Looking for an engine alternative

[ISuz4x4]

Currently have '94 LS Isuzu Rodeo (205K miles)/ 3.2L v6 4x4. Will need to repair or replace engine soon. Considering Lexus or Toyota options for the vehicle. Would like to know the largest and most powerful engine that will meet the requirements. Have considered changing the transmission as well but do not know which engine and transmission combinations will work :) Looking for a 5 speed manual or 6 speed manual option

Thanks

[lttlbddy]

I think one of these would be the Shitz:
http://www.lttlbddy.com/albums/Misc/DetroitSeries60.jpg

[Roksamy]

I referred this guy over here , hook him up , I know a couple of you Isuzu guys know your $h|t.

[lttlbddy]

Yeah, but Toyota, Lexus? Skies the limit. He can do what he wants. If he is looking for bolt in, then get another 3.2 Isuzu. If he is looking for something else, it is a major motor swap with tranny, wiring harness etc.

Give us something to work with.

I do thing the Series 60 would provide lots of low end torque :flipoff2: AND it meets the large and powerful request.

I figured I would at least draw some attention to the post.

[Andre75]

Like Littlbddy said, there is not much out there, especially in the "powerfull" department, that will bolt up to the stock tranny, which uses the GM 60* bolt patern. I don't know of anyone who has adapted the Isuzu T-case to anything other than the stock tranny, so, you're pretty much looking at a complete drivetrain swap. That being the case, you can make just about anything work, and it depends on your preference and expereince with a particular motor.

With a full drivetrain swap, it's pretty much all going to be custom, since there are no kits around.

[maxwell417]

4.0 Jeep 6 suposedly bolts up to a gm 60*. Powerful .... 4.7 stroker kits anyone?

[lttlbddy]

One of the guys on 4x4wire.com is just finishing up bolting a 700R tranny to a 3.2 using the 60* GM pattern. The 3.2 has dual patterns.

But if you are going to the trouble to change out the motor, computer and harness, why would you keep the 4L30e tranny?

[Sniper X]

I have a 86 Trooper II turbo deisel, great on fuel, about 30-40mpg depending on throttle! But in the power department, not good when towing my trailer. I want to go to something with big V6 power that will tow my 2000 pound traIler with no problem, even on the freeway, so Ill be watching this thread big time! I read somewhere that advance adaptors makes an adaptor to install a small block or 90 degree chev V6 since it is the same mounting patt as the small block. , is this true?

[lttlbddy]

advance adaptors makes an adaptor

The adapter is out of production. This would allow an Isuzu 2.3/2.6 to be replaced with a Chevy 4.3.

[ISuz4x4]

Yeah, but Toyota, Lexus? Skies the limit. He can do what he wants. If he is looking for bolt in, then get another 3.2 Isuzu. If he is looking for something else, it is a major motor swap with tranny, wiring harness etc.

Give us something to work with.

I do thing the Series 60 would provide lots of low end torque :flipoff2: AND it meets the large and powerful request.

I figured I would at least draw some attention to the post.
Looking for a total upgrade package - different engine and tranny.

Considering
Engine: Lexus GX470 - don't know if the 470 will fit into the '94

Transmisssion: (5 or 6 speed manual transmission) - which one currently unknown

Problem
What ever engine / tranny combination used they must be able to mate together well

Will need special bell housing / housing adapter and all the other bells and wistles that go along. Can you help?

Thanks

[hy_desert_4wheeler]

how about a Caddillac Northstar for a small V8 or a shortstar for a V6.. you will still have wireing work to do but I believe that there is an aftermarket harnes for it and I am pretty sure it has the GM60 degree behousing pattern..

[lttlbddy]

Can you help?

Dude!! What do you want me to do? Come over and do it for you?

Toyota, Lexus? No one has done that and posted about it. If you want a engine/tranny that MUST mate together, pick a motor tranny combo that comes together and IS what you want. Base it on the dimensions that you know.

