: what axles in 94+


89ramming
06-25-2006, 02:37 PM
what axles are in the 94 and up ram 1/2 tons, i know on my 89, its a chrysler 9.25 in back and dana 44 in front, i was just wondering if the i can take the gears from a 94-95 ram and put it in my 89, would the gear ratio be the same in the too trucks???

i have a busted rear end now, and i have a front and rear axle from a 94-95 ram , i was going to just cut the u bolts out of my rear end and put the whole new axles, i was thinkin of throwing the whole front axles in too but im pretty sure the streeing would be different and it was a coil suspension in front and mine is leaf springs

American
06-25-2006, 05:31 PM
DRIVER's side d44, CAD
chrysler 9.25 rear.

Can't help ya on the gears, dont' have a clue (3.55 or 3.73, offroads had 4.11... but I don't know what yours has).

hy_desert_4wheeler
06-25-2006, 06:59 PM
your 89 will probably have 3.21 gears with a slight possibilityof 3.55's.. the 94 and up will most likely have 3.92 due to the use of OD trans..

CartsXJ
06-28-2006, 12:04 PM
I've always wondered what was in the front of the newer 94+ body style RAM's, it looks like a drop-out style carrier, is it a HP Dana 44 drop-out like on a TTB in a 1/2 ton Ford? Or is it a completely different style?

Pavemen
06-28-2006, 12:55 PM
94+ standard gear ratio in the 1500 4x4's is 3.55. 3.21 was an option as was 3.92. 4.10's in the Offroad version.

its a regular low pinion D44 center section driver drop setup. unit bearings on the knuckles, CAD on passenger side, regular tie rod location, ball joints, no flat top options for high steer arms.

American
06-28-2006, 02:52 PM
aka POOP (imho)

CartsXJ
07-05-2006, 06:57 AM
94+ standard gear ratio in the 1500 4x4's is 3.55. 3.21 was an option as was 3.92. 4.10's in the Offroad version.

its a regular low pinion D44 center section driver drop setup. unit bearings on the knuckles, CAD on passenger side, regular tie rod location, ball joints, no flat top options for high steer arms.


I've seen the ones you are talking about, but they don't look like a standard D44 front end. They look like a ford 9" from the front with no cover on the forward facing side. They just might be a D44 is sheeps clothing.

ramv
07-05-2006, 12:31 PM
I've seen the ones you are talking about, but they don't look like a standard D44 front end. They look like a ford 9" from the front with no cover on the forward facing side. They just might be a D44 is sheeps clothing.


First off, why would a D44 masquerade "in sheeps clothing". They are in normal clothing.

Secondly, they look just like a normal 44 front end, with thicker tubes, no hubs and flipped ball joints. They use stock spicer covers and at no point look like a Ford 9" :rolleyes:

American
07-05-2006, 12:35 PM
I've seen the ones you are talking about, but they don't look like a standard D44 front end. They look like a ford 9" from the front with no cover on the forward facing side. They just might be a D44 is sheeps clothing.
And what exactly were you ON?:shaking:

CartsXJ
07-06-2006, 07:20 AM
And what exactly were you ON?:shaking:

Not really sure, but I've only ever seen them on sport models, my buddy's got one, next time I am over at his house, I'll take a pic and post it up.

ramv
07-06-2006, 08:32 AM
Sport model is the same as the regular model.

Off-Road has some heavy trussing around the diff and the CAD, still uses stock covers.

Elwenil
07-06-2006, 10:00 AM
X2. We have several of that era Rams on the lot and a few are 1/2 ton Sport models and they have the same axle as all the other 1/2 tons. Sounds almost like Carts is describing a mid 80s Ford IFS axle.

American
07-06-2006, 09:56 PM
no no no... either he did too much acid in the hippy days, or his parents did.

:flipoff2:

CartsXJ
07-07-2006, 05:35 AM
no no no... either he did too much acid in the hippy days, or his parents did.

:flipoff2:

Actually it was alcohol, they owned a bar when I was younger :flipoff2:

What front end it this? Is it just a heavily trussed Dana 44?

Elwenil
07-07-2006, 06:14 AM
That's an Off-Road package truck so it does have a little reinforcement, but it's still a normal D44 for all intents and purposes. It has the Sport package also, but you can tell it's an Off-Road by the rims and how it sits.

ramv
07-07-2006, 08:18 AM
That's an Off-Road package truck so it does have a little reinforcement, but it's still a normal D44 for all intents and purposes. It has the Sport package also, but you can tell it's an Off-Road by the rims and how it sits.

And also the Off-Road was the only way to get the sport bumper with stock tow hooks cut outs.

CartsXJ
07-07-2006, 08:48 AM
That's an Off-Road package truck so it does have a little reinforcement, but it's still a normal D44 for all intents and purposes. It has the Sport package also, but you can tell it's an Off-Road by the rims and how it sits.

Why the oval shaped housing? Was the CAD housed right there next to the diff?

Elwenil
07-07-2006, 09:20 AM
That just the design of the housing with the extra bracing cast in. It still uses the same D44 cover as the other axles and everything else appears to be pretty standard. The only difference I can find in the Parts Manuals is the housing itself and the different gear ratios for the most part. While it may look a little strange, it's still a basic Ram D44 and both styles should swap for the most part but I don't really think there is much to gain by it. If I had to compare it to something, I might liken it to the D44HD found in the older 3/4 ton trucks.

American
07-07-2006, 12:57 PM
What don't you understand about "Rams with the Offroad package had a trussed D44" ?? The CAD is exactly the same, on the passenger side axleshaft. the axle is the same! It just has a truss. It's not a 9", and it's not an 8"... it's a dana 44

CartsXJ
07-10-2006, 06:49 AM
What don't you understand about "Rams with the Offroad package had a trussed D44" ?? The CAD is exactly the same, on the passenger side axleshaft. the axle is the same! It just has a truss. It's not a 9", and it's not an 8"... it's a dana 44

Dude I've think we covered that its a D44, I was just asking what the point of having the truss right there on the passenger side of the diff housing, like some of the wagoneer D44s. I was just asking if that is where the CAD was, or was it like the late 80's early 90's wrangler D30 with the CAD in the middle of the shaft.