1.6turbo diesel adapter kits

[Joe Duke]

Does anybody know of any adapter kits for the vw 1.6 turbo diesel engine swap on the market? I have talked to Keltec mfg. and they dont have any plans of building anymore, they want to sell out. I talked to glen wakefield and he said they will probally start prducing some in 2 or 3 months??? Does anybody know what would be wrong with using a vw trans.instead of a samurai? Shure would save a lot of hassel. Thanks

[Zukinstein]

Roadlessgear.com is advertising one for around $250.00. I don't know if they have it in stock. Check them out. VW trans maybe too long or hard to fab up the clutch linkage? I thought all VW's had transaxles. Am I wrong? Don't really know anything about VW's.

[zuk88]

It's a adaptor plate to mount the VW motor to a Samurai trans. There is alot involved in the swap and many parts to hunt down from different VWs to do it right. You might want to contact Petroworks http://www.petroworks.com/homepage2.asp They built a oilburner:smokin:

[Slowzuki]

Not many VW's out there with rwd north south drivetrain.

Volvo diesels had a tranny with bell to mate to VW, I'm told it doesn't fit.

Audi's bell's bolt up to VW blocks. I think some were rwd and awd back in the 80's.

Ken

[Chubby1]

hey hows it going
I am doing a vw swap right know any way to answer your q about the vw tranny. All VW's are front wheel drive would not work at all. You need to mount your engine inline with the body not across so all vw trannys mount to the side. I am making my own adapter plate, it is not all that hard to do and all that stuff you need is not true. That is only if you buy that kit but if you don't want to built the adapter plate yourself then I would go with roadlessgear.com the guy said if I could get 5 people to get kits he could give us a deal but everyone backed out after. The road less gear kit I think is pretty good, the reason I say that is because you can do what I am doing and make things so much simpler. All you would have to do is get a donor car like I did I found a vw rabbit with a 1.6 td in it and I only payed $500 canadian. Then take everything out of the car and put it into your sammie. The only thing that I would change would be the starter, I would go with a isuzu starter can hold up better if you have to crank for a while in cold weather.
anyway I hope this helps you it is a good swap when I am done I will be around 100hp and a 140 to 150 fpt with a 4 to 1 t case and 4:11 toy gears I will be running 37 or 38s so I will be find if you need any more info then just e mail me
Rchubbard@shaw.ca
Chubby:bounce: :bounce2: :bounce: :bounce2:

[dangerber]

Has anyone thought of doing a VW swap with a gas engine? I'd think a 1.8l 8V GTI motor would be really nice for a zuk! And they are a dime a dozen, and easy to find parts for. :D

[rotozuk]

Chubby,

Please expand on how you expect to almost double the HP and Torque figures for the VW 1600 diesel.

My last motor swap was the VW with Keltec kit. It was a nice kit with great instructions. Just needed to work out a few issues. I installed at VW 1.8 gas engine as I wanted the RPM. Made a good little rock crawler and sand buggy. It far out powered any other 4 banger Zuks I ran across, but was a mess under the hood with the CIS fuel injection lines all over the place.

Things to keep in mind about the diesel swaps.. I suggest you drive a vehicle that already has the motor in it. If that mean driving an old Rabbit, then do so! But keep in mind the Rabbit weighs less then your Zuk, and the gearing in your Zuk will not be designed for the diesel like the rabbit is. These motors are very different then what you have in your Zuk now. You have half the RPM range and about the same amount of power, just the torque is at a lower RPM now. Great from a dedicated rock crawler, not good for anything else.

For my needs, I have decided that if you are doing a motor swap (other then the 1600 since it is easy) and not doubling your horse power, why bother? The 1.8 liter engine I dropped in was about 100 HP and a good amount of torque. It was nice, but not what I had hoped for. The best improvement was that I was not shifting a million times a day.

