thread about your relationship with batman? :flipoff2:

[bigredram97]

youre the man..would have been fun as hell

[dinks]

i'm not trying to rain on your parade, but aren't you trying to become a police officer? seems like you did exactly what police officers frown on. you get into a car chase with them, have a loaded firearm in the vehicle and then you ram their car to stop them. your lucky that you didn't end up in handcuffs. the only time you can use force is if they are a direct threat to you IN YOUR HOME. lets say you encountered them in your house, they run and you shoot them as they are fleeing, you become the criminal. if you want to be a police officer, you should be able to control your emotions better than that. i understand that you were pissed because this guy just threatened your wife, but if you want to be in law enforcement, you have to believe in the justice system and not take the law in to your own hands.

[Firefyter_Emt]

Your username fits, I see...

[Curtis]

this deserves a BTT. Here ya go batman!

Thanks :flipoff2:


Curtis, did they ever try and sue you?

Nope. They plead guilty and the courts up here don't play those games.

uh...why didn't you just take the cars keys OUT when you got there?

I thought the car was someone visiting or looking for the previous residents. I did not anticipate being robbed ;)


a :smokin: for you mang. props.



why didn't u jump into the 4x4 to ram'em?

ths reminds me that i need to further bullet proof the front end of the truck for ramming capabilities.. :confused: :flipoff2:
I did. The 4x4 Suburban ;) My Scout would not have chased them down like it did :D


Did you ever get the pics of the aftermath?

Pics in the thread are all I have :( Didn't get any of the Geo Storm, BUT I am trying to get a copy of the 9-11 tape and the photos now that I am applying for cop positions. I figure they'd be perfect to show how I can keep totally cool in an intense out of control situation. If I get the tape, I'll post up a mp3 of it :D

i'm not trying to rain on your parade, but aren't you trying to become a police officer?
Sorry, but wrong. I already spoke to my TO about it, and he thinks it is going to be the NUMBER one thing that will get me a job. The reason is I didn't get pissed, it wasn't enhanced by anger or anything irrational. It was done because I was protecting my home (he never left my property even on chase), and I wanted to do my best to get a bad guy off the streets. I even put the trigger lock back on the gun once the officers were on the way, put the gun on the hood and backed away. Of course I was telling them through 9-11 exactly what I was doing while doing it too.

Every cop there, including the Sheriff's Capitan, shook my hand, patted me on the back, hugged me, etc. The DA called and thanked me and said they wished there were more people like me (able to keep a cool head and do what needs getting done).

Now, if I remember, you are a cop. Thank GOD you didn't show up on scene if that is the attituded you would have brought with you. :shaking:

[dinks]

Sorry, but wrong. I already spoke to my TO about it, and he thinks it is going to be the NUMBER one thing that will get me a job. The reason is I didn't get pissed, it wasn't enhanced by anger or anything irrational. It was done because I was protecting my home (he never left my property even on chase), and I wanted to do my best to get a bad guy off the streets. I even put the trigger lock back on the gun once the officers were on the way, put the gun on the hood and backed away. Of course I was telling them through 9-11 exactly what I was doing while doing it too.

Every cop there, including the Sheriff's Capitan, shook my hand, patted me on the back, hugged me, etc. The DA called and thanked me and said they wished there were more people like me (able to keep a cool head and do what needs getting done).

Now, if I remember, you are a cop. Thank GOD you didn't show up on scene if that is the attituded you would have brought with you. :shaking:[/QUOTE]

i don't even know how to respond to you on this one. if you, the sherriff's dept, and the DA' s office think that you did the right thing, then you are in a ass backwards county. hopefully if you ever become a "brother in blue" you don't have to deal with something like this. maybe next time this happens(because its ok in your county) the chase will end up in someone being shot. lets face it, not everyone is calm as you, and may let ther emotion take control. if it ok for you to chase someone down with your car, then its ok for the next person to chase them down, right? :shaking:

[Curtis]

i don't even know how to respond to you on this one. if you, the sherriff's dept, and the DA' s office think that you did the right thing, then you are in a ass backwards county. hopefully if you ever become a "brother in blue" you don't have to deal with something like this. maybe next time this happens(because its ok in your county) the chase will end up in someone being shot. lets face it, not everyone is calm as you, and may let ther emotion take control. if it ok for you to chase someone down with your car, then its ok for the next person to chase them down, right? :shaking:

Just telling you what I was told and the way the guys in uniform responded to the entire event. Also, keep in mind the chase never left my property (his car did end up off the property when I rammed him).

[gipper]

btw curtis, it doesn't matter if they did get off your property. You can use reasonable force to apprehend a fleeing felon. Wrecking their car in this situation was perfectly fine. I dont' know what this guy's problem is.

[Curtis]

btw curtis, it doesn't matter if they did get off your property. You can use reasonable force to apprehend a fleeing felon. Wrecking their car in this situation was perfectly fine. I dont' know what this guy's problem is.
I'm just being kind and trying to explain the situation to him, really. (Dink, I'm seriously NOT being a dick, but just trying to explain the situation)

Anyway, Gipper, I know there wasn't a problem and the 10 or so cops who showed up at the scene, the DA and the detectives and such I spoke to knew there wasn't a problem ;) To me, the bottom line remains you threaten to kill my wife, I take you down, period ;)

[payton]

i didnt read all they way thru.. so this may be a repost.. but you said the woman in the car was with a man who was not her husband.. correct?

if so you might want to watch your back for a while.. he may come looking for you. after all you did just fawk his wifes world all up.. so he may want some revenge.. and if hes any thing like she is. slashed tires.. busted windows.. or any number of things could happen...

btw...

great fucking job!~

[Quan]

Kickass curtis....

and dink, you're a dipshit. I'll be damned if you steal from me and threaten my family that you're gonna get off my property without getting a thorough ass kicking. And if a cop like you ever shows up at my house after an incident like that and tells me i'm in the wrong... i'll tell him to eat shit... It's called america mother fucker :flipoff:

[dinks]

I'm just being kind and trying to explain the situation to him, really. (Dink, I'm seriously NOT being a dick, but just trying to explain the situation)

Anyway, Gipper, I know there wasn't a problem and the 10 or so cops who showed up at the scene, the DA and the detectives and such I spoke to knew there wasn't a problem ;) To me, the bottom line remains you threaten to kill my wife, I take you down, period ;)

ok, i'm done with this thread. i can gaurantee(sp) that if took a poll of real police officer, you thinking would be in the minority. i spoke with numerous other police officers and they agree that what you did was wrong. everyone said that you stepped out of line when you rammed them with you truck, then proceed to boot stomp them afterwards. this is just mine and a few other law enforcement officer opions. so go about your day and hopefully you never have to deal with a real sitution such as this.

[cptyarderho]

2nd vote for classics section...

[Pazuzu]

ok, i'm done with this thread. i can gaurantee(sp) that if took a poll of real police officer, you thinking would be in the minority.


WHERE'S badkarma88??? He'll solve this issue!!! :shaking:

[trainrech]

Hey Dinks!

Given that of the six pages here you are the only one who would have handed the guy the keys to your house... go troll elsewhere.

There's no way that I would have handled myself as well as Curtis did. I'd be scared that there wouldn't need to be a 911 call. There would be no record of any attempted burglary happening and there would be no trace of the perp. after I finished with him/her...

[Curtis]

ok, i'm done with this thread. i can gaurantee(sp) that if took a poll of real police officer, you thinking would be in the minority. i spoke with numerous other police officers and they agree that what you did was wrong. everyone said that you stepped out of line when you rammed them with you truck, then proceed to boot stomp them afterwards. this is just mine and a few other law enforcement officer opions. so go about your day and hopefully you never have to deal with a real sitution such as this.

Boot stomp? Give me a break already (now you are being a dick and I've tried to be nice). Read it again. I kicked him in the head ONCE when he went for a weapon. That's far from boot stomping.

Oh, Trainrech's post reminded me. I was on 9-11 with the operator and cops the entire time. Before I rammed them, they gave me permission too.

Dink, I've tried to be nice, really, but it really seems you are one of those cops who think you are god's gift to mankind and "regular" civilians should bow down to your authority and never try to protect themselves or their's. Kinda sad really.

[Curtis]

i didnt read all they way thru.. so this may be a repost.. but you said the woman in the car was with a man who was not her husband.. correct?

if so you might want to watch your back for a while.. he may come looking for you. after all you did just fawk his wifes world all up.. so he may want some revenge.. and if hes any thing like she is. slashed tires.. busted windows.. or any number of things could happen...

btw...

great fucking job!~

Thanks man. Here's the funny thing about the husband. The woman was running off with this guy. They were on their way out of state. She was leaving behind her husband and a kid. So, he told the cops he was sorry she didn't end up in the hospital extremely hurt, and he didn't bail her out. So, I don't think I have to worry about him ;)

[HighToy]

I know MANY officers who loved this story and found nothing wrong with it at all. My great uncle was Chief of police in a town in So Cal and he also loved this story and wished there were more people willing to take a stand and not pussy out. I agree it could have turned out differently and someone could have gotten shot but that's the risk you take when your life and the lives of your loved one's are threatened.

[payton]

Thanks man. Here's the funny thing about the husband. The woman was running off with this guy. They were on their way out of state. She was leaving behind her husband and a kid. So, he told the cops he was sorry she didn't end up in the hospital extremely hurt, and he didn't bail her out. So, I don't think I have to worry about him ;)
thats cool.. i wasnt sure.. i skimmed thru a few post and didnt see anything but the husband.. so i wasnt sure where he was.. look at it this way you just helped him get custody of there child for ever!

payton

[imgonnasnap]

ok, i'm done with this thread. i can gaurantee(sp) that if took a poll of real police officer, you thinking would be in the minority. i spoke with numerous other police officers and they agree that what you did was wrong. everyone said that you stepped out of line when you rammed them with you truck, then proceed to boot stomp them afterwards. this is just mine and a few other law enforcement officer opions. so go about your day and hopefully you never have to deal with a real sitution such as this.

That is what will be the death of our country. those who say we shouldn't do anything, we should sit back and let the theifs do their thing. The police will come and do a report, maybe make an extra drive around the block for secuirty issues, but probably will never lead to anything. and hey, we have insurance, they will pay for it! So, as we sit by and let this happen, these people go on thinking this is OKAY to do. shit, it must be okay, you (we accumilatively) keep letting it happen. I think we need more people to do what curtis did, and if he had shot the theif (whether this situation or another) it would have only better taught them a lesson.

[Schly]

That is what will be the death of our country. those who say we shouldn't do anything, we should sit back and let the theifs do their thing. The police will come and do a report, maybe make an extra drive around the block for secuirty issues, but probably will never lead to anything. and hey, we have insurance, they will pay for it! So, as we sit by and let this happen, these people go on thinking this is OKAY to do. shit, it must be okay, you (we accumilatively) keep letting it happen. I think we need more people to do what curtis did, and if he had shot the theif (whether this situation or another) it would have only better taught them a lesson.

Exactly.

There's the "right thing" and there's the "legal thing" to do. Sadly, here in CA, they are FAR, FAR apart.

[dinks]

Boot stomp? Give me a break already (now you are being a dick and I've tried to be nice). Read it again. I kicked him in the head ONCE when he went for a weapon. That's far from boot stomping.

Oh, Trainrech's post reminded me. I was on 9-11 with the operator and cops the entire time. Before I rammed them, they gave me permission too.

Dink, I've tried to be nice, really, but it really seems you are one of those cops who think you are god's gift to mankind and "regular" civilians should bow down to your authority and never try to protect themselves or their's. Kinda sad really.

i tried to stay away, but i couldn't. here's my response .
1st- you said that he "went for a weapon" after waking up from the ramming. so, the guy was out of it, right? so you proceed to kick him in the head while you have a fucking loaded shotgun pointed at him! i don't know about you, but if someone has a loaded shotgun on me, i'm gonna comply, period.

2nd- you said the 911 operator gave you permission to ram the car. in all my years in and around law enforcement i have never seen or heard of such ridiculous statement. but, i wasn't there, maybe thats the way your small town S.O. works. this just seems far fetched.

3rd- you say that "i'm gods gift too mankind" and that regular citizens should never protect themselves, right? i whole heartedly believe that ALL citizens have the right to protect themselves, in thier homes. you cannot chase someone onto a public road, with a loaded shotgun, and ram the car to a stop. what would you have done, if in the heat of the moment, you didn't see a car with children in it and YOU caused an accident? i relize that this didn't happen, but what if( i know that we could "what if" this to death)

i know that people on here may think that i'm an asswipe, but in my opion you crossed the line when you chased them with a loaded shot gun then rammed thier car. now had you encountered this puke sack in you house and you had to shoot him, then so be it, and you would be getting a "atta boy" from me.

i was never trying to be a "dick" or piss anyone off, i was just stating my opion.

[Sully]

i tried to stay away, but i couldn't. here's my response .
1st- you said that he "went for a weapon" after waking up from the ramming. so, the guy was out of it, right? so you proceed to kick him in the head while you have a fucking loaded shotgun pointed at him! i don't know about you, but if someone has a loaded shotgun on me, i'm gonna comply, period.

2nd- you said the 911 operator gave you permission to ram the car. in all my years in and around law enforcement i have never seen or heard of such ridiculous statement. but, i wasn't there, maybe thats the way your small town S.O. works. this just seems far fetched.

3rd- you say that "i'm gods gift too mankind" and that regular citizens should never protect themselves, right? i whole heartedly believe that ALL citizens have the right to protect themselves, in thier homes. you cannot chase someone onto a public road, with a loaded shotgun, and ram the car to a stop. what would you have done, if in the heat of the moment, you didn't see a car with children in it and YOU caused an accident? i relize that this didn't happen, but what if( i know that we could "what if" this to death)

i know that people on here may think that i'm an asswipe, but in my opion you crossed the line when you chased them with a loaded shot gun then rammed thier car. now had you encountered this puke sack in you house and you had to shoot him, then so be it, and you would be getting a "atta boy" from me.

i was never trying to be a "dick" or piss anyone off, i was just stating my opion.


You are a fawking retard.

And if I ever meet Curtis in person, I will buy him a beer based solely on this story alone.

[InstaGator]

you cannot chase someone onto a public road, with a loaded shotgun, and ram the car to a stop. what would you have done, if in the heat of the moment, you didn't see a car with children in it and YOU caused an accident?


What if these asswipes got away and raped a few kids? The only thing he did wrong was call 911, He should have just done everything else and bury the bodies to save some tax payers money.

[Quan]

you cannot chase someone onto a public road, with a loaded shotgun, and ram the car to a stop. what would you have done, if in the heat of the moment, you didn't see a car with children in it and YOU caused an accident?


again retard... did he not state already it was not a public road?

[CannonBall]

First the legend of the rubicon rescue of my busted jeep, and now this. You are a real hero. Good job!
-Nate

[gipper]

Exactly.

There's the "right thing" and there's the "legal thing" to do. Sadly, here in CA, they are FAR, FAR apart.
actually, that's the majority view. You can't use deadly force to protect property. You can only use deadly force to end the threat of imminent death to you or someone else. Now, if he had blasted the dude when he pointed the 'gun' (scissors) at ole wifey, then that would have been more than justified.

[gipper]

i tried to stay away, but i couldn't. here's my response .
1st- you said that he "went for a weapon" after waking up from the ramming. so, the guy was out of it, right? so you proceed to kick him in the head while you have a fucking loaded shotgun pointed at him! i don't know about you, but if someone has a loaded shotgun on me, i'm gonna comply, period.

2nd- you said the 911 operator gave you permission to ram the car. in all my years in and around law enforcement i have never seen or heard of such ridiculous statement. but, i wasn't there, maybe thats the way your small town S.O. works. this just seems far fetched.

3rd- you say that "i'm gods gift too mankind" and that regular citizens should never protect themselves, right? i whole heartedly believe that ALL citizens have the right to protect themselves, in thier homes. you cannot chase someone onto a public road, with a loaded shotgun, and ram the car to a stop. what would you have done, if in the heat of the moment, you didn't see a car with children in it and YOU caused an accident? i relize that this didn't happen, but what if( i know that we could "what if" this to death)

i know that people on here may think that i'm an asswipe, but in my opion you crossed the line when you chased them with a loaded shot gun then rammed thier car. now had you encountered this puke sack in you house and you had to shoot him, then so be it, and you would be getting a "atta boy" from me.

i was never trying to be a "dick" or piss anyone off, i was just stating my opion.
so you're saying that if you or someone's else's life is threatened by someone who purports to have a gun you should drop your gun and chase them unarmed? What f'g school of police OR common sense did you graduate from?

[DMG]

ok, i'm done with this thread. i can gaurantee(sp) that if took a poll of real police officer, you thinking would be in the minority. i spoke with numerous other police officers and they agree that what you did was wrong. everyone said that you stepped out of line when you rammed them with you truck, then proceed to boot stomp them afterwards. this is just mine and a few other law enforcement officer opions. so go about your day and hopefully you never have to deal with a real sitution such as this.

If that is really your opinion I am quite disappointed. How can you expect crime victims to just take it and not react to defend themselves/loved ones/property? When I lived in CA my truck was robbed 3 times and the cops wouldn't even come out and take a report. They said I would never see my stuff again.
If I had the opportunity to take the law into my own hands I certainly would have done so since there are about 1000 criminals for every cop in CA and you guys are never around when the crime is happening.
Remember, on private property the homeowner is in charge, not you or the criminal.

[SSSRodeo]

Originally Posted by dinks
ok, i'm done with this thread. i can gaurantee(sp) that if took a poll of real police officer, you thinking would be in the minority. i spoke with numerous other police officers and they agree that what you did was wrong. everyone said that you stepped out of line when you rammed them with you truck, then proceed to boot stomp them afterwards. this is just mine and a few other law enforcement officer opions. so go about your day and hopefully you never have to deal with a real sitution such as this.

If that is really your opinion I am quite disappointed. How can you expect crime victims to just take it and not react to defend themselves/loved ones/property? When I lived in CA my truck was robbed 3 times and the cops wouldn't even come out and take a report. They said I would never see my stuff again.
If I had the opportunity to take the law into my own hands I certainly would have done so since there are about 1000 criminals for every cop in CA and you guys are never around when the crime is happening.
Remember, on private property the homeowner is in charge, not you or the criminal.

I'm with the Majority here. Had I been in that situation I'm afraid I'd be pumping shells at the car until I ran out of ammo. There would not have been a need to call 9-11 because a shovel and a can of gasoline would have burned the evidence of their existence.

As for Dinks view point I feel it may be his training that has him critiziting you with out really reading the details. Surely you folks realize that the NEW LEO'S are insulted when someone tries to do their jobs for them. They are threatened. What if everyone stood up for themselves. Would we need so many LEO's. There is a propensity to turn this Country into a Police State starting in California. Everytime I see a S.W.A.T. team on TV I think of the Nazi Storm Troopers. If S.W.A.T. is really necessesary then something is seriously wrong with this country. I know a lot of good LEO's, and like most of them. But it's those Cops with the "I'm the Boss" here attitude that make me wonder about where we're headed with this. I was brought up believing that the Police Departments are there to protect the public. Not to Bully and Force some incomprehensible law down my throat.
Now just so we under stand. I'm not blaming the Police Departments for the Countrys problem. As citizens we should have done a better job in raising our children to repect other peoples property and nurture right to feel safe wherever we may be. Our society has turned into a cesspool of human depravity. People are too lazy to work. They don't have too. The Government will bail them out. And the hard working Tax Payers are footing the expense. I say Welfare Program should be for those who are too sick or old to work who don't have a Family left to take care of them. Stop giving people the false beliefe that they DESERVE to have anything they want. To hell with that. If they do not work, then neither do they eat. Put the freebie burden back on the Families. Let the realtives take care of those relatives who are unwilling to provide for themselves. Government Assistance should only kick in as an assistance probram, not a free ride.
We need Police Departments because of the Society we have allowed to come into being. But, what we don't need is more Police with Attitude.

Curtis, you done good. Glad you wern't hurt and was able to defend your property from the Lazy Bastards. Me, I'd have shot the SOB, half unconsious or not ,when he moved for the item in his pocket he threated your wifes life with. How would I know if he was half awake or not. Sorry Officer, He was reaching for a weapon. And he was a lot younger and stronger than you. Your illness gives you the right to level the playing field.

Ok, enough! Sorry I got carried away on this. I have been taking care of my 50 year old brother since 1995 because of his bad back. He's disabled, and divorced twice, but still there is work he can do to help me with his expenses. Yea, he's a pain in the ass, bitches all the time and smokes even though he can't afford it. But, he's my Brother, it's my job to help him. He doesn't have a free ride here either. Oh, and the Government doesn't contribute a dime either. Just so ya'll know where I'm coming from.

CurtisJ (the other Curtis)

[Curtis]

i tried to stay away, but i couldn't. here's my response .
1st- you said that he "went for a weapon" after waking up from the ramming. so, the guy was out of it, right? so you proceed to kick him in the head while you have a fucking loaded shotgun pointed at him! i don't know about you, but if someone has a loaded shotgun on me, i'm gonna comply, period.
Not only did he reach into his pocket for what were actually LARGE sewing scissors (a weapon is a weapon), but he was continually pushing the shotgun to the side and swearing in Spanish (yes I speak Spanish). YOU may be compliant, but not everyone is, and a very quick review of any of the cops shows on the old tele will show that :rolleyes:


2nd- you said the 911 operator gave you permission to ram the car. in all my years in and around law enforcement i have never seen or heard of such ridiculous statement. but, i wasn't there, maybe thats the way your small town S.O. works. this just seems far fetched.
When I told her he was fleeing in his car and said I was going to give chase, she said "okay". I continued to speak to her the entire time explaining I was driving through the trees on my property. When I made it to the side road, I told her I was on the side road. When I spotted the car coming through the trees, I said "I am going to ram him to stop him." She said, "Okay, that's fine." Not at ANY point did she say to stop. If she had, I would have stopped my pursuit, period. Also, keep in mind she was talking to the officers on their way. NO ONE said to shut it down. But, all in all the chase lasted all of maybe 90 seconds if that.


3rd- you say that "i'm gods gift too mankind" and that regular citizens should never protect themselves, right? i whole heartedly believe that ALL citizens have the right to protect themselves, in thier homes. you cannot chase someone onto a public road, with a loaded shotgun, and ram the car to a stop. what would you have done, if in the heat of the moment, you didn't see a car with children in it and YOU caused an accident? i relize that this didn't happen, but what if( i know that we could "what if" this to death)
And, what if I had monkeys flying out my ass? Yes, you are trying to what if it to death.
Look. You do not know me. You do not know I do not lose my cool. Sure those are just words here on PBB, but let me promise you I do not lose my cool, and this was NOT the first time I detained someone until cops arrived.