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crazy4ih
06-18-2006, 11:23 PM
Saw this in the back of a 4x4 mag and I think it would be a cool option instead of running a rear tire carrier off the bumper. It seems like an easy enough design. Swings open, doesnt hang too far off the back, and its reversible for storage in the bed. Think you could fit a 36" spare in the back of an 800? Thoughts?

http://tiregate.com

http://tiregate.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=68&g2_serialNumber=2

http://tiregate.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=98&g2_serialNumber=2

http://tiregate.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=80&g2_serialNumber=3

TANNERJENNINGS24
06-22-2006, 11:15 AM
I'm making one for my ford f150. They want almost $1000 for one of those,thats to much I think.My truck already looks like a prerunner so this will like cool in the back.I'm thinkin on making mine out of aluminum to match the bumpers

Brandon
06-22-2006, 11:51 AM
that is a lot of leverage.. maybe if it was worked into a roll cage..

Mechanos
06-22-2006, 12:12 PM
I don't like the fact that although is allows access to the bed, it still takes up a bunch of usable bed space. Might as well just toss the spare in the bed.

Bindernut
06-22-2006, 03:29 PM
I don't like the fact that although is allows access to the bed, it still takes up a bunch of usable bed space. Might as well just toss the spare in the bed.
I agree, but isn't that why it is reversible?

Mechanos
06-22-2006, 04:08 PM
I agree, but isn't that why it is reversible?
Yeah, I suppose it is..... didn't catch that, thanks.

Still, what a pain in the ass that would be to have to "reverse" it if you wanted to put something in the bed.

ihochad
06-22-2006, 05:00 PM
Yeah, I suppose it is..... didn't catch that, thanks.

Still, what a pain in the ass that would be to have to "reverse" it if you wanted to put something in the bed.

I agree, I like the idea but why not make it more straight up and down and save the bed space. Also you could use pins on both side to speed up the switch over. Or stick with the tried and true method of building into the rear bumper.

Brandon
06-22-2006, 05:06 PM
reminded me of this, but this doesn't take any bed space

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=234076&stc=1&d=1142236622

crazy4ih
06-22-2006, 11:45 PM
I agree, I like the idea but why not make it more straight up and down and save the bed space. Also you could use pins on both side to speed up the switch over. Or stick with the tried and true method of building into the rear bumper.

Bed space is a concern of mine as well seeing how small the rear space in an 800 is.

They make another one that is strait up and down.

http://tiregate.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=154&g2_serialNumber=2

http://tiregate.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=160&g2_serialNumber=2

What would be stronger? It seems this method would spread the load over a greater area than the bumper mount which concentrates most of the load on the spindle mount. This seems like it would be easier to make than a bumper mount.

Trukker
06-23-2006, 08:13 AM
reminded me of this, but this doesn't take any bed space

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=234076&stc=1&d=1142236622

I like this design, any more pictures?

ihochad
06-23-2006, 08:52 AM
What would be stronger? It seems this method would spread the load over a greater area than the bumper mount which concentrates most of the load on the spindle mount. This seems like it would be easier to make than a bumper mount.[/QUOTE]

I think that the rack itself may be stronger but may put a lot of stress on the bed posts. They are really not made to support those kind of leverage and jarring forces that this will cause. Think of all of those body mount Jerry can/spare tire carriers you see that have either crushed or pulled the body apart. While I agree this is a improvement of those it is still only as strong as the mounting point. The bumper mount method can be supported ( maybe Jeff can post a pic of his mount ) by more than just the spindle. I guess what I am saying is that even a 35" tire and a high lift cause a great deal of force to be applied to anything you build. Just my .02

Edit::: After futher reveiw of the pics I see that the rack is not mounted directly to the bed posts but is more of a self contained unit. I am starting to see the light!!!!!

ih4ever
06-23-2006, 10:38 AM
reminded me of this, but this doesn't take any bed space

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=234076&stc=1&d=1142236622

thats what i had planned for mine... kinda like the poison spider bumper. only mine would be intagraded into a roll cage, with spring bushings, and some kind of latch to push the tire up into the cage and have it self lock...

Trukker
06-23-2006, 11:16 AM
Thats what I was thinking this mount is, the upper arms connecting to the roll cage instead of the body. (could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time) The thought I was toying with for my 80 would look like this one, bottom pivots would be on the bumper, the upper arms (would also need pivots) would attach to the roll cage but have two mounting positions. One would be as shown in the picture, the other would be tilted into the bed with the tire close to the roll cage and still have another option for a horizontal layout like a seat for comfort at trails end. Probably have a cable with hooks that would latch onto the tailgate securing tabs. Rather than pipes long enough for three mounting positions ... gawd I should have just drawn a picture. :/ now I have a headache!

Urban Wheeler
06-24-2006, 10:02 AM
Think you could fit a 36" spare in the back of an 800? Thoughts?
I have my cage done like this
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/Fryloc/scout80007.jpg
and a 35" tire won't fit between the bars. Without the cage it wouldn't be a problem.

big ron
07-03-2006, 10:29 PM
That thing is a rip off. How do you justify $1000 for that.