Here is your help: A Chevy 4.3 and a 700R will fit. A Chevy 350 and a turbo 350 will fit. Any V8 will push your radiator forward or your firewall back. Find out the dimensions of those and start comparing to what you THINK are your potential engines. If they are bigger than a 4.3/700r you will have more work to do to make them fit.

If you choose Toyota or Lexus, you will be trouble shooting mating the 2 wiring harnesses together. Well, that's true for anything other than swapping in another 3.2.

Sorry but there is no easy direction to give you here.

[kiwi_steve]

Dude!! What do you want me to do? Come over and do it for you?

Toyota, Lexus? No one has done that and posted about it. If you want a engine/tranny that MUST mate together, pick a motor tranny combo that comes together and IS what you want. Base it on the dimensions that you know.

Here is your help: A Chevy 4.3 and a 700R will fit. A Chevy 350 and a turbo 350 will fit. Any V8 will push your radiator forward or your firewall back. Find out the dimensions of those and start comparing to what you THINK are your potential engines. If they are bigger than a 4.3/700r you will have more work to do to make them fit.

If you choose Toyota or Lexus, you will be trouble shooting mating the 2 wiring harnesses together. Well, that's true for anything other than swapping in another 3.2.

Sorry but there is no easy direction to give you here.

Actually, there is... you just dont know it yet :)

The Lexus V8 is a hugely popular conversion here in NZ, and it can be easily mated to a Toyota 5-speed (W56 or G52 and I'm pretty sure the R15x as well).

The Lexus motor often comes with a complete loom and computer, and you can either wire that up or use a megasquirt or some other after market computer to run it. The 4WD versions often come with trans as well, which will work in the 'Zu if you find some way of offsetting the rear axle (RH side output for front and rear). However sounds like you want manual, and I'm not sure if they come with it... could be wrong tho.

Bellhousings, flywheels etc are all available here (made here) - let me know if you want me to arrange something for you - they're not cheap - probably going to cost you around $1000-1200US for the bell, flywheel and clutch.

Hope that gives you some food for thought.

Also, have you looked at the diesel options? The 4JG2-T that I run in mine (3.1 turbo diesel) is probably one of the quickest diesels I have run before... heaps of torque, passing power, and cheap to run (25ish MPG on 36"s)

Steve

[randii]

I'm happy to see new options available, but that's by no means an EASY one, even before you start to figure the complexities of international shipping.

The Toyota/Lexus V8 is a great motor, but wiring that bugger up won't be easy. Even if you can bolt a tranny to the backside of the block, there's plenty of work to follow.

I'd love it if a vendor would put together a repower kit for these trucks, but we haven't been able to interest anyone in that project yet -- probably because of the low volume.

Randii

[kiwi_steve]

I guess because the conversion is so popular here its seen as "easy". We don't have that many fords, chevs, etc here... mostly we work with the Jap stuff so a Lexus conversion, or a Supra conversion is considered easy... as is the 3.8 Buick motor (Holden motors here).

Wiring EFI up is no that hard if you know which wires to use... Or even easier if you use something like this and stay auto: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=60241403 Cos then you can just power up the existing comp and you're good to go.

ANY repower is going to have problems, if you're happy to go down the repower path then I guess you either already know that, or you are about to find out :laughing:

I'm not a vendor, since being overseas makes the whole sales thing a little tricky, although I do sell overseas... but I can supply the bellhousing, flywheel and clutch kit along with a Link computer - which is a very simple wire-up. Hope that statement doesn't get me in trouble with the powers that be :P

Steve

[randii]

Wiring EFI up is no that hard if you know which wires to use...
BTDT and disagree. :p

ANY repower is going to have problems, if you're happy to go down the repower path then I guess you either already know that, or you are about to find out :laughing:
I'll violently agree with you on that -- I knew what I was getting into and STILL I'm surprised.

Cool that you are willing to help out!

Randii