-Wayne

[Chubby1]

hey you want to know how to get 100hp
this is what I was told
add a interooler, exaust, boost the turbo, turn up your fuel pumps,put a good intake and you should be around there but you can't quote me on this I am going on someone'sword this is what they did so I can't see why he wouldn't tell me the truth.
I am going to do this to mine and then slap it on the dino and see what she turns out to be will fill in later once it is done.
hope this helps
Chubby:beer: :beer: :beer:

[Slowzuki]

He's right, diesel's can be taken up a lot in the power dept. They don't knock so you can turn up the injection on them quite a bit. The limits are melting an exhuast valve /piston and /or soot production.

Turboing a N.A. diesel is easy too because of no knock problem. Just have to be careful to not overdo, they have a limiting design pressure for the head bolts and injection system.

Can get a bit of power by adavancing the injection timing, it's retarded to lower NOx emissions (by reducing peak cylinder temps).

Ken

[Rlester]

Originally posted by rotozuk
Chubby,

Please expand on how you expect to almost double the HP and Torque figures for the VW 1600 diesel.

My last motor swap was the VW with Keltec kit. It was a nice kit with great instructions. Just needed to work out a few issues. I installed at VW 1.8 gas engine as I wanted the RPM. Made a good little rock crawler and sand buggy. It far out powered any other 4 banger Zuks I ran across, but was a mess under the hood with the CIS fuel injection lines all over the place.

Things to keep in mind about the diesel swaps.. I suggest you drive a vehicle that already has the motor in it. If that mean driving an old Rabbit, then do so! But keep in mind the Rabbit weighs less then your Zuk, and the gearing in your Zuk will not be designed for the diesel like the rabbit is. These motors are very different then what you have in your Zuk now. You have half the RPM range and about the same amount of power, just the torque is at a lower RPM now. Great from a dedicated rock crawler, not good for anything else.

For my needs, I have decided that if you are doing a motor swap (other then the 1600 since it is easy) and not doubling your horse power, why bother? The 1.8 liter engine I dropped in was about 100 HP and a good amount of torque. It was nice, but not what I had hoped for. The best improvement was that I was not shifting a million times a day.

-Wayne


I have too agree with Rotozuk, I had a 1.6 NA VW diesel in my zuk, and to put it honestly it SUCKED:barf: the only thing I liked about it was the fuel mileage about 40mpg. Other than that it sucked. It was guttless and they diffently DO NOT LIKE HIGH RPMs, If it was a only for the rocks it maybe ok, but where I live we only have muddy trails. I over revved mine and it:nuke:
Now I have the old reliable 1.3 back in it and I like it 3x's better than the diesel:)

Rick

[Slowzuki]

What's the N.A. diesel put out anyway? 40 hp, 65 ftlb? Waste of time. I think the turbo 1.6 is barely adequate, the 1.9 TDI is what I would like, 90 hp, ~149 ftlb stock. Can be chipped to 115 hp, 185 ftlbs.

Feel like spending money you could buy a variable vane euro turbo and ecu and take it to 150 hp and 200+ ftlb.

www.chip-tuning.com/usa/fzg/ukvwpassatb419tdi90.html

Surely faster than a tired 1.3L
Ken

[Chubby1]

A chip does me know good with the 1.6td but I was thinking what if I got my 1.6td bored out to a 1.9 and just used all the same stuff off the 1.6 what #'s do you think I would put out. I would do all the same mods intercooler, exaust,ect...
so do you think it would be worth it
give me your info
Chubby

[Erik Dossett]

You might be able to bore out the 1.6, but the VW 1.9 is a stroker.....actually the block is taller. You will do pretty well just building the 1.6td as you described. I have a Canadian 1.9td in my zuk, I like it a lot. I got the Keltec kit, not that great a kit when it was new. Still a mechanical diesel, no electronics to worry about. Since I spend my time in very wet enviroments, this is good. The next mod I need to do is to get TALLER highway gears - there is a divorce kit for the Toyota truck t-case, which would be perfect for me(1:1 hi range). As it is, with stock gears and 31's it spins too fast for good economy on the highway, I haven't gotten better than 27mpg@65mph. Off road in mud is ok, I sometimes use 2nd lo to get the tires to spin up(never could use that in my old 1.3). Keep the cam belt replaces often, then I don't think you can over-rev the engine, the governor keeps things in check. You have to like diesels and the way they make power to want one. If you don't like 'em, don't put one in. You would not be happy. A gas motor with gears can be made to do the same things. I like mine a lot. Just need bigger tires, as usual.
Erik

http://home.gci.net/~ddesigns/zuki

[TNToy]

Ran across someone this weekend up in land between the lakes in kentucky. He was running a 40HP (!) Cubota diesel motor in his CJ-7. It was an... uh, interesting ride.

[ppillard]

I just finished installing a 1.6 Turbo diesel in my zook. I tossed the sami tranny and mated the TD to a 'yota 4-speed. It's a million times easier, beefier, and using the married t-case setup, you have a lot more room for dual t-cases.

I had to fab my adapter plate myself. The 'yota flywheel is *almost* a perfect bolt-up to the VW crank. I had to drill out my bolt holes on it slightly, and lathe out the crank-hole just under 4 thousandths. It was a perfect mate! Anyway, this allowed me to use all toyota gear in the tranny. No custom fabbed flywheel, starter off of one vehicle, clutch out of another, and such.

Chubby's got the right idea about upin' the boost, intercooling it, and whatnaught. I'm in the midst of this right now. Your torque jumps up right along with your horsepower.

[dangerber]

Originally posted by ppillard
I just finished installing a 1.6 Turbo diesel in my zook. I tossed the sami tranny and mated the TD to a 'yota 4-speed. It's a million times easier, beefier, and using the married t-case setup, you have a lot more room for dual t-cases.

I had to fab my adapter plate myself. The 'yota flywheel is *almost* a perfect bolt-up to the VW crank. I had to drill out my bolt holes on it slightly, and lathe out the crank-hole just under 4 thousandths. It was a perfect mate! Anyway, this allowed me to use all toyota gear in the tranny. No custom fabbed flywheel, starter off of one vehicle, clutch out of another, and such.

Chubby's got the right idea about upin' the boost, intercooling it, and whatnaught. I'm in the midst of this right now. Your torque jumps up right along with your horsepower.

Any plans to sell these adapter plates?? :D I can get 8v gas VW engines for free all day long!

[ppillard]

Originally posted by dangerber


Any plans to sell these adapter plates?? :D

Well, yeah. Tenative plans. I thought I'd test this one a bit before I jump on that wagon. the adapter plate is drawn up in Autocad and cut out with a Laser CNC machine. It was sweet. When I installed the motor, it was in the middle of a complete rebuild from the frame up. I just got the body on it last Sunday. Here's a pic, as you can see I have a ways to go yet:

http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/753832-rightsidesmall.jpg

I hope to fire up the engine in a couple of weeks. Maybe drive it in another couple. I'm scroungin' up the duckets for a marlin t-case doubler kit right now, and up to my ears in body work!:eek:

[dangerber]

Sweet! Keep me posted on the a-dapter, I'm definitely interested in that idea!! :D So, from the looks of your pic, you won't have to modify the tranny tunnel at all for this setup??

[rotozuk]

Pillard,

Looks very nice. You have any more shots of your build up? Since it appears you have kept the tranny tunnel in tact I'd like to see how low your t-case sits. Also, I just love seeing what others are going with their rigs. Also wondering what your suspension is on the front axle.

I wont even ask about the big yellow tank.

-Wayne

Here's mine:
http://rz-products.com/wayne/updates/updates.html

[ppillard]

So, from the looks of your pic, you won't have to modify the tranny tunnel at all for this setup??

Not true! The driver side of the tunnel bear fresh sawzall gashes! But it is minimal. I'll post pics later as I take them. It's pretty sweet how dual yota cases are still gonna yeild me a longer than stock rear driveshaft.

[dangerber]

Originally posted by ppillard


Not true! The driver side of the tunnel bear fresh sawzall gashes! But it is minimal. I'll post pics later as I take them. It's pretty sweet how dual yota cases are still gonna yeild me a longer than stock rear driveshaft.

Sweet! Too bad this info comes a week after I paid for a set of Sumo gears! :( Oh, well, there's always next winter to reconfigure the rig!

[ppillard]

Originally posted by rotozuk
Pillard,

Looks very nice. You have any more shots of your build up?

I'm got plans to take a bunch tonight, including flex shots. The body is just sitting on the frame right now, and I'm gonna shoot at gettin' it bolted down tonight.


Since it appears you have kept the tranny tunnel in tact I'd like to see how low your t-case sits.?

There's a little surgery in the works on the tunnel, see my previous post. The t-case (I'll post pics of it later when I take 'em) is married and sits immediately behind the tranny shifter. I have to cut a section out of the top of the doghouse to allow access to it. The second t-case will sit immidiately behind it.

Also, I just love seeing what others are going with their rigs. Also wondering what your suspension is on the front axle.

The suspension setup on the front is just silly. I won't even begine to explain it without some explanitory pics. Those are scheduled for tonight, too. Sorry to keep you waiting.:p

I wont even ask about the big yellow tank.

For my onboard air system, of course! I've got a long-stroke, York air compressor that's getting bolted to the engine, complete with regulator, psi guage, and control switch for the dash:D

Nice work on your rig, Wayne, but I couldn't find an overall pic of it's present status. Got one?

[ppillard]

Originally posted by dangerber


Sweet! Too bad this info comes a week after I paid for a set of Sumo gears! :( Oh, well, there's always next winter to reconfigure the rig!

Sumo gears are still lower than dual, stock 'yotas (totaling 5.2:1). BUT, for just a little more than what you paid for those sumo's, you can throw TWO sets of Marlin crawler gears in those 'yota's, yeilding you a 22.09:1 gearing ratio. I'll be savin' up for those for a while!:eek:

[ppillard]

You can see a little of the front suspension, the tranny, t-case, and of course the engine...
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/753879-frame.jpg

This pic was taken the same day as the first one I posted.

[dangerber]

Originally posted by ppillard


Sumo gears are still lower than dual, stock 'yotas (totaling 5.2:1). BUT, for just a little more than what you paid for those sumo's, you can throw TWO sets of Marlin crawler gears in those 'yota's, yeilding you a 22.09:1 gearing ratio. I'll be savin' up for those for a while!:eek:

True, and I wanted to get the rig on the trails this summer, so the Sumo's will be good! But, maybe later, I'll go nuts, and do a VW swap!! :D

[rotozuk]

Originally posted by ppillard


The suspension setup on the front is just silly. I won't even begine to explain it without some explanitory pics. Those are scheduled for tonight, too. Sorry to keep you waiting.:p

Nice work on your rig, Wayne, but I couldn't find an overall pic of it's present status. Got one?

I'll wait for the photos.. I couldn't see any leafs or links up front.. Just wondering.

My rig is still in the build stages also. Once I get the front suspension wrapped up here in the next night or two, I'll be fitting the Toyota twins into the tunnel with the rotary and tranny in place and see how everything fits. Can't wait.

-Wayne

[ppillard]

Can't wait.

I heard that! I've been slaving away at this damn rebuild for 6 months now, as work and family permit, and I'm ready to slip out of 'develop' mode and slip into 'maintain, and wheel the hell out of it!' mode.:beer:

[rotozuk]

Originally posted by ppillard


I heard that! I've been slaving away at this damn rebuild for 6 months now, as work and family permit, and I'm ready to slip out of 'develop' mode and slip into 'maintain, and wheel the hell out of it!' mode.:beer:

I know the feeling! Been over a year on mine. The budget keeps getting drained, and refilled again. I've noticed my work cycle is pretty good for about 2-3 months, then I have to step away for a little while. I orginally planned to take the thing to Moab this year, now I'm planning on the Con. I can't wait to get it going, but it's still needs a lot of time, and money to wrap it up.

I like your front suspension. I'm guessing you are going to have something control that beam? I have a club member that did the same thing on the back of his Toyota. He used an air ram to position it where he wanted. Works pretty well. He's on pirate somewhere, I think his name is geargoyle or something like that.

I like the body sitting in the background. :( I can't even pull mine out of the garage right now without getting fined by my housing association!

Should I guess those are Wrangler or Toyota springs? Looks like the front axle is moved pretty well forward. I'd love to see some detail pictures. I ended up putting my shackle mount right through the body mount part of the frame, and an 8inch frame extension up front. Since you have your shackle mount further foward, it looks like your rig will sit several inches lower then mine. That's a good thing.

Looks like a little anti-wrap bar on the rear suspension..

Looks like you have gone to a lot of hard work. I like it very much. Good job!!

-Wayne

[ppillard]

I like your front suspension. I'm guessing you are going to have something control that beam?

Nope, nothing to control it. It takes care of itself (in theory). I got the idea from Tim Porter. His is pretty much the same and he lets it do it's own thing. I'm gonna install some lock pins for road jaunts, provided this thing is road worthy.

I like the body sitting in the background. :( I can't even pull mine out of the garage right now without getting fined by my housing association!

I live in the country, and I have a covered concrete area to work under in the back. I also have a shop, complete with a room big enough to store my parts. It makes it a lot easier when you can keep *most* of your stuff out of sight.

Should I guess those are Wrangler or Toyota springs? Looks like the front axle is moved pretty well forward. I'd love to see some detail pictures. I ended up putting my shackle mount right through the body mount part of the frame, and an 8inch frame extension up front. Since you have your shackle mount further foward, it looks like your rig will sit several inches lower then mine. That's a good thing.

YJ wrangler springs. I slid the axle forward 10.5". You can't really see it, but I have monster buggy-leaves tucked into those inverted rails. They're in the rear too. That front axle is a dana 44, and the rear is a corp 12 bolt. And yeah, I did do my damdest to keep it as low as possible, which is why I chopped the fenders so much. The lower the COG, the better. I still have 21" of clearence, tho.

Looks like a little anti-wrap bar on the rear suspension..

Yepper, homemade! Cost me 40 bucks in parts. That's a YJ 4 leaf in the back, and word is they wrap pretty bad.

Looks like you have gone to a lot of hard work. I like it very much. Good job!!

Thank you very much! And judging by the quality of work I saw on your site, then that is a great compliment. I just got done testing the flex of my zook, and the results are pretty *interesting*. I have to wait till tomorrow to post them, as my digicam's card reader is there. I'll withhold any comment on the results till then.:smokin:

[zuk88]

Damn guys! got me thinking of a 1.9td swap again....thanks alot!:flipoff2:

[rotozuk]

Originally posted by ppillard


Thank you very much! And judging by the quality of work I saw on your site, then that is a great compliment. I just got done testing the flex of my zook, and the results are pretty *interesting*. I have to wait till tomorrow to post them, as my digicam's card reader is there. I'll withhold any comment on the results till then.:smokin:

Trust me, my stuff isn't that clean, but I do try.

With what you just described for suspension, that thing must be damn interesting all flexed up! You have something that will lift it up that much?

-Wayne

[ppillard]

You have something that will lift it up that much?

Yeah, I can't max out my suspension, but I can lift it up enough to get some eyes to pop:eek: :D

I just got done reading your entire project page. You've got a sweet project en route. That rotary engine should deliver more power than you'll ever need. I seriously thought long and hard about the rotary when I was researching motor swaps. I decided on the diesel because I wanted to ditch all the electronics and carburator. Say NO to spark plugs and coils, and YES to low end torque and lightweight! :D

But I've always thought the wankel engine was a great design. Much simpler, less moving parts, meaning less loss of power to direction conversion, and (in theory) greater reliability.

So, you're plannin' on runnin' TWO yota cases, in one divorced setup? That'll be right fine! I see only one, but you referenced 'twins' and how you're gonna extend the whole sami to allow for the drivetrain. I'd really dig seein' pics of these. That's really nice work you got goin' on. Keep up the updates.

Byt the way, your last two pages don't have "next page" links on them. I had to go back to the home page and select from there.:beer: :beer:

[rotozuk]

Originally posted by ppillard


Yeah, I can't max out my suspension, but I can lift it up enough to get some eyes to pop:eek: :D

I just got done reading your entire project page. You've got a sweet project en route. That rotary engine should deliver more power than you'll ever need. I seriously thought long and hard about the rotary when I was researching motor swaps. I decided on the diesel because I wanted to ditch all the electronics and carburator. Say NO to spark plugs and coils, and YES to low end torque and lightweight! :D

But I've always thought the wankel engine was a great design. Much simpler, less moving parts, meaning less loss of power to direction conversion, and (in theory) greater reliability.

So, you're plannin' on runnin' TWO yota cases, in one divorced setup? That'll be right fine! I see only one, but you referenced 'twins' and how you're gonna extend the whole sami to allow for the drivetrain. I'd really dig seein' pics of these. That's really nice work you got goin' on. Keep up the updates.

Byt the way, your last two pages don't have "next page" links on them. I had to go back to the home page and select from there.:beer: :beer:

You might need to limit that suspension combination with some straps. You mentioned that Tim Hardy is running that tilt bar? Is that something new for him? I don't remember seeing it on any of his vehicles. (Or are you talking about the Allard? :p )

Thanks for the compliments. I'm just hacking along as I go, learning things with every step. My goal if to have a well rounded vehicle as I tend to highway to the trails (driven 725 miles to Moab twice in a Samurai, drive up to the Rubicon, Oregon, etc.) and like the dunes as much as I like the rocks. But life is a series of compromises, so certain things get biased in the mix. I think I'm going to have a fun machine, I'm just not sure what it's going to look like yet.

I have already run a VW in this same Samurai. I had the first Keltec kit out on the market, and was the first to use the gas motor instead of an oil burner. I was rather pleased with the project, but about half way through the build I was wishing I had gone rotary. After about 9 months, the VW blew out its rings, and I decided it was time to play with a rotary. I don't blame the VW, I was taking it past 7,000 rpms on a regular basis (in the dunes). I spent the next 6 months just doing research on options for the rotary.

Anyhow, what I'm trying to say is that the diesel is not the power plant for me. I just love a high reving engine. I should probably point out that my engine will produce more torque in the lower revs then the 1600 VW can at any RPM. (stock vs stock) i do not think the rotary is a superior design, it is just something I'd like to play with. (I also like the Isuzu 3.2 and 3.5 a lot, they might be next.)

I'm a big believer that twin t-cases make a more useful vehicle. I'm also a big believer that gearing makes up for all kinds of torque. So it was a natural. You have not seen the twins as I have not pruchased them yet. I probably should get my order in though as things tend to take time. I borrowed that single case from a club member to test fit with.

Not sure how much room I need to make right now. Once I'm done with the front suspension I'm going to cut off the motor mounts I already built, and consider moving the engine and tranny forward 2 inches. Once I work that out, I figure out the plan of attack. I really like the look of yours. Orginally I was going to ctretch the frame near the stock t-case location, and graft in some body parts to make a medium wheel base full fender rig. But I'm now planning on cutting the vehicle behind the targa, and making up a small flat bed of sorts. Still working this one out. Once I get there, I'll load the mess up on trailer and haul it off to a club members for some fancy bendin'! You should see the toys this guy has in his backyard. Everyone should have their own fork lift, hydrolic bender, mutli-story vehicle parking, lathe, mill, etc. Damn!

Regarding the website, I orginally was just posting really rough pages, but then people started complaining about some issues with them, so I added the little navigation page and dropped the next page stuff. I'm not a web dude, so that is easier for me.. Sorry.
:rasta:

Thanks again, and post those pictures, I'm very interested in seeing the deatils!!

-Wayne

[Chubby1]

Hey I know you don't want to rush into selling your adapter right know but you got me intrested.
I want to get a little more info from you if that is ok. I didn't know a vw would fit that easy to a toyota tranny. It would make things so much easier for me if I did that. Would you be willing to send me a adapter even if you didn't have time to test it out. I am will to take my chances with it.
Let me know what you think
Chubby:bounce: :bounce2:

[ppillard]

[B]

You might need to limit that suspension combination with some straps. You mentioned that Tim Hardy is running that tilt bar? Is that something new for him? I don't remember seeing it on any of his vehicles. (Or are you talking about the Allard? :p )

I was gonna put a strap right in the middle to limit axle droop, not articulation (hopefully). Not Tim Hardy, Tim Porter. He owns XS-Parts that's featured on izook.com, here's the link. (http://www.izook.com/rides/features/porterxs/porterxs.htm) His pivot is encapsulated, so you can't really see it, but it works really well.

I have already run a VW in this same Samurai. I had the first Keltec kit out on the market, and was the first to use the gas motor instead of an oil burner. I was rather pleased with the project, but about half way through the build I was wishing I had gone rotary. After about 9 months, the VW blew out its rings, and I decided it was time to play with a rotary. I don't blame the VW, I was taking it past 7,000 rpms on a regular basis (in the dunes). I spent the next 6 months just doing research on options for the rotary.

The Rotary is PERFECT for sand dunes. And nah, the VW is best at low rpm's. But I don't have any expirience with the gassers.

I should probably point out that my engine will produce more torque in the lower revs then the 1600 VW can at any RPM. (stock vs stock) i do not think the rotary is a superior design, it is just something I'd like to play with.

I never intended to leave my diesel stock, they are just so easy to soup up without comprimising reliability. And the mods actually increase fuel economy. I really dig on the idea of idling over obstacles that others need 3000 rpm's to scramble over. It's a silly ego thing :D !

I'm a big believer that twin t-cases make a more useful vehicle. I'm also a big believer that gearing makes up for all kinds of torque. So it was a natural. You have not seen the twins as I have not pruchased them yet. I probably should get my order in though as things tend to take time. I borrowed that single case from a club member to test fit with.

I totally agree with your gearing ideas. I've been workin in this direction for some time now. I've got a spare 'yota t-case if you're interested.

Well, I've got my flex pics, and I gotta work on the post. I'll start a new thread on it since it has nothin' to do with VeeDub diesels
;)

[Erik Dossett]

I am intersted if he is not :p I have the VW1.9td with Zuk trans, but would do the divorce kit on the toy case, ending up with the lovely 1:1 high range. I need a good deal if ya got one, 'cause shipping will be pricey.

[rotozuk]

Originally posted by Erik Dossett
I am intersted if he is not :p I have the VW1.9td with Zuk trans, but would do the divorce kit on the toy case, ending up with the lovely 1:1 high range. I need a good deal if ya got one, 'cause shipping will be pricey.

Ppillard, forgot to answer that question.. I'm set for the t-cases (I think) so if you want to unload them, Erik is a great guy, and I'd love to see him finish off his rig. (Like that will ever happen.) But that shipping from Texas to Alaska is going to be nasty. :eek:

Besides, that wheeling out in Alaska makes our stuff look like play. Oh yeah, it is play.

-Wayne

[Erik Dossett]

hey but it moves......I drove it to work today(1 hour commute!) - I just hate revving the diesel that high with stock gears and 31's. Funny how with the 1.3 the gears were too tall, and now they are too low. I use to be lucky to hit 65mph, and now it easy and I am looking for a 6th gear.

[Root Moose]

Originally posted by Erik Dossett
hey but it moves......I drove it to work today(1 hour commute!) - I just hate revving the diesel that high with stock gears and 31's. Funny how with the 1.3 the gears were too tall, and now they are too low. I use to be lucky to hit 65mph, and now it easy and I am looking for a 6th gear.

Almost sounds like you could use a Klune installed backwards!

r@m