Super 8.8 kit

[yjw/350]

i am starting collecting parts for the build of my YJ, SOA w/ waggy springs, on 38's.... now i have an 8.8 in the rear and have heard about the Super 8.8 kit coming out.... has anyone heard any details about how strong this is gunna make the 8.8?? will it be comparable to a d60?? reason why i ask this is i would rather keep the 8.8 back there and do the super kit than pull it and find a 60 or 14 bolt.... thanks

[05Willys]

Check JU there was a thread and special pricing on the pre-release.

[ZJim]

It's going to eliminate the C-clip because apparently the cross pin had been failing. In addition to that it gives you some chromoly shafts. Apparently the cross pin becomes the weak point.

[yjw/350]

any idea where that thread on JU was ???? i cant find it

[wranglerboy93]

Right here http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?t=738932

[Bushwhacker]

now i have an 8.8 in the rear and have heard about the Super 8.8 kit coming out....

Yeah, its called a 14bolt. :flipoff2:

[Todd W]

Really! If you have an 8.8 already installed it may be worth the upgrade but if your at 38"s already and plan to go bigger save all that $ and go wtih a $150-$200 14b!

Spare shafts for under $100 which you`ll prob. never need with 38s, shave it for ALMOST as much ground clearance as the 8.8 - you don't comp. either so .5" is ok... be happy, save money and wheel the piss outa it knowing its not gonna break!!

[yjw/350]

i'm not at 38's now, i am on 33'' LTBs now but after the winter i will be on something between 36-40'' i have an 8.8 and if the kit is gunna be comparable to a 14bolt in strength than i'll save myself the work and just do the kit

[Bushwhacker]

...and if the kit is gunna be comparable to a 14bolt in strength than i'll save myself the work and just do the kit


:laughing:

[Todd W]

:laughing:


ahaha that is a good laugh.

[socalchef]

you could do the 14 bolt, but I don't really want to go with full width axles, so there's that...

[bigblackblur]

let him buy the kit. Offroad companies need some suckers to play off of or they wouldn't do enough business to survive.

[XJ4THEKICKIN]

Yeah man its still 31 spline and I've seen many a 31 spline 9" break with 37" MT/Rs.

[Hard Rock Holley]

38s on a front dana 30? good luck

[yjw/350]

38s on a front dana 30? good luck

actually i'm building a 44 w/ chromolies right now, thanks for playing..... so from the dumb ass reactions i am assuming this kit isnt the way to go, and yea i have been thinking about the low spline count as the reason i wouldnt do it.... the fact that u cant use stock 8.8 shafts as replacements is pretty horrible as well, i guess i'll go find a dana 60

[mrblaine]

actually i'm building a 44 w/ chromolies right now, thanks for playing..... so from the dumb ass reactions i am assuming this kit isnt the way to go, and yea i have been thinking about the low spline count as the reason i wouldnt do it.... the fact that u cant use stock 8.8 shafts as replacements is pretty horrible as well, i guess i'll go find a dana 60

The kit is not for everyone. It was developed in response to a bunch of folks who already have 8.8's installed under their rigs. They have been asking the axle manufacturers to step up with some higher strength alloy axleshafts to slow down the number of bent flanges with the OEM stuff.

The c-clips in the 8.8 are rarely an issue nor are there even notable amounts of broken axles. What is pretty common is bending just behind the flange.

It's also fairly common to find wheel spacers in use due to the 8.8's slightly less than stock width. It's cheaper and easier most times to put a set of quality spacers on the back rather than buy a set of rims with different backspacing.

The cross pin issue is real, but not very common, when it does happen, it makes for some interesting times. I have a friend whose rig we installed the kit in and his ARB crosspin is slightly bent from the end of the axle smacking into it. I took some 600 grit emery cloth and polished it back up thinking the very slight imperfections were the cause of it's difficult removal and re-installation only to find that didn't quite solve the problem. It still needs a bit of twisting and pushing to get it back in the locker.

Having been involved in a large number of trail repairs with c-clip equipped rigs when they break an axle and an equivalent amount of non c-clip axles, I would prefer not to have to pull the diff cover and deal with the mess on the trail. That's not meant to imply that you don't always pull the cover, but there have been times with 44's that all we had to do was pop out the other side to smack out the splined section and put in the spare to keep going.

The less gear oil we leave on the trails, the better.

So, on the whole, each aspect of the kit may not be enough of a benefit to make it worth owning, but added up, the stronger flanges, dual bolt patterns, off the shelf bearings, retainers, shaft collars, extra width, and no c-clips may be something that will help you if you were looking for alloys to begin with.

I don't know that I would buy an 8.8 just to use the kit though.

[yjw/350]

thank u mr.blaine

[Todd W]

you could do the 14 bolt, but I don't really want to go with full width axles, so there's that... C&C 14B is not to wide, with 4" BS should be pretty good and more stalbe :D

But if you have an 8.8 already and want to step-up the security sure go for the super kit - butif your doing your build upgrade the axle :) The tubes are still weak and the housing is not the strongest... truss that 8.8 :D

[rokcrwlrtj]

my super 8.8

http://www.southernjeeps.org/phpbb/files/rear_60_001.jpg

[recycledxj]

Also dont forget about about the badass dana 44... Im talking about the 35 spline count upgrade... my buddy has one on the back of his wagoneer with 37 and beats the shit of it and it still holds up.

[mrblaine]

thank u mr.blaine

;)

[95yj]

my super 8.8

http://www.southernjeeps.org/phpbb/files/rear_60_001.jpg

Doesn't count man.

[Stuka]

Also dont forget about about the badass dana 44... Im talking about the 35 spline count upgrade... my buddy has one on the back of his wagoneer with 37 and beats the shit of it and it still holds up.

Upgrade the shafts all you want, truss the axle, etc, and all you do is make the D30 sized pinion the weak spot.

[Nordic1]

This thread is an R

There was a thread on this not to long ago... the consensus was that you basicly put bastardized shafts into the axle... an axle which isn't all that beef. So unless you're willing to carry expensive spares, if you break anything... you're pretty much fucked.

For 500ish, I'd rather go hunting for a 60/9"/14b

[socalchef]

Where are all these busted 8.8's? I've been missing out. you guys are cool, can I wheel with you?

[crawlin'YJ]

I built my 35 spline 60 for fairly cheap. But you do what you want ;)

[ZJim]

Upgrade the shafts all you want, truss the axle, etc, and all you do is make the D30 sized pinion the weak spot.


D30 sized pinion huh? I just happened to have an old pic for comparison.


The two sets on the left are for the 8.8. The gear set on the left is 3.27 ratio IIRC and the second one from the left is a set of 4.56 gears for an 8.8. The one on the far right is a set of 4.56 gears for the D30.


http://www.jeepcrew.com/gallery/albums/album25/Gearcomparo.jpg

[Stuka]

I was refering to a D44 pinion, not the 8.8 pinion.

I originally quoted this post:

Also dont forget about about the badass dana 44... Im talking about the 35 spline count upgrade... my buddy has one on the back of his wagoneer with 37 and beats the shit of it and it still holds up.

[ZJim]

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Oh... well then :flipoff